Compile the list of names:
Dusan Vlahovic
Bruno G
Isak
Edit:
Gyokeres
Zubimendi
Sesko
If we assume we contacted all of those players, my personal preferences would be Bruno G, Vlahovic, Zubimendi.
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Did our medical team ever get out the jungle and complete medical for [Everton Soares](https://onefootball.com/en/news/report-arsenal-send-medical-team-to-brazil-for-everton-soares-26349319)?
I've wondered for a while if he would be good for us. I like him a lot, but he seems to be out of form at the moment, and not sure if he can step up. I'm not an expert at all, but I'd like him for the right price.
I'm still good on Vlahovic - there are elements to a deal there. There is, surprisingly, only 2 years left on his contract, Juve in a bit of the Allegri mire. I think he adds something we don't have in a attack, and I think he would improve under Arteta.
I actually think he would free
Not sure I trust the Pacho link. Dude is left footed. One of Gabriel or Kiwior would probably need to go to accommodate, meanwhile we still wouldn’t have a direct backup to Saliba.
I think he could be a perfect left back for Arteta’s system. We could then have Pacho, Gabriel, Kiwior and Zinchenko for the left sided positions.
Sailba, White, Timber and Tomiyasu for the right sided positions.
Pacho has never played LB, he’s decent on the ball but the profile is too similar to Kiwior. Unlike his countryman Hincapié. The latter has actually played LB for club and country.
Arteta’s first choice for LB was Lisandro Martinez before he went Utd and he mostly played CB at Ajax, Timber and White mostly played at CB before joining us, even Tomiyasu has played a lot at CB for Japan and Bologna.
Gvardiol never played at LB before joining City. So I don’t think these mangers want typical overlapping full backs as they want the wingers right on the touchline.
Hincapié would be very interesting but I’ve never seen him linked to us, maybe the asking price would be too high ? Leverkusen are gonna try keep most of that squad together for at least 1 more year now that Alonso is staying
No doubt worth 80m if we can do that. Probably elevates us more than the strikers we’re linked to outside the world class bracket (which I don’t really think are available anyway)
Prime age, takes load off of rice’s legs, no hiccups in ball playing, all around 8. Can’t ask for anything else. Solve the midfield problem and move on. He’s one of the best in the league
It would be so funny if we raided PIVcastle for Bruno and Isak in the same window. I'd get to listen to Shearer have a fucking meltdown on the Rest is Football
I'd love that one. He's always running his mouth about something. The worst part is, most of Alan Shearer's points are usually absolute crap. It's people like him that make me believe I could've been a football pundit had I been a decent footballer.
There definitely are but we’re too close to the top to cheap out and we’re spending big money anyway. If he is the perfect option, he will end up worth it I guess because he is very low risk
Plus, we’ve seen over and over and over again that until we actually see them do it, we have no idea how most players will adjust to the Premier League. We already know he can so that’s very much worth the premium.
I have seen Edu always placing value for players and letting them go when they are higher than that... For me bruno is not a player who puts in 80m shifts... Does a lot of potential yellow card fouls but flies under the radar... Unsure it will always be the case...
Same logic would have got us Bruno 2-3 years ago, and then Paqueta an year or two ago.
I don't like that we wait on pretty much certain quality beauties like these two, but I guess better late than never, if Arteta can break his sunk cost fallacy with Havertz for the 8.
Still don’t know why we didn’t get him for 25m three seasons ago in January. Think we would have clinched CL that season until Bruno single handedly bossed our midfield.
I reckon a lot of players who joined Newcastle did so with clauses for UCL qualification in their contracts. Now they’re realising how hard it’s going to be for Newcastle to consistently crack the top 4, they all wanna jump ship to the traditional big 6 clubs.
Shit, I was just trying a bad joke—a play on the old "oh it must be ST renewal season", when links start to surface before the summer window.
But yeah, if Newcastle need to sell their best talent for FFP, or they have secret CL release clauses, I'm all for it.
This conspiracy theory has always been so weird to me.
Like, do people think that the Arsenal board ever looked at each other since the move to the Emirates and gone "Wow, we might really struggle to sell some tickets this year"?
It’s obviously a meme from people who don’t know how long the season ticket waiting list is. They don’t realise that if everyone who has one didn’t renew they would still sell all those tickets very easily
I don't believe in the conspiracy theory for obvious reasons but it's not that simple. A low renewal rate will have a large impact on negotiations for anything related to match day.
When we lose: Interesting how transfer stories have come out to distract us.
When we win: Interesting how transfer stories have come out now we're back in the race.
If comes to us, he's the best cunt in the world. If he stays at Newcastle, he's the worst cunt in the Premier League. Were he goes determines how we view him.
Would be a solid addition. Capable of playing with Declan and allowing Declan to rest. I still think another CM is needed as i would let Partey & Jorginho go but
ST, Winger (capable of playing both flanks) and a Top quality Midfielder. Thats the window that makes us Champs (hopefully defending ones)
Idk much about how our u21 team usually sets up but I think it's telling that timber played lb. Think it's where mikel sees him in our team as opposed to a rb/rcb filling in at lb.
