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Sivianes

The worst thing in Spain is the behavior between ourselves.


QuixBit

It is true everywhere in the world 🌎 


Great-Ass

Yeah because everywhere in the world we are constantly jumping at each other's necks, it's like a country that can't stand the other half of itself


bo_felden

Yup, rotten and bitter people out of some unknown reason.


MurderedbySquirrels

The British


marbotty

That’s also the worst part of UK


Far-Construction8826

😂👍 Esoecially those living here for 20 years without bothering to learn the language… Hashtag….. BritishAreTheEuropeanAnericans


whodafadha

Says the American 😂


MurderedbySquirrels

Yep. It was honestly a joke. Most British people here are lovely. Though Americans don't have the same penchant for leaping off balconies.


casperno

I.e thinning the herd.


Cleon_girl

The average salary vs high cost of living nowadays


Friday-lover-90

I live in Madrid and completely agree with you.


Memes_Haram

Yeah I was shocked at how minimum wage in Spain is less than half of what it is in England but prices at the supermarket for most goods are either about the same or higher in Spain!


northyj0e

Hombre, €8.26 is not less than half of £11.44.


Subject-Effect4537

Dog poop on the sidewalks. Ever-looming drought concerns.


mountainof_frogs

This one


Existing_Brick_25

It depends on where you live. I lived in a small town for a while and it was boring as hell and people were very closed minded. Now that I live in Madrid the worst part is that it’s too crowded, I find that many people are selfish and rude, especially while driving. I also think salaries are too low for most jobs given the housing prices.


rex-ac

I gotta add though that service-wise Spain is a paradise for introverts. You can live in the middle of nowhere, in a town of 50 people and 200 cows, and still enjoy fiber internet and 5G. Your house can be very rural for the outside, but modern from the inside with high tech solar panels, gaming corner, A/Cs and so on. We have country-wide 24 hour shipping, so you can order amazing Spanish food, have it delivered, and have a BBQ for with dogs. Later you have a movie night using your 85" inch TV and your delivered cinema popcorn. It's boring, but civilization is often only 1-1.5 hrs away. You can always decide to go clubbing, shopping or whatnot, and then drive back the same day.


Existing_Brick_25

For sure. There are many wonderful things in Spain. I just listed the worst ones. I wouldn’t really want to live elsewhere at the moment though 😄


Confident-Play6222

trust me you dont want to live in the UK


rabihwaked

Innit!


acid-burn2k3

Yeah boring is the right word, Spain is boring after a while. But I also think it’s a good thing. I lived in Belgium where nothing was boring, everything was fast, rainy and nervous. Sometimes I just chill thinking that being bored is a luxury theses days


Low-Watercress2171

Could you tell me more about food delivery?


EpoTheSpaniard

Despite several issues that we have, I think Spain is a great place to live at.


Ezheer

I live in the suburbs of Madrid (Las Rosas) and while the fiber is great, the phone coverage not so much. My 50 GB mobile data plan is wasted on me...


Active_Ring

As someone from Berlin, I consider people in Madrid super friendly and enjoyable.


Existing_Brick_25

I lived in Berlin for 6 months (during winter) and I have to say you’re right 😅


Puzzleheaded_Claim49

I'm sorry to agree, but I found Berlin to be the least enjoyable city I've ever visited. Hopefully things there will change!


Artislife61

Why? If you don’t mind. Was it the people or the vibe of the city, the way it was laid out?


BANGER125

i have no idea why but I see lots of people hating on Berlin especially on reddit


Diggdydog

Having lived in Madrid for a grand total of 2 days - I've found the complete opposite true! I'm amazed how peaceful different corners of the city are (especially the parks) and how friendly people are. I'm not very confident in Spanish yet so no big conversations, but a few people have tried to strike up a conversation and are very polite about taking seats on the metro / benches. Guess it depends what your benchmark is, I lived in London for 10 years prior


Existing_Brick_25

Yes, I agree it depends a lot on your previous experiences. I live outside of the city in an area that is upper-middle class, and I find that such people here are very entitled and tend to think they’re better than the rest. You also find plenty of people who dress in a certain way to show that they have money (and many times they don’t even have that much, they just pretend they do).


heffeque

Small towns with close minded people, big cities that are too crowded, low salaries compared to housing... yes that only happens in Spain. Nowhere else.


rancid24e

The ridiculously low salaries are kind of a distinctly Spanish thing.


LovelehInnit

... if you disregard 90% of the world that has it much worse.


Far-Construction8826

True indeed with the salaries, almost have to be an expat with your home country salary taken into account to have a northern European cost of Living/salary ratio.


oliverosjc

The worst thing, for me, is the feeling that we Spaniards are always at odds with each other. We are still suffering the consequences of a civil war and a dictatorship that instilled in everyone that whoever thought differently from you was an enemy. This has been passed on to later generations, even in democracy, with consequences such as the fact that we often prefer to harm ourselves as a country rather than support a political proposal from "the others". Thus, laws that are objectively good for the citizenry are not passed just because our politicians are incapable of reaching agreements. The result: we are a very rich country but very poorly managed.


Nisiom

[The two Spains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_two_Spains)


Suitable-Ad2831

Thank you for this explanation. Very enlightening. I hadn't realised that Franco's legacy is still so present.


Sutanz

It's sadly present but not because there are many supporters, the "falangist" party doesn't even get enough votes to get political representation, they are very very residual. The confrontation is present because the left uses it for their political benefit since they know the great majority of Spaniards are pro democracy. So it's not like it's a real issue but an interested political one


LudicrousMoon

It is not l, but it is a nice thing to use and amplify and turn people to each other. Spanish far right is a joke compared to any other right movements in Europe but then everyone call with others fascista while this is one of the most socially progressive countries I have ever known. Civil rights, free access to healthcare, meds, immigrations, etc etc and yet half of the population calls the other half fascists. So lack of self awareness, ambition and critical spirit is what makes this country a shithole in terms of buying power.


Oksorbet8188

so much smoking. especially by young people. despite knowing how bad it is for you it is shocking to me to see so many people chain smoking. I know it happens in other countries as well but I see it here more.


Fanny08850

I find France WAY worse in that aspect.


MM_Jairon

Bullfighting


Quick_Excitement_811

This!


GuyFromYarnham

Tardiness. Yeah, living in Spain means knowing and accepting some people are always going to run late even in professional settings. That being said, I hate it when people simply don't even try to be punctual and keep people waiting for 7,10,15 or even +20 minutes for no good reason. Being late with an "Oopsie" should cut it when it's like, give or take five minutes, but it totally shouldn't when you're wasting people's time just because you couldn't be bothered to be even a bit foresighted.


Suitable-Ad2831

20 minutes?? Erm ... 15 mins is my waiting limit, but try 2 hours in some parts of the world ... lol


Round_Cry3963

I think that's your experience. I'm a Spanish woman living in Ireland and I can't bear with the lack of punctuality here. Even shops are normally opened 5/10 later than they should. 


apeaky_blinder

Salmorejo and pan con tomate are not mandatory to be served in every bar everywhere


Dela_Baruch

Hot tenperatures


CaesarTulio

I can survive 40° in Colombia, 40° in Spain... let me tell you...


ColorIsSubjective

bureaucracy


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tortilla de patatas from the supermarket


e-type6110

No te metas con mi tortilla del Mercadona >:(


alonghealingjourney

Overall, Spanish people are nice, the food is great, and the communities are kind. But…tourists who pee on our streets, xenophobia/racism, and rising cost of housing (gentrification) are all bad. But, compared to America, these are much more minor.


diamondskull2000

The tardiness, the always dirty public bathrooms, and really loud talking people ;)


BriquetteDeLait

Finally seeing that, to me the worst is how people are unaware of what's around them and that they're not the center of the world. TikTok, talking (loud) on the phone, YouTube... In public transport, full volume. In a restaurant you can't talk without screaming if you have some Spanish group of people close. And all that could follow.


Ok-Network-1669

Hmm as an spaniard.. I like manners, and think that they are very important. The problem is that a lot of us are very.. lets say cuddly? we hug, we kiss, we jump on top of each other... and we shout, the thing is that when you grow surrounded by shouts, they dont bother u. I have 3 siblings, i've always seen people talking and shouting around me, so it doesnt disturb me. babies fell asleep surrounded by shouting pple if u they get use to it xD


Guillermidas

Sounds like you went to a tourist south location


Erlkonig24

There are no public bathrooms.


Proof-Puzzled

There are, on the coast at least.


Bayfordino

There absolutely are public bathrooms.


msondo

high unemployment, corruption, crippling economics, toxic work cultures, property crimes, okupas, Telecinco


Phat_Irish

Toxic work cultures certainly do happen in the United States…


colako

okupas and everything is just Telecinco and Antena3 fearmongering.


Fulk0

Pues yo llevo con una familia okupa dos años viviendo debajo mía y nos hacen la vida imposible a todo el bloque. Se enganchan a la luz con empalmes que pueden provocar incendios, hacen ruido y pegan gritos por la noche, dejan la basura varios días fuera de la puerta, los niños pintan las paredes de las zonas comunes, aparcan en las plazas privadas de otros vecinos, han amenazado a varios vecinos que han llamado a la policía... El problema con los okupas es real. Espero que nunca te toque vivirlo de cerca.


Maleficent-Ad2924

Es real pero muy poco común. Nos venden que ocurre muy amenudo, y es mentira.


Somewhereovertherai

Importa una mierda lo poco que ocurra, la realidad es que los homicidios no son muy frecuentes en España, y aún así tenemos normativas y prevenciones. El estado debería intentar arreglar el problema cuanto antes.


galium_the_master

El problema, sin embargo, no radica en las personas que ocupan un piso vacío porque no tienen dónde vivir, si no en las políticas que permiten la especulación con la vivienda, de forma que hay miles y miles de pisos vacíos porque no hay nada que pare a los arrendadores de subir los precios, por lo que nadie se puede permitir uno, habiendo una gran cantidad de gente sin hogar, y de hogares sin gente. Recomiendo encarecidamente leer este artículo: [https://ctxt.es/es/20230101/Politica/41681/okupacion-allanamiento-usurpacion-viviendas-vacias.htm#analytics-buscador:listado](https://ctxt.es/es/20230101/Politica/41681/okupacion-allanamiento-usurpacion-viviendas-vacias.htm#analytics-buscador:listado)


AbbreviationsGold703

You missed low salaries. Also a lot of scams happening here and there.


dandelionmakemesmile

Telecinco is the answer. I'm still waiting for the day that supervivientes ends.


apeaky_blinder

What is telecinco?


Proof-Puzzled

A private TV Channel in Spain, also on Italy i think, pretty much entirely dedicated to sensationalism, political propaganda, and celebrity and gossip press, in other words: a hot piece of shit.


ginosesto100

Fox News eh


dandelionmakemesmile

It's trash tv, essentially. Kind of unbearable. 😂


Fanny08850

Yo mispelled Telecinco. It's actually Telecirco 😅


Chupachupstho

Okupa?


Working-Active

I would say lack of any permanent jobs are the biggest problem. It seems that most jobs are for 1 year and then they go hire someone else instead of paying for a proper work contract. On top of that you need 38 years of work to get a full retirement which will probably never happen for a lot of people.


cjvuggivk

Politicians


New_Independent_5960

A lot of people are very rude and out for themselves first, especially on the roads.


elmandamanda8

The noise


Wylker24

Many people are rude but really depends on where you live.


sans_vanilla

This is probably a very mundane observation, but I find that people walking in the street rarely get out of your way in the big cities. Some people seem to go out of their way to get in your way when exiting or entering buildings on the street. Not a huge deal, but I noticed it especially here in Barcelona.


Fluid_Initiative_822

I experienced the exact same thing in Barcelona! I felt myself having to move out of the way too often.


SavageHippy_369

Renting places and getting fucked over by landlords thats all they do


Strive2Achieve1

I live in Castelldefels (near Barcelona) and I absolutely love it. My Spanish doesn’t allow me to have a full on conversation with locals, but vast majority of population here speaks perfect English and also we have a list of foreigners here. What I dislike is how the transportation system works. It takes 1,5 hours to go to Universitat (center of Barcelona) by bus, come on. Just make a shuttle that goes from castell to Barcelona. I had those in the Netherlands and in Russia.


MitruxLovesMusic

that teenagers that think they cool asf but not even theyre mother thinks that


danishih

They're so bland


cheeto20013

Bureaucracy, housing, salaries, healthcare is quite good but it can take quite some time to get an appointment.


Rubs0054

Our president, Telecinco, Big Brother, extreme right and left parties, low wages, graft, city planning, drunk English bachelors, beach littering...


Fanny08850

The littering is everywhere. Not only a beach problem 😞


Rubs0054

I know! But our beaches here in the Canary Islands tend to be littered on a daily basis


lyfeandlemonade

The dirty bathrooms everywhere in public and in restaurants.


iMagik975

People are starting to get in your fucking house while your asleep or while your traveling, happened to me while on a trip and I was fk 2500km away. Thank god the neighbors scared the shit out of them and they ran but right now criminality is increasing so freaking fast that you can’t even sleep no more. They get in your house and live there, if you call the police and tell them what happened they don’t do shit because of shitty gov rules. So yea, basically you pay your rent, house, mortgage or whatever it is for literally nothing, they get in your house and you can’t do shit about it, police won’t do shit. It’s disgusting. Today I placed cameras and signs „video vigilance“, so let’s see when they try it again. I changed the door completely for a new one. It’s a headache. I’m not a racist or something, im myself Arab, but man, stupid immigrants, gtfo of Europe if your ruining it. I’m not against immigrants and shit like that but man, every single person that does this type of bullshit should get their ass dropped again into their continent and never ever touch EU again. It’s harsh what im telling, but if you pay mortgage worth of 300k€+ and even more you will get what im telling. Btw, fun fact, im morrocan and the people that tried to steal, or live in there or whatever, are also Moroccans. Disgusting to see your own people do shit like this. Instead to work, get up, Naaah they steal shit, do criminal things, fking nasty ppl man. Hopefully no one here experiences this, cus, after 1 time, you will live with stress and anxiety. Imagine you have kids, cus people around here experienced it with their kids in there. Traumatizing for them, imagine your 4-6 and you experience shit like this. Failed society. Take care people and be careful out there. These mfkers carry guns, knifes etc… who knows. see ya


Probablyapsycho97

Fascists and people who miss the times when Spain was a dictatorship


CapyBaraLord75

Probably wont affect you as an individual but what disgusts me the most about my country is the shitty bull torturing "culture" we have here. I'm glad it's prohibited in certain regions


Bloxocubes

The top-heavy government institutions that make doing anything official like living in a Kafka book. Other than that it's paradise


MaryamII777

The Germans in Palma


DogEnthusiast3000

Bureaucracy.


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The people from UK


LargeButterscotch294

Generally, Spain has had the worst problem in the housing prices, a problem affecting 70-80% of population (big and middle cities and some extense areas around it). The other variable of the problem is salaries in Spain are very low on average. That is your number 1 worst thing here.


redd1t-n00b

People smoking next to you and your kids without even asking if you mind.


Fanny08850

The same applies to all of Europe.


Low_Bandicoot6844

Bulls are tortured.


Ok-Run2845

Too much sun.


Towsend

Right wing politicians.


geLeante

As some Brit said, is full of Spaniards lol Jokes aside, housing, unemployment, drought...


Educational-Object67

The government is trying to issue a 30-day digital access card to porn websites.


CelticTigersBalls

Porn is just the cover, and it is really an online ID to take away the ability to be anonymous online.


Visual_Traveler

The vast majority of people are already not anonymous online, even if they (we) think otherwise.


CelticTigersBalls

Yes, im aware, but this takes away even more freedom.


David-J

Too many smokers everywhere. It's like they've never heard of second hand smoking.


Thaemir

Tourists jumping from balconies because they are super drunk. Tourists complaining that there are "too many natives" in the country they went to vacation.


humanlvl1

Don't let the few bad tourists paint the picture. It's an infuriating sentiment, but I'd be surprised if as much as 1% of tourists said that.


SKabanov

>Tourists complaining that there are "too many natives" in the country they went to vacation. That was a rage-bait story that was [extremely misleading](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1czhqbt/comment/l5gtztt/).


Thaemir

Then I change my answer to "British and German settlers who come to Spain to live but refuse to learn a single word of Spanish after 10 years". Or better yet, going somewhere and not being attended in any of the Spanish languages because the service is 100% English or German. That's a wonderful situation too!


Successful-Roof5912

Never heard a tourist complaining about „too many natives“. Sorry but I think that’s purely made up


PhilosopherSalty8458

This is one news story with a misleading headline.


Riusds

Politicians


Maleficent_Lab1841

Dementors


Strict-Programmer657

Nothing.. It's boring


PinneappleGirl

Noise


K3dare

The retirement system that is doomed to fail.


alexx8b

Low salaries for the majority non-specialize Jobs.


Rudo__

We are the worst thing in spain. Hands down.


LinguisticsIsAwesome

1. Littering. My friend will be driving, eat a candy in her car, and then crack the window and nonchalantly toss the wrapper out the window on the freeway. 2. Pressure to dress up. I have a mother figure here who, without fail, gives me SHIT for not wearing makeup, not wearing cute clothes, and/or wearing my hair in a casual ponytail. She says “well we need to get you a husband”. No, we don’t. 3. Machismo moms and grandmas who baby all the young men and men in their families. 4. They seem to not know how great their country is. This comes as a detriment when they put other nationalities on a pedestal Caveat: Of COURSE all these things happen elsewhere, but they are marked differences that I have noticed, juxtaposing what I’ve personally experienced in life vs. what I’ve seen here


ComfortableAd7397

El reggaeton y los ritmos latinos. Seriously, is a pain.


Mahochido

Noise.


Miserable_Research82

America is not a country and the US Map doesn't represent the entire world. Said that I consider the worst spanish quality to be very loud and disrespectful in public areas


flabmeister

Brits


1chicken2nuggets

Overcooked tortilla de patatas con cebolla.


northyj0e

I can't believe no one has mentioned the fact that men *never* local the door behind them when they go for a piss, and that many men's toilets don't have a lock for this reason. Absolutely insane.


GecaZ

Spain


rbopq

Gentrification, lost of identity of the cities


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Vox


Huge-Insect6925

Insane taxes just to do your job (autonomos) I make around 1000€/month I pay 300€/month regardless of how much I made Every 3 months another 21% of all my income


Bigardo

No, you don't. 300€ are contributions, not taxes. You don't pay taxes on such a low income. That 21% is also not your money, you're invoicing extra to cover for VAT and then returning it to the state. How can you be an autónomo for three years (because you are paying the whole contribution fee) and not know that?


TheStockInsider

It’s a Reddit thing


colako

That 21% is not yours, you're collecting IVA for the state. Don't make the mistake of believing it's your money. You're welcome. How much would health insurance and retirement saving fund would cost you if you had to pay them to a private company?


nando585858

Same amounts if you earn 100k/month. Maybe your problem is the kind of work you do. Of course,there are other taxes, but they are progressive


_ibisu_

By no means an exhaustive list: - The monarchy - Housing crisis - Low salaries - Gentrification and loss of culture - Droughts and forest fires - Hunting culture - How people treat animals (it’s all very legal) - The Far right - The lukewarm left - The military police - The way we treat immigrants and refugees - No safety net - Collapse of the public health system - Privatisation of everything that is a human right - Erasure of plurality of cultures - The fact that we still have occupied territories (Canarias, Ceuta, Melilla…) - Our bloody ass history … Telecinco


KannyDay88

I'm a German living in the UK. Most if not all of these sound like problems we have in Germany and the UK. I genuinely wonder how these problems across the western world are going to be fixed... I'm worries and excites (in a challenge kind of way) at the same time!


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hangezzoe

tourism and fascism, next question


Nornigold

The food is far too wholesome if your used to an American diet full of shit 😜😂


abeorch

Parella eaten in the evening. - War crimes /s


Necessary_Reality_50

Why though.


Peturba

Taxes for freelancers are not proportional to earnings and thus becaming one is too risky. Salaries are too low and have not been keeping up with the cost of living. Rent is very high compared to salary due to speculation, despite being plentiful. Others have pointed work culture, I think work culture in USA is way worse, except maybe in restaurant bussines. Also okupas are a non-issue overblown by media.


lpfratini

The worthless Okupas and red tape


Adaftremarkmademjoin

Many things but at the moment I'd go with vacational apartments. It really needs to be regulated. Everyone wants the big buck, but because of it, almost everywhere in the country it's impossible to find affordable flats. And I'm not gonna blame just the tourists, expats and similar but obviously also the landlords and, above all, the government, that I won't do a thing, even if they pretend they do...


Miembro1

Madrid has the most friendly people in EU


meurett

Gentrification and if you're in the south the terrible heat


Capital_Inspector_21

Noise, mainly because of thin walls and basic windows.


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blackatomblast

Tourists


vulkany

Shoplifting around the hot places.


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pomelo-mauve

The racist fools like you are worse


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ChristianDeTristan

Spanish Inquisition


Apprehensive-Bid1791

Say that América is a country


canIplshaveauser

Me as a Spanish I can tell you it's or the xenophobes or the climate


Anonymous-probe

Bring me a bike rack mode please


LupineChemist

The ability of two grandmothers who can barely move to occupy a whole 3m sidewalk and not let anyone past. Also just general obliviousness to everything going on around. Yes, it's a thing everywhere but Spain takes it to the next level.


mountainof_frogs

This 💀


GrasseBort1

Turists.


Realistic_Maximum401

Health care is a disaster


pomelo-mauve

Work culture is abysmal


Tabby1534

La Linea de la concepción. It’s the scummiest part of spain. Right next to gibraltar too which is nice at least. But the people here are downright disgusting and rude


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Aizpunr

Goverment.


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mountainof_frogs

Pickpocketing!!! I’ve been scrolling for a while and I don’t see anything about it. I had 4 phones stolen from me while in Spain (at some point I figure it’s my fault), but it happens to Spaniards too. All the time. It’s not even the cost of the phone that’s the most annoying part, it’s replacing everything that was in it and reconnecting everything. Massive pain.


AtticWall

Maybe people completely disagree but if you work in an office the working hours are crazy. Finishing at 18h30 Monday - Thursday all for 2 extra hours off on a friday, where you have to work through lunch to get them. Give me 9-5 everyday anytime. I also dislike the time culture for dinner, bedtime, etc compared to how other countries do it.


Dolmetscher1987

Spaniards. They ruined Spain!


NecessaryWide8872

Mosquitos


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Moist_Relief2753

Is it worse than Florida?


LudicrousMoon

Low salary, expensive housing, summer too warm, worst leaders ever,


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SnooDogs2112

Where I live, the fact that I won't be able to leave my mom's house until I am, at least, 30. I don't make enough money to live on my own and save money while doing so. The rent here is absolutely ridiculous.


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