Oh there's attention, that's why there's a pit of deleted comments. Just not the kind you're talking about.
This is very recent so I'll be curious to see what big media picks up in the coming days. You're right though, it's wild there is no live coverage, because this seems pretty monumental of a claim.
Kudos to them for repeating things like "our doors are open" multiple times during the meeting.
You will see bots claming its fake at every angle they can possibly imagine all over reddit, and this type of news will not go over well by any US News outlet as this subject is a no no here.
Stop calling everyone that disagrees a bot. Personally I'm not going to take the largest claim in history as fact without a lot of international agreement.
That's not my point and this very well could be fake. im referring to the comments you see everywhere claiming it's fake and it's been proven to be a hoax. Nothing has been proven fake and nothing has proven them 100% legit either
Why do people here always take this angle…
You don’t have to prove that something that doesn’t yet exist doesn’t exist. That’s NOT how science introduces facts. The burden of proof is on the person introducing extraordinary claims as fact or “truth”.
I.e calling these things anything other than what they factually present as: random bones and tissue matter in the form of small dolls.
If you can’t meet the absolute bedrock scientific fundamental of what separates fact from theory then don’t ever talk about science
You NPCs also believe everything thats out there while not agreeing with the ppl that dont agree with that this is real. Untill we seeing some Alien mtfers out here with our own eyes i dont believe shit! Yet, i dont think we alone in the Universe.
Literally had a dude tell us and US congress why. Massive disinformation campaign. US mainstream media is 100% controlled and filtered. If the wildfire of NHI acceptance spreads, then Congress will be forced to *really* lean into the DOD and AARO, and they don't wanna give up what they know.
Have you ever considered that *this* could be the disninfo campaign? I’m being serious. Both this and the Peru stuff seem so fishy.
edit: The fact people can’t merely posit ideas or ask questions without getting downvoted or hostile replies is deplorable. I don’t think my question was disrespectful. It’s just a conversation/debate. I want to know the truth as much as anyone else here. I really do appreciate the input by the people that added more information in respectful ways and such. I don’t have a horse in this race just asking questions, positing ideas.
I have considered it, and it just doesn't make sense. So far everything being told by these researchers is "Yes they're real", so if *thats* the disinformation campaign, they're certainly making the public more likely to stick their noses up DoD's ass.
Confirming NHIs exist is hardly disinforming the public. Ya need to apply Occam's Razor on this one, what's more simple, that these scientists are telling the truth? Or that they fabricated these bodies so they could claim they're real and somehow...someway get one over on us. I'm gonna choose the former.
That's not Occam’s razor’s application, here.
You didn't account for crossing boundaries of parallel universes, or FtL flight, or wormholes, or time travel, as means of getting to Earth... or the great filters of intelligent civilizations, or the coincidence of societal and technological progression, that puts them and their technical progression in roughly the same ballpark as us and our technological progression, such that we can appreciate those nuances, compared to the billions of years on the actual timeline.
How many is "all"? Where are their published findings, or their peer-reviewed findings and all of the test data?
By saying “Occam's razor implies that a few people saying it's true is the most straightforward” that also takes much of the above for granted... which... is definitely not the path of least resistance.
They are presenting evidence that these bodies are NHI. It is more straightforward to assume they're not fabricating evidence for some elaborate reason.
Is the reason more elaborate, or less elaborate than constructing a FtL vessel that requires near infinite energy, to push matter faster than the speed of light?
Is it more or less elaborate than the teleporters needed to land on a completely different celestial body, hurtling through space, at a completely different velocity and spin than the entry portal, without being torn apart as you step through, even if you could bind a partial to a surface, rather than just watching the planet zip by it, impossibly quickly, or having the portal just instantly shear everything it comes in contact with?
Is it more or less elaborate than falling through a dimensional rift, accidentally, and ending up on a planet, versus in random infinite space... and your dimension is also made of matter, instead of antimatter... and of all planets, the rift opened on the one that really, really likes The X-Files?
THANK YOU! And not for agreeing with *me*, but bringing up some other fishy stuff.
I am a believer in ETs.
I know that we must remain ambiguous on the topic, so appearance aside. Why have there been so little (if *any*) coverage outside of South America !?
Why is this not being discussed by any of the big names, why is this being laughed at?
Redflags to me :
•The sensationalizing of the posts here. The titles are frequently : 100% *Proof Finally Here!*
• The very same names, pseudoscientist Thierry Jamin and Known Fraudster Jaime Mussan had been ousted before as fabricating hoaxes in the past (since 1990) is also involved in this.
~~~~~~~~From a Vox article linked below~~~~~||
These include greatest hits like:
•Presenting a strange being dubbed the “Metepec Creature,” which turned out to be a skinned monkey.
•Championing a hoax called the “Roswell Slides” in 2015 which purported to show a photo of an alien body but turned out to be that of a mummified 2-year-old boy. (Several of the people involved in this hoax would later attach themselves to the Nazca mummy hoax.)
•Claiming to have discovered a “demon fairy” in 2016 which was revealed to be “some conglomeration of a bat, wooden sticks, unseen epoxy and other items designed to deceive” — but not until after he sold it for $10,000.
•Gaining an entry on the UFO Watchdog Hall of Shame list for repeated UFO-related false claims and fraud attempts.
~~~~~~~
So we’re supposed to be onboard with this? Give me some consensus in the *international* scientific community and I’ll bite.
I’m remaining as agnostic as I can but you can’t deny there’s many reasons to take heaping spoonfuls of salt with this shit…
I’m a believer by the way.
I think it might even be a case of- these guys doing their fucking same scams that are racisit and damage Peruvian culture/heritage and then psy op teams- pushing the story. Paying off people to say “yes this weel fo sho trust me…”
Anyone that has to say “Trust us…” is immediately suspect in my opinion.
The article also quotes their website and CROWDFUNDING…
~~~~~~~~~
February 2017, a crowdfunding campaign for “The Alien Project” appeared. The project boasted its own website and held sponsored press conferences on the “Nazca mummies.” It promised “to determine, through extensive scientific analysis (mainly DNA and C14), the origin of the bodies and the mummified organs discovered in southern Peru in January 2016.”
“You can trust us,” the crowdfunding campaign read. “[I]f it is an imposture, or a fake, we will be the first to denounce it.” The campaign, however, went on to smugly assure their contributors, “If there is a fraud, we have not detected it yet.” The man behind the campaign, per the Alien Project website, is a pseudoscientist named Thierry Jamin, who bills himself as an archaeologist. (He’s not.) He’s also the purveyor of the fraudulent aliens.
The campaign refers to the “exceptional quality” of these figures: dog-sized skeleton molds of three-fingered beings that seem to have been shamelessly hodgepodged together from real disarticulated human remains, covered in white plaster, and presented to the world as though they were fully intact extraterrestrial beings that had been “discovered” in the Peruvian wilderness.