With Timber’s return it is no longer a priority. Best defense in Europe without him this season, including Zinny and Tomi out a lot to boot. That is incredible.
Kiwior can improve, but has done a solid job considering he’s third choice for his position.
If they all are fully fit through the summer (big if) money is better spent elsewhere.
I'd be tempted to try and loan Sambi again tbh - his contract is up in 2026 so we don't have to sell him if there's little to no offers for him this summer
Another loan would leave him with a year left on his contract which would completely weaken our negotiation stance. We absolutely have to sell him in the summer if we want to make any money from him.
I think we could get a fair few offers for him, he's proven he can compete in the PL so I'm sure a bottom half team would be willing to pay around the 20 million mark.
Think 10 to 15 million is a reasonable range, probably closer to 10 though. Has played well enough for Luton but hasn’t done anything extraordinary, and never succeeded here. Maybe a lower half team wants to take a punt, but if not we should loan again.
He’s got quality in him, but hasn’t really produced much so far.
That, 5-10 million for Reiss, maybe 20 for Partey, 15 ish for Nketiah, 25 for Ramsdale and that’ll probably be our window.
Agree with what you say on Lokonga, but 5-10 for Reiss is criminal. And we will not be wanting to sell Partey unless there are some permanent fitness/injury issues (which could be the case).
People forget about how much he improves how we play, and it is hard to imagine given he has barely featured this season, but if he were to get fully fit it is totally conceivable he will be a key player for us next season.
Partey’s one of our best players I agree, but he’s perma crocked. I can’t imagine who pays much more for Nelson at this stage, at this point he’s a 24 year old who’s never played regular football.
I dunno if we will tbh. He had a fair few injuries this season. Don't think we'll get near that valuation.
Heck we all thought last summer we'd sell KT for a cert for like 30m or so and nothing happened there. I dunno what will happen with Sambi just yet
I would probably suggest KTs injury problems were far more well known which is why we couldn't get much for him, but possibly you're right, we will just have to wait and see what happens in the summer.
But I think we're far likelier to get a better fee off the back of a decent season, rather than a fee in 2025 when he's only got a year left.
He's been very in and out of that Luton team due to injury. I don't think he'll get a valuation we'll be happy to sell him with just yet.
If possible a 1 year extension and another loan would be perfect
He’s done an average job at a relegation threatened side. No bottom half clubs will want to spend 20 million on him. Even if we sell this summer rather than next, we may have to accept selling at a loss. A loan may be the best we can get now.
Sometimes they just don’t work out.
If it's not 20 mill we should be getting whatever we can. I just don't see how selling him with a year left on his contract is better than selling with 2 years left on his contract. We have to get out of this cycle of loaning players that we don't want and letting them leave for nothing after they run their contracts down.
Agree. We just have to eat it on some of these that don’t pan out (and then put up with idiots that will say it means Edu is awful with his business at Arsenal)
And they all have to go, Jorginho i think is a last resort to leave but these players either arent up to the level (the lokongas and Nunos on the world) or cannot be trusted for one reason or another (the parteys & zinchenkos)
I dont think arsenal fans realise how much of a clear out is coming. We are looking at a minimum 10 man gone
Changing too many players, especially in midfield, is never smart. Changes in the starting eleven should be gradual and not sudden. It always takes an adjusting time for new players to settle in and it puts undue pressure on them if you are fighting for every single point.
Imo, the biggest reason behind our struggles in the first half of this season was the combined absence of Xhaka and Partey.
The biggest issue what the lack of replacement for them, not that they were gone. We never found anyone to do for us what Xhaka did, if we had we might not be having this conversation
I said it last season, and I will say it again. We shouldn’t have allowed Xhaka to leave so easily. Should have tempted him with a better contract and wages and instead should have shifted Partey on. We would have won the league this season. It’s not just playing ability but also about leadership skills. Xhaka was one of the leaders in our squad and we haven’t replaced him.
Similarly, I don’t want to see Jorginho leave this summer. We should make him stay for at least another season. And tbh Arteta has hugely relied on him in the second half of the season. If his fitness was decent, he would have been starting every game right now.
agree on all accounts.
xhaka is going to walk into the bundesliga TOTS, he's at the absolute peak of his career right now between his ability, experience and leadership. just playing with such confidence in his role and he's one of the fittest players around, which he's proven again for leverkusen. he would've been a huge asset this season had he stayed.
jorginho, similarly, will offer us huge security next year in a diminished role. we should really be looking to activate that option to extend if it's still available.
partey meanwhile has shown nothing in his cameos of late, he looks way off the pace and i don't think he's going to find form between now and the end of the season. i'll be happy to see him move on for a whole host of reasons.
I think we sold Xhaka at the right time to get a fee.
I think Rice has taken on a lot of the leadership Xhaka offered.
We miss Xhaka more as a progressive passer and someone we can rely on to play every game.
Rice and Xhaka and 6 and 8 woulwould have been an interesting duo to see, though.
I disagree. I dont think letting Xhaka go was wrong (although Partey should have gone first before him) the biggest mistake Mikel made was underestimating how much value he added. He thought (imo) any attacking minded player could do that job and was grossly mistaken
A top quality LCM (Bruno G, Koopmeiners, De Jong etc) and we’ll return back to the level of output we had in 22/23 season
It’ll be a clear out but it won’t go down how we ideally want it, it never will.
