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Russians have been pushing towards Vuhledar since late 2022. It must be the largest repository of destroyed armoured vehicles in history by now. It is insane. We saw large armoured columns wiped out in December 2022, and they keep trying 18 months later.
The late 2022 - early 2023 push on Vuhledar was atrocious. I think it's the most successful Ukrainian defense of the entire war. Russia lost probably more on Avdiivka/Bakhmut but the in Vuhledar they didn't manage to gain a single foothold.
That was what I got on a second watch on my PC as well. There were also definitely a few more maybe's. So wild man, the level of desperation is at an all time high.
What's insane is not the number, it's that they all went down in basically the same spot. Some commander decided to send at least half a dozen assaulting squads, on the same route, one after another, despite watching the previous batches all getting destroyed in that one location.
As they say, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result...
They started well but they fucked it up quickly. The whole point of using bikes was combining speed with dispersion. Sending a horde of bikers kills the point of using bikes.
I don’t see any bodies. Maybe that was either the planned dismount point or they were flagged down and told “ride past the end of this tree line and they can see you and will wipe you out. Time to get off the bikes and start legging it boys”.
You always get the “Russia is doing great crowd” but we are in the 3rd year of the invasion by Russia and go look at a map and how close to the border all the action is taking place.
Exactly.
Nevermind the fact they are confirmed visually to have lost ~3000 MBT, ~8000 APC, and thousands upon thousands of artillery, rocket and mortar systems.
Or that Russia has gone from taking 32% of Ukraine in March 2022 to 21% as of June 2024 - and these numbers include Crimea, Luhansk & Donetsk.
Or that Ukraine strikes with impunity anywhere across Russia they want to.
Or that only 4 out of 195 nations have voted 'with Russia' in the war (those being NKorea, Eritrea, Belarus and Venezuela). Not even Iran, Cuba or China voted in support.
What's happened is, Putin has cracked down so hard on anyone even making a peep against the war that people are terrorized into supporting it.
Great cause they have there; so more Russians will die.
One day they (Russias citizens) will learn the full extent of this debacle and it will shock the shit out of them.
In the meantime, it's taken a nation that was fractured in politics and forged them into a nation - a nation that literally seethes at all things Russian.
Honestly any time Russian propoganda has me unnerved I remember that this was supposed to be a “3 day military operation” that Putin had planned for at least 10 years, that alone is enough reason to know this war isn’t being won
Agreed. And when Pootie clowns say, "who said it was going to take three days?" Like as if they're pulling a 'gotcha', I have to remind or inform them: A) Pootie actually said 'days'
B) they sent that ass clown Yunakovich to Minsk to await the capture of Kiev and on day 4, he flew back to Russia all dejected.
C) when Ukraine counterattacked at Kharkiv in 2022, they overran the vaunted 1st Guards Tank Army HQ - within it they found documents describing the Operations Order for the invasion, which said 3-4 days to Kiev and 10 days total.
D) the Russians led with Rosgvardia (military police) units into Kharkiv, Kiev, Chernihiv, etc, that were slaughtered because they were expecting riot suppression not a full blown war.
E) the Russians clearly expected a very short conflict - they hadn't put their economy on a war footing or even bothered to pull back all their overseas investments which are now frozen, shorting themselves $300billion in assets that are now helping fund Ukraine (the interest, so far but the principal is likely to be released).
All of which is hilariously funny and shows the Kremlin is run by the Keystone Cops.
All trade should be banned to Russia because no matter what you sell them they will use in the war against Ukraine. I bet all these motorbikes are imported to Russia and then being used in the war.
Basically yes. Analysts have noted many times that the russians clearly have orders to "keep pushing" non stop, even when the more sensible option would be to build up mass and try to achieve some deeper punches through Ukrainian lines.
Attack everywhere so Ukraine has to reinforce everywhere.
That fixes Ukraine forces in place, which makes it harder for them to put together enough troops for a large assault.
Its not a great strategy but Russia is slowly gaining ground. The cost to the Russians is lots of destroyed armor and having to pay large sums to their soldiers of fortune- so we'll see how long they can keep this up.
humanity is scary. How people can be so easily programmed to throw their own existence away. One of the core instructions of most living things just overridden for an old mans fever dream.