~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~<
from this VVVVVVVVV
[This sums up why I’m suspicious.](https://www.vox.com/culture/23875671/aliens-mexican-congress-real-or-hoax-peru-nazca-mummies-jaime-maussan-fraud-scam)
My brother Peter Galison is the Pellegrino Professor at Harvard, and was the head of the History of Science Department for nearly a decade. I can guarantee you that most major Universities have NO interest in exploring this and related subjects, no matter how well established documented. I don't need to explain the reasons here as they are explained in depth elsewhere. Read about Harvard's reaction to John Mack, the head of the Psychiatry Department and Pulitzer Prize wining author who dared to research the alien abduction phenomenon. No Professor wants to run that gauntlet, including my brother
That said, I have been studying the Nazca mummies since they were announced in 2016, and have spent many hours examining them in person. Recently, I was approached by a team at the University of Colorado, including PhD's in Orthopedics and genetics, who are currently examining CT scans and tissue samples from the mummies. So far, they ave not found any evidence of fraud, thought their research is in its early stages.
In your academic experience how do you break that cycle?
I'm extremely skeptical of these mummies but it doesn't matter what I believe... I want peer review. But if no peers will touch it, then we will never know for sure and can always dismiss it as "it is not peer reviewed"
Not peer reviewed is different than conclusively proven to be incorrect.
If this is all bullshit, is there not a noble scientist out there that can help prove these charlatans wrong?
Don't get me wrong, I would be a lot more exited if that noble scientist instead proves these are legitimate biological samples...
I just want a broadly researched and peer reviewed conclusion either way!
I am not an academic, but my brother is an esteemed one, As I mentioned, I was contacted by a team at U of CO. At my request, Thierry gave them scans and they are n the process of acquiring DNA samples. I believe these guys are established academics with the credentials, integrity and independence to get this to peer review, one way or the other,
I personally have gone back and forth about the mummys' authenticity, but there is much in my experience to suggest that they are at least not modern "fakes".
I am not a fan of Mr. Mausann, and I am wary of some of the scientists he consults, but I know with 100% certainty that Thierry Jamin is honorable and sincere. I personally financed the most recent CT scans, and as you know, they cannot be faked; far too much data.
I have no reason to question the abilities or integrity of the scientists from U of ICA, but I do not know them. IN any case, all of these scientists are putting their reputations on the line with this. Now that Michio Kaku is involved, we will find out what's what.
And so much of it is an opinion piece, not a scientific paper. Certainly not peer reviewed by any reputable scientist.
By the way, how did these things walk without any ankle joints. Do they just shuffle or hop? Trying to figure that out.
The fact so many experienced individuals are putting their careers on the line to sign that they support this suggests that this is the most credible evidence of non-human intelligent life we've ever seen. The fact that these live streams are hard to find and aren't getting coverage suggest to me that there's quite a bit of suppression happening here and major news outlets have an embargo on reporting on this. Exciting times, it's definitely given me some happiness to know that these really do exist, but I doubt we'll see real disclosure until 2027.
2027 is just a date that keeps popping up in these circles, sometimes it's something like 'the drip drip of disclosure is picking up pace because the aliens are supposed to be arriving in 2027 and revealing them selves weather we are ready or not, so those in the know are having their hands forced' personally I doubt it's on that level, but there is clearly a concerted push, and that date is popping up again and again, is it just an artifact of the echo chamber? Who knows, not I 🙄
The 'university' barely qualified as a vocational college, it's lost funding and accreditation several times in the past two decades. Who are these scientific experts? The team lead isn't qualified and has been pushing alien hoaxes for half a decade to drive tourism to Peru, hardly an impartial, objective world heading scientest. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/GSVrn0HFvI
For anyone claiming this is some no-name university, there's a bogus listing that comes up on Edurank, probably some placeholder or no-name diploma mill: [https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/](https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/)
The actual name of the university that studied the mummies is: Universidad Nacional San Luis Gonzaga de Ica. And they have perfectly respectable rankings: [https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/](https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/)
\#9048 of 14,131 In [the World](https://edurank.org/geo/)
\#653 of 1,756 In [Latin America](https://edurank.org/geo/la/)
\#48 of 136 In [Peru](https://edurank.org/geo/pe/)
\#1 of 2 In [Ica](https://edurank.org/geo/ica/)
For anyone who doubts it, just scroll right to 1:10:01 in OP's video and they have their university's seal and name in front and center. I'll go on record as being deeply skeptical of all this but let's get our ducks in a row.
[This post is claiming](https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/17q7hnt/comment/k8bui02/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) they [lost their SUNEDU accreditation in 2019.](https://elcomercio-pe.translate.goog/peru/ica/sunedu-nego-licencia-a-la-universidad-nacional-san-luis-gonzaga-de-ica-noticia/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
Would you demand a paper to believe that a new species of Lecertilla was discovered in New Guinea by a university?
Would you demand a paper to believe that scientists discovered a technique to induce lucid dreaming?
You wouldn't, and the reason is because you didn't have preconceived ideas for an exact number of lizards in New Guinea, nor the mechanisms for inducing lucid dreams. What you and so many others do have, that you refuse to address, are preconceived notions about life in the cosmos and our place in it. Wonder why that is.
You don't need a paper to see that grass is green. But if you make the claim as world-shattering as these guys and expect everyone to believe it without AT LEAST a paper to back it up, then yeah, it's a joke.
Millions of people around the world have witnessed UFOs since WW2, and now those sightings are backed by military radar and other sensors, not to mention mountains if goverment documents, yet there are virtually no academic papers about their existence. Why do you suppose that is?
Even if someone in academia does care about it, what are they going to do? Stare up at the night sky and wait for a little grey man to appear saying "SOS!"? You say UFO. Those are actively looked into by the military and is really of no interest to academia, as they are the problem of the military (them being foreign drones with the potential to do harm, directly or indirectly \[regardless of your belief about their origin\]).
I'm not even sure who in the academic world would look into this phenomena. What field is "UFO watcher"? What do you need a PhD in to say "hey im gonna look for ufos and write about them"?
Why are comments getting deleted on previous posts about this? Genuinely asking because I’ve never seen anything like that happening in real time before.
It's crazy to me that people think that disclosure will come from the biggest gatekeepers and obsfucators of this topic across history
I do not trust the US one bit when it comes to this topic
that these ones being studied were obtained through tomb raiding and smuggling is probably why the US let it slip, it was all off the book
they would absolutely make them disappear if they got their grubby hands on them
No, they should have immediately donated them to the Peruvian government. Then there would have been an evidence trail and documentation. But they decided to go for the $$$
Sanctions just punish the people, not the people exploiting them. It will radicalize Americans, who are already fascist, or on the verge of fascism. Remember, Americans are the descendants of radical British who went to war against their homeland. And immigrants who think capitalism is good.
