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zonzon1999

Teacher from reincarnated as a sword


Madus4

That would be the biggest middle finger the Grail could give you. “Oh, you want a Saber? Here’s a sword, do it yourself you lazy bastard.”


KingOfWerewolfs

It's not just a sword it's a sword that could fight and protect you on its own too


Dunois721

I vote for: Shadow as Pretender Rudeus as Caster Makoto (Tsukimichi) as Archer Arc (skeleton Isekai) as Saber Lugh Tuatha Dé (World's finest assassin) as Assassin Tanya von Degurechaff as Berserker Saitou (zero no tsukaima) as Ruler (only for the arm thingy) Naofumi (Shield bro) as Shielder, like obvsl Hiraku Machio ( Isekai nonbiri nouka) as Lancer Moon Cancer: no idea Avenger : I can only think of Ukei Kaito (Nidome no Yuusha, manga canceled, only 11 ep) Foreigner: i have an idea but it needs Mason's numbers Alter ego: no idea Edit: changed Pretender, Assassin and Avenger Edit 2: noticed I chose Mobuseka for Makoto, corrected to Tsukimichi


eprojectx1

Avenger: redo of healer


Kegnation14

Not an isekai..?


Dunois721

what he said


TheDemonBehindYou

Shadow would fit pretender way better tbh. He loves his secret identities


Dunois721

Eminence in the Shadow, I want to hit myself in the head


Puddingnepp

Cid falls under not good enough for what pretender class is actually. Cid falls closer to zorro if anything in concept. The closest equalivent I think you are trying to compare him to Cagliostro And is not anyone close to Cagliostro numbers of lies and delusions. Pretenders isn’t putting on a mask and making secret identities.


DeeKahy

I've played too much elden ring... I saw this and thought huh I haven't seen some of thiese bosses yet.


AmGeiii

Make it Kazuma with his Chunchunmaru


FoxyFox0203

Reinhard van Astrea from Re:Zero


DarkSoulFWT

Considering what his ability is, I don't think thats possible. Hes seriously someone thats a bit too broken. You could genuinely make the argument that in Fate terms, hes more comparable to an ultimate one than a grand servant or beast. Unless hes significantly nerfed to be a summon, IG, which happens anyway to some heroes. Or unless we're ignoring those mechanics and its really just anything goes.


TheDemonBehindYou

I feel like the best way would be his divine blessings having a limit, like only 10 blessings at a time. Would still be op af but more balanced.


Deadlock-33

Bro wtf are on about Even with all his shtick he's high servant level at best The beasts and lb kings would blink him out of existence As far as the ULTIMATE ONES LIKE ARCTYPE EARTH and ORT there are base line outerversal Reinhard is barely planetary star level if you highball him (yes I'm aware of ln feats)


DarkSoulFWT

Stopped reading, didn't care. Literally no "standard servant" even begins to come close to the complete bs he is capable of unless you take the ones that literally ignore all those rules, like the Lostbelt Kings No Beast really can just "do whatever" either, which is essentially what Reinhardt can do.


Deadlock-33

Standard servants like kiara or Abigail Williams would rail him without much efforts His divine blessings aren't going to work against servants who possess similar if not more powerful authorities And lostbelt kings like Zeus and Arjuna alter are complex multiversal How hell does he range that high


DarkSoulFWT

Since you're not even reading what I wrote correctly considering that remark about LB Kings, sure. Great. You're correct. Good job buddy!