Elneny, Cedric, Hein are all out of contract. Jorgi might stay.
If we get rid of Tierney, Nuno, Sambi, Ramsdale, Partey, Reiss & Eddie all on permanents I would be absolutely stunned.
There’ll be at least 3 who are loaned out with an option to buy. Then you’ve got the likes of Zinny & Jesus who are on the who knows pile.
If anyone disgarees with what im about to say let me know. I have 4 categories of players who will leave
1) Contracts Up: El Neny, Hein & Cedric
2) Loanees: Nuno, Lokonga, Tierney
3) For Profit (sadly): Nelson, ESR, Eddie, Patino & Mika
4) Experience but flawed: Ramsdale, Partey & Zinny
I think majority of these players have a strong chance of going i cant lie.
Winger will be Vieira, Jesus, Ethan. Think of how Trossard is an alternative to martinelli, that’s what Vieira can be and he provides the playmaking portion we need
I would put another defender ahead of a new striker. We have Havertz and Jesus that can play up top plus Trossard (freed up somewhat with another winger) and Nketiah adding depth.
Defenders we have White, Gabi, Saliba and Kiwior that have been regularly fit. Then Zinchenko and Tomiyasu who will realistically be fit about half the time and Timber coming back from a major injury so will likely have niggles for a while. These are covering 4 positions and we haven't demonstrated much ability to shift other players into defense or to use youth players there.
it will take you about 5 mins to love him once you see him wearing red on the carpet, let's be honest. and i say this as someone who despises that cunt.
I guess it's due to seeing guys like Ndombele, Aouar, Tolisso killing it for Lyon then flop abroad.
Can argue it's better to spend £30m more and know they can hack it in the league than be left with a £40m deadweight.
Can also argue that he wasn't ready to be at Arsenal right away, and that he needed some bedding in time as a nailed on starter, which he got.
We are also assuming we had the money and space within PSR to do it.
If we signed someone else, maybe, but as we didn't spend any money in Jan, we prob just didn't have the £40m needed.
There's definitely negotiation tactics that can be utilized to get around those kinds of things. 6 month loan with mandatory buyout, agreement with player and club to guarantee a buy in the summer even if for a slight higher fee etc. Our club is arguably just not as good and creative as other clubs when it comes to the business side of transfers and potentially paying 80M for Bruno would just further illustrate that
I think we are going for PL tested players (unless inevitable obviously). Before the Brighton transfer, we were also linked with Trossard IIRC. Same with Raya before Ramsdale actually came in. Under Mikel, we are avoiding buying straight from external leagues. Obv there are exceptions like Timber,Tomiyasu, Vieira or Kiwior. But when it comes to statement signings, we are making them from the league (aka the old united formula)
Bruno’s antics certainly give me pause, but he’s some player. One I wish we didn’t pass on when he was leaving Lyon. He’d fill out our midfield, that’s for sure. Plus I’m sure Ben would give him a few initiation elbows to welcome him!
Good player, natural fit in our eight slot and can fill in as a six in a pinch.
I just don’t see how Newcastle sell though, him and Isak are their best players. They’re directly strengthening us and weakening themselves significantly.
I really hope Paqueta is on the list.
He has everything in his locker, Prem proven, too.
With him, Rice, Odegaard, we'd have so much industry and technical ability.
Huge bonus that he's already formed a great midfield with Dec.
Apparent £85m clause, too.
Would you guys prefer Paqueta or Bruno?
Paqueta if we want another godly attacking outlet like Odegaard. In fact, he has the potential to be even more creative than Odegaard. (Coming from me who wanted Odegaard for even as high as 60-80m when majority here wanted Maddison over even 50m Ode). But that is how good Paqueta can be. And I trust Mikel to get him to that level, seeing what he has achieved with Havertz already.
Bruno is still fucking good. His attacking potency is somewhere in the upper half of the average between Odegaard and say, Havertz/Xhaka in that role, so still very good, but he also has an insane engine on him there. I have zero doubt, our pressing game which is already top notch will still rise another level with him there. Most opponents will be suffocated beyond belief with our A game.
But yeah, I'm a sucker for attacking football. I'm a fan because of Wenger. I'd want Paqueta for balls into goals game all day.
(OOTL) is he a prick off the field? I know he’s obviously had gambling issues and there was the tweet after the game against us in 2021, but has he done anything else?
Yeah, he always makes Brentford look like a joke and has long essentially acted like he's desperate to leave as he's too good for them.
Dates back a couple of years to when he was asked by someone who didnt recognise him whether he played for a big club and he said something like "nah, only Brentford".
There's been multiple incidents like that since including a couple of weeks ago him appearing on a podcast openly joking about leaving them at the end of the season.
If i were a Brentford fan I wouldnt like him.
We dont want disloyal dicks like that hanging around and potentially disrupting the dressing room by moaning and trying to force a big money move whenever we're in a hole.
We could've got him from Lyon for pretty much what we spent on Fabio Vieira. There's always risks that transfers don't work out but it's nowhere near the "hindsight" that fans want to pretend it is. We should've gone for him back then, would've helped massively in getting top 4.
