Other buddy is pretty much dead right. With more stringent laws and regulations. But customer demand for bigger faster comfier more tech. Shits getting rough. For me personally. I don’t feel comfortable with direct injection engines. And then you throw a turbo on that and it’s just a tough environment.
What does a turbo do? It increases pressure on the engine. What does direct injection do? It lowers the pressure by cooling the temperature, similar to the effect of water cooling.
If you have a turbo charger, then you want direct injection. Ideally you want direct injection with port injection. That’s the best combo but direct injection would be the next best. Followed by port.
So just a recap, the cooling effect from direct injection benefits a turbo because it allows the turbo pressure to run higher while reducing the likelihood of engine knock And also permits the engine to run on lower octane fuel.
None of this matters when the carbon build up along the intake runners and intake valves get nice and thick. While direct injection turbo engines is the most Efficient. The tendency for this carbon build up to cause issues kind of renders that efficiency useless if the whole engine is fuckered.
It’s almost like you can’t do a job cheap good and fast.
If you do it cheap and good it won’t be fast.
If you do it fast and cheap it won’t be good.
These new cars want to be efficient, fast, roomy. You can’t have all of those an still be reliable.
Yea it is really unfortunate, shouldnt be too much to ask for in this new era to just have a reliable a-b car that will last with regular maintenance right? Especially when it cost near 30k?
It really is. Toyota is the king of reliability but even they are fighting their own battles.
I love older cars. It’s just easier. Shit has been figured out. And it’s cheaper. I have an 08 accord with 277k on the dash. And I don’t see myself having a newer vehicle
The torque on my d16 head bolts was the same as the 1.5t give or take a couple ftlbs. And i wasnt running 15psi into the motor...
Also the stupid coolant passage honda put between each cylinder was just asking for this to happen.. diagnosed another crv for this last week.. hes lucky.. he made to 207,000km
There are plenty of 1.5 turbo with well over 150,000 miles on them by now.
Yes, some of them have issues, and many of them have issues because of improper maintenance or tuning the car and doing things to it that this engine is not really designed for.
So I would try to look at it this way, for every engine with a head gasket failure, there’s maybe hundreds that don’t have head gasket failures.
"1 in 200 of our cars is a massive piece of shit." - Honda
Minimize the engine screw up all you want, but If you're the one who bought the lemon, you probably won't be buying another Honda. That's bad for Honda.
Honestly, it seems to be luck of the draw. I’ve got 3 Hondas, and all 3 are the 1.5T and none of the cars have issues; all have varying mileage from 56k to 168k. I say that, but, I have seen a lot of what you’re talking about.
Luck of the draw or not, its completely unacceptable. Bad 1.5T engines cast doubt on their whole lineup, including their Hybrids that don't even have that engine.
It’s not just Honda, it’s a majority of the auto industry. I’ve been part of a class action lawsuit against ford for their crappy cvts. My Chevy cvt had way more problems, starting earlier than the Honda. These companies are just doing what the Obama administration asked of them, in the cheapest way possible. Buy electric if you want true reliability these days, at least that’s what consumer reports over the last 10 years indicates.
Well, with Japanese and Korean manufacturers they do it the cheapest way possible because they don’t actually care ab their NA or Europe markets and know they’ll move units regardless.
As with the American Manufacturers, QC is just extremely low and again Ford knows they’ll move units because our obsession with big trucks and SUVs
Other buddy is pretty much dead right. With more stringent laws and regulations. But customer demand for bigger faster comfier more tech. Shits getting rough. For me personally. I don’t feel comfortable with direct injection engines. And then you throw a turbo on that and it’s just a tough environment.
What does a turbo do? It increases pressure on the engine. What does direct injection do? It lowers the pressure by cooling the temperature, similar to the effect of water cooling. If you have a turbo charger, then you want direct injection. Ideally you want direct injection with port injection. That’s the best combo but direct injection would be the next best. Followed by port. So just a recap, the cooling effect from direct injection benefits a turbo because it allows the turbo pressure to run higher while reducing the likelihood of engine knock And also permits the engine to run on lower octane fuel.
None of this matters when the carbon build up along the intake runners and intake valves get nice and thick. While direct injection turbo engines is the most Efficient. The tendency for this carbon build up to cause issues kind of renders that efficiency useless if the whole engine is fuckered. It’s almost like you can’t do a job cheap good and fast. If you do it cheap and good it won’t be fast. If you do it fast and cheap it won’t be good. These new cars want to be efficient, fast, roomy. You can’t have all of those an still be reliable.
Yea it is really unfortunate, shouldnt be too much to ask for in this new era to just have a reliable a-b car that will last with regular maintenance right? Especially when it cost near 30k?
It really is. Toyota is the king of reliability but even they are fighting their own battles. I love older cars. It’s just easier. Shit has been figured out. And it’s cheaper. I have an 08 accord with 277k on the dash. And I don’t see myself having a newer vehicle
What happened? 1.5turbo sucks. That’s why they finally decided to kill it and move on to hybrids~ 😔😔
The torque on my d16 head bolts was the same as the 1.5t give or take a couple ftlbs. And i wasnt running 15psi into the motor... Also the stupid coolant passage honda put between each cylinder was just asking for this to happen.. diagnosed another crv for this last week.. hes lucky.. he made to 207,000km
There are plenty of 1.5 turbo with well over 150,000 miles on them by now. Yes, some of them have issues, and many of them have issues because of improper maintenance or tuning the car and doing things to it that this engine is not really designed for. So I would try to look at it this way, for every engine with a head gasket failure, there’s maybe hundreds that don’t have head gasket failures.
"1 in 200 of our cars is a massive piece of shit." - Honda Minimize the engine screw up all you want, but If you're the one who bought the lemon, you probably won't be buying another Honda. That's bad for Honda.
Honestly, it seems to be luck of the draw. I’ve got 3 Hondas, and all 3 are the 1.5T and none of the cars have issues; all have varying mileage from 56k to 168k. I say that, but, I have seen a lot of what you’re talking about.
Luck of the draw or not, its completely unacceptable. Bad 1.5T engines cast doubt on their whole lineup, including their Hybrids that don't even have that engine.
It’s not just Honda, it’s a majority of the auto industry. I’ve been part of a class action lawsuit against ford for their crappy cvts. My Chevy cvt had way more problems, starting earlier than the Honda. These companies are just doing what the Obama administration asked of them, in the cheapest way possible. Buy electric if you want true reliability these days, at least that’s what consumer reports over the last 10 years indicates.
Well, with Japanese and Korean manufacturers they do it the cheapest way possible because they don’t actually care ab their NA or Europe markets and know they’ll move units regardless. As with the American Manufacturers, QC is just extremely low and again Ford knows they’ll move units because our obsession with big trucks and SUVs
Toyota seems to be thriving with that strategy