Hot take:
Frankly I don't really like this style. Like, I've seen brightly colored bubble/blocky tags on buildings, billboards, and train cars for 40 years now. It's not new. It's not developing as an artform.
It's kids who figured out how to doodle and how to spray.
Now show me something new if you think you're "crew" is so good.
What sort of art do you make? I'm always curious about the things that critics make to show the world their creative side and not just the analytical side.
It’s like pretending a Rec league basketball player can’t comment on the talent of NBA players or a specific performance. Most art and movie critics aren’t artists or directors either. If he said he loved this, you likely wouldn’t question what type of “art he makes”. It’s simply a suggestion akin to “Lebron should have passed more” or “the movie was too long”.
His comment was simply a stylistic preference or small critique. I think that’s somewhat of the whole point of art anyway right? Everyone is entitled to their opinion on art, it’s not quantifiable.
You don't need to make art to critique it. People use that excuse a lot to hand wave away critique they don't like. As if people aren't allowed to have an opinion on something unless they dedicate a significant amount of their life to it, which is just a silly notion.
There are street painters who are so good at graffiti that they’ve started making a living off of it. Downtown businesses will hire them to create art for their communities.
My dad worked on railroads hos whole life. He said they didn't mind taggers, as long as they didn't cover up identifying labels on the cars. He worked for private companies, though, not a city transit dept.
I love street art but so sick of letterheads. It just so uninspired and mid. Then i see south american street art and taggers and it so sick. Beautiful mural style depicting the people and culture of the artist.
I'm not going to say this in a beautiful way, but.
Those are "turf tags"
Nothing more than dogs pissing on the wall to mark their presence.
It's ugly, and devalues everything it covers.
"I was here, and i don't care about your stuff"
To say graffiti is not developing as an art form is crazy tbh there are loads of artists that are pushing creativity. However, simple styles and easy-to-read pieces like these are timeless and are generally more appreciated by writers. There is also years of work behind this. There is a lot of pressure when painting trains as you don't want to get caught and sometimes you are quite restricted for space so getting the proportions right is quite difficult. This is great graffiti right here it is beyond figuring out how to doodle and spray
Blegh, im tired of letter heads. Shit so uninspired and boring. Theres only so many variations of ur own letters and hubris i can stand b4 getting bored.
>one entire cart to each
pieces on entire carts are known as "wholecar"
also these aren't tags, they're bombs / throw-ups / burners, etc. [These ones](https://cooltourspain.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NYC-graffiti-tags.jpg) are tags.
I learned on a documentary that their spray paint is different. It’s more like $20/can and has different nozzles. I forget the brand name :( hopefully someone can chime in.
Montana is most likely the brand. It's the most widely used in graffiti. There's also different premium variants in their lineup too, so maybe they were using those. There's tons of caps too. Most graffiti artists use dozens of them.
It adds up very quickly
Similar here. Montana was the most widely used here, but also Ironlak, Molotow, and Krylon. People had their favourite colours from certain brands too. I haven't been involved in the scene in over 15 years now though.
So they probly used montana or molotow those cans are 10-15 bucks sumthim like that but that wasn't a single person that was a crew so 20$ says they pooled a 800 bucks together split between however many names you saw they did this big order so they could get a bulk discount also it's newyork they might have some local hook ups that give them even better bulk pricing then an online store.
5 letters is 1 can, each of those pieces probably took 3 or 4 cans, maybe 5 depending on shading, cans are like $10 2 caps per can fat and thin $1 a piece. $50 a train car, I reckon.
When I was a kid, and pretty into that scene, boosting paint was pretty much part and parcel of graffiti… which is why paint brands like Montana were always behind anti-theft plexiglass, at the stores that carried them.
I'm glad you explained that because I never would have figured out why spray paint is behind anti-theft barriers.
Laundry detergent and razor blades make bo sense either, but I've come to accept it as normal.
Razor blades, as well as the danger aspect, are expensive and small. Easily stolen.
Laundry detergent ….no idea, unless it was something to do with the tide pod craze.
Yes, otherwise they are restricted on colour choice.
There's an 80s documentary about graffiti you can find on YouTube that goes into the whats, whys and wherefores of graffiti.
These are criminals or vandals creating pieces like that.
