Absolutely. Jesus taught us that through our eyes alone we sin, nevermind acting on it. Devil knows the games he plays.
By having women and even men dress so immodest these days, we are in a continual sexualized attack from every direction.
It's almost impossible these days not to have some sort of thought like that cross your mind with how much we are bombarded with this type of content or even out in the world. You can't even go to Walmart without running into people wearing ridiculously revealing attire.
Call me old school or whatever, but people for the most part wear this crap to get attention. Seldom do people do it because it "feels comfortable".
Women's beachwear in particular has become so immodest that I recommend Christian men avoid going to public beaches and water parks altogether in order to protect their own eyes from lust.
Bikinis and thongs are likely worse than what prostitutes wore in Sodom and Gomorrah!
> "But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
- Matthew 5:28
You mentioned bikinis and thongs(I don't know what it is...),but may I also add women wearing men's shorts and trousers. If we knew the sort of stench the culture/ society is we would be even be afraid to step out of our doors. American culture is not the exception but in Africa too as America as the capital of the world has diffused it throughout the world.
> Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.
1 Timothy 2:9-10
> “A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God."
Deuteronomy 22:5
> Do not love the world or the things in the world. If
anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John 2:15
> Training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age,
Titus 2:12
> Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
Romans 12:2
Yes, and I say that as a woman. I do not feel oppressed or repressed by wearing modest clothing. In fact, more and more, it’s not only comelier but sets me apart from my younger fellow women. I appreciate that I am *not* the center of attention.
You seem like a true woman of God.
> Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.
1 Timothy 2:9-10
Thank you, friend. And you seem like a true man of God. I pray men and women of God stay glued together in these days and times. So with that sentiment, the Lord bless and keep your ministry safe, Mr. Gummies. You and your ministry are very much appreciated. 🙏🏻
Thank you for the kind words, we're in this together as a body of believers. As long as this sub stays online, we'll keep each other informed and updated.
Biblically yes it is. There is also plenty of evidence to support that its the end of the U.S atleast. Every time a leading civilization is on the verge of collapse there is proliferation in homosexuality, promiscuity, drug use, and reprobate activities in general. Its a snowball effect, Godless behavior causes society to degrade while societies degradation causes godless behavior. As a society turns their back on God, God turns his back on said society. Flavius Josephus recorded a guy name John of Giscala turning men to cross dressing and homosexual behaviors in 69 a.d. Jerusalem and the second temple were destroyed in 70 a.d. I am not saying that it caused the fall of Jerusalem but John of Giscala was a product of foul spirits that began to gain sway as many turn their backs on God and Jesus. You can find records in many places of this kind of stuff happening in other major civilizations. Rome, Greece, and Babylon for certain but I would wager its been every single other major civilization throughout history
It is indeed sad and times are getting worse. Neuralink just got the ok to start human trails, possible WW3, general mental instability, etc. The principalities and powers have corrupted peoples minds so thoroughly that you can't even have a rational discussion with them. Try to save those you can before its too late.
So cross dressing and this stuff was in ancient Rome,Greece and Babylon as you mentioned the example of Giscala. But I bet to differ, it has been said time and again that decadence will destroy America but it continues to thrive being the number one economy in 2023.The destruction of America as the end-time Babylon the Great will be very severe, pre-determined by God and will surprise all.Her sins have reached as high as heaven.Most of the things Western men, economists, political scientists, historians will tell us about the signs of the decline or fall of America are all not true and a deception. As an end-time Babylon the great her judgement, fall and eventual destruction is a secret kept and known only by God.
I have had many arguments with my beautiful wife over this very topic over the years - it got us to marriage counselling. I have yielded it to the Lord, she at least now will be respectful and ask my opinion.
I care very little these days, im accountable for myself before God. These are wicked immodest days and most women...even Christian women see no problem with short dresses or super tight clothing or bikinis.
They will be judged next to the modest women of old.... literally every century before ours!
Anyway my wife and i are good but she still has a much looser view on modesty than i.
>They will be judged next to the modest women of old.... literally every century before ours!
Reminds me of a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bibleconspiracy/comments/woe8k2/christian_women_set_themselves_apart_from_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I did last year.
Yeah it's sad what feminism has done. The fact its even an argument to say bikinis are immodest is a joke.
Im not a proponent of headcoverings but i do believe long hair is that covering. I would be content with 1940s apparal which was....modest!
Anyway, the hour is late and we are accountable for ourselves. The Lord will judge justly and I guarantee there will be no bikinis in the millennium. May His kingdom come!
I simply avert my eyes from beautiful women. Many walk around half naked.
