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SupremeDesigner

That's a wrap folks. Thanks, everyone, for hopping in and asking/answering questions. Hope y'all enjoyed it! šŸ’™ The post will remain up, so folks can continue to reference the questions that were asked and their answers whenever.


windows300

Hi Space people! I am a big fan of Jetbrain's tools. I use CLion, Rider and Youtrack almost daily. Here are my questions: 1. When will the standalone self hosted version of Space be available? 2. Is there any features that the self hosted version will lack over the cloud hosted one? 3. What will be the pricing for self hosted Space? If nothing specific, maybe a ball park estimate? 4. How good is the integration with 3rd party git hosting (gitlab)?


MikhailVink

Hi! \> 1. When will the standalone self hosted version of Space be available? We plan to release the Standalone version sometime in 2021. \> 2. Is there any features that the self hosted version will lack over the cloud hosted one? We plan to keep feature parity between Space Cloud and Space Standalone except in cases when thatā€™s not technically possible. So most of the features should make it into Space Standalone, with only some rare exceptions (we don't have a list for now, as it's all in development). Integration with some Cloud services exposed via Marketplace applications will be limited on Standalone, unless the vendor of these extensions provides some support for the on-premise version. There also could be some additional features in Standalone that originate from the deployment type and don't make sense in the Cloud deployment. \> 3. What will be the pricing for self hosted Space? If nothing specific, maybe a ball park estimate? We are not able to give a ballpark estimate at this point, sorry about that! We are working on various options, and we will make an announcement as soon as weā€™ve decided on the approach to pricing. At the moment there are still too many variables. \> 4. How good is the integration with 3rd party git hosting (gitlab)? Bi-directional mirroring of GitLab repositories definitely works well, as does repository migration from GitLab to Space. This is similar to what is described in [https://blog.jetbrains.com/space/2020/02/06/mirroring-an-external-git-repository-in-space/](https://blog.jetbrains.com/space/2020/02/06/mirroring-an-external-git-repository-in-space/), and it would work in the same way for other third-party git hosting providers. At this point, there is no integration with GitLab for issues/pull requests/wiki.


nitrog42

About 3) I'd like to know if having a fixed cost (like youtrack) is still on the table, or if even in standalone we'll get a monthly subscription per user...


MikhailVink

>About 3) I'd like to know if having a fixed cost (like youtrack) is still on the table, or if even in standalone we'll get a monthly subscription per user... At this point, all the options are on the table, and there is no decision made yet. As usual, all the directions have pros and cons :) So we are looking into it.


transcend

Do you have plans to add more functionality to the Issues? Right now Issues seem fairly basic, I guess about feature parity with what GitHub has. My company is currently using Jira for tracking issues. We're not "power users" by any means, but it's important to us to be able to assign issues with a standard "type" (bug, enhancement, idea), "priority" (high, medium, low), and one or two other custom fields that are meaningful for our product. I have been checking back on Space on a regular basis to assess switching from our Atlassian-centred tools to Space instead. Lack of functionality in Issues is the biggest stumbling block. Is your thought that organizations who need something more than basic issue tracking should use a product such as YouTrack or Jira instead? Thanks!


maxim_mazin

Sure, we're actively working on enhancing Issues in Space. At the moment, we're working on the custom fields, and we'll introduce the priority as a default field along with the custom fields. Time tracking is also on our list for the future, and other enhancements, including sprint planning, burndown chart, etc. We believe we're on the right way to meet your requirements in the nearest future.


egorfe

Hey guys! Space looks like it's headed in the right direction, replacing multiple popular services at the same time. However, in comparison with YouTrack, it seems like it's fairly behind on actual issue tracking. The stuff that matters a lot in complex projects, like custom fields in tasks, issue dependencies, issue hierarchy, roadmap views is not there. Most of it does exist in Youtrack. Right now it feels like that Space has a hole in it that could be filled by YouTrack. So the question is are you planning to merge the services at some point? Or are you planning to redevelop YouTrack features for Space? If yes, then to what extent? Thanks!


maxim_mazin

That's true. YouTrack is a mature and flexible issue tracker. We don't have a plan to merge YouTrack and Space. We will instead bring some YouTrack features into Space. Now we are working on adding the custom fields, and we have some further plans regarding the issue links and planning boards.