I was about to say. I do building maintenance in NYC and there is a pretty renowned graffiti artist in the complex I work at who has been commissioned by Madison square garden and a list of other big name companies to spay murals on their buildings and he buys everything he needs especially paint and mixes himself to the desired color he's trying to achieve.
And you’re comparing this work on the subway car to generic graffiti. You’re right, they’re both doing it illegally, fair, but this isn’t just generic tagging, this is actually really well done graffiti art using really good paint that you can’t just steal from a store, it’s often times specialty and available via online purchases only.
I’m sure a lot of generic tagging is done using stolen paint but this is different.
A lot of artists are also supplied w paint by these companies or at least sold it a deeply discounted rate. One full car at retail probably runs about $200-$300
People aren't out stealing cans lmao. You think they just find random pickup trucks full of Molotow Belton in all the exact quantities and colours they're looking for?
We always bought our own paint, even if it ended up costing hundreds.
Fair enough if you're talking about shitty tagging, but this is entirely different. Artists doing stuff like this wouldn't use shit paint from hardware stores, and they would only use cans which colour match exactly, which isn't going to happen if they're just stealing whatever cans they can find.
There was a vid maybe…8 years ago of someone woman confront a guy on the train. He was etching an illustration into the train window. They were telling him to stop. He told them exasperatedly “you think I can afford to put my art in a gallery?” There was some more words exchanged too. But I’ve always wondered about that moment. He believed society owed him some form of public showing. And this was it. He incredulously asked these women “well where should I put my art then??”
I want him to have a place. But the reality is you’re not entitled to one. And if there is one, it’s certainly not here.
this is fascinating. his emotions are valid. he wants his art to be seen *AND* the truth is that the train isn't necessarily the appropriate place for that.
damn Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. i don't wanna face reality, i wanna be upset about things i can't change! /s, mostly
Pen and paper are good places to start, an unlimited space is the internet and more people can see it without vandalizing public property/ private property.
I'm not saying they're a bot, I'm just saying these comments are awful similar
https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1ci0nrq/someone_tagged_this_whole_subway_in_nyc/l263u38/
Their culture is also wildly repressed, and heavily, brutally conformist to its very core. Individualists do not do well in Japan.
There are upsides and downsides everywhere.
Is it the one in new york? There's part of it where it's recording this teen kid and the mother...? Oh and I think it went into how the created this cleaning device for the trains and a lot of their work was immediately destroyed because this new cleaning system
I'm sure it was called Style Wars, its interesting how for many using the trains was the way of their pieces being visible all over NY and not just their neighbourhood.
One of my friends back in the day, was really about that life. So he would go out to write at dusk and would come back till dawn… and I remember him talking about hitting up train yards in New York like “Man that shit can get wild, cuz a lot of the time, the workers would just chill, take their cig breaks and watch you work, but every once in a while they’ll try to murder you with an oversized wrench. 🤷♂️ “
They’d also call the cops too, but that was just what he said, and that stuck with me.
The best investment I ever made when I was into graffiti was an orange reflective vest & hardhat (if appropriate.) You'd be surprised how little people care/notice when they just assume you're "working." 🤣
I had a buddy who owned a cherry picker truck & we'd put on construction gear, put up a few cones, & literally tag bridges in broad daylight. Granted, we had to be moderately quick, but never got busted soo..
They spray painted over the windows, which isn't cool. If there was a window protector, and if they put the regulatory stickers and whatnot over top of the art after it, it would be kinda neat. Then again, I don't understand the narcissistic drive to tag something with your street name.
You might know this, but all the trains in NYC were like this in the late 70s/80s. They brought in new trains in the 90's that made it easy to wash the graffiti off, and the trend basically disappeared overnight. Wasn't worth the time, energy, and risk to "bomb" a train just for it to be cleaned off by the next day. Seen a few of these videos recently but it's more of a callback than resurgence. That train will be clean by tomorrow.
Kids did this back in the day (and today) mostly for the thrill and/or to be known. Some were genuinly talented artists, most were just fucking around.
Came to say this too. The cars are graffiti-proof. It’s more of a fun game now. It’s why you don’t see tagged subway cars throughout the city any more. They just get them to the train yard and wash them off at the end of the day.
