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MSCOTTGARAND

I would just install a nice vesa TV mount and leave it there for future renters as this will be the likely mounting place going forward.


thatstickerguy

Leave it for the next renter who will probably do the same anyways. Include a TV mount if you want to be nice.


PreschoolBoole

Would probably be cheaper.


mjh2901

This go get a good heavy duty TV mount and install it using those anchors. In theory you can have soeone replace the damaged bricks and charge the renter.


scalybanana

Don’t be a landlord if you can’t handle tenants doing basic upgrades to live their life.


geriatric-sanatore

I'd at least call first and ask if it's ok to do lol


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ACcbe1986

OP should get a mount that adjusts up and down. Problem solved.


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brotie

Which is fine because that is a cheap and easy fix that should take place each time the unit turns over. TV mount here is a great idea!


88corolla

there is a 3% chance that the new tenant's mount will fit these anchors. your new tenant will be calling you to come remove these because theirs wont fit flat to the brick. or even better the new tenant tries to pull these anchors out and rips out half a brick.


MurkyTangles

They're saying to provide the TV mount, not leave the studs for the next renter's mount. Since most TVs are VESA mount, this seems like the best plan so that multiple renters aren't drilling holes all through the fireplace.


88corolla

providing a mount wouldnt be consideration it would be a requirement.


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76% of all statistics are made up on the spot so I question the odds.


cotu101

Have you not heard of VESA?


Harflin

Does VESA have standards for how the mount is attached to the wall? I had assumed it was just the mount to the display.


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88corolla

found the person thats knows a thing or two.


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Zigget

Idk about that. I would expect to fix 100 drywall holes, but drilling into bricks is a level beyond that. I like the comment of seeing up a VESA mount to not have this issue again in the future, but there should not be an expectation that you can drill into brick and be given the thumbs up if it isn't your house.


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Porbulous

As a former renter and current landlord I've always thought it was weird that lawn care falls under the tenant. It's a property maintenence item just like providing a working fridge. You can always state otherwise but I feel that it's an odd thing to expect a renter to take care of. I pay one of my tenants to mow the lawn when I'm not there (my tenants are also my roommates). Not sure if I'm alone in thinking this but I have a happy tenant and cutting a few bucks off their rent for them to do yard work is a sweet deal for both of us imo.


-hi-mom

Ad a former renter and landlord I pay for yard care. I pay for pest control. I pay to fix broken stuff. You pay rent and utilities.


Jiannies

Holy fuck we just moved out of our old place and after busting ass to get it spotless the first thing our landlords said when they showed up was “ohhhh there are so many leaves in the yard..” Thank you for that validation


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VAL9THOU

Every apartment lease agreement I've ever signed included a section that specified that hanging things on walls is explicitly allowed, and only holes bigger than the head of a hammer would be paid for out of the deposit


samtresler

A standard Blumberg lease says no such thing, which is, by far, the most used. And I will humbly apologize if you show me this mythical lease. Last I checked, "size of a hammer head" was not a legal term or recognized metric. Edit: source have lived in 15 apartments and every single.one the expectarion was any holes had to be patched by the tenant or repairs came out of the deposit. Your mileage may vary on weather a landlord enforces it, but no sane landlord agrees to let you make any holes in the wall you want smaller than "a hammer head"


elspotto

Ok, I wasn’t going to, but if you insist.


ARenovator

Thank you for your interest. O.P. will consider your suggestions. This thread is now locked.


Personal_Dot_2215

I’d put a white vacuum cap on it . It will camouflage it and still be available for future use


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WankAaron69

Once I read vacuum cap, I knew exactly what they meant despite never hearing that name either. I just thought they were called “little rubber nipples that cover pokey things so you don’t get stabbed on accident.”


timetobuyale

By accident


hello_raleigh-durham

Accidentally


WankAaron69

Piqued my curiosity. [https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/by-accident-or-on-accident/](https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/by-accident-or-on-accident/)


timetobuyale

Did you choose to reference a blog post by purpose?