Clubs make mistakes and Arsenal are certainly not immune to them. You guys don't have to try so hard to pretend that Arsenal, edu, mikel are infallible. Especially when a lot of you are the same people who were saying at the time that signing him wouldn't have made a difference and who were lashing out at fellow fans for saying we should go for Guimaraes back then and questioning the club when we didn't strengthen our squad for the top 4 run. You were calling us fake fans for daring to question the club and now you're on about "nothing could've been done and the signing couldn't have been made and it's all hindsight". Just stay consistent.
This is a good signing. He can essentially replicate what an injury free Partey does - press resistant and bring the ball from defense to the final third.
Add a dose of nasty and he’s always fit(missed 3 games on average per season in the last 3 seasons) - I am on board.
Not to mention he’s PL proven.
Another player we should've bought two seasons ago when he actually made sense. 100m for him now is stupid. Tielemans is 90% the player and he went for free to Villa. We need to find better value outside the PL
This is a bad take, Tielemans offers nothing of the physicality that makes Guimaraes a good fit for us. Also at this junction in our squad building, squad players are going to cost 50m+.
That doesn't mean Guimaraes is the right choice at 100m, but "value outside the PL" doesn't really exist as a concept right now with where we are.
>Another player we should've bought two seasons ago when he actually made sense
Upovted you for this.
>Tielemans is 90% the player
Took it off for this.
Makes sense why we got like 7 transfer target names last week then
Compile the list of names: Dusan Vlahovic Bruno G Isak Edit: Gyokeres Zubimendi Sesko If we assume we contacted all of those players, my personal preferences would be Bruno G, Vlahovic, Zubimendi.
Yann M’Vila, Yoann Gourcuff, Julian Draxler, Gonzalo Higuain and of course Karim Benzema.
Wheres my boy Aouar?
We don't talk anymoreeee
You don't talk anymAouar?
Get out
Get Aout?
C'est Avril
Dans votre monde...dans ma tête c'est Juillet:)
Where’s u/24AouarParteyPeople when you need him
I am so happy I just learned that exists. Thank you good sir
We have Yann M'Villa at home. His name is Coquelin
Kalou
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Yohann Cabaye
Hearing rumours of Sebastien Frey coming in to replace Ramsdale
Is Thomas Lemar still available? Come on guys, I'm sure he's still worth the 92m. Arsene Wenger turned that lad's head and he's never recovered.
Rooney next, Blimey
Can’t forget Suarez.
i raise you 1 chris samba
I heard Felipe Melo still has it
Kalou?
Hatem Trabelsi
Bro this guy. Even PES though he went to Arsenal😂😂
Their planes are set to touch down any moment now
This is the year Benzema arrives. I can feel it.
Did our medical team ever get out the jungle and complete medical for [Everton Soares](https://onefootball.com/en/news/report-arsenal-send-medical-team-to-brazil-for-everton-soares-26349319)?
This guy /gunners
Stephen Appiah
Douglas Luiz
After M’Vila we had stars in our eyes for some other CDM. Can’t recall the name. Played for Sporting if I remember right.
There were two of them - William Carvalho and Danilo. I looked them up in FIFA and was astounded how poor their stats were
Carvalho is the one I was thinking. Well done
Christiano Ronaldo was basically snatched from us by Fergie
Salomon Kalou wants a word.
Needs more Hatem Trabelsi.
William Carvalho in the mud
Reus?
This is the only transfer target list for me.
You forgot about Kalou
Forgot a cheeky little Aurier signing deadline day to cap it off.
Salomon Kalou?
Gyokeres, Zubimendi, Sesko and I think there are more still
Yea sounds spot on, thanks
Aint no one gonna beat Hatem Trabelsi. Man’s transfer was confirmed by PES, ready in our squad list and never showed up.
I remember that yes. 😂😂
Ooooh so that’s why he was in PES.
Gyokeres, Isak, Sesko Zubimendi, Bruno G Nico Williams, Olise, Pedro Neto
Zubimendi?
I just still think Bruno g is too dirty, I don't want him here lol. I like gyokeres quite a bit though. Want another big target in the box
He gets a way with his shite at NU, but he’d get so many cards if he played for AFC. He’d be like a new Xhaka in that regard.
Also rumours of Santiago Giminez
I've wondered for a while if he would be good for us. I like him a lot, but he seems to be out of form at the moment, and not sure if he can step up. I'm not an expert at all, but I'd like him for the right price.
I hear your concerns. Thats the issue with the Eridivise, could either be a Van Persie/Luis Saurez/Van Nistlerooy or could be someone like Antony lol
Olise was another name mentioned as well.
I'm still good on Vlahovic - there are elements to a deal there. There is, surprisingly, only 2 years left on his contract, Juve in a bit of the Allegri mire. I think he adds something we don't have in a attack, and I think he would improve under Arteta. I actually think he would free
Weren't we linked to Diomande, Hato, Douglas Luiz and Kadiôglu as well
Also Diomande.
Add a good winger like Nico Williams and this would be a 10/10 window. Still a long time to go tho
Turkish left back is probably on there too sadly
Why sadly?