So, I kinda thought this was somehow sanctioned by the transit authority (or whoever is in charge of such decisions) just because of the sheer size. But then I saw they painted right over the windows and now I'm unsure. Lol
Not only that but you can’t see the station stop outside the window and trust sometimes the PA announcement and digital display aren’t sufficient to know what stop you’re at
Went to Japan and saw how clean and efficient their train system is and the culture built around maintaining a good public transit and then I see this and think, this is why we can’t have nice things guys.
All the public transit systems in Japan, China, Singapore, S Korea and probably other countries in Asia are first rate, and a century ahead of what the US has. Just to start, most of them don't have exposed tracks anymore.
>They are largely culturally and ethnically homogenous.
Bruh this is BS.
even the metro systems in diverse 3rd world nations like China, Indonesia, Malaysia and even India are still relatively clean and tidy compared to this tasteless grafitti "art" - ridden train.
>traditionally collectivist
Maybe, at least the sense of communal belonging and personal decency is slightly stronger. "Don't be an assh*le if you don't want people to treat you like such" is just a basic rule.
This argument is so tired and shallow that, no matter how repeated, still holds no veracity. Japan does this because they actually respect their public institutions.
You can’t understand how cultural and ethnic homogeneity plays a crucial role in their behavior? Shallow critical thinking.
Sorry to be snarky. But you certainly think you’re smarter than you are.
Edit:
homogeneity plays a massive role in “respect.” (In this instance a well kept subway system)
With everyone being on the same (homogenous) page, things are simplified, such as enforcement of societal norms related to cleanliness/mass compliance.
There’s pros and cons of homogeneity. Not sure why you’d think otherwise.
Could have tagged a mouth at the tunnel entrance, and just one huuuuge long dong across all those cars. Hate to say it, but aside from the skill and dedication to have actually tagged all that much, there isn't that much artistry on display here. Having letters moving left to right in a language that you *read* left to right makes it so the tag is ignorable aside from "ooh pretty colors" and the style has been done to death for nearly half a century now. Swing and a miss.
I really hate it if I can not look out of the window when commuting. Not being able to see where I am puts me into constant stress that I might miss my exit station.
I was in Los Angeles downtown the other day and saw beautiful store fronts covered with hideous graffitis. I was upset for the store owners, and really want to ask the vandals, do they have no love for the city that they live in? How would they feel if someone spray painted their car or their room without permission?
This isn't interesting or original. These are just more boring vandals spraying generic looking crap on public trains. NYC fought a battle against morons that tag trains like this back in the 80s, and won. This is trash and I hope they wash that train with a big smile on their face.
No it's awful, especially on something that is for public use. That's why we have pretty severe punishments for vandals.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Singapore_train_depot_trespass_and_vandalism_case
"someone". whole crew dedicates ~~one entire cart~~ a wholecar to each of their ~~tags~~ bombs.
For real "someone" yeah skill doesn't make night last longer or paint dry faster. That's a group of someone's each taking a car.
Hot take: Frankly I don't really like this style. Like, I've seen brightly colored bubble/blocky tags on buildings, billboards, and train cars for 40 years now. It's not new. It's not developing as an artform. It's kids who figured out how to doodle and how to spray. Now show me something new if you think you're "crew" is so good.
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Not bad. I feel they could’ve used one central carriage for the whole word then Mario theme the rest.
What sort of art do you make? I'm always curious about the things that critics make to show the world their creative side and not just the analytical side.
Can make a super cool "S" using only 12 or 14 lines.
It’s like pretending a Rec league basketball player can’t comment on the talent of NBA players or a specific performance. Most art and movie critics aren’t artists or directors either. If he said he loved this, you likely wouldn’t question what type of “art he makes”. It’s simply a suggestion akin to “Lebron should have passed more” or “the movie was too long”. His comment was simply a stylistic preference or small critique. I think that’s somewhat of the whole point of art anyway right? Everyone is entitled to their opinion on art, it’s not quantifiable.
You don't need to make art to critique it. People use that excuse a lot to hand wave away critique they don't like. As if people aren't allowed to have an opinion on something unless they dedicate a significant amount of their life to it, which is just a silly notion.
While I might be against tagging (no matter what, it's still costing taxpayer money), I have to respect the actual art and style of that.
Yeah they at least integrated their design with the car features and had a vision.
There are street painters who are so good at graffiti that they’ve started making a living off of it. Downtown businesses will hire them to create art for their communities.
My dad worked on railroads hos whole life. He said they didn't mind taggers, as long as they didn't cover up identifying labels on the cars. He worked for private companies, though, not a city transit dept.