Tell your wife to check out the transformed wife, her book and Instagram. There’s such a thing as biblical womenhood. It shouldn’t be you yielding your desires for what your wife should or shouldn’t be wearing, I think you’ll find the bible is in favour of your wife submitting to you.
Something I have learned is that no one can "make" another submit to them. The power is really in those that submits hands.
A woman can submit to her husband freely and make a relationship traditional. A man cannot make his wife submit to him. Its really up to the woman if the relationship will be egalitarian or traditional. My wife has an egalitarian mindset. I have a traditionalist (complementarian mindset). If I force it, it ends in strife and fighting...so I dont. You cant make people submit to you.
If a person wants to do what they want, they will do what they want - theres nothing a person can do about it. So last year I truly yielded it to God, and washed my hands of it. I will stand guiltless at the judgement for I strived with her. I don't think she'll be damned but I do think Christ will rebuke her for it then.
Anyway, thats long in the past now. We have a decent relationship, I just don't see myself as responsible for her anymore. I have learned to treasure Christ above her and He is my portion. I love her but we dont see eye to eye on attire.
Strong willed women exist and a man cant tame them, only God can.
I agree with you but I don’t think you should give up on it. She’s your wife you will be responsible of her. Don’t think you can say well I tried and now I’m washing my hands of it. Keep praying and asking God how to help your marriage be more Godly. Your marriage can be so much more than just a “decent relationship”.
Righteous living (modesty, humility) should follow baptism in the life of a true believer. Freedom in Christ doesn't mean we can live and look like the rest of the world. This is serving two masters, like the lukewarm church of Laodicea.
No.
Morals are relative even amongst Christians. Things mentioned in the Bible are universal, but when it comes to clothing the Bible doesn't say much.
Some cultures don't think anything about a naked women, or exposed breasts.
Some languages don't have swear words.
These things are morals or morays. They are relative from one culture to the next. The ethics, universal rules, are not invoked.
Jesus predicted that because lawlessness will abound the love of many will grow cold.Some of these things have now gone unnoticed and become seeped into the culture. In Ghana you can hardly go out without seeing a woman in tight jeans and tight clothings or painted and elongated nails. The manufacturers of such clothing have to answer to God. So yes, global decline of modest clothing is a sign of the end-times. Before Jesus comes worst of such things will come. That is why He warned us to be watchful.
Absolutely. Jesus taught us that through our eyes alone we sin, nevermind acting on it. Devil knows the games he plays. By having women and even men dress so immodest these days, we are in a continual sexualized attack from every direction. It's almost impossible these days not to have some sort of thought like that cross your mind with how much we are bombarded with this type of content or even out in the world. You can't even go to Walmart without running into people wearing ridiculously revealing attire. Call me old school or whatever, but people for the most part wear this crap to get attention. Seldom do people do it because it "feels comfortable".
Well said. May God and Jesus continue to bless you mightily.
Women's beachwear in particular has become so immodest that I recommend Christian men avoid going to public beaches and water parks altogether in order to protect their own eyes from lust. Bikinis and thongs are likely worse than what prostitutes wore in Sodom and Gomorrah! > "But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart." - Matthew 5:28
You mentioned bikinis and thongs(I don't know what it is...),but may I also add women wearing men's shorts and trousers. If we knew the sort of stench the culture/ society is we would be even be afraid to step out of our doors. American culture is not the exception but in Africa too as America as the capital of the world has diffused it throughout the world.
> Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. 1 Timothy 2:9-10 > “A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God." Deuteronomy 22:5 > Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15 > Training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, Titus 2:12 > Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. Romans 12:2
Yes, and I say that as a woman. I do not feel oppressed or repressed by wearing modest clothing. In fact, more and more, it’s not only comelier but sets me apart from my younger fellow women. I appreciate that I am *not* the center of attention.
You seem like a true woman of God. > Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. 1 Timothy 2:9-10
Thank you, friend. And you seem like a true man of God. I pray men and women of God stay glued together in these days and times. So with that sentiment, the Lord bless and keep your ministry safe, Mr. Gummies. You and your ministry are very much appreciated. 🙏🏻
Thank you for the kind words, we're in this together as a body of believers. As long as this sub stays online, we'll keep each other informed and updated.
Biblically yes it is. There is also plenty of evidence to support that its the end of the U.S atleast. Every time a leading civilization is on the verge of collapse there is proliferation in homosexuality, promiscuity, drug use, and reprobate activities in general. Its a snowball effect, Godless behavior causes society to degrade while societies degradation causes godless behavior. As a society turns their back on God, God turns his back on said society. Flavius Josephus recorded a guy name John of Giscala turning men to cross dressing and homosexual behaviors in 69 a.d. Jerusalem and the second temple were destroyed in 70 a.d. I am not saying that it caused the fall of Jerusalem but John of Giscala was a product of foul spirits that began to gain sway as many turn their backs on God and Jesus. You can find records in many places of this kind of stuff happening in other major civilizations. Rome, Greece, and Babylon for certain but I would wager its been every single other major civilization throughout history
As I read your list, all I could think about was \*check, check, check, check\* in reference to our country. Sad times.