Would prefer Gyökeres to vlahovic
Willian Pacho, Nico Williams, Sesko and Zubimendi would be my preference for the players linked
Not sure I trust the Pacho link. Dude is left footed. One of Gabriel or Kiwior would probably need to go to accommodate, meanwhile we still wouldn’t have a direct backup to Saliba.
I think he could be a perfect left back for Arteta’s system. We could then have Pacho, Gabriel, Kiwior and Zinchenko for the left sided positions. Sailba, White, Timber and Tomiyasu for the right sided positions.
Pacho has never played LB, he’s decent on the ball but the profile is too similar to Kiwior. Unlike his countryman Hincapié. The latter has actually played LB for club and country.
Arteta’s first choice for LB was Lisandro Martinez before he went Utd and he mostly played CB at Ajax, Timber and White mostly played at CB before joining us, even Tomiyasu has played a lot at CB for Japan and Bologna. Gvardiol never played at LB before joining City. So I don’t think these mangers want typical overlapping full backs as they want the wingers right on the touchline. Hincapié would be very interesting but I’ve never seen him linked to us, maybe the asking price would be too high ? Leverkusen are gonna try keep most of that squad together for at least 1 more year now that Alonso is staying
No doubt worth 80m if we can do that. Probably elevates us more than the strikers we’re linked to outside the world class bracket (which I don’t really think are available anyway) Prime age, takes load off of rice’s legs, no hiccups in ball playing, all around 8. Can’t ask for anything else. Solve the midfield problem and move on. He’s one of the best in the league
It would be so funny if we raided PIVcastle for Bruno and Isak in the same window. I'd get to listen to Shearer have a fucking meltdown on the Rest is Football
I'd love that one. He's always running his mouth about something. The worst part is, most of Alan Shearer's points are usually absolute crap. It's people like him that make me believe I could've been a football pundit had I been a decent footballer.
My question is don't other leagues have cheaper options... Players from EPL are always charged higher.
There definitely are but we’re too close to the top to cheap out and we’re spending big money anyway. If he is the perfect option, he will end up worth it I guess because he is very low risk
Plus, we’ve seen over and over and over again that until we actually see them do it, we have no idea how most players will adjust to the Premier League. We already know he can so that’s very much worth the premium.
I have seen Edu always placing value for players and letting them go when they are higher than that... For me bruno is not a player who puts in 80m shifts... Does a lot of potential yellow card fouls but flies under the radar... Unsure it will always be the case...
You mean like Kai havertz every game?
No havertz doesn't elbow people in the back or hit their heads or do sliding tackles with studs up
Problem is that Arteta values Premier League experience above all else aside from versatility.
Seen sensible people suggesting Fofana. I can't remember what he was like when he faced us but apparently he was v impressive.
Fofana is like 15 different players potentially
Which Fofana lol
I personally want a player who's not an end products but grows when he comes to arsenal... Like an Odegaard.. like a Gabi XL, like Ben white
Same logic would have got us Bruno 2-3 years ago, and then Paqueta an year or two ago. I don't like that we wait on pretty much certain quality beauties like these two, but I guess better late than never, if Arteta can break his sunk cost fallacy with Havertz for the 8.
For good reason. Our recent transfers within the league have been almost exclusively good. Well worth the premium imo.
The current staff values epl experience so much they rather pay up the premium. Stark contrast to Wenger.
Yes and I don't like it.. Because that makes us more like Chelsea and Manchester City
SAF dominated the league this way before those two showed up.
Still don’t know why we didn’t get him for 25m three seasons ago in January. Think we would have clinched CL that season until Bruno single handedly bossed our midfield.
> Can’t ask for anything else. Can ask for him to not be such a massive twat.
Think we’ve paid for having good characters like holding and bellerin enough for it not to be a factor at this point lol
Interesting how this story comes out after we got our title hunt back on track.
I reckon a lot of players who joined Newcastle did so with clauses for UCL qualification in their contracts. Now they’re realising how hard it’s going to be for Newcastle to consistently crack the top 4, they all wanna jump ship to the traditional big 6 clubs.
Shit, I was just trying a bad joke—a play on the old "oh it must be ST renewal season", when links start to surface before the summer window. But yeah, if Newcastle need to sell their best talent for FFP, or they have secret CL release clauses, I'm all for it.
This conspiracy theory has always been so weird to me. Like, do people think that the Arsenal board ever looked at each other since the move to the Emirates and gone "Wow, we might really struggle to sell some tickets this year"?
It’s obviously a meme from people who don’t know how long the season ticket waiting list is. They don’t realise that if everyone who has one didn’t renew they would still sell all those tickets very easily
I don't believe in the conspiracy theory for obvious reasons but it's not that simple. A low renewal rate will have a large impact on negotiations for anything related to match day.
I don't think other club will have any difficulty with ST renewals this year lol.
When we lose: Interesting how transfer stories have come out to distract us. When we win: Interesting how transfer stories have come out now we're back in the race.