I second that, we can’t be so naive and pig headed to think that the west produces the best scientists. It’s just that the west has a lot of money to throw at news outlets and mass media, that allow those easily influenced to think in the manner that they do. There are scientists in all corners of the globe, working on things we can’t wrap our minds around.
>University of Ica
Incorrect. You looked up "University of Ica" which is probably some placeholder or no-name diploma mill: [https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/](https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/)
The actual name of the university that studied the mummies is: Universidad Nacional San Luis Gonzaga de Ica.
And they have perfectly respectable rankings:[https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/](https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/)
\#9048 of 14,131 In [the World](https://edurank.org/geo/)
\#653 of 1,756 In [Latin America](https://edurank.org/geo/la/)
\#48 of 136 In [Peru](https://edurank.org/geo/pe/)
\#1 of 2 In [Ica](https://edurank.org/geo/ica/)
Peer review is very cool and I'm looking forward to it. The United States has a history of burying/destroying this shit so maybe send it to be peer reviewed everywhere else. Only after every other credible foreign research facility has reviewed it, should the US even begin to get pieces. Mexico and South America have shown themselves to be the adults in the room.
I confirm to you that this uni is empty as fuck https://elcomercio-pe.translate.goog/peru/ica/sunedu-nego-licencia-a-la-universidad-nacional-san-luis-gonzaga-de-ica-noticia/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp&fbclid=IwAR32uBSt7-XAPhP429dX6oCZo_OPUtEpZ7_eEndPdtdDIRh-Z1g9dmysKcg
Originally I thought this complete BS, not any more. I do agree if the US got the hands on the mummies that we would it would never see the light of day!
Why is this person getting downvoted? That’s literally how science works…we don’t tend to treat things with true legitimacy until peer review wtf people
They want to believe in this so badly that they’ve chosen to be anti-science about it. I see lots of fanaticism in these comments that reminds me of religious people.
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Your lack of understanding of the scientific process is disturbing. Heres a hint -- it's called peer review...and the paper isn't even published yet.
Will it cause a storm and controversy and debate? Probably. But scientific debate is part of the process before any hypothesis becomes accepted.
Source of announcement, at 1:16:43 in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHyMlkm7Njo
University website, waiting for publication still: https://www.unica.edu.pe
The website has absolutely nothing suggesting alien bodies.
The YouTube video is hardly an official anything. The university hasn’t put it on their site or make their own statement
Edit: dude you guys are just spiteful I’m not saying anything mean or untrue…
The university has now denied involvement. Y yo habla español. And I speak Spanish
I guess this will continue to be downvoted?? I don’t get it I’m way into aliens too…
Call me a commie bastard, but I personally think it's a good thing that the university leading the study of these specimens found in Ica, Peru is from, well, Ica, Peru.
Are the US and UK (for instance) better known for their study of cultural artefacts from across the world? Yes, but then they're even more well known (over the last 400 years or so) for taking other nations' artefacts and not giving them back.
Will it take a little longer for the maximum possible amount of findings to be uncovered at such a self-described understaffed and under-equipped university? Oh sure, but in the long term those findings could be an amazing sociocultural boon for Peru.
I say let 'em cook, why the need for a rush?
And yet we still won't really hear this in mainstream media. I would still love other countries to peer review though, but nonetheless it's still exciting.
I worry that the moment they enter a famous school they will disappear. Or they'll get sent to the Smithsonian to be mothballed like all the other paranormal things. What is the threshold for belief here? I'm not sure I even know what it is for myself...
My military buddy said we should hear it in the US media before Thanksgiving. He said the words alien disclosure before Thanksgiving.
He told me this about 3 weeks ago
Ok so the mummies are roughly 60cm tall. Yet they found 30cm hands. If you estimate the 60cm mummy hands are about 8cm long, and then guess the size of the 30cm hands whole body, (with the help of AI)
The original humanoid was 60cm tall 60cm = 23.62 inches 23.62 inches = 1 foot 11.62 inches The new humanoid was 225cm tall 225cm = 88.58 inches 88.58 inches = 7 feet 4.58 inches So in summary:
Original humanoid: 1 foot 11.62 inches New humanoid with larger hands: 7 feet 4.58 inches
The fucking big ones are 7 foot 4.6 inches tall!
There’s not much to share yet unless you want to find the announcement within the YouTube video of the hearing. It was like half way through
Edit: Listen in at one hour 16 minutes and 43 seconds on this video https://www.youtube.com/live/XHyMlkm7Njo?si=0HJgkQnVDuFtxkk8
Oh well it’s important to see this stuff. UFO community is basically eternally saying ‘we got proof’ and then not releasing anything.
I believe in aliens so don’t crucify me please.
Question is, will majority of people bat an eye and read about it though to form their own coherent thoughts or just glance at an article and go back to their day-to-day tasks?
The argument that they are some kind of poor university is so lame guys.
Are you telling me theses guys doesn’t know how to properly run dna and tissu testing ?
The proof is right there. They called them myths, legend, gods, Anunaki, but here it is. The pieces of the puzzle are rapidly assembling and the real world paradigm will emerge soon. I’m pretty sure about that.
Why, exactly, would running alien DNA samples being even remotely similar to terrestrial life though? Why would aliens have DNA in the first place?? Not even all living things on earth have DNA (if you count RNA viruses)
The mummies have been proven real. The doors are open for researchers from all over the world to see the mummies in person. Doubters and skeptics are also welcome.
The fact is that these being were alive.
Well it's been a couple weeks and I still can't find a research paper on this topic. It's hard to follow the scientific method without a writeup on their methods. I mean, without their SPECIFIC findings and methods, we have literally no way to peer review their findings.
I hope this team is still working on getting published because the specific writeup would answer a lot of questions.
That’s some conclusion they have announced, they must have some incredible data gathered on these things. What’s the evidence they have examined? When are they submitting a manuscript for publication? Or is it just full steam ahead with science by press conference?
I love how you show a rapper talking like he is an expert and can make any scientific claims.. i mean their expert was a rapper , a rapper.
second of all it was not the University of Ica that is one of the worst rated universities in the world.
It was San Luis Gonzaga National University at Ica and they also denied any involvement but said their professor Roger can do anything he wants outside of the university. but make no claims about being involved.
I didn’t like the old Argentinian doctor who claimed a few of the bodies are from the future, and that rapper. But it was good presentation nonetheless.
I think people misunderstood him here. As a native Spanish speaker I feel like he was trying to make people understand that their anatomy and structure resembled something that would exist in the future, if you tried to estimate what a future species would look like.
In other words, if you travelled millions of years into the future, you would likely see beings that looked like this. Especially once humanity was no longer around. I don't think he's saying that they are from the future, but that their anatomy doesn't match the era in which they existed. They appear to be highly evolved beings that likely were much more intelligent than humans in ways we don't know yet.
For all we know these beings ascended in ways we don't know, and we got left behind.
This is so fake. The university lost its accreditation wait for it….. 4 years ago. Now they publish nonsense online and work with known fraudsters. Next.
lol no they didn't. perhaps you are looking at the other uni in Ica (since there are confusingly two).