It is indeed sad and times are getting worse. Neuralink just got the ok to start human trails, possible WW3, general mental instability, etc. The principalities and powers have corrupted peoples minds so thoroughly that you can't even have a rational discussion with them. Try to save those you can before its too late.
So cross dressing and this stuff was in ancient Rome,Greece and Babylon as you mentioned the example of Giscala. But I bet to differ, it has been said time and again that decadence will destroy America but it continues to thrive being the number one economy in 2023.The destruction of America as the end-time Babylon the Great will be very severe, pre-determined by God and will surprise all.Her sins have reached as high as heaven.Most of the things Western men, economists, political scientists, historians will tell us about the signs of the decline or fall of America are all not true and a deception. As an end-time Babylon the great her judgement, fall and eventual destruction is a secret kept and known only by God.
I have had many arguments with my beautiful wife over this very topic over the years - it got us to marriage counselling. I have yielded it to the Lord, she at least now will be respectful and ask my opinion. I care very little these days, im accountable for myself before God. These are wicked immodest days and most women...even Christian women see no problem with short dresses or super tight clothing or bikinis. They will be judged next to the modest women of old.... literally every century before ours! Anyway my wife and i are good but she still has a much looser view on modesty than i.
>They will be judged next to the modest women of old.... literally every century before ours! Reminds me of a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bibleconspiracy/comments/woe8k2/christian_women_set_themselves_apart_from_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I did last year.
Yeah it's sad what feminism has done. The fact its even an argument to say bikinis are immodest is a joke. Im not a proponent of headcoverings but i do believe long hair is that covering. I would be content with 1940s apparal which was....modest! Anyway, the hour is late and we are accountable for ourselves. The Lord will judge justly and I guarantee there will be no bikinis in the millennium. May His kingdom come! I simply avert my eyes from beautiful women. Many walk around half naked.
You hit the nail right on the end at the beginning of your statement. Feminism is the problem.
Tell your wife to check out the transformed wife, her book and Instagram. There’s such a thing as biblical womenhood. It shouldn’t be you yielding your desires for what your wife should or shouldn’t be wearing, I think you’ll find the bible is in favour of your wife submitting to you.
Something I have learned is that no one can "make" another submit to them. The power is really in those that submits hands. A woman can submit to her husband freely and make a relationship traditional. A man cannot make his wife submit to him. Its really up to the woman if the relationship will be egalitarian or traditional. My wife has an egalitarian mindset. I have a traditionalist (complementarian mindset). If I force it, it ends in strife and fighting...so I dont. You cant make people submit to you. If a person wants to do what they want, they will do what they want - theres nothing a person can do about it. So last year I truly yielded it to God, and washed my hands of it. I will stand guiltless at the judgement for I strived with her. I don't think she'll be damned but I do think Christ will rebuke her for it then. Anyway, thats long in the past now. We have a decent relationship, I just don't see myself as responsible for her anymore. I have learned to treasure Christ above her and He is my portion. I love her but we dont see eye to eye on attire. Strong willed women exist and a man cant tame them, only God can.
I agree with you but I don’t think you should give up on it. She’s your wife you will be responsible of her. Don’t think you can say well I tried and now I’m washing my hands of it. Keep praying and asking God how to help your marriage be more Godly. Your marriage can be so much more than just a “decent relationship”.
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That’s all good mate, if you think that, that’s fine. God bless.
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Righteous living (modesty, humility) should follow baptism in the life of a true believer. Freedom in Christ doesn't mean we can live and look like the rest of the world. This is serving two masters, like the lukewarm church of Laodicea.
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Ok that's great.
No. Morals are relative even amongst Christians. Things mentioned in the Bible are universal, but when it comes to clothing the Bible doesn't say much. Some cultures don't think anything about a naked women, or exposed breasts. Some languages don't have swear words. These things are morals or morays. They are relative from one culture to the next. The ethics, universal rules, are not invoked.
Jesus predicted that because lawlessness will abound the love of many will grow cold.Some of these things have now gone unnoticed and become seeped into the culture. In Ghana you can hardly go out without seeing a woman in tight jeans and tight clothings or painted and elongated nails. The manufacturers of such clothing have to answer to God. So yes, global decline of modest clothing is a sign of the end-times. Before Jesus comes worst of such things will come. That is why He warned us to be watchful.