At least it's not new merch dropping
I am conflicted
can't stand the cunt, but i'll immediately embrace him as my cunt the day we sign him
- Shakespeare
can't standeth the cunt, but I shall henceforth embrace that gent as mine own cunt on the day we signeth that gent
If comes to us, he's the best cunt in the world. If he stays at Newcastle, he's the worst cunt in the Premier League. Were he goes determines how we view him.
Would be a solid addition. Capable of playing with Declan and allowing Declan to rest. I still think another CM is needed as i would let Partey & Jorginho go but ST, Winger (capable of playing both flanks) and a Top quality Midfielder. Thats the window that makes us Champs (hopefully defending ones)
Transfer window wouldn't be complete without signing a defender.
We need a left back. Our current starting left back is worse than Wilshere when it comes to injuries.
Timber would like to have a word
He just scored too with the U21 team lol https://x.com/now_arsenai/status/1782472356394414352?s=46&t=GB9p0I_HbeqoPcRH5F1YDw
Idk much about how our u21 team usually sets up but I think it's telling that timber played lb. Think it's where mikel sees him in our team as opposed to a rb/rcb filling in at lb.
With Timber’s return it is no longer a priority. Best defense in Europe without him this season, including Zinny and Tomi out a lot to boot. That is incredible. Kiwior can improve, but has done a solid job considering he’s third choice for his position. If they all are fully fit through the summer (big if) money is better spent elsewhere.
I think there is 0 chance both jorginho and partey leave. Lokonga is coming back too.
Lokonga is coming back to gather his remaining belongings. he's done here.
I'd be tempted to try and loan Sambi again tbh - his contract is up in 2026 so we don't have to sell him if there's little to no offers for him this summer
Another loan would leave him with a year left on his contract which would completely weaken our negotiation stance. We absolutely have to sell him in the summer if we want to make any money from him. I think we could get a fair few offers for him, he's proven he can compete in the PL so I'm sure a bottom half team would be willing to pay around the 20 million mark.
Think 10 to 15 million is a reasonable range, probably closer to 10 though. Has played well enough for Luton but hasn’t done anything extraordinary, and never succeeded here. Maybe a lower half team wants to take a punt, but if not we should loan again. He’s got quality in him, but hasn’t really produced much so far. That, 5-10 million for Reiss, maybe 20 for Partey, 15 ish for Nketiah, 25 for Ramsdale and that’ll probably be our window.
Agree with what you say on Lokonga, but 5-10 for Reiss is criminal. And we will not be wanting to sell Partey unless there are some permanent fitness/injury issues (which could be the case). People forget about how much he improves how we play, and it is hard to imagine given he has barely featured this season, but if he were to get fully fit it is totally conceivable he will be a key player for us next season.
Partey’s one of our best players I agree, but he’s perma crocked. I can’t imagine who pays much more for Nelson at this stage, at this point he’s a 24 year old who’s never played regular football.
Partey been this season. The two seasons before his availability was make or break for us.
I dunno if we will tbh. He had a fair few injuries this season. Don't think we'll get near that valuation. Heck we all thought last summer we'd sell KT for a cert for like 30m or so and nothing happened there. I dunno what will happen with Sambi just yet
I would probably suggest KTs injury problems were far more well known which is why we couldn't get much for him, but possibly you're right, we will just have to wait and see what happens in the summer. But I think we're far likelier to get a better fee off the back of a decent season, rather than a fee in 2025 when he's only got a year left.
He's been very in and out of that Luton team due to injury. I don't think he'll get a valuation we'll be happy to sell him with just yet. If possible a 1 year extension and another loan would be perfect
He’s done an average job at a relegation threatened side. No bottom half clubs will want to spend 20 million on him. Even if we sell this summer rather than next, we may have to accept selling at a loss. A loan may be the best we can get now. Sometimes they just don’t work out.
If it's not 20 mill we should be getting whatever we can. I just don't see how selling him with a year left on his contract is better than selling with 2 years left on his contract. We have to get out of this cycle of loaning players that we don't want and letting them leave for nothing after they run their contracts down.
Agree. We just have to eat it on some of these that don’t pan out (and then put up with idiots that will say it means Edu is awful with his business at Arsenal)
And they all have to go, Jorginho i think is a last resort to leave but these players either arent up to the level (the lokongas and Nunos on the world) or cannot be trusted for one reason or another (the parteys & zinchenkos) I dont think arsenal fans realise how much of a clear out is coming. We are looking at a minimum 10 man gone
Changing too many players, especially in midfield, is never smart. Changes in the starting eleven should be gradual and not sudden. It always takes an adjusting time for new players to settle in and it puts undue pressure on them if you are fighting for every single point. Imo, the biggest reason behind our struggles in the first half of this season was the combined absence of Xhaka and Partey.