The correct uni is the San Luis Gonzaga University of Ica. and it checks out just fine
This seems to be translated and somewhat poorly, but it appears to say they were denied accreditation. I’ve seen other reference Spanish language documents that say the same. https://newsbeezer.com/perueng/sunedu-denies-the-national-university-of-san-luis-gonzaga-de-ica-the-institutional-license/
I can’t find anything. In fact there is barely anything from them officially online. The more I look the more this feels like a backwater school that was likely bribed or otherwise manipulated. The guy behind all of this is a documented scam artist. If this was legit it would have been brought to a major university in Peru or abroad. Not the 9,000 rated school out of 14000 in the world. It would be equivalent to me going to an unaccredited community college in the US and getting them to verify potentially the greatest discovery in human history. Doesn’t make sense and should be raising everyone’s red flags.
yeah, that is highly suspect and just doesn't look great. I've got an open mind and would love for these mummies to be real, but not being able to find much about the uni or the profs who signed it certainly hampers trust
https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/
Looks like they’re the ITT tech of Peru. You’d think they’d be proud of proving aliens are real. Maybe publish an article. Perhaps a blurb on the website. I’m sure it’ll be done soon though…
How do you post a claim like this with no source? I'd really like to read the publication and see what was said, what they tested, how they came to their conclusion.
The source is the hearing happening right now. The chief of investigations of the University of Ica is currently going through the step by step they went through to make sure it wasn't faked, and earlier during the hearing they released a video statement making it clear that they reached that conclusion after four years of studying the corpses.
You can catch him speaking still if you tune in right now: https://www.youtube.com/live/XHyMlkm7Njo?si=XQoXhoFKjpbxOmki
You linked a YT video and a university website (that doesn't deliver any evidence) as your sources for this claim.
And you guys wonder why people are skeptical or straight up deeming y'all non-credible.
Edit: The YT video claims that "rigorous tests" were completed. That's extremely vague, I test electronics for a living and if I make a claim, I have to back it up by proving my test setup logic as well as many other things. How about they publish their findings, showcase what they tested, how they tested it, and what they believe the collected data proves?
>The University of Ica is a SUNEDU accrediated unverisity, which is the highest accreditation Peru can give to a university.
[https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/](https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/)
According to the above, the University of Ica is ranked 128th of 136 universities in Peru and number 1,625 of 1,756 of universities in South America.
I'm open minded as always but this isn't exactly a good look.
Edit: see u/[**MegaChar64**](https://www.reddit.com/user/MegaChar64/) comment I apparently have the wrong university
University of Ica
Rankings.
2 of 2 In Ica - Bottom of the local group,
128 of 136 In Peru - pretty much the bottom of the country.
1625 of 1,756 In Latin America - one of the lowest in Latin America.
13550 of 14,131 In the World - Bottom 10% in the whole world.
This not take their information as fact until it has been backed up but a University or Institution with some real professors.
They don't speak English down there papi. I think you should leave the thinking to the big boys if you can't wrap your head around the fact a Spanish speaking country wouldn't have an institution named in English
https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/
So I'm not convinced until there are studies by tier one academia. I also think there's likely been under the table communication with established govt. and academic researchers and findings are either that it's bs, or they're not releasing. My guess would be BS because the Peruvian govt would have been pressured to release the mummies and paid off by the US or another super power. And that didn't happen. My question, and I'm serious is, what do you expect people to do? Freak out? Take to the streets? Suddenly unite in one world govt and join hands across borders? I think most people accepted the existence of aliens somewhere and the small potential for aliens here decades ago. These mummies, given they're alien, are super interesting and provide a lot to chew on and even then support a far greater likelihood of existing contact. And then... so what? Then govts are colluding or whatever and probably have been for generations. So what? It's built in to our current societies and all the problems we have that we create. What is the the existence of aliens to my mortgage or rent. To the rise of fascism again. To the incoming end of the anthropocene. If aliens save us, then great. If they don't, not a shocker. Either way I have stuff to do today to earn money and pay the bills.
WHY IS THERE NO ATTENTION TO THIS MY GOD
Oh there's attention, that's why there's a pit of deleted comments. Just not the kind you're talking about. This is very recent so I'll be curious to see what big media picks up in the coming days. You're right though, it's wild there is no live coverage, because this seems pretty monumental of a claim. Kudos to them for repeating things like "our doors are open" multiple times during the meeting.
You will see bots claming its fake at every angle they can possibly imagine all over reddit, and this type of news will not go over well by any US News outlet as this subject is a no no here.
Stop calling everyone that disagrees a bot. Personally I'm not going to take the largest claim in history as fact without a lot of international agreement.
That's not my point and this very well could be fake. im referring to the comments you see everywhere claiming it's fake and it's been proven to be a hoax. Nothing has been proven fake and nothing has proven them 100% legit either
Why do people here always take this angle… You don’t have to prove that something that doesn’t yet exist doesn’t exist. That’s NOT how science introduces facts. The burden of proof is on the person introducing extraordinary claims as fact or “truth”. I.e calling these things anything other than what they factually present as: random bones and tissue matter in the form of small dolls. If you can’t meet the absolute bedrock scientific fundamental of what separates fact from theory then don’t ever talk about science
Literally the only sane comment I've seen so far in this thread
You NPCs also believe everything thats out there while not agreeing with the ppl that dont agree with that this is real. Untill we seeing some Alien mtfers out here with our own eyes i dont believe shit! Yet, i dont think we alone in the Universe.
Literally had a dude tell us and US congress why. Massive disinformation campaign. US mainstream media is 100% controlled and filtered. If the wildfire of NHI acceptance spreads, then Congress will be forced to *really* lean into the DOD and AARO, and they don't wanna give up what they know.
Have you ever considered that *this* could be the disninfo campaign? I’m being serious. Both this and the Peru stuff seem so fishy. edit: The fact people can’t merely posit ideas or ask questions without getting downvoted or hostile replies is deplorable. I don’t think my question was disrespectful. It’s just a conversation/debate. I want to know the truth as much as anyone else here. I really do appreciate the input by the people that added more information in respectful ways and such. I don’t have a horse in this race just asking questions, positing ideas.
Gtfooh
I have considered it, and it just doesn't make sense. So far everything being told by these researchers is "Yes they're real", so if *thats* the disinformation campaign, they're certainly making the public more likely to stick their noses up DoD's ass. Confirming NHIs exist is hardly disinforming the public. Ya need to apply Occam's Razor on this one, what's more simple, that these scientists are telling the truth? Or that they fabricated these bodies so they could claim they're real and somehow...someway get one over on us. I'm gonna choose the former.