WankAaron69

Touché


THEFLYINGSCOTSMAN415

TIL as well, woulda been handy to know on so many other occasions


Nova11c

Most landlords would just slather a bunch of white paint over it


don_Juan_oven

Come on, that's some cut-rate garbage. Gotta clumsily smear 2/3 of a tube of silicone caulk over it first.


smurficus103

You mean a paper wad


incensenonsense

And to be fair either OP or a previous owner did exactly that to the picture hook in the middle a little above these bolts…


VAL9THOU

There's a brick wall in my house with a few screws in it. Both are covered in white paint


Willing-Tie-3109

I see a landlord special in this pic, the nail and hanger painted over 😂


Fauntleroyfauntleroy

❤️


WolfOfPort

Angle grinder and white caulking Or leave them if thats where a tv should be mounted


crash893b

I assume you would just put 3 gallons of paint over it like everything else


d473n

These are anchors that won't come out unless drilled. Cut off as short as you can with an angle grinder or hacksaw. Drill the center with a 1/8 bit and work your up to 3/8 as these look like 3/8 anchor studs. Re-fill holes with something (caulk or mortar), sand and paint. Or you leave a TV mount as suggested. Edit: they might be 1/4 or 5/16" anchors. Hard to tell with the pics. Either way drill up to the confirmed size. Start with 1/8th


idlefritz

Looks like your renter saved you time and money.


FULLsanwhich15

Hang on…they switched to geico?


idlefritz

yes to get flush after losing 100% of their deposit


maxcresswellturner

And let alone c-c-c-c-c-cash


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idlefritz

Unfortunately it’s usually the only spot. I bought one of those mounts made specifically for above mantle that lays up flush but let’s you pull it forward and down if you want. I agree with the other comment that the owner could install a mount in an “approved” spot.


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ledow

Drywall being weak as shit and not being structural at all, and liable to rip huge holes in the wall with any weight, and brick being (almost literally) rock solid and easily filled without any lasting effect on the structure of the wall? Sorry, but if you have renters, the house is theirs to live in, and they're not going to balance their TV on an empty box for years on end for fear or making a mark on your precious wall. They're going to use it like anyone would use a house. If you don't like that, don't rent it out. When I left my last rented place, I knocked all the hollow-wall fittings through the drywall in the cavity and then filled the holes with the cheapest filler then painted over. Good luck attaching anything near those holes ever again, especially if it takes weight. Guess where the next tenant is going to hang their stuff? Same place. And yet nobody cared. Because 5 YEARS OF RENT paid for that tiny hole a dozen thousand times over. If there had been brick... you can be sure I'd have used that in preference. Especially because you can just seal up brick far easier. But nobody's going to pontificate about whether they can put a single bracket on the wall when they're paying you literally maybe thousands per month for the privilege of living there. (P.S. I got my full deposit back - because nobody cared. They did a full survey after I left, it was the landlord directly who did it, and it was the landlord I spoke to that whole time and he had my forwarding address etc. He just accepted that after X years of free rent payments, a new carpet here or a small hole in the wall there, or the front door needing painting, was just wear-and-tear.)


Hey_cool_username

This wouldn’t be too bad to remove, patch & paint but only because it was already painted. If it was red brick or some other kind of stone it would always look like crap. A renter should at least ask, even if mounting in drywall. I would be happy to do it for them as I know how to do it correctly but if they hit a pipe or a wire and do a bad job & try to cover it up I wouldn’t be happy about it.


ledow

Brick dust of a similar colour brick mixed with filler. But as you say - in this case they've no chance of hitting anything, did a good job, and it's easy to repair. So there's no need for any fuss over it when they just gave you many thousands of dollars for doing next-to-nothing.


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NightGod

You can definitely patch brick....Moron


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ledow

Don't expect to let people ACTUALLY LIVE in your house for years and expect it to stay pristine. Again - they're not just going to put their TV on an empty box for a decade, or never hang their washing out, or not put a lock on their bedroom door when they get a kid... they're LIVING there. You aren't. To you, it's literally just an asset, and a drill-hole is a pathetic amount of wear and tear. I hope you never rent out, because, fuck, are you in for a shock for what people will do to the property - especially when they find out that you don't give a shit about them.


TuckerCarlsonsOhface

It’s usually not a decorating/design choice, it’s likely the only logical spot to place a tv in the room.


Eternityislong

All suggestions for removing so far are bad, vise grips likely won’t work. The proper way to remove studs is to get 2 nuts and thread them both on there. If you twist the nuts so that they tighten against each other, you will be able to just use a wrench on the nut closer to the wall and unscrew it like it were a bolt. Here’s a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5osC77oseJM I’ve used the 2 nut method countless times, it’s easy and works perfectly. Edit: I’m likely wrong, see people responding to me below. Leaving up for the 2 nut joke and for anyone unfamiliar with stud removal, but these are likely not studs and put in with expanding bolts.


Scott_A_R

That's not a stud; it's probably a wedge anchor. The technique in the video you linked to works because it's threaded in, and you just need a way to turn the stud. With a brick/concrete anchor, there's a good chance that it's a sort where[ when you screw it in, the inside end expands](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=installing+brick+anchor&t=osx&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqSqwB27yrRE&pn=1), holding it in place--unlike the stud in the video, there's no complementary thread to hold it in, so it has to expand instead. If you tried to remove that sort of anchor by the method shown, you'll damage the wall. If it is an expanding bolt, [they can be tough to remove](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNP4lIytqvk).


datsmn

You are correct, those are most definitely wedge anchors, and I've removed them from concrete. The concrete ultimately broke. I'd leave them, cap them, or grind them down.