The biggest issue what the lack of replacement for them, not that they were gone. We never found anyone to do for us what Xhaka did, if we had we might not be having this conversation
I said it last season, and I will say it again. We shouldn’t have allowed Xhaka to leave so easily. Should have tempted him with a better contract and wages and instead should have shifted Partey on. We would have won the league this season. It’s not just playing ability but also about leadership skills. Xhaka was one of the leaders in our squad and we haven’t replaced him. Similarly, I don’t want to see Jorginho leave this summer. We should make him stay for at least another season. And tbh Arteta has hugely relied on him in the second half of the season. If his fitness was decent, he would have been starting every game right now.
agree on all accounts. xhaka is going to walk into the bundesliga TOTS, he's at the absolute peak of his career right now between his ability, experience and leadership. just playing with such confidence in his role and he's one of the fittest players around, which he's proven again for leverkusen. he would've been a huge asset this season had he stayed. jorginho, similarly, will offer us huge security next year in a diminished role. we should really be looking to activate that option to extend if it's still available. partey meanwhile has shown nothing in his cameos of late, he looks way off the pace and i don't think he's going to find form between now and the end of the season. i'll be happy to see him move on for a whole host of reasons.
I think we sold Xhaka at the right time to get a fee. I think Rice has taken on a lot of the leadership Xhaka offered. We miss Xhaka more as a progressive passer and someone we can rely on to play every game. Rice and Xhaka and 6 and 8 woulwould have been an interesting duo to see, though.
I disagree. I dont think letting Xhaka go was wrong (although Partey should have gone first before him) the biggest mistake Mikel made was underestimating how much value he added. He thought (imo) any attacking minded player could do that job and was grossly mistaken A top quality LCM (Bruno G, Koopmeiners, De Jong etc) and we’ll return back to the level of output we had in 22/23 season
I don't think de Jong's going anywhere now
It’ll be a clear out but it won’t go down how we ideally want it, it never will. Elneny, Cedric, Hein are all out of contract. Jorgi might stay. If we get rid of Tierney, Nuno, Sambi, Ramsdale, Partey, Reiss & Eddie all on permanents I would be absolutely stunned. There’ll be at least 3 who are loaned out with an option to buy. Then you’ve got the likes of Zinny & Jesus who are on the who knows pile.
If anyone disgarees with what im about to say let me know. I have 4 categories of players who will leave 1) Contracts Up: El Neny, Hein & Cedric 2) Loanees: Nuno, Lokonga, Tierney 3) For Profit (sadly): Nelson, ESR, Eddie, Patino & Mika 4) Experience but flawed: Ramsdale, Partey & Zinny I think majority of these players have a strong chance of going i cant lie.
I doubt we add 2 CMs in one window. Money will be tight and there are other more pressing needs.
Winger will be Vieira, Jesus, Ethan. Think of how Trossard is an alternative to martinelli, that’s what Vieira can be and he provides the playmaking portion we need
He would not allowe Rice to rest as BrunoG is not a lone 6
pair bruno with jorginho on occasion and rice can definitely rest. keeping jorginho around for one more season would be smart business.
He most certainly can do a job there and i dont doubt Mikel’s ability to protect his weaknesses as a 6 like hes done for Jorginho & Rice before.
I would put another defender ahead of a new striker. We have Havertz and Jesus that can play up top plus Trossard (freed up somewhat with another winger) and Nketiah adding depth. Defenders we have White, Gabi, Saliba and Kiwior that have been regularly fit. Then Zinchenko and Tomiyasu who will realistically be fit about half the time and Timber coming back from a major injury so will likely have niggles for a while. These are covering 4 positions and we haven't demonstrated much ability to shift other players into defense or to use youth players there.
I’d have him but he’s a massive cunt. Good player though.
it will take you about 5 mins to love him once you see him wearing red on the carpet, let's be honest. and i say this as someone who despises that cunt.
But he'd be *our* massive cunt 😪👉🏻👈🏻
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Bruno G Ødegaard and Rice would be a nasty trio. I don’t care if he’s a cunt, let’s make him our cunt
Sometimes a cunt is what we need
Perplexing why we didn't buy him straight from Lyon
we probably dont have the brown envelope under the table pull newcastle have
I guess it's due to seeing guys like Ndombele, Aouar, Tolisso killing it for Lyon then flop abroad. Can argue it's better to spend £30m more and know they can hack it in the league than be left with a £40m deadweight. Can also argue that he wasn't ready to be at Arsenal right away, and that he needed some bedding in time as a nailed on starter, which he got.
Can argue that management just dropped the ball on this one and fucked up, they're not infallible despite what some people think
We are also assuming we had the money and space within PSR to do it. If we signed someone else, maybe, but as we didn't spend any money in Jan, we prob just didn't have the £40m needed.
There's definitely negotiation tactics that can be utilized to get around those kinds of things. 6 month loan with mandatory buyout, agreement with player and club to guarantee a buy in the summer even if for a slight higher fee etc. Our club is arguably just not as good and creative as other clubs when it comes to the business side of transfers and potentially paying 80M for Bruno would just further illustrate that
It really is. We could’ve got him and Isak for less than £100m if we gambled.
Hindsight is a beautiful thing.
I think we are going for PL tested players (unless inevitable obviously). Before the Brighton transfer, we were also linked with Trossard IIRC. Same with Raya before Ramsdale actually came in. Under Mikel, we are avoiding buying straight from external leagues. Obv there are exceptions like Timber,Tomiyasu, Vieira or Kiwior. But when it comes to statement signings, we are making them from the league (aka the old united formula)
What do you mean statement signings? Bruno would have cost the same as Fabio
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Imagine next season we see Bruno G elbow Jorginho again but we are fine.
absolutely bring. i loathe the dude, would love to have him on our side
Bruno’s antics certainly give me pause, but he’s some player. One I wish we didn’t pass on when he was leaving Lyon. He’d fill out our midfield, that’s for sure. Plus I’m sure Ben would give him a few initiation elbows to welcome him!