That's not Occam’s razor’s application, here. You didn't account for crossing boundaries of parallel universes, or FtL flight, or wormholes, or time travel, as means of getting to Earth... or the great filters of intelligent civilizations, or the coincidence of societal and technological progression, that puts them and their technical progression in roughly the same ballpark as us and our technological progression, such that we can appreciate those nuances, compared to the billions of years on the actual timeline. How many is "all"? Where are their published findings, or their peer-reviewed findings and all of the test data? By saying “Occam's razor implies that a few people saying it's true is the most straightforward” that also takes much of the above for granted... which... is definitely not the path of least resistance.
They are presenting evidence that these bodies are NHI. It is more straightforward to assume they're not fabricating evidence for some elaborate reason.
Is the reason more elaborate, or less elaborate than constructing a FtL vessel that requires near infinite energy, to push matter faster than the speed of light? Is it more or less elaborate than the teleporters needed to land on a completely different celestial body, hurtling through space, at a completely different velocity and spin than the entry portal, without being torn apart as you step through, even if you could bind a partial to a surface, rather than just watching the planet zip by it, impossibly quickly, or having the portal just instantly shear everything it comes in contact with? Is it more or less elaborate than falling through a dimensional rift, accidentally, and ending up on a planet, versus in random infinite space... and your dimension is also made of matter, instead of antimatter... and of all planets, the rift opened on the one that really, really likes The X-Files?
The fact that there were claims of mummies from that same area in the past that were disproven makes claims about new mummies awfully fishy.
THANK YOU! And not for agreeing with *me*, but bringing up some other fishy stuff. I am a believer in ETs. I know that we must remain ambiguous on the topic, so appearance aside. Why have there been so little (if *any*) coverage outside of South America !? Why is this not being discussed by any of the big names, why is this being laughed at? Redflags to me : •The sensationalizing of the posts here. The titles are frequently : 100% *Proof Finally Here!* • The very same names, pseudoscientist Thierry Jamin and Known Fraudster Jaime Mussan had been ousted before as fabricating hoaxes in the past (since 1990) is also involved in this. ~~~~~~~~From a Vox article linked below~~~~~|| These include greatest hits like: •Presenting a strange being dubbed the “Metepec Creature,” which turned out to be a skinned monkey. •Championing a hoax called the “Roswell Slides” in 2015 which purported to show a photo of an alien body but turned out to be that of a mummified 2-year-old boy. (Several of the people involved in this hoax would later attach themselves to the Nazca mummy hoax.) •Claiming to have discovered a “demon fairy” in 2016 which was revealed to be “some conglomeration of a bat, wooden sticks, unseen epoxy and other items designed to deceive” — but not until after he sold it for $10,000. •Gaining an entry on the UFO Watchdog Hall of Shame list for repeated UFO-related false claims and fraud attempts. ~~~~~~~ So we’re supposed to be onboard with this? Give me some consensus in the *international* scientific community and I’ll bite. I’m remaining as agnostic as I can but you can’t deny there’s many reasons to take heaping spoonfuls of salt with this shit… I’m a believer by the way. I think it might even be a case of- these guys doing their fucking same scams that are racisit and damage Peruvian culture/heritage and then psy op teams- pushing the story. Paying off people to say “yes this weel fo sho trust me…” Anyone that has to say “Trust us…” is immediately suspect in my opinion. The article also quotes their website and CROWDFUNDING… ~~~~~~~~~ February 2017, a crowdfunding campaign for “The Alien Project” appeared. The project boasted its own website and held sponsored press conferences on the “Nazca mummies.” It promised “to determine, through extensive scientific analysis (mainly DNA and C14), the origin of the bodies and the mummified organs discovered in southern Peru in January 2016.” “You can trust us,” the crowdfunding campaign read. “[I]f it is an imposture, or a fake, we will be the first to denounce it.” The campaign, however, went on to smugly assure their contributors, “If there is a fraud, we have not detected it yet.” The man behind the campaign, per the Alien Project website, is a pseudoscientist named Thierry Jamin, who bills himself as an archaeologist. (He’s not.) He’s also the purveyor of the fraudulent aliens. The campaign refers to the “exceptional quality” of these figures: dog-sized skeleton molds of three-fingered beings that seem to have been shamelessly hodgepodged together from real disarticulated human remains, covered in white plaster, and presented to the world as though they were fully intact extraterrestrial beings that had been “discovered” in the Peruvian wilderness. ~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~< from this VVVVVVVVV [This sums up why I’m suspicious.](https://www.vox.com/culture/23875671/aliens-mexican-congress-real-or-hoax-peru-nazca-mummies-jaime-maussan-fraud-scam)
Isn’t THAT FACT the scariest part!!! THE greatest archeological find and…. crickets.
Cuz I still got to go to work so it doesn't matter
It’s news out of a university no one had heard of in a third world country. Makes it a bit hard to believe.
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My brother Peter Galison is the Pellegrino Professor at Harvard, and was the head of the History of Science Department for nearly a decade. I can guarantee you that most major Universities have NO interest in exploring this and related subjects, no matter how well established documented. I don't need to explain the reasons here as they are explained in depth elsewhere. Read about Harvard's reaction to John Mack, the head of the Psychiatry Department and Pulitzer Prize wining author who dared to research the alien abduction phenomenon. No Professor wants to run that gauntlet, including my brother That said, I have been studying the Nazca mummies since they were announced in 2016, and have spent many hours examining them in person. Recently, I was approached by a team at the University of Colorado, including PhD's in Orthopedics and genetics, who are currently examining CT scans and tissue samples from the mummies. So far, they ave not found any evidence of fraud, thought their research is in its early stages.
Interesting. I would be happy to see proof if you DM me.
Lol, this is a 4th wall break /s 🤣 "My name is Will Galison, I do not know why I am listed as ShallotOK9293 on Reddit."
Maybe boomer?
Boomer yes.
and proud
I have no proof other than what has been revealed in Mexico City. I only know that Thierry Jamin and his team are 100% sincere.
My name is Will Galison, I do not know why I am listed as ShallotOK9293 on Reddit.
Whut?
In your academic experience how do you break that cycle? I'm extremely skeptical of these mummies but it doesn't matter what I believe... I want peer review. But if no peers will touch it, then we will never know for sure and can always dismiss it as "it is not peer reviewed" Not peer reviewed is different than conclusively proven to be incorrect. If this is all bullshit, is there not a noble scientist out there that can help prove these charlatans wrong? Don't get me wrong, I would be a lot more exited if that noble scientist instead proves these are legitimate biological samples... I just want a broadly researched and peer reviewed conclusion either way!
I am not an academic, but my brother is an esteemed one, As I mentioned, I was contacted by a team at U of CO. At my request, Thierry gave them scans and they are n the process of acquiring DNA samples. I believe these guys are established academics with the credentials, integrity and independence to get this to peer review, one way or the other, I personally have gone back and forth about the mummys' authenticity, but there is much in my experience to suggest that they are at least not modern "fakes". I am not a fan of Mr. Mausann, and I am wary of some of the scientists he consults, but I know with 100% certainty that Thierry Jamin is honorable and sincere. I personally financed the most recent CT scans, and as you know, they cannot be faked; far too much data. I have no reason to question the abilities or integrity of the scientists from U of ICA, but I do not know them. IN any case, all of these scientists are putting their reputations on the line with this. Now that Michio Kaku is involved, we will find out what's what.