I love street art but so sick of letterheads. It just so uninspired and mid. Then i see south american street art and taggers and it so sick. Beautiful mural style depicting the people and culture of the artist.
I bet they can't even make the amazing 3D S! You know the one I'm talking about.
I'm not going to say this in a beautiful way, but. Those are "turf tags" Nothing more than dogs pissing on the wall to mark their presence. It's ugly, and devalues everything it covers. "I was here, and i don't care about your stuff"
To say graffiti is not developing as an art form is crazy tbh there are loads of artists that are pushing creativity. However, simple styles and easy-to-read pieces like these are timeless and are generally more appreciated by writers. There is also years of work behind this. There is a lot of pressure when painting trains as you don't want to get caught and sometimes you are quite restricted for space so getting the proportions right is quite difficult. This is great graffiti right here it is beyond figuring out how to doodle and spray
It's the Michael Bay/Nicolas Sparks of street art. It's the Thomas Kinkade of street art. But hey, people like Thomas Kinkade and Nicolas Sparks.
You absolutely cannot tell me transformers 2008 was a bad movie.
Blegh, im tired of letter heads. Shit so uninspired and boring. Theres only so many variations of ur own letters and hubris i can stand b4 getting bored.
>one entire cart to each pieces on entire carts are known as "wholecar" also these aren't tags, they're bombs / throw-ups / burners, etc. [These ones](https://cooltourspain.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/NYC-graffiti-tags.jpg) are tags.
Thank you. I didn’t know those terms, but I know in the world of graffiti anyone with a paint pen can toss up a tag, and that aint a “tag”
Not a single throw-up in this video. Get your terminology right dude.
$$$$ someone had a good spray paint budget
My exact thoughts lol
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I learned on a documentary that their spray paint is different. It’s more like $20/can and has different nozzles. I forget the brand name :( hopefully someone can chime in.
Montana ?
Yeah, I think you’re right, but I was way off on price then. Maybe it’s $10/can
Montana is most likely the brand. It's the most widely used in graffiti. There's also different premium variants in their lineup too, so maybe they were using those. There's tons of caps too. Most graffiti artists use dozens of them. It adds up very quickly
Montana, Moltow, and Ironlak where the 3 big ones I remembered from about 10 years ago.
Similar here. Montana was the most widely used here, but also Ironlak, Molotow, and Krylon. People had their favourite colours from certain brands too. I haven't been involved in the scene in over 15 years now though.
So they probly used montana or molotow those cans are 10-15 bucks sumthim like that but that wasn't a single person that was a crew so 20$ says they pooled a 800 bucks together split between however many names you saw they did this big order so they could get a bulk discount also it's newyork they might have some local hook ups that give them even better bulk pricing then an online store.
We used to buy rustoleum and then better caps off the internet
lol yep rusto fats all day
5 letters is 1 can, each of those pieces probably took 3 or 4 cans, maybe 5 depending on shading, cans are like $10 2 caps per can fat and thin $1 a piece. $50 a train car, I reckon.
Bulk rates https://shop.bombingscience.com/graffiti-paint/bulk/bulk-pricing
The answer is hundreds to thousands of dollars
When I was a kid, and pretty into that scene, boosting paint was pretty much part and parcel of graffiti… which is why paint brands like Montana were always behind anti-theft plexiglass, at the stores that carried them.
I'm glad you explained that because I never would have figured out why spray paint is behind anti-theft barriers. Laundry detergent and razor blades make bo sense either, but I've come to accept it as normal.
Razor blades, as well as the danger aspect, are expensive and small. Easily stolen. Laundry detergent ….no idea, unless it was something to do with the tide pod craze.
Easily resold, everyone uses it, and shelf stable forever basically
lol. You think people doing these pieces pay for paint?
Yes, otherwise they are restricted on colour choice. There's an 80s documentary about graffiti you can find on YouTube that goes into the whats, whys and wherefores of graffiti. These are criminals or vandals creating pieces like that.
I was about to say. I do building maintenance in NYC and there is a pretty renowned graffiti artist in the complex I work at who has been commissioned by Madison square garden and a list of other big name companies to spay murals on their buildings and he buys everything he needs especially paint and mixes himself to the desired color he's trying to achieve.