Edu: "Come to us or become Mudryk"
Good player, natural fit in our eight slot and can fill in as a six in a pinch. I just don’t see how Newcastle sell though, him and Isak are their best players. They’re directly strengthening us and weakening themselves significantly.
Also rumors that PSG wants him
I really hope Paqueta is on the list. He has everything in his locker, Prem proven, too. With him, Rice, Odegaard, we'd have so much industry and technical ability. Huge bonus that he's already formed a great midfield with Dec. Apparent £85m clause, too. Would you guys prefer Paqueta or Bruno?
Paqueta if we want another godly attacking outlet like Odegaard. In fact, he has the potential to be even more creative than Odegaard. (Coming from me who wanted Odegaard for even as high as 60-80m when majority here wanted Maddison over even 50m Ode). But that is how good Paqueta can be. And I trust Mikel to get him to that level, seeing what he has achieved with Havertz already. Bruno is still fucking good. His attacking potency is somewhere in the upper half of the average between Odegaard and say, Havertz/Xhaka in that role, so still very good, but he also has an insane engine on him there. I have zero doubt, our pressing game which is already top notch will still rise another level with him there. Most opponents will be suffocated beyond belief with our A game. But yeah, I'm a sucker for attacking football. I'm a fan because of Wenger. I'd want Paqueta for balls into goals game all day.
City bound
I’d be very surprised if we go for him, not sure how we can pass on Toney because he’s a prick but not Bruno g
It's Toney being a prick off the field that's put people off, I can't say I've ever read anything about Bruno being one too
(OOTL) is he a prick off the field? I know he’s obviously had gambling issues and there was the tweet after the game against us in 2021, but has he done anything else?
Yeah, he always makes Brentford look like a joke and has long essentially acted like he's desperate to leave as he's too good for them. Dates back a couple of years to when he was asked by someone who didnt recognise him whether he played for a big club and he said something like "nah, only Brentford". There's been multiple incidents like that since including a couple of weeks ago him appearing on a podcast openly joking about leaving them at the end of the season. If i were a Brentford fan I wouldnt like him. We dont want disloyal dicks like that hanging around and potentially disrupting the dressing room by moaning and trying to force a big money move whenever we're in a hole.
We could've got him from Lyon for pretty much what we spent on Fabio Vieira. There's always risks that transfers don't work out but it's nowhere near the "hindsight" that fans want to pretend it is. We should've gone for him back then, would've helped massively in getting top 4. Clubs make mistakes and Arsenal are certainly not immune to them. You guys don't have to try so hard to pretend that Arsenal, edu, mikel are infallible. Especially when a lot of you are the same people who were saying at the time that signing him wouldn't have made a difference and who were lashing out at fellow fans for saying we should go for Guimaraes back then and questioning the club when we didn't strengthen our squad for the top 4 run. You were calling us fake fans for daring to question the club and now you're on about "nothing could've been done and the signing couldn't have been made and it's all hindsight". Just stay consistent.
Bruno should be top priority this summer imo. Dream scenario at LCM
He's a cunt. But I'd like him a lot more if he was OUR cunt.
My thinking exactly 🤣
Am I the only one who thinks that we need higher profile player than Bruno G ?
Ticksy - top bins!
I really hope this means we knock out our business quickly in the summer. Arteta has been much better than Wenger in that department.
I’m a big, big fan of Bruno and firmly believe he would be fantastic in the LCM slot. However, if I had one choice, it would be Paqueta.
Fuck it sign em both
This is a good signing. He can essentially replicate what an injury free Partey does - press resistant and bring the ball from defense to the final third. Add a dose of nasty and he’s always fit(missed 3 games on average per season in the last 3 seasons) - I am on board. Not to mention he’s PL proven.
What a signing this would be. Rated him so highly ever since he’s been at Newcastle We need to try now while Newcastle won’t be in UCL.
Don't think Bruno is a level raiser for us, but whatever
Go get Guimares, Zubimendi and Vlahovic and you’be probably got the best squad in the league.
Fake list - Kalou is not on there
Another player we should've bought two seasons ago when he actually made sense. 100m for him now is stupid. Tielemans is 90% the player and he went for free to Villa. We need to find better value outside the PL
This is a bad take, Tielemans offers nothing of the physicality that makes Guimaraes a good fit for us. Also at this junction in our squad building, squad players are going to cost 50m+. That doesn't mean Guimaraes is the right choice at 100m, but "value outside the PL" doesn't really exist as a concept right now with where we are.
Tielemans is nowhere near Guimaraes wtf
>Another player we should've bought two seasons ago when he actually made sense Upovted you for this. >Tielemans is 90% the player Took it off for this.
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Maybe cause we are now focused on next season?
I assume he would play as 8 if he joins? and Rice holds down 6
I think it would be the other way round
Really hope not. Bang average player & dogshit personality.