>Now that Michio Kaku is involved, we will find out what's what. Thanks for this! How is Michio Kaku involved?
yes he saw some data and was really suprised. Requested samples. He is involved now.
Lol
I'd love to see some evidence.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/gyxRkztjxH Download the almost 300 page paper, I bet you won't There is so much evidence but you need to look for it
And so much of it is an opinion piece, not a scientific paper. Certainly not peer reviewed by any reputable scientist. By the way, how did these things walk without any ankle joints. Do they just shuffle or hop? Trying to figure that out.
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Also known as a squeeze-box. I wonder if they can carry a tune?
The fact so many experienced individuals are putting their careers on the line to sign that they support this suggests that this is the most credible evidence of non-human intelligent life we've ever seen. The fact that these live streams are hard to find and aren't getting coverage suggest to me that there's quite a bit of suppression happening here and major news outlets have an embargo on reporting on this. Exciting times, it's definitely given me some happiness to know that these really do exist, but I doubt we'll see real disclosure until 2027.
2027? What did I miss?
2027 is just a date that keeps popping up in these circles, sometimes it's something like 'the drip drip of disclosure is picking up pace because the aliens are supposed to be arriving in 2027 and revealing them selves weather we are ready or not, so those in the know are having their hands forced' personally I doubt it's on that level, but there is clearly a concerted push, and that date is popping up again and again, is it just an artifact of the echo chamber? Who knows, not I 🙄
Got it. Thanks for the insight!
A few birthdays?
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wrong school [https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/](https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/)
The robot insurance was the best protection plan I ever purchased. From American Heritage Insurance. Sorry. A triggered memory.
The 'university' barely qualified as a vocational college, it's lost funding and accreditation several times in the past two decades. Who are these scientific experts? The team lead isn't qualified and has been pushing alien hoaxes for half a decade to drive tourism to Peru, hardly an impartial, objective world heading scientest. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/GSVrn0HFvI
For anyone claiming this is some no-name university, there's a bogus listing that comes up on Edurank, probably some placeholder or no-name diploma mill: [https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/](https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/) The actual name of the university that studied the mummies is: Universidad Nacional San Luis Gonzaga de Ica. And they have perfectly respectable rankings: [https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/](https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/) \#9048 of 14,131 In [the World](https://edurank.org/geo/) \#653 of 1,756 In [Latin America](https://edurank.org/geo/la/) \#48 of 136 In [Peru](https://edurank.org/geo/pe/) \#1 of 2 In [Ica](https://edurank.org/geo/ica/)
For anyone who doubts it, just scroll right to 1:10:01 in OP's video and they have their university's seal and name in front and center. I'll go on record as being deeply skeptical of all this but let's get our ducks in a row.
[This post is claiming](https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/17q7hnt/comment/k8bui02/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) they [lost their SUNEDU accreditation in 2019.](https://elcomercio-pe.translate.goog/peru/ica/sunedu-nego-licencia-a-la-universidad-nacional-san-luis-gonzaga-de-ica-noticia/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
Top 10K school. That’s pretty solid.
Have they released a paper on this? If not, why in the world should I believe it?
Would you demand a paper to believe that a new species of Lecertilla was discovered in New Guinea by a university? Would you demand a paper to believe that scientists discovered a technique to induce lucid dreaming? You wouldn't, and the reason is because you didn't have preconceived ideas for an exact number of lizards in New Guinea, nor the mechanisms for inducing lucid dreams. What you and so many others do have, that you refuse to address, are preconceived notions about life in the cosmos and our place in it. Wonder why that is.
You don't need a paper to see that grass is green. But if you make the claim as world-shattering as these guys and expect everyone to believe it without AT LEAST a paper to back it up, then yeah, it's a joke.
Millions of people around the world have witnessed UFOs since WW2, and now those sightings are backed by military radar and other sensors, not to mention mountains if goverment documents, yet there are virtually no academic papers about their existence. Why do you suppose that is?
Even if someone in academia does care about it, what are they going to do? Stare up at the night sky and wait for a little grey man to appear saying "SOS!"? You say UFO. Those are actively looked into by the military and is really of no interest to academia, as they are the problem of the military (them being foreign drones with the potential to do harm, directly or indirectly \[regardless of your belief about their origin\]). I'm not even sure who in the academic world would look into this phenomena. What field is "UFO watcher"? What do you need a PhD in to say "hey im gonna look for ufos and write about them"?
Yes, I would want a peer reviewed paper. That’s how this stuff works.
I would want a paper yes lol
That's precisely the kind of topics that need to be backed by a peer reviewed paper.
Those stats don’t look so good homie lol
Why are comments getting deleted on previous posts about this? Genuinely asking because I’ve never seen anything like that happening in real time before.
What do you mean?
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Disinformation and suppression in real time.
“ErM noT unTiL thE uS conFiRmS iT!!!” 🤓
It's crazy to me that people think that disclosure will come from the biggest gatekeepers and obsfucators of this topic across history I do not trust the US one bit when it comes to this topic
Same here. Frankly I’m glad the U.S. doesn’t have their hands on these, they would bury them so fast
that these ones being studied were obtained through tomb raiding and smuggling is probably why the US let it slip, it was all off the book they would absolutely make them disappear if they got their grubby hands on them
If they went through the "correct" channels (e.g. donated them to an Ivy), they would never have seen the light of day.
No, they should have immediately donated them to the Peruvian government. Then there would have been an evidence trail and documentation. But they decided to go for the $$$
I'm not a conspiracy geek. Cause they are out to cover everything up, right?
Agreed. Do you also see the value in a broad array of international sanctions being levied against the US to force disclosure from them?
Sanctions just punish the people, not the people exploiting them. It will radicalize Americans, who are already fascist, or on the verge of fascism. Remember, Americans are the descendants of radical British who went to war against their homeland. And immigrants who think capitalism is good.
Lol no, never gonna happen.
Hey Guys, Guess what? I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens
OnLy eGnLisH sPeaKiNg sCiEnTiStS aRe ReAl sCiEnTiStS
Exactly. I'm in the USA, and it's becoming more embarrassing every year to have to live with that.
I second that, we can’t be so naive and pig headed to think that the west produces the best scientists. It’s just that the west has a lot of money to throw at news outlets and mass media, that allow those easily influenced to think in the manner that they do. There are scientists in all corners of the globe, working on things we can’t wrap our minds around.
No offense, but this "peer review is racist" narrative hurts your cause. Science should be in the public domain.
>Science should be in the public domain. most definitely. there's plenty of data on the mummies that are publicly available already
There is also a lot that isn't publicly available. Release the DICOM files.