You’re comparing someone who does legit art to people who are out tagging in the streets… I bet a lot of it is stolen
And you’re comparing this work on the subway car to generic graffiti. You’re right, they’re both doing it illegally, fair, but this isn’t just generic tagging, this is actually really well done graffiti art using really good paint that you can’t just steal from a store, it’s often times specialty and available via online purchases only. I’m sure a lot of generic tagging is done using stolen paint but this is different.
A lot of artists are also supplied w paint by these companies or at least sold it a deeply discounted rate. One full car at retail probably runs about $200-$300
You don't think they have or do both?
What's your definition of art?
People aren't out stealing cans lmao. You think they just find random pickup trucks full of Molotow Belton in all the exact quantities and colours they're looking for? We always bought our own paint, even if it ended up costing hundreds. Fair enough if you're talking about shitty tagging, but this is entirely different. Artists doing stuff like this wouldn't use shit paint from hardware stores, and they would only use cans which colour match exactly, which isn't going to happen if they're just stealing whatever cans they can find.
The documentary is named style wars
They're only criminals because it's illegal (I know that sounds really dumb)
There was a vid maybe…8 years ago of someone woman confront a guy on the train. He was etching an illustration into the train window. They were telling him to stop. He told them exasperatedly “you think I can afford to put my art in a gallery?” There was some more words exchanged too. But I’ve always wondered about that moment. He believed society owed him some form of public showing. And this was it. He incredulously asked these women “well where should I put my art then??” I want him to have a place. But the reality is you’re not entitled to one. And if there is one, it’s certainly not here.
this is fascinating. his emotions are valid. he wants his art to be seen *AND* the truth is that the train isn't necessarily the appropriate place for that. damn Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. i don't wanna face reality, i wanna be upset about things i can't change! /s, mostly
Pen and paper are good places to start, an unlimited space is the internet and more people can see it without vandalizing public property/ private property.
I agree, I’m all for artistic showcases but not when it damages public property and ends up raising local taxes to clean it up.
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I'm not saying they're a bot, I'm just saying these comments are awful similar https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1ci0nrq/someone_tagged_this_whole_subway_in_nyc/l263u38/
Their culture is also wildly repressed, and heavily, brutally conformist to its very core. Individualists do not do well in Japan. There are upsides and downsides everywhere.
Is it the one in new york? There's part of it where it's recording this teen kid and the mother...? Oh and I think it went into how the created this cleaning device for the trains and a lot of their work was immediately destroyed because this new cleaning system
I'm sure it was called Style Wars, its interesting how for many using the trains was the way of their pieces being visible all over NY and not just their neighbourhood.
It’s called “racking”.
When i was active we never paid for paint.
ALL YOU SEE IS ... CRIME IN THE CITY
***"The new moon rode high in the crown of the metropolis."***
"Shining, like who on top of this? People was tussiling, arguing and bustling Gangsters of Gotham hardcore hustling"
That song gives me goosebumps every time. Their descriptions and lyricism are great
Escuchala, la ciudad respirando..
It just took up the whole car?
It just took up the whole car!
“People was tusslin', arguing and bustlin' Gangstas of Gotham hardcore hustlin!”
Aahhh! Dope as hell. With the cop and baton! Dude! Yes haha im so happy graff is still alive. Such an underground sport haha
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Man, one of the few movies before my time that I just love to watch.
Did you know it's based on a Greek story? A group of Athenians trying to get home from the Peloponnesian war
What were they doing in New York?
It's an epic tale. Quite the odyssey they went on
I did not know that
Yeah the place of the narrator in the original saga is taken by the radio host!
Such a great movie.
Big fan of the warriors , PS2 game, recently bought it on my PS5 as well. Love to know there are other fans still around.
Same here! I played it on Xbox, recently got it for ps5, one of my favorite games and movies
Immediately what I thought of when I saw this post, came to the comments just to see if anyone thought the same haha.
That’s some next level dedication, surveillance, and planning
gotta wonder if taggers take jobs like Subway workers..
One of my friends back in the day, was really about that life. So he would go out to write at dusk and would come back till dawn… and I remember him talking about hitting up train yards in New York like “Man that shit can get wild, cuz a lot of the time, the workers would just chill, take their cig breaks and watch you work, but every once in a while they’ll try to murder you with an oversized wrench. 🤷♂️ “ They’d also call the cops too, but that was just what he said, and that stuck with me.