This is something I can't get either. We have on life and that's it, why throw it away so easily. From psychological perspective it's very interesting but also incredibly scary as you said.
Looks like heavy artillery hit the field, caused the crater and then the vehicle drove in. We've seen it before where due to shitty visibility Russian vehicles just drive into a ditch or holes.
Just imagine the amount of scrap metal Ukrainian farmers will be finding in their fields for the next century. Russia has truly turned its entire Soveit inheritance into a Ukraine sized scrapyard
I still encounter occupier-enablers on Youtube who deny the human wave attacks occur.
I tell them if they're not man enough to bear witness for themselves it's not my problem.
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Russians have been pushing towards Vuhledar since late 2022. It must be the largest repository of destroyed armoured vehicles in history by now. It is insane. We saw large armoured columns wiped out in December 2022, and they keep trying 18 months later.
*Doing precisely what we've done 18 months before, is exactly the last thing they'll expect us to do this time.* # General Melchett
Ukrainians must run out of ammunition. Any day now. Just one last wave.
One more wave bro
Just one last wave Before we say goodbye When we sway and turn around, around, around It's like the first time
The late 2022 - early 2023 push on Vuhledar was atrocious. I think it's the most successful Ukrainian defense of the entire war. Russia lost probably more on Avdiivka/Bakhmut but the in Vuhledar they didn't manage to gain a single foothold.
Are they seriously doing the same damn thing they did last time trying to take Vuhledar in their Winter Offensive expecting different results?
No, this time they have motorcycles.
in year they will try horses
In a year they will be using North Korean tuk tuks.
...and North Koreans.
Will a horse set off a TM62? Might be a big brain move you suggested
And EW and twice as many drones
There appear to have been some T-55's in there as well.
At \~1:15 you can see a graveyard of at least 10 motorcycles.
I got closer to 20... that's so fucking insane.
24, not counting some that might have been motorbikes once.
That was what I got on a second watch on my PC as well. There were also definitely a few more maybe's. So wild man, the level of desperation is at an all time high.
What's insane is not the number, it's that they all went down in basically the same spot. Some commander decided to send at least half a dozen assaulting squads, on the same route, one after another, despite watching the previous batches all getting destroyed in that one location. As they say, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result...
The video states 19 bikes at the end.
Calvary?
Modern Ivan Calvary
Bikery
Wait so you're saying the ingenious Russian tactic of sending motorcycles into artillery barrages isn't that clever after all?
They started well but they fucked it up quickly. The whole point of using bikes was combining speed with dispersion. Sending a horde of bikers kills the point of using bikes.
It worked in Battlefield 3 okay
I'm ok with the Russians trying this as well: https://youtu.be/LrOIgxQ--Tc?si=sKsW0vzdnnLlHZx1
I don’t see any bodies. Maybe that was either the planned dismount point or they were flagged down and told “ride past the end of this tree line and they can see you and will wipe you out. Time to get off the bikes and start legging it boys”.
Every day we stray further from armoured warfare and closer to Mad Max
Russians would never learn that going out there would be a no guaranteed coming back...ALIVE!
Seriously, the sheer amount of equipment and men they've lost trying and failing to take Vuhledar, over years..
Some of these wrecks are probably from 2022 and 2023.
I guess info was correct Russia actually did bring mobile crematoriums.
The Ukrainians call them "Meatpots".
You always get the “Russia is doing great crowd” but we are in the 3rd year of the invasion by Russia and go look at a map and how close to the border all the action is taking place.
Exactly. Nevermind the fact they are confirmed visually to have lost ~3000 MBT, ~8000 APC, and thousands upon thousands of artillery, rocket and mortar systems. Or that Russia has gone from taking 32% of Ukraine in March 2022 to 21% as of June 2024 - and these numbers include Crimea, Luhansk & Donetsk. Or that Ukraine strikes with impunity anywhere across Russia they want to. Or that only 4 out of 195 nations have voted 'with Russia' in the war (those being NKorea, Eritrea, Belarus and Venezuela). Not even Iran, Cuba or China voted in support. What's happened is, Putin has cracked down so hard on anyone even making a peep against the war that people are terrorized into supporting it. Great cause they have there; so more Russians will die. One day they (Russias citizens) will learn the full extent of this debacle and it will shock the shit out of them. In the meantime, it's taken a nation that was fractured in politics and forged them into a nation - a nation that literally seethes at all things Russian.