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>University of Ica Incorrect. You looked up "University of Ica" which is probably some placeholder or no-name diploma mill: [https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/](https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/) The actual name of the university that studied the mummies is: Universidad Nacional San Luis Gonzaga de Ica. And they have perfectly respectable rankings:[https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/](https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/) \#9048 of 14,131 In [the World](https://edurank.org/geo/) \#653 of 1,756 In [Latin America](https://edurank.org/geo/la/) \#48 of 136 In [Peru](https://edurank.org/geo/pe/) \#1 of 2 In [Ica](https://edurank.org/geo/ica/)
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Peer review is very cool and I'm looking forward to it. The United States has a history of burying/destroying this shit so maybe send it to be peer reviewed everywhere else. Only after every other credible foreign research facility has reviewed it, should the US even begin to get pieces. Mexico and South America have shown themselves to be the adults in the room.
Lordy - another unsubstantiated claim.
I confirm to you that this uni is empty as fuck https://elcomercio-pe.translate.goog/peru/ica/sunedu-nego-licencia-a-la-universidad-nacional-san-luis-gonzaga-de-ica-noticia/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp&fbclid=IwAR32uBSt7-XAPhP429dX6oCZo_OPUtEpZ7_eEndPdtdDIRh-Z1g9dmysKcg
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Wrong school [https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/](https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/)
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Originally I thought this complete BS, not any more. I do agree if the US got the hands on the mummies that we would it would never see the light of day!
I’m willing to bet the US government has even more compelling evidence
I heard the second half live. I’ve been following this fairly closely for the past couple months, and even still, that was incredible
I’m sure the debunkers will admit they were wrong any moment now. Annnny moment.
I set several RemindMe!’s on their comments weeks ago 😆
Any guess to how they will move the goalposts next? I’m out of ideas, but I’m sure they will be creative.
“nOw We nEeD AmerIcAn dOCtorS” But then we’ll call them racist.
They already said it - “need it to be peer reviewed”
That's how science works.
Why is this person getting downvoted? That’s literally how science works…we don’t tend to treat things with true legitimacy until peer review wtf people
They want to believe in this so badly that they’ve chosen to be anti-science about it. I see lots of fanaticism in these comments that reminds me of religious people.
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Still waiting for the article on the un accredited university's website.
Your lack of understanding of the scientific process is disturbing. Heres a hint -- it's called peer review...and the paper isn't even published yet. Will it cause a storm and controversy and debate? Probably. But scientific debate is part of the process before any hypothesis becomes accepted.
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It’s not making the US News list of top unis, I concur. But if that’s your goalpost move, that’s terribly weak.
Wrong school [https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/](https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/)
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Can someone post an article or something? I can’t even find the university. I really want to read about this
Source of announcement, at 1:16:43 in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHyMlkm7Njo University website, waiting for publication still: https://www.unica.edu.pe
The university denies any involvement
The website has absolutely nothing suggesting alien bodies. The YouTube video is hardly an official anything. The university hasn’t put it on their site or make their own statement Edit: dude you guys are just spiteful I’m not saying anything mean or untrue… The university has now denied involvement. Y yo habla español. And I speak Spanish I guess this will continue to be downvoted?? I don’t get it I’m way into aliens too…
I’m sure they’ll post it any minute now.
Why is he being down voted, he's right
The university has officially stated they have had 0 involvement with the bodiesz
Call me a commie bastard, but I personally think it's a good thing that the university leading the study of these specimens found in Ica, Peru is from, well, Ica, Peru. Are the US and UK (for instance) better known for their study of cultural artefacts from across the world? Yes, but then they're even more well known (over the last 400 years or so) for taking other nations' artefacts and not giving them back. Will it take a little longer for the maximum possible amount of findings to be uncovered at such a self-described understaffed and under-equipped university? Oh sure, but in the long term those findings could be an amazing sociocultural boon for Peru. I say let 'em cook, why the need for a rush?
And yet we still won't really hear this in mainstream media. I would still love other countries to peer review though, but nonetheless it's still exciting.
They can’t bury it forever, but they will ignore it as long as possible
I worry that the moment they enter a famous school they will disappear. Or they'll get sent to the Smithsonian to be mothballed like all the other paranormal things. What is the threshold for belief here? I'm not sure I even know what it is for myself...
Sounds like you've made your mind up already.
What do you think?
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Gosh that sounds pretty bad, please help me! What do you propose?
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That’s a bit of a mood shift from what you just said a second ago. I think perhaps you held up a mirror to yourself when you wrote the description.
My military buddy said we should hear it in the US media before Thanksgiving. He said the words alien disclosure before Thanksgiving. He told me this about 3 weeks ago
Ok so the mummies are roughly 60cm tall. Yet they found 30cm hands. If you estimate the 60cm mummy hands are about 8cm long, and then guess the size of the 30cm hands whole body, (with the help of AI) The original humanoid was 60cm tall 60cm = 23.62 inches 23.62 inches = 1 foot 11.62 inches The new humanoid was 225cm tall 225cm = 88.58 inches 88.58 inches = 7 feet 4.58 inches So in summary: Original humanoid: 1 foot 11.62 inches New humanoid with larger hands: 7 feet 4.58 inches The fucking big ones are 7 foot 4.6 inches tall!
Damn! Tall greys?
Do you have a link I can share with people?
Watching the website… https://www.unica.edu.pe
I didn't find that very helpful. But thank you anyway.
There’s not much to share yet unless you want to find the announcement within the YouTube video of the hearing. It was like half way through Edit: Listen in at one hour 16 minutes and 43 seconds on this video https://www.youtube.com/live/XHyMlkm7Njo?si=0HJgkQnVDuFtxkk8
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Could we get a link to this Universities website? I'm having trouble locating it, thx!
https://www.unica.edu.pe
Where's their announcement and/or publication of results? I didn't see anything on their site mentioning it.
It’s not there yet. Only announced at the Mexican hearing like 45 minutes ago.
Oh well it’s important to see this stuff. UFO community is basically eternally saying ‘we got proof’ and then not releasing anything. I believe in aliens so don’t crucify me please.
Thanks!
Question is, will majority of people bat an eye and read about it though to form their own coherent thoughts or just glance at an article and go back to their day-to-day tasks?
The argument that they are some kind of poor university is so lame guys. Are you telling me theses guys doesn’t know how to properly run dna and tissu testing ? The proof is right there. They called them myths, legend, gods, Anunaki, but here it is. The pieces of the puzzle are rapidly assembling and the real world paradigm will emerge soon. I’m pretty sure about that.
Why, exactly, would running alien DNA samples being even remotely similar to terrestrial life though? Why would aliens have DNA in the first place?? Not even all living things on earth have DNA (if you count RNA viruses)
NaSa Has not COnFirmED , TherEForE NoT ReaL..........
The mummies have been proven real. The doors are open for researchers from all over the world to see the mummies in person. Doubters and skeptics are also welcome. The fact is that these being were alive.