Kegnation14

My vote goes to Kirito, father of the black haired isekai protagonist Qualifications for the saber class are as follows: > Servants placed within this class are agile and powerful melee warriors adept at swordsmanship, boasting high ratings in all categories, and they are often heroes from the [Age of Gods](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Age_of_Gods) when magecraft was still commonplace. The qualifying conditions require the [Heroic Spirits](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Heroic_Spirits) to have legends as knights of the sword, and it is the class that requires the highest levels of attributes in all but the Magic attribute.[\[1\]](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Saber#cite_note-class-1) It is possible for the status qualifications to be bypassed in special circumstances, such as through [Nero Claudius](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Nero_Claudius)'s [Imperial Privilege](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Privilege).[\[2\]](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Saber#cite_note-2) [Toyotomi Hideyoshi](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Toyotomi_Hideyoshi)'s Noble Phantasm [Blade Taker](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Blade_Taker) qualifies him as an extremely rare Saber without qualities distinctive of the class.[\[3\]](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Saber#cite_note-3) Compatible Heroic Spirits usually excel in delivering powerful burst attacks. Starting with stats, Kirito with his high level absolutely qualifies for having high speed, attack, def, etc., and the one thing he has absolutely none of is magic so that actually fits the bill perfectly The second thing, "they are often heroes from the Age of Gods". Kirito absolutely qualifies for this in my opinion given how og of an anime sao is and how widely known it is. Also within verse he is from sao which could be considered the age of gods for vrmmos Finally, they excel in delivering powerful burst attacks, which Kirito could do with starburst stream, but it could also be argued that any sword skills he uses are burst attacks. I guess his noble phantasm would be starburst stream in that case given we're talking about the original sao variant too Btw op in the future I think you should also include the class qualifications in the description of the post so people have a better idea of how to place characters :) To find them simply google "\_ class fate" ex: saber class fate, then go to the typemoon fandom page and scroll to qualifications


shino4242

Yeah, I vote Kirito too.


DominusLuxic

Ginko from Samurai in Another World.


killerrexy

Cid kagenou emirance in shadow


Kegnation14

I think he works better as a pretender > *Those who have given false representation, deceiving and misleading others to do great deeds. Not a fake or counterfeit, but someone who deceives even the soul until more power and greater achievements than the real thing remain.* Definitely does a lot of deception since he gives off being a mob character + charades like John Smith, and he does lead shadow garden into great things (though by complete accident) so yeah Maybe my real issue is that I don't really think he works that well as a saber though, since I feel like for him the sword is just one of many tools he uses, a means to an end. While he does master the sword he also can use a plethora of magic, hand to hand, and frankly can use probably anything as a weapon, which is why for me the sword just seems like the option he decided to go with since it's cooler than anything else he could use


rst64tlc

Honestly I think he works in either Assassian, Pretender and if we are really pushing it, Foreigner due to his ability to travel back to his own world...and back.


Kegnation14

Idk he seems way too strong to be an assassin imo lol Traditionally assassins rely on stealth to get the jump on people and kill them with one swift blow. Gonna make a comparison here you may or may not get but if you’ve watched assassination classroom then Cid gives more of Karma than Nagisa (comparing them from their fight in the back half of s2). It’s said that Karma enjoys the process whereas Nagisa, a purist assassin, just looks for the one blow to end it all. Cid never finishes things as fast as he could and instead likes to flaunt it As for foreigner maaaybe..? I’d say the only problem is that there are likely more qualified beings for it such as Yogiri from instant death. Cid is absolutely still a human being no matter how strong he is, and to add to that he doesn’t really give me the outer gods vibes that all the actual foreigners have. Finally, a foreigner is someone who “overturns the laws of our world” and I think cid still operates within the laws he is given and just takes everything to the absolute maximum. I see your argument though Edit: I cannot spell


Nintendo_Switch_L

Bruh, say that to assassin servants face lmao. Lets see the Grand Assassin is a fucking dark souls boss, there is a goddess(one of the medusa sisters), an executioner, literal sword master, a vampire, someone from another timeline swinging around a sword, drunk person, someone who uses paper as a tool and is an h\*ntai artist(totally), a genderbend god, a beast, a war god, druggie and list goes on. I did not even count joke characters, do I need to say more on how little stealth matters to be an assassin. The Archer class are truly made of archers meme applies here as well.