The best investment I ever made when I was into graffiti was an orange reflective vest & hardhat (if appropriate.) You'd be surprised how little people care/notice when they just assume you're "working." 🤣 I had a buddy who owned a cherry picker truck & we'd put on construction gear, put up a few cones, & literally tag bridges in broad daylight. Granted, we had to be moderately quick, but never got busted soo..
A lot of them will rock vests and a helmet to look official while painting subways.
Excuse me they’re called Sandwich Artists
Great joke
At least one of these people was on a trust fund.
Yeah I’d imagine this was done in a yard? How long would it have taken? They probably just were moving this to clean it, never was in circulation
Welcome back to 1980. The last time they put 2 million people in jail.
Time to invest in new jails.
Bro…google the U.S. penal system
Holy prison industrial complex!
1982 called & wants their train back.
1982-1990
Warriors…come out and play!
i wonder if Spits is going to tag over it....
Beatstreet baby
Man I wore that rental tape out lol.
Oshit
That’s a train not a subway that was tagged.
Thanks for clarifying. I thought the walls were moving.
Came here to say that. Thanks
They spray painted over the windows, which isn't cool. If there was a window protector, and if they put the regulatory stickers and whatnot over top of the art after it, it would be kinda neat. Then again, I don't understand the narcissistic drive to tag something with your street name.
You might know this, but all the trains in NYC were like this in the late 70s/80s. They brought in new trains in the 90's that made it easy to wash the graffiti off, and the trend basically disappeared overnight. Wasn't worth the time, energy, and risk to "bomb" a train just for it to be cleaned off by the next day. Seen a few of these videos recently but it's more of a callback than resurgence. That train will be clean by tomorrow. Kids did this back in the day (and today) mostly for the thrill and/or to be known. Some were genuinly talented artists, most were just fucking around.
Came to say this too. The cars are graffiti-proof. It’s more of a fun game now. It’s why you don’t see tagged subway cars throughout the city any more. They just get them to the train yard and wash them off at the end of the day.
Turk 182
Tyler Knew!
Zimmerman Flew!
So glad I'm not the only person on Reddit who's seen that. It took forever for it to be added to streaming.
Is it Owk from MTL?
Yes
So, I kinda thought this was somehow sanctioned by the transit authority (or whoever is in charge of such decisions) just because of the sheer size. But then I saw they painted right over the windows and now I'm unsure. Lol
That’s got to be claustrophobic inside with the windows basically blacked out
Lol. Are you going to miss the view of being encased in a tunnel?
Sometimes you want to see what station you’re at…. Especially when you can’t hear the announcements
Lol. But sometimes the M does run on that line 🤔
Not only that but you can’t see the station stop outside the window and trust sometimes the PA announcement and digital display aren’t sufficient to know what stop you’re at
Subways are pretty dark between stations usually.
Went to Japan and saw how clean and efficient their train system is and the culture built around maintaining a good public transit and then I see this and think, this is why we can’t have nice things guys.
Difference it's getting to the point where public things are "our things* instead of " not my stuff, so I don't care"...
why certain neighborhoods are littered with trash
All the public transit systems in Japan, China, Singapore, S Korea and probably other countries in Asia are first rate, and a century ahead of what the US has. Just to start, most of them don't have exposed tracks anymore.
They are largely culturally and ethnically homogenous. And traditionally collectivist. I appreciate their society. But we have different struggles.
>They are largely culturally and ethnically homogenous. Bruh this is BS. even the metro systems in diverse 3rd world nations like China, Indonesia, Malaysia and even India are still relatively clean and tidy compared to this tasteless grafitti "art" - ridden train. >traditionally collectivist Maybe, at least the sense of communal belonging and personal decency is slightly stronger. "Don't be an assh*le if you don't want people to treat you like such" is just a basic rule.
Our struggles are moronic. At least over in Japan, they are orderly and respectful (more so than most).
This argument is so tired and shallow that, no matter how repeated, still holds no veracity. Japan does this because they actually respect their public institutions.
You can’t understand how cultural and ethnic homogeneity plays a crucial role in their behavior? Shallow critical thinking. Sorry to be snarky. But you certainly think you’re smarter than you are. Edit: homogeneity plays a massive role in “respect.” (In this instance a well kept subway system) With everyone being on the same (homogenous) page, things are simplified, such as enforcement of societal norms related to cleanliness/mass compliance. There’s pros and cons of homogeneity. Not sure why you’d think otherwise.