Where can I see the paper stuff?
I’m waiting for an update on the website. But they only announced it at Jaime’s conference just now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHyMlkm7Njo
Well it's been a couple weeks and I still can't find a research paper on this topic. It's hard to follow the scientific method without a writeup on their methods. I mean, without their SPECIFIC findings and methods, we have literally no way to peer review their findings. I hope this team is still working on getting published because the specific writeup would answer a lot of questions.
Can we read the published work anywhere?
Not yet. Watch Maussan’s twitter
.....aaaaand?
You forgot the link to the article from the university… Very interested in reading about this, but can’t find it anywhere.
Not available yet
I'm pretty stoked about this, their white paper report not out yet?
That’s some conclusion they have announced, they must have some incredible data gathered on these things. What’s the evidence they have examined? When are they submitting a manuscript for publication? Or is it just full steam ahead with science by press conference?
I love how you show a rapper talking like he is an expert and can make any scientific claims.. i mean their expert was a rapper , a rapper. second of all it was not the University of Ica that is one of the worst rated universities in the world. It was San Luis Gonzaga National University at Ica and they also denied any involvement but said their professor Roger can do anything he wants outside of the university. but make no claims about being involved.
They also said they were from the future, so I’ll be a little cautious
I agree! That part I am not sold on
I didn’t like the old Argentinian doctor who claimed a few of the bodies are from the future, and that rapper. But it was good presentation nonetheless.
I think people misunderstood him here. As a native Spanish speaker I feel like he was trying to make people understand that their anatomy and structure resembled something that would exist in the future, if you tried to estimate what a future species would look like. In other words, if you travelled millions of years into the future, you would likely see beings that looked like this. Especially once humanity was no longer around. I don't think he's saying that they are from the future, but that their anatomy doesn't match the era in which they existed. They appear to be highly evolved beings that likely were much more intelligent than humans in ways we don't know yet. For all we know these beings ascended in ways we don't know, and we got left behind.
This is so fake. The university lost its accreditation wait for it….. 4 years ago. Now they publish nonsense online and work with known fraudsters. Next.
lol no they didn't. perhaps you are looking at the other uni in Ica (since there are confusingly two). The correct uni is the San Luis Gonzaga University of Ica. and it checks out just fine
This seems to be translated and somewhat poorly, but it appears to say they were denied accreditation. I’ve seen other reference Spanish language documents that say the same. https://newsbeezer.com/perueng/sunedu-denies-the-national-university-of-san-luis-gonzaga-de-ica-the-institutional-license/
thanks for providing that link! That certainly is really important to know. I don't suppose they've regained accreditation?
I can’t find anything. In fact there is barely anything from them officially online. The more I look the more this feels like a backwater school that was likely bribed or otherwise manipulated. The guy behind all of this is a documented scam artist. If this was legit it would have been brought to a major university in Peru or abroad. Not the 9,000 rated school out of 14000 in the world. It would be equivalent to me going to an unaccredited community college in the US and getting them to verify potentially the greatest discovery in human history. Doesn’t make sense and should be raising everyone’s red flags.
It just straight up reeks of a ploy to maintain/gain relevance.
yeah, that is highly suspect and just doesn't look great. I've got an open mind and would love for these mummies to be real, but not being able to find much about the uni or the profs who signed it certainly hampers trust
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https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/ Looks like they’re the ITT tech of Peru. You’d think they’d be proud of proving aliens are real. Maybe publish an article. Perhaps a blurb on the website. I’m sure it’ll be done soon though…
How do you post a claim like this with no source? I'd really like to read the publication and see what was said, what they tested, how they came to their conclusion.
The source is the hearing happening right now. The chief of investigations of the University of Ica is currently going through the step by step they went through to make sure it wasn't faked, and earlier during the hearing they released a video statement making it clear that they reached that conclusion after four years of studying the corpses. You can catch him speaking still if you tune in right now: https://www.youtube.com/live/XHyMlkm7Njo?si=XQoXhoFKjpbxOmki
You're awesome thank you!
You're welcome! The hearing has been very interesting so far
Me too! We’ll see it soon I bet. Watch their site. This is breaking news.
You linked a YT video and a university website (that doesn't deliver any evidence) as your sources for this claim. And you guys wonder why people are skeptical or straight up deeming y'all non-credible. Edit: The YT video claims that "rigorous tests" were completed. That's extremely vague, I test electronics for a living and if I make a claim, I have to back it up by proving my test setup logic as well as many other things. How about they publish their findings, showcase what they tested, how they tested it, and what they believe the collected data proves?
please, you are making laugh and it is starting to hurt.
>The University of Ica is a SUNEDU accrediated unverisity, which is the highest accreditation Peru can give to a university. [https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/](https://edurank.org/uni/private-university-of-ica/) According to the above, the University of Ica is ranked 128th of 136 universities in Peru and number 1,625 of 1,756 of universities in South America. I'm open minded as always but this isn't exactly a good look. Edit: see u/[**MegaChar64**](https://www.reddit.com/user/MegaChar64/) comment I apparently have the wrong university
That’s the wrong university
ty I saw another comment mentioning the edurank and have edited my comment
Yeah in reality this just reeks of a ploy to gain relevance/PR
Uuuh not o until Donald says so this is Merica! I’m so excited !thanks for posting the translated link!
University of Ica Rankings. 2 of 2 In Ica - Bottom of the local group, 128 of 136 In Peru - pretty much the bottom of the country. 1625 of 1,756 In Latin America - one of the lowest in Latin America. 13550 of 14,131 In the World - Bottom 10% in the whole world. This not take their information as fact until it has been backed up but a University or Institution with some real professors.
Wrong university
How many uni of ica are there in Peru?
They don't speak English down there papi. I think you should leave the thinking to the big boys if you can't wrap your head around the fact a Spanish speaking country wouldn't have an institution named in English https://edurank.org/uni/san-luis-gonzaga-national-university/
So I'm not convinced until there are studies by tier one academia. I also think there's likely been under the table communication with established govt. and academic researchers and findings are either that it's bs, or they're not releasing. My guess would be BS because the Peruvian govt would have been pressured to release the mummies and paid off by the US or another super power. And that didn't happen. My question, and I'm serious is, what do you expect people to do? Freak out? Take to the streets? Suddenly unite in one world govt and join hands across borders? I think most people accepted the existence of aliens somewhere and the small potential for aliens here decades ago. These mummies, given they're alien, are super interesting and provide a lot to chew on and even then support a far greater likelihood of existing contact. And then... so what? Then govts are colluding or whatever and probably have been for generations. So what? It's built in to our current societies and all the problems we have that we create. What is the the existence of aliens to my mortgage or rent. To the rise of fascism again. To the incoming end of the anthropocene. If aliens save us, then great. If they don't, not a shocker. Either way I have stuff to do today to earn money and pay the bills.