Kegnation14

I mean in the original grail wars the Hassan’s were the only ones who really qualified for the class for a reason lol. Old man on the mountain is also the grand assassin so I think it makes sense that he’s really strong as supposed to the average assassin. But yeah while things do get wacky especially when counting fgo, in a traditional grail war the description I gave fits the assassin class


killerrexy

I could see him working as some of the other classes but I just think some of his most Iconic moments are with swords and he's very showy like mention early witch At lest form what I seen alot of sabers do seem to be allthogh most noble phantasm are flashy


Puddingnepp

It’s spefically used Someone like zorro wouldn’t work. The fact a good chunk of people knows Cid and Shadow are different people and even Cid disguished the twos means he isn’t really qualified for pretender. He isn’t tricking his own soul in the way that matters. He still disgutishes Shadow and Cid. Espically with how he treats it the same way superheroes treat their identities. Pretender is arguably the hardest class to qualify for.


Kegnation14

True that


Dawyken

Going against the current, I would put Cid as Ruler, he has a wish that he already achieved although he doesn't realize it, the grail would see this as not having a wish and also playing the shadow ruler in a grail war is what he would do.


Crazy_Bastard69

If I'm being honest, Reid is more suited as Saber than Reinhard. Reinhard is a freak of nature and overall is stronger than Reid, but he's more of a good at everything kind of guy. Also personally, I think Reid is superior to Reinhard in terms of pure sword skill. The guy can sever connection, which I'm sure Reinhard can't do.


mortemdeus

Must be getting old...not seeing a single Kenshin Himura


KMjolnir

Not an isekai?


UnlikelyCourt973

Reinhard for re zero. Simple because he checks all boxes 1. Is a knight 2.blessed by something similar to a god 3.has high af mana resistance 4. Has High mana but don't cast spells 5. Has that charisma as well as the do gooder nature 6. Honour 7. Realeasing sword beams against worthy people and having special sword. 8.have the required fame and pulled stunts that stunned everyone 9.have some people following you to death


DivineTarot

Since we're going with Saber today... **my vote also goes to Kirito both for his in universe prowess and his impact on the subgenre.** Since a servants power is relative to just how famed they are both in general and in the world his far reaching shadow leading to essentially the bulk of most Isekai protagonists being his duplicates would borderline potentially grant him noblephantasms that evoke this, i.e. Kirito might legit have an ability to do shit he couldn't in universe due to his association to the archetype he's effectively codified. Whether people agree or disagree is not a matter of contention either, and does actually add to my point. Notoriety is just another form of fame in the end.


I_Am_Not_Joes_Mama

Ainz is either gonna be Ruler or Caster but I think Alter Ego (as momon) or Pretender (normal Ainz) would also fit him nicely.


Randomnesswithfries

The ruler class servants are meant to be impartial to the wishes of granting powers of the grail. Considering that Ainz would have many things he would wish for, I don’t think he fits for the ruler class. Definitely the caster class tho.


Shilion34

He only wants to be with his comareds.


Randomnesswithfries

I think even that would make him impartial. He would want to gain access to the grail for his own goals. Ruler class servants are meant to be impartial overseers of the grail wars. This doesn’t always happen, but having a ruler servant start off with wanting the grail doesn’t really fit with the class


Shilion34

Fair enough, thanks for the explanation


Shirojime

Saber XD with Momon will be pretty funny


Mr_gaminhero

For saber my vote is krusty from log horizon


Byrand-YT

Pretty sure Voyager isn’t a class but an actual servant of the foreigner class.


brak_6_danych

iirc he is voyager class in requiem and foreigner in fgo


Byrand-YT

Then by that logic only Voyager will be the Voyager class since he’s the only one in the class.


brak_6_danych

Yes, the same way how avenger was initially angry mango exclusive, moon cancer was bb exclusive and funny vamp is an arc exclusive class some classes in fate are simply unique, made for specific characters


AkiraDKCN

Alice from SAO because Saberface lol


CelebrationSpare6995

Rudeus as saber would be possible


Oogalaboo134

He fits more into caster, Eris could be Saber or Berserker.


Gift-Positive

I dont know the lower 5 classes. Can someone fill me in?