Honestly any time Russian propoganda has me unnerved I remember that this was supposed to be a “3 day military operation” that Putin had planned for at least 10 years, that alone is enough reason to know this war isn’t being won
Agreed. And when Pootie clowns say, "who said it was going to take three days?" Like as if they're pulling a 'gotcha', I have to remind or inform them: A) Pootie actually said 'days' B) they sent that ass clown Yunakovich to Minsk to await the capture of Kiev and on day 4, he flew back to Russia all dejected. C) when Ukraine counterattacked at Kharkiv in 2022, they overran the vaunted 1st Guards Tank Army HQ - within it they found documents describing the Operations Order for the invasion, which said 3-4 days to Kiev and 10 days total. D) the Russians led with Rosgvardia (military police) units into Kharkiv, Kiev, Chernihiv, etc, that were slaughtered because they were expecting riot suppression not a full blown war. E) the Russians clearly expected a very short conflict - they hadn't put their economy on a war footing or even bothered to pull back all their overseas investments which are now frozen, shorting themselves $300billion in assets that are now helping fund Ukraine (the interest, so far but the principal is likely to be released). All of which is hilariously funny and shows the Kremlin is run by the Keystone Cops.
All trade should be banned to Russia because no matter what you sell them they will use in the war against Ukraine. I bet all these motorbikes are imported to Russia and then being used in the war.
China doesn't give a fuck. They sell these cheap mother bikes as a form of military support.
So what's the strategic thinking here? Keep pressure on Ukraine?
Basically yes. Analysts have noted many times that the russians clearly have orders to "keep pushing" non stop, even when the more sensible option would be to build up mass and try to achieve some deeper punches through Ukrainian lines.
burn ukranians resourses hoping that non ukranian friendly candates win and ukranian dont have resoruses to fight.
yeah surely by tomorrow or the next day or the next week the Ukrainians will run out of artillery, mines, and FPV drones
Attack everywhere so Ukraine has to reinforce everywhere. That fixes Ukraine forces in place, which makes it harder for them to put together enough troops for a large assault. Its not a great strategy but Russia is slowly gaining ground. The cost to the Russians is lots of destroyed armor and having to pay large sums to their soldiers of fortune- so we'll see how long they can keep this up.
The latest assault is going as planned comrades!
humanity is scary. How people can be so easily programmed to throw their own existence away. One of the core instructions of most living things just overridden for an old mans fever dream.
This is something I can't get either. We have on life and that's it, why throw it away so easily. From psychological perspective it's very interesting but also incredibly scary as you said.
wtf is that crater at 1:20++ from? thing looks like a sinkhole, holy shit.
Looks like heavy artillery hit the field, caused the crater and then the vehicle drove in. We've seen it before where due to shitty visibility Russian vehicles just drive into a ditch or holes.
yea but does it look like a 155mm?
That could have been caused by buried AT mines, perhaps several stacked onto each other (a tactic the Russians have used).
What kind of tactic is this? Wtf
Total anihilation!
Just imagine the amount of scrap metal Ukrainian farmers will be finding in their fields for the next century. Russia has truly turned its entire Soveit inheritance into a Ukraine sized scrapyard
I still encounter occupier-enablers on Youtube who deny the human wave attacks occur. I tell them if they're not man enough to bear witness for themselves it's not my problem.
01:15 I counted almost 20 destroyed motorbikes on just that Spot... damn.
Russian army doctrine for the last 2 years: See Vuhledar - die. Mission accomplished
One day i would like a guided tour of Vuhledar. What a citadel.
All these soldiers blew to piece by simple drones... War has became even more terrifying than before
I guess cope cages dont make any much a sense when ukraine just uses artillery on very visible armor
Theyre throwing tanks like seeds to birds at this point