…and the you see the train system in India and say to yourself “Meh, could be worse”
Looks like shit for the amount of work it took..
Could have tagged a mouth at the tunnel entrance, and just one huuuuge long dong across all those cars. Hate to say it, but aside from the skill and dedication to have actually tagged all that much, there isn't that much artistry on display here. Having letters moving left to right in a language that you *read* left to right makes it so the tag is ignorable aside from "ooh pretty colors" and the style has been done to death for nearly half a century now. Swing and a miss.
I really hate it if I can not look out of the window when commuting. Not being able to see where I am puts me into constant stress that I might miss my exit station.
Spray artists come to NYC from Europe to do this shit. A couple of them got mashed by a train on the tracks a few years ago.
Artists? You mean vandals. This looks like shit.
Damn that’s a lot of paint
Just like in the 70s - 80s!
History repeats itself. NYC needs another Giuliani.
This looks like shit. If your going to paint a train, make it looks good instead of blacking out the windows with your shitty name tags
Yay vandalism
That’s not a tag homie
thats sucks. The assholes who do this never have to bear the consequences the tax payer ultimately has to.
*vandalized
Egotistical children that need other people to see their cappy art.
That would take forever to clean off, as a maintenance worker, I’d be pissed and probably quit.
Yep, how to turn something also artistic to complete garbage, do your graffiti works on allowed walls, and let people appreciate your skills..
Sorry, but stupid tags are not artistic.
OMER YOKA BOSS OSHIT OWK ROKKO I think.
lol why shoot vertically for something like this
Thats so bad :( its not the 1980's anymore
Vandalism.
I was in Los Angeles downtown the other day and saw beautiful store fronts covered with hideous graffitis. I was upset for the store owners, and really want to ask the vandals, do they have no love for the city that they live in? How would they feel if someone spray painted their car or their room without permission?
Horrible. I would force them to pay for restoration.
Why don't we have nice cities like Europe or Japan. This right here. No one has respect for public spaces
Didnt see one tag on the subway
And it's just boring-ass bubble words. The most boring kind of graffiti.
Assholes belong in prison. They spoil the world for the rest of society.
OP, you did it, din’t ya?
[meanwhile Berlin](https://youtu.be/-BLbo5MhQNQ?si=LvbtkHU-9FCe4XD3)
"All you see is... crime in the city."
"oshit"
I like it and hate it at the same time. But kinda like it more than the drab silver
Same, but wish they left the windows alone
Yeah they apparently don't give a shit anymore there.
80s back
Waste of time
While I don't agree with it over the windows it's pretty cool. Better than being plastered with advertising
I’m at an age now where I realise how stupid this actually is. Not to mention a huge drain on resources.
Welcome back to the '80s
Idk about you guys but that doesent seem like a tag to me
That's not a tag. That's a straight-up mural.
Graffiti vandals suck.
It's like a dog pissing on a pole to mark their territories.
That sucks. They need to think about the people riding, you can't see out of the windows
Oh good, more “art”. Cretins.
This isn't interesting or original. These are just more boring vandals spraying generic looking crap on public trains. NYC fought a battle against morons that tag trains like this back in the 80s, and won. This is trash and I hope they wash that train with a big smile on their face.
I commute every day by train and I the fuck the cunts who ruin stuff like this, You can't see shit from the inside thanks to this shit 'Art
ugly
The despised art of vandalism!
And the destruction of public property.
Why is the "good" graffiti always some boring word art and never anything really interesting or worthy of artistic merit?
Looks like shit. We have this in Bucharest and you can't even look on the windows to see what station coming next bcs of the paint
Ew
Man they didn’t even do something interesting
Not interesting. Actually a crime. Why can't we have nice things?
Looks like shit
Keep it classy New York lol
This is sad
Looks like shit.
Subway car
How do these guys decide on what gibberish to paint on things that don't belong to them?
looks like shit
No it's awful, especially on something that is for public use. That's why we have pretty severe punishments for vandals. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Singapore_train_depot_trespass_and_vandalism_case
That’s a pretty penny in spray cans :p per car
wow the degradation of civilized society is amazing!
Hopefully they all got arrested for destroying property. I don’t pay taxes to have my transportation services be destroyed