Eternityislong

Thank you, I haven’t worked on things in brick walls and just assumed it would be similar, so I appreciate you relieving me of my ignorance!


MortarRound

I also use the two nut method all the time. Peak mental clarity.


DeadPxle

Double the clarity. Double the fun!


Noopy9

I doubt they threaded/tapped a hole into the brick it’s probably an anchor. Just clip the excess off and paint it white or try to push it into the wall after clipping it.


Words_Are_Hrad

Lance Armstrong hates this one simple trick!


funkyonion

Shear the bolts off and tap the rest into the hole. Then get creative with some Durham’s fix all.


Drackar39

I've used vicegrips on things like this (and sometimes just channel locks) literally hundreds of times. Generally by the time I need to pull something like this it's too bunged up to get nuts \_on\_ .


somethingwitty42

Those are wedge anchors, if they drilled the initial hole deep enough you might be able to knock them into the hole and patch over.


nopuppies

[https://safeclimbing.org/wedge-bolt-removal](https://safeclimbing.org/wedge-bolt-removal) From a rock climbing perspective, but same methods should work if the hole isn't deep enough to bury it in.


MaxRokatanski

I agree. Those aren't coming out forward without serious brick damage. But I'd cut them flush before banging on them. You may only get a fraction of an inch movement and that way they'll be the under the surface so they can be patched.


Drackar39

You painted it. "looks decent" sailed a long, long, long time ago. For removing the anchors, just use a pair of pliers and twist them out.


FireWireBestWire

TV mounted to fireplace is extremely common. Install a swivel mount, put term in lease stating approval of TV size, weight. And then if they break it, keep the deposit


grawrant

This comment section is full of homeowners and people who rent downvoting them 😂


whodeyalldey1

You should’ve invested in a gallon of paint, a pair of pliers and any type of caulk to fill a hole before becoming a landlord 🙄🙄🙄


xariol

It's painted already. Remove bolts. Use some spackle and a stick or some tool to copy the brick lines. Then more paint. Might need to do a few fills and let it dry to get holes filled in but shouldn't be too difficult.


Cagents1

I’d ask them to give you the tv mount or they will have to pay a damage fee. I’d explain it will be hard to find another one that lines up with the holes they drilled. This way everyone wins.


blakeley

At least find out the model to get a replacement and make them pay for it, otherwise you’ll probably be a broken thing missing parts. 


KithMeImTyson

You really that upset about it? You literally painted your brick fireplace white. If this small of a thing is an issue for you to fix, I'm kind of wondering if you should even be a landlord...


jkingcin

Fill it with some mortar and paint it. Np


that_other_goat

a little dyed fine cement and a fine bristled brush to shape the texture to match then paint over. I guess technically you don't have to dye the cement to match the bricks but my bias leaked through I dislike painted bricks....


RustBeltPGH

If you pull them out and fill them with white toothpaste, the landlord won't know what happened until you get your security deposit back.


Hey_cool_username

Funny story. When I moved into the dorms in college I was grossed out by these specks of crap all over the walls and it took me weeks to figure it out. I hadn’t heard of the toothpaste “fix” for holes before but apparently the person who lived there previously wasn’t clear on the concept either as they had used green gel toothpaste instead of white.


ryyaaaannnnn

Hang some pictures on the screws 🤣


jbmc00

Worst case cut the bolts with a multitool. If you can cut them off tight to the wall and patch over them. If you’ve got the paint color you should be able to make them largely disappear.


sylinen

Hang a painting. Looks like there's already a hook.


PorterBeerMan

If you can’t get them out with vice grips, try cutting with an angle grinder or hacksaw (which could take a while) and patch and paint over them. Good luck!


monioum_JG

Grind it off, but really leaving them & covering them up sounds like the best suggestions here


Fast-Context-3852

Use dremel grind em off flush white caulking paint….. voila


Alarming_Cantaloupe5

If you want to cover it, form caulk over the hole to match the pattern of the brick. Let it dry, and use a razor to get it even closer. Hit it with some paint. Could do the same with spray foam. Neither are anything other than very low budget, cosmetic ideas.


_unsinkable_sam_

remove / cut off the bolts, putty it and repaint the wall, with the lumpy texture already no one will notice


Merciless_Hobo

Well you could use gaps. But more than likely the next renter will just do it again anyways.