Makoy_PH

A Pretender is a Heroic Spirit who is not an opponent to man or beast, but the world through spinning impersonations. A Voyager is an Extra Servant Class. Qualifications for the Class are unknown. The Class did not originally have a name until Circe decided to name it after Voyager, as in the space robe launched by nasa that Fate decided to make into a servant. A Alter Ego has alternate aspects and personalities split from their originals. Instead of being proper Heroic Spirits, they're personifications of emotions, wishes and various aspects that belong to others. A Moon Cancer is an irregular Extra Class which was originally exclusive to the Artificial Intelligence known as B.B., who became a virus which threatened the sanctity of the Moon Cell in a certain parallel world. A Foreigner is a designation given to Heroic Spirits who draw their power from outside the sphere of human consciousness, often from unknowable entities of the sort described by H. P. Lovecraft, and have the potential to overturn the base laws of the world. Hope this helps too others who will later make a vote for this 5 classes.


Gift-Positive

Pretenders are still unclear to me. But thanks l think I got the others


Makoy_PH

In short they're the Heroic spirits that make enemy in to the world


Gift-Positive

Can I have an example. The concept seems a but foreign to me


Makoy_PH

Oh.. you don't know Fate? Well lets say Its a Battle Royal of 7 masters and 7 servants for a Holy Grail in a...... Holy Grail War, if there's an anomaly to this "Holy Grail War" a Ruler will he summoned. The class Avenger - Foreigner is from a game series called Fate/Grand Order, other than the Avenger I already explained what the other class do. On the first 7 it's more on common sense except Archer and Assassin Class, Saber Class uses sword, Lancer Class uses Lance, Caster Class uses magic, Rider class has good riding skills (lets say they can drive anything) , Berserker Class are servants that are berserk, Archer Class on the other hand don't need to use Bow, as long as they can shoot projectiles *ehem Gilgamesh,Emiya* they can be Archer Class, One of them even uses a sword *ehem Emiya* even being an Archer class, Assassin Class on the other hand the only qualifying Heroic Spirits are the nineteen Hassan-i-Sabbah due to the etymology of the very word Assassin being tied to them, for them killing their master was far easier than battling with the other servants.


Gift-Positive

No no I know fate At least zero, stay night and apocrypha. I meant the pretender is still unclear to me


shynavyseal

Touch Me from Overlord


NagiDokuro

Hakurou the oni from slime reincarnation


Dismal_Builder_2995

Ainz- Caster Yogiri - foreigner


TrendmadeGamer

Yo giri Np- Inflict Death with 500% chance no strings attached


zonzon1999

Increase by 100-500% based on overcharge, in order to definitely work on bosses. Skills: Killing Intent Sense - grant [invincibility] (3 times, 3 turns) to all allies, grant [Protection From Killing Intent] (Buff Removal Immunity, when hit by an attack from an enemy with [Ignore Invincibility] inflict [Death] on the attacker (500%) (applies before damage is dealt) ) to 1 ally and self. {5-3 turn cooldown }


jacker1154

Yagyu Sojiro the Willow-Sword. This guy is pure sword play and skill


Madus4

That crazy bastard would love the Holy Grail War. Hell, his wish would probably to do it all again with different Servants so he can keep fighting.


Political-St-G

Reinhard van Astrea or his predecessor Has everything fame, incredible feats


SnooPredictions3028

Tanya as Rider class


Im_a_doggo428

The guy that’s just throwing hands and not weapons


Oogalaboo134

Don't know that guy but he could be Archer but not Saber


NaiveEnvironment1145

Kirito, Reinhard, Asuna, Hinata, Darkness, Kazuma, Paul, Eris, Teacher & Fran, Ren Itsuki, Raphtalia, Benimaru, Shion, Hakurou, and Shin!😄


Rainos62

benimaru from reincarnated as a slime


InfinityAnnoyance

When we get to that point, Rider should be one of the human characters in Digimon with their mount being their Digimon partner obviously. I think we could go with Taichi Yagami because he is probably the most well known.


Visible_Team_5754

Isekai samurai mc !; that girl is really a good one.


ReadySource3242

All of them would be archers. Why? Don't ask, they all use some sort of long range projectile


5thZenAgni

Fran from reincarnated as a Sword definitely fits the Saber class


Full_frontal96

The sword hero (ren,right?) from rising of the shield hero


Shilion34

Cocytos