LouisCAD

Is there a way to sync Youtrack and the issues feature of Space together? If not, what are the plans regarding YouTrack, mid/long-term?


maxim_mazin

At the moment there is only an import API for issues and an open-source application that takes issues from YouTrack and launches them into Space. We are going to evolve Spaceā€™s extensibility features to support importing issues from various sources. YouTrack is a single purpose tool that is available both as a Cloud and as an on-premise solution. If you just need a flexible issue tracker with agile boards and a knowledge base, YouTrack will work perfectly. And Space is available if you are looking for a tool to meet all of your team's needs. JetBrains will continue developing both products to address their particular use cases.


swedishqilin

Been using Space on trial since beta launch. I teach programming part of my time. Considered using Space as a teaching platform. Communication, code sharing, documentation and such. I know itā€™s a niche use case but do you have any plans to work with that part? Or perhaps I should build a plug-in for the parts to fully support a teaching platform...


MikhailVink

We didn't initially design Space for this use case, but after many discussions with educational institutions (both universities and training companies), it seems that a lot of the concepts we have in Space fit nicely into the educational process. So weā€™re already seeing a significant adoption of Space in the field of education, even at this early stage. For now, we are not working on education-specific features, as our primary focus is on features related to organizations and work collaboration. In the future, we definitely plan to consider making Space even more appealing for educational institutions, but there is no specific timeline for this. A lot should be already possible with what we have out of the box, and you can integrate with Space or build on top of Space to get even more features for your teaching platform. If there are any obstacles in terms of extensions, let us know. We want to make Space easy to extend for any use case, including education.


swedishqilin

Great to hear. Yes, we could use Space now with a few compromises. Iā€™m going to do a trial for that to determine if it will work for the classes this fall.


MikhailVink

Would be glad to talk about your experience and missing features after the trial! You can find me via Twitter ([@mikhail\_vink](https://twitter.com/mikhail_vink)) or email (mikhail.vink \[at\] [jetbrains.com](https://jetbrains.com)), or here in DM.


StylianosGakis

Not a niche at all. What people learn in University is crucial to what they will want to work with afterwards as well. After my University teacher showed us IntelliJ, I haven't used any other IDE (willingly) ever since. Getting students familiar with Space from their university years will make then just so much more likely to want to use it going forward as well! I do believe that great effort must be made in this, just like they've done with student edition of PyCharm and IntelliJ


MikhailVink

Totally agree with you!


DeBryceIsRight

Hi Space! 1. Do any teams at JetBrains use Space internally yet? If so, how has their migration (from presumably YouTrack) helped their team become more productive? Does the company have plans for *all* teams, even those that are publicly facing, to migrate in the future? 2. Do the Space developers refer to themselves as "astronauts"?


orangy

1. We have many small and medium-sized teams at JetBrains that use Space for their collaboration. They use it for their Git repositories and to do code review, for deploying packages, and so on. Space is a tool that covers more of our processes than YouTrack, so itā€™s not really fair to say that we are ā€œmigrating from YouTrackā€. Itā€™s more like we are replacing a lot of scattered tools with Space. Itā€™s too early to put any numbers on the productivity increases weā€™ve seen, but we are actively doing research about this. The issue is complex, and it requires extensive investigation. We will share our findings as soon as they are available. YouTrack is still used in JetBrains for public-facing issue tracking and communication with customers and users. Itā€™s not going away anytime soon, especially for larger teams like IntelliJ IDEA and other IDEs that have a lot of things in YouTrack to migrate, such as data, customizations, workflows, etc. Of course, we plan to improve Space to the point where migration is an obvious choice for all of our teams, but we donā€™t want to force the matter. 2. The Space team is multicultural. So we say astronauts or cosmonauts depending on our background.


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Fxshlein

Names where I know where they come from: Kotlin - Kotlin is the name of an Island, like Java MPS - Meta Programming System Then my guess for some of the names: RubyMine - like a mine where rubys are mined CLion - like seelion ReSharper - C sharp, but like resharpening a knife AppCode - Well... you code apps DataGrip - Because you get a grip on your data IntelliJ - Intelligent Java IDEA - IDE and idea PhpStorm - WebStorm with PHP Space - Because it is a space for everyone in the team YouTrack - you track the project Then some really far fetched guesses: Ktor - as a play on catering (because of "server") WebStorm - JetBrains / WebStorm = Brain Storm? The names of dotCover, dotMemory, dotPeek, dotTrace tools all make sense I think šŸ˜„


orangy

The name JetBrains stems from word play on the phrase "thinking fast". Then thereā€™s the name of one of our first and our most important products, IntelliJ IDEA, which is relatively easy to decode. Itā€™s an Intelligent Java IDE(a). Generally our product names reflect this two-part structure established with the first product and the company names. One word suggests the technology covered by the product, and another word carries an emotional meaning (e.g. ā€œcharm", ā€œstorm", etc.). Over time, following this rule started to get tough, and we deviated from the pattern with CLion and AppCode. We just gave up altogