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takecaretakecare

The country was like half IT nerds pre invasion; strong warhammer community over there!


A1dini

Yeah I was beside myself when I learned about their khorne unit But tbh it doesn't seem so funny now - stuff like this really makes you realise that they're just normal people with normal interests that have found themselves in a surreal and terrible situation


VX_GAS_ATTACK

That's equally true for military infantry. Turns out they like the war games.


weetchex

[troof](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/63a0hw/the_hardest_game_of_40k_ever_played_southeast_of/)


VX_GAS_ATTACK

That's the one


atioch

And making the best of it. I mean I think it's great.


fallenbird039

Oh yea sounds about right. Lots of slavic nations are full with nerds like that lol.


UnicornMagic

That’s because the Slavs are spiritually autistic.


fallenbird039

Can confirm slavic and a bit autistic


R3AL1Z3

“Bit”


fallenbird039

Yes! I play plastic toy soldiers ie warhammer. Not my proudest buy


aisens

This must be the 'weaponized autism' I keep reading about.


DasBarenJager

TIL I am Slavic


Aurelio23

But why don’t they use the heraldry of one of the *heroic* factions, like uh… um… hmm…


persepolisrising79

because the russian salt is much saltier that way


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Chrisjfhelep

So Ukraine's War is just The siege of Vraks in real life? Man I can not wait for the titans being deployed.


caputuscrepitus

All hail the MIC-hanicus


Lucyferiusz

They are fighting against fascist Empe... Tzar, so chaos is the obvious choice.


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Kire_asylum

The Valknut is *much* older than nazis, and is not a clear indication that someone is a white supremacist. It is a legit norse-pagan symbol.


CloanZRage

It also specifically states this on the Wikipedia page too. "nonracist pagans may also use this symbol, so one should carefully examine it in context rather than assume that a particular use of the symbol is racist."


paireon

And given that Kyivan Rus, the first legitimate state in East Slavic lands (guess what city was its capital), was founded by Varagian Vikings, the association is legitimate too. Here's what the ADL's hate symbols database has to say about it: >The Valknot or "knot of the slain" is an old Norse symbol that often represented the afterlife in carvings and designs. It is often considered a symbol of the Norse god Odin. Some white supremacists, particularly racist Odinists, have appropriated the Valknot to use as a racist symbol. Often they use it as a sign that they are willing to give their life to Odin, generally in battle. ***Non-racist pagans may also use this symbol, so one should carefully examine it in context rather than assume that a particular use of the symbol is racist.*** https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/valknot


TheGrandArtificer

Minor issue: Kyiv was taken by the Varagians, not actually founded by them. It was founded by the Eastern Polans, (not to be confused with the Poles of Poland) about 200+ years before.


Oettl

In this context…is it a Nordic volunteer unit or is this all for the purpose public innernet viewing?


bwb501

That's the problem with symbols, they can be co-opted. The obvious example is the swastika, used by a bunch of religions and people across Eurasia, but it's now tied to the nazi party of the 20th century.


Crazy_Dave0418

The swastika is also a very old buddhist symbol but the nazis made it what it is now.


DWR2k3

Actually, they took the hakenkreutz. Which is the same basic shape, but in an ordinal, not cardinal, orientation. And it's honestly probably a really old Indo-European symbol, usually tied to the sun and strength, it has uses in Hinduism and Jain as well as Buddhism.


jeanjeanmcguffin

Svatiska is also older than nazism, however if i see a flag with a svatiska on it i'ill assume that the owner is a nazi not a buddhist or a jainist.


Luk164

Nazis also used the iron cross, yet it is still used by german army. Yes swastika got the worst deal because it was the primary symbol of the regime - but that is a bit too extreme case when compared to this


Kriss3d

Its been used in old norse carvings and paintings and such. So its a bit confusing what its actually meaning in this context.


BdobtheBob

Thats equivalent to saying someone using a pepe meme is a nazi. Or hell, driving a Volkswagen Beetle. Just because nazis used it, dont mean everyone who does is a nazi.


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They have a unit called khorne and I believe immaterium.


assasin1598

There was even video of ukrainian commander being interviewed and he starts talking how much he likes warhammer


Taargon-of-Taargonia

It's the same in Russia. I remember the glorious medieval 2 total war mod for warhammer fantasy was totally made in Russia


cosmic_hierophant

It's won't go fast, it's not red


TheLamenter

UA group called "Khorne", they dropping some compilations of drone strikes and the like. Lucky they ain't Slaaneshi.


Livstraedrir

if I'm not mistaken the Ukrainian unit using the Khorne symbol is actually called "Immaterium". That's waht they call themselves at least.


TheLamenter

Could be, but always saw their videos posted under "Khorne" so was going based of that.


Livstraedrir

Yea, I've just did some very quick search, and there is both, using both the Khorne logo.Maybe two different groups from the same unit, or one is part of the other I dunno.


TheLamenter

Could be two different warbands


Livstraedrir

maybe, the dark gods works in mysterious ways


durz47

Or they could just be the alpha legion


Flashskar

It's both. The UAV Strike Company is called Immaterium and uses a symbol of Khorne. On Telegram they are called KhorneImmaterium or something similar. Both are technically correct.


logosloki

For those not familiar with 40k lore The Immaterium is more commonly known as The Warp, which is where Chaos (the spiritual and physical embodiment of emotions) exists. Khorne is one of the gods of Chaos, representing Conflict, War, Slaughter, Justice, and Honour. Khorne cares not how it happens, they wish for blood to be spilt in their name.If you see people posting in all caps BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD and SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE they are referencing Khorne, who will send warhounds to favoured champions that will collect the skulls of enemies slain in the name of Khorne to add to the throne.


boundone

Dude you're in grimdank, not NCD, no need to explain, lol. Common mistake it seems, these days.


zanotam

Khorne has had no positive side since he split clearly from how WHFB version in the early 90s.


paulisaac

Unless the context is Minecraft, where BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD was somehow co-opted by the late Technoblade, in reference to his PvP skills and ruthlessness. Third party sources hold him to be either servant to the Blood God (who is usually NOT Khorne for some reason) or is the Blood God himself.


Corni_20

AND MILK FOR THE KHORNFAKES


Kriss3d

As long as they fuck up the russian troops Im good with that.


HumanTimmy

I've seen a video of a Ukrainian drone dropping a dildo on a Russian position so I wouldn't put it out of the question


Lazypole

Those drone vids are gnarly. I’ll never forget watching that Russian guy drowning in the river while bleeding out. Like, don’t get me wrong fuck Russia, but holy shit that video was grim. It’s been a weird conflict to watch. I also watched a Russian die via drone whilst giving his comrade a blowie. I don’t think a weirder war has existed since the War of the Bucket in 1325.


Darth_Mak

Out of all the Chaos gods Khorne seems like the worst choice of mascot for a drone operator unit.


alpharius26

I can't tell which side the jeep is on so Ukraine are getting aid from khorne Russia are getting so desperate they are turning to the ruinous powers


kredokathariko

The jeep is Ukrainian. The people in the video speak Russian and they talk about it being the work of "Ukrops" (Russian slur for Ukrainians)


nopingmywayout

So there’s enough 40k Ukrainian fans to start a Khornate unit, and there’s enough 40k Russian fans to recognize the insignia.


kredokathariko

Warhammer 40k is very popular in the former USSR, so this was bound to happen.


AnotherOpponent

Makes sense. The Imperium is basically the Soviet Union. And they have the same strategy of just throwing bodies at the problem.


U_L_Uus

Actually it's more of a mix. It gets an absolutist state with an ideology like Thatcher's but cranked up to eleven (adding the fascist element of the Father of the Nation, again cranked up to eleven) and from there added an organization of the state similar to both the CCCP (the state owns everything, everyone is but a cogwheel in the machine, ...) and fascist states (political police etc etc, which funnily enough later on the CCCP would adopt) with precise elements here and there. An organization in charge of upkeeping the state religion as is the Inquisition (basically the Catholic Church in fascist regimes), leaders that don't give a shit about their subordinates and rule purely through fear and propaganda as are most of the higher-ups in the AM (with literal portmanteaus like the Commissars), enhanced super-soldiers which aren't but fleshy, killing machines as are the Astartes (this is more of the nazi "no, meth isn't affecting me in the least, why do you ask" playbook), ...


LightOfTheFarStar

Literally just every authoritarian regime mixed up in a parody.


thenwah

\^ This. Then there's the layers parodying freemarket capitalism and among rogue traders and hive-lords, etc. It's one big mirror.


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The state owning everything (including the lives of the citizens) is fascism 101. As Mussolini said: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state"


Steff_164

See this is why I want to start a guard army and use the Red Army as my color scheme


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Vostroyans?


rogue-wolf

Valhallans would be better.


VilleKivinen

Vostroyans for the Tšar era, valhalla for the soviet times.


perasia1

I'd love to do a guard v guard battle with the opposing sides being White Army Vostroyans, and Red Army Valhallans


First_Aid_23

The Imperium was supposed to be basically all totalitarian governments, IIRC. For context, /r/Askhistorians has a few pages on the topic - But the USSR didn't generally just "throw bodies at the problem" as commonly depicted in media in WW2. The "Asiatic Hordes" narrative was Nazi propaganda and the USSR had a population of 170 million, 1/6th of whom were killed in the war. For context, the US had a population of 145-150 million during the War. It's a larger number but certainly not enough to simply win with human wave offensives of half-equipped folks.


Kestralisk

Bruh, the Imperium overall is clearly mostly satirizing the Nazis and other fascists. The Guard though absolutely have USSR vibes lol


AnotherOpponent

See, people say that and I absolutely agree they have huge fascist ideals and take stuff from fascist countries from history and even today. But I don't think they are directly 1 to 1 going for Nazis like people say. They go for a lot of fucked up ideals from history. From religious radicals and holy wars to the Soviet style industry and bodies over everything else to the Gestapo and SS motifs of the inquisition. I even see a lot of ultra nationalistic patriotism that a lot of countries show when dealing with "others". Nazi Germany had a lot, if not all of these ideals but so did a ton of other countries. The Imperium is fucked up and absolutely terrible but I don't fully agree when people say "They are *just* space Nazis".


adeon

The Imperium is basically every shitty human regime crammed into a single faction.


thenwah

Nail on the head with the "shitty" component. You can find every stripe of humanity in the Imperium, under the banner of a regime that combines all our worst elements: it's rampant and unwieldy dehumanising bureaucracy carried out by a totalitarian state religion rooted firmly in xenophobic dogma that permits unregulated frontier capitalism and brutal political dynasties so long as someone's paying the tithe to prop up its state-owned military industrial complex. That's us in a nutshell.


Not_a_gay_communist

Commisar seems more Soviet inspired tbh. Political officers overseeing military operations was a major part of the USSR


Kestralisk

I think the guard are very WWII in general, but would agree they have more Soviet vibes than anything else. The rest of the Imperium though is much more fashy


Enchelion

Different flavors of Guard satirize different wars. Like the Catechans are just Rambo 2+. The trenches, terrible logistics, and nobility vs commoner stuff is all WW1 parody straight out of Blackadder Goes Forth (and both 40k and Blackadder have their Flashman-expies).


Lokky

To be fair the guard has so many regiments that just about every flavor of army from has been represented by now. You can find WWI, WWII, vietnam, hell you can even find Attila's raiders.


Kestralisk

True, it does make them a fun faction to collect I'm sure (provided you hate financial stability)


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Same with nazi Germany. They had political officers (of the SS) overseeing and meddling in Wehrmacht operations, especially later in the war.


TheLamenter

There is Russian "Anime squad" so ya know im waiting for furies squad


lucifer_666_satan

Space wolves?


Undead_archer

Soldiers tend to like warhammer https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/63a0hw/the_hardest_game_of_40k_ever_played_southeast_of/?rdt=55833


LexanderX

Note also the Game of Thrones House Bolton symbol on [this Azov Brigade soldier.](https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/2019-03-18T092544Z_1138065230_RC1B09676640_RTRMADP_3_UKRAINE-ELECTION-WAR-1-scaled-e1582552649485.jpg) So at least one of them is into fantasy.


Sea_Cup_5561

I actually don't think Russian guy recognizes it. He just says what it's "like Mad Max" He also says something like "Eh oocrops (Russian slur for Ukrainian people), fucking fascists"


alpharius26

Ah okay thank you for this information.


AnAlpacaIsJudgingYou

Khorne pledges 15 Bloodthirsters to Ukraine


alpharius26

Russian soldier: khorne please help us Khorne: now fam they seem cooler


farlos75

Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, only that it does.


PineappleMelonTree

There's a UA group that often posts drone footage with the Korne logo.


TheDuckMarauder

I hope this gets more likes than the post


alpharius26

What do you mean it looked like it caused a comment war


Skidoo_machine

Its for Ford HD truck.


jyguy

It’s a Ford Superduty pickup


HamsterIV

Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, only that it flows.


alpharius26

Indeed


I_might_be_weasel

There is a Khorne themed Ukrainian unit.


ajrhodes1126

So… Ukraine has a lot of units of with 40K names All over. It’s became a commonality for them this war. There are ALOT of examples. Khorne unit, immaterium, barbarus, bloodthrister, bloodletter, skarbrand, ALOT of khorne shit. A recon unit called jakhals there’s waaaaaay more


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Khorne cares not from where the blood flows only that it flows


Vizth

So the Norse gods are a part of chaos now?


Gamezfan

In old Fantasy, yes. Khorne was the Odin figure of the Norscans, with a valkyrie and everything.


Dacreepboi

of course a british company would make the vikings chaos related smh


georgiaraisef

Overthinking things I think


BurningQuestionLmao

They're called Khorne Group. Notorious for strapping anti tank warheads onto FPV suicide drones and demolishing Russian artillery


TheDuckMarauder

Wonderful


Trogor359

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!! VICTORY TO UKRAINE!!!!


manywayer

MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!!


There-Is-Only-MP40

#BUTTER FOR THE POPKHORNE


not-the-rcmp

There is an actual Ukrainian Army company called “Khorne Company” and their insignia is Khornate insignia


xx_swegshrek_xx

Non crediable defense


Paxton-176

I had to double check which sub I was on. This is peek r/noncredibledefense


Lazypole

Theres so much cross contamination these days it’s awesome.


CrashKaiju

Credible?


Volkov_The_Tank

**BOLTED DOWN AND READY**


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IT STILL RUNS


xyannick3

Nothing to see just khorne group larping


Easy-Musician7186

That's the military aid from the UK


[deleted]

No that’s a repurposed civilian vehicle most likely donated to the UAF, and I mean donated, as a bunch of svus and utes have been donated to or were crowd funded for Ukraine both domestically and abroad. They’ve primarily been using them for logistical or transport roles in less contested areas although have on occasion used them for quick raids when heavier vehicles were unavailable or would have proved impractical. There’s a video somewhere in r/Ukraine or r/Ukrainianconflict of I think a national guard unit using one to mount an automatic grenade launcher to reposition it so that they could drop a case of grenades on a moskovite position using the power of math.


Easy-Musician7186

Buddy…i mean the chaos insignia, since Games Workshop is from England


paulisaac

I keep forgetting which sub is the one filled with vatnik shills. Probably neither of those.


MyWorldTalkRadio

I put Khorne on a truck, BERSERKER Do you want to get blown up? BERSERKER


TK-366

IS THIS REAL!!!! WTF 😂


TheDuckMarauder

Yep


Nerdfatha

The Ukrainians also call the Russians Orks, so this seems appropriate.


ObtainableSpatula

pretty sad tbh, Orks just want a skrap and are always ready to fight, while most russian soldiers are forced to fight


fludblud

Considering most Orks are gretchin forced to be used as cannon fodder or literal ammunition, the designation checks out.


Luk164

The vehicles check ou as well, barely working outdated scrap heaps on wheels with random shit welded on


3k3n8r4nd

That’s more to do with LotR than 40k. They see themselves as Gondor stopping the orcish hordes.


Celtic_Fox_

Gonna single-handedly do to Warhammer symbology what alt-right turds did to the Punisher symbol.


LumBearJack1

Pretty sure I saw a couple of pics of Russian tanks with an Imperial Aquila decal months ago


kredokathariko

There is a Russian nationalist organisation that uses a slightly modified aquila as its symbol. Google "коалиция небо охлобыстин".


TheSilverHat

Given the current state of Russia it's not surprising


Luk164

I am torn between the Russians are orks and Russians are the imperials. Their vehicles say orcs but their tactics say imperium and Prigozhin heresy is just too funny to pass up


LumBearJack1

Holy shit the Prigozhin Heresy lmfao


TheCuriousFan

The Khorne unit are really taking their LARP to the next level by claiming skulls for the skull throne.


[deleted]

Hanz, are we the baddies?


Wafflingcreature

Next thing you know, Ukrainian’s going teleport strike terminators into Russian trenches


EnergyHumble3613

Are the Khornates Ukrainian?


TheDuckMarauder

Yep, but this video is of a vehicle captured by the Russians.


Tostadora_Revenant

Кров за Бога крові! Черепа для Черепного Трону!


bartlesnid_von_goon

When life gives you ~~lemons~~ orks, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!


Ur_Girl_Suki

ahhh hell nah. Ukraine getting the Heresy Update!


Muted-Tonight5694

Just old Slavic tradition…kill each other


wdb108

Imagine you're a Russian grunt and suddenly you're attacked by a bunch of frenzied Uktainians shouting "Blood for the Blood God!!!"


SirBruhThe7th

That's why the Ukrainians are doing so well in the war, they have been blessed by Khorne.


Gibbit420

Those 3 triangles is consider a far right nazi sign by the Defamation league. https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/valknot


Dacreepboi

can i just say how much i hate nazis for stealing norse symbols?


Gibbit420

Same here man.


TheDuckMarauder

Good to know man 👍


bookhead714

What? The military guys who plastered iconography of the most villainous faction in a franchise with a right-leaning fanbase are fascist? Say it ain’t so.


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TauMan942

FYI I've seen sigils of Khorne and Chaos on Russian equipment too. Guess Warhammer 40K is popular in Eastern Europe.


LordGlompus

Chaos Technical


TheDuckMarauder

No, it's chaos Bubba


FLAL201

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD


SomeHalfPolishDude

Guardsmen…fix bayonets!!!


Rowbot_Girlyman

What's the symbol on the back door?


QuentinVance

It's a pagan/nazi symbol used by the russian nazis of the Rusich battalion led by war criminals Yan Petrovsky (recently arrested in Finland or Sweden) and Aleksey Milchakov.


Rowbot_Girlyman

I thought I had them clocked. Is this a Ukrainian vehicle or captured russian?


QuentinVance

I'm unsure but I'd say Ukrainian vehicle, captured by russians. The guy film says something like "(these are / this is the work of) Ukrainian fascists", and specifically calls them "Ukrop" which is a russian slang/slur for Ukrainians. Plus, the Khorne logo is on stamped on the plates placed under the bars, while the Rusich logo was spray painted over the entire thing (so after the armor was added). So I think it's Ukrainian captured by the russians.


chriscb229

I don't know about yall, but I think the armor strapped onto the truck would be put to better use on someone's torso.


TheDuckMarauder

Ukrainian Bubba


King-Cobra-668

40k has always been very popular in Ukraine and Russia


PYROxSYCO

Those plates remind me of the body armor from AliExpress....


TheDuckMarauder

Yeah, it's body armor jury rigged to make an armored truck. Because you can Bubba anything if you have enough plates.


velexi125

Same thing we did in Iraq when we didn’t have armor. You adapt


TheDuckMarauder

Improvise adapt over come.- The whole human race


Tostadora_Revenant

Кров для Бога крові!


SG1EmberWolf

Nerds are at war


dream208

A chaos unit fighting against invading Nazi dictatorship hell-bent on restoring their ”former glory”, sounds about right.


8KoopaLoopa8

Wars are getting weird lol


mikemystery

Oh, look! Chaos symbol! Cool! Haha! Knorne! Blood for the blood god! Haha, what’s that other one…a valknut…oh…dear


Qontherecord

the three interlocking triangles is an old germanic symbol often used by neo-nazis because it's not as well known and they can't just straight up wear swastikas.


CptAwesome36

Grand father Putin will suffer


Wise-Profile4256

This is so yesterday. Latest Nurgle DLC just dropped with 8 cases of Anthrax in Ruzzia.


Gwynnbeidd

There were Bubonic Plague cases in Virginia iirc just a couple years ago. Nurgle loves us all equally.


Omeggon

Russians get ground support from James Workshop's lawyers.


Negative_Chemical697

That triangle thing is often used by nazis


QuentinVance

Yeah, it appears the jeep belonged to the Khorne Battalion but has been captured by the russians


Betadzen

Zelenski's heresy, lmao.


magnolia_unfurling

whoa! weird to have niche heads-up on why a combatant is using specific iconography \[heraldry?\]. Fiction inspires people, it can give them strength. I hope I don't end up in a position where I feel like it is necessary to channel Khorne \[or anything from 40k for that matter!!\]. Ukraine vs Russia, it is non belligerent vs belligerent. the underdog, Ukraine, has my support. Ukraine is being invaded by a country that has less freedom than they do, I will support Ukraine because their victory means more freedom for both countries in the long term. Putin is a merchant of jingoism, not a merchant of prosperity. he is throwing young russian men into a meat grinder. he must be stopped.


IsolatedHammer

That’s heresy.


MrMetastable

Tzeentch must’ve been involved with that whole Wagner group coup/mutiny earlier


Domino31299

Khorne liked the blood they spill


ENDER2702

yes,hello? Inquisition? yeah it's happening again


[deleted]

Praying to the only gods who will listen for aid against an unjust totalitarian power…. I feel like ive heard this before


DIRGEOFSLANNESH

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!


fludblud

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YEEAAOSwH4xjN4ZI/s-l1600.jpg Theres a unit of British volunteers called the Dark Angels too.


Super-Soyuz

i thought this was r/NCD given the chest plate scale armor ​ so many layers


the_old_captain

Sanest and least radical Ukrainian soldier's equipment


AileniJones

For the hot-rodders out there, the new saying is, "Build Ford tough with Ukrainian stuff." Go Blue OVAL!!!


pajunk11

I've also seen Khorns symbol on some bombardment recordings


Grand-Sprinkles-2737

That's one incuisterster


Bonavire

Ngl if I went to war and the enemy vehicles were emblazoned with Khornate symbols I'd shit myself harder than I already had


Futuroptimist

This is what not getting MRAPS do to a MF. Jokes aside, after watching the russian specops turning about 20-30 Ukrainians into a colander because they were driving around in civilian cars… this seems to be a reasonable upgrade.


[deleted]

Vatniks are orks


kredokathariko

Funnily enough the actual Russian Orks player I know is pretty firmly anti-Putin and anti-war. A very good friend of mine, honestly having him around did wonders keeping me sane after 2022. When you live in a dictatorship where speaking out of turn can get you fined or imprisoned, having a circle of friends you can trust is very important. And my Warhammer group is that circle. One of the few places where I can talk freely and honestly about the war and what is happening in general.


nopingmywayout

I’ve seen a couple of Western fans joke that 40k is popular in Russia because they already live in the Imperium. :( Stay safe out there, friend.


Round_Celebration_90

Oh come on. Don't insult orks. Orks are more civilised.


Fifteen_inches

Oof, that white supremacy logo though