Flu77ershy

Get a real job, then you won't need to worry about what renters do.


cerebud

I used to rent out a little place. Made zero money off it while I did my normal full time job. A lot of landlords are like me. I only did it to keep the property in hopes its value would rise (it did, a little). It really made me lose faith in humanity. So many shitty renters out there to at have zero respect for someone else’s property.


Flu77ershy

Womp womp


SamSlams

Damn straight. Quit being a parasite on society and taking away a basic life necessity from someone. Landlording only exists to suck money from a community and not give anything back.


dinnerthief

I mean there are definitely people who would prefer to rent rather than own. I'm not one of them but not having the responsibility of a house is definitely a benefit for some.


idownvotepunstoo

Caulk and paint, derp.


NTheory39693

After you get them out, fill in with cement, make it look like the surrounding brick, and paint..........make sure you tell the next tenant NOT to put holes in there.


whiteman996

Hang pictures on it


Bmath340

Hang a painting to cover them


Johnny_Clay

You’re on Reddit so “Landlords are evil, you deserve it!”


LintyVonKarmon

Sorry they drilled the bricks and not the mortar. I would charge them for a proper masons repair out of spite.


No_Rain_All_PAIN

Meant to go in not out. Grind the access off, hammer in the remainder ( there will be room as the pull out to set ) fill with DAP concrete filler. Paint to match. Charge renter out the ass.


Drackar39

"Charge renter out the ass" you mean take the small percentage of the security deposit that it will actually take to fix this error, about $50, and return the rest, right?


No_Rain_All_PAIN

Take you're a careless renter.. time, effort, headache are all costs above. This would be a 200.00 minimum repair. Matter of fact I'd hire a handy man just so I wouldn't have to do it, that's my real recommendation on the fix. Attach the 400+ invoice to the security deposit check. They could legally be super Dicks and take them to court for the full cost to relay brick... that's a dumb thing for a renter to do without approval


Drackar39

Nope. I'm a handyman that fixes things like this for private home owners every damn day, that really really really dislikes predatory conmen who over-charge for services.


No_Rain_All_PAIN

Then you should have half a sense to know, seemingly don't, in my region just to have a handyman show up to the door is 200 alone, then 100 for the time and 50 is for disposables. That's right around 400 bucks. Which news flash.. most large scale landlords don't fix thier properties, the charges come from property management companies that also take a cut in the headache... blame the people and cry all you want. That's how the system works bud.


Drackar39

One, why the fuck would I know what "your region" is. In one of the most expensive places in the fucking country, you can get a handyman at your door with a $50 an hour hourly rate. This actual job is less than a $25 fix. I was accounting for an hour minimum. If you're a scumbag with a four hour minimum, that's insanity. This is ten minutes with a pair of channel locks or vice grips, .50c in patching compound, and $1 in paint and primer to fix.


No_Rain_All_PAIN

Very cheap fix, consumables wise, yes. What you're not getting is time and labor. Lol. And I'd love to see you pull out wedge anchors with vice grips lol I really would.


blumpkin_donuts

Angle grinder and a spot of white paint. Hardly worth $25. But hey, slumlords gonna slum.


Drackar39

Anything to steal that security deposit. "Why yes, I did have to do repairs, I charge a thousand dollars an hour" level con artist bullshit in here.


on_the_nightshift

Yeah, a person providing you with a home to rent should definitely repair it at $0/hr labor cost. /s


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on_the_nightshift

LMFAO, I knew it. A leech.


blumpkin_donuts

you must be the life of the party /s


on_the_nightshift

I am, because I'm not a fuckin bum. I actually bring something to society.


Visible_Lie_4339

White concrete easy


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Bloody_Smashing

Agreed on vice grips and wiggling it loose. Also, there's a special place in hell for people that paint natural red brick.


hybriduff

Flush saw blad, or take an appropriate nut drive and knock it off


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SpiltMilkBelly

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Shades228

Tig weld or jb weld a nut on the end and just use a wrench to take them out.


jspurlin03

Or — simpler — jam a couple of nuts against each other and use a wrench to back them out, if they will back out. JB weld is brittle, and tig welding is overkill for this.


starBux_Barista

sludge hammer it back flush with the wall


tnek46

Sludge hammer = hammer made of sludge, or Sludge hammer = hammer made for hammering sludge I am not sure but both seem neat!


Mal-De-Terre

Having watched "Spirited away", I can visualize the sludge hammer.


Jordanjl83

Drill through his wall with larger bolt in retaliation.


Octane38

Get a thor hammer and hammer it back to their side of the wall. Then giggle when you hear their TV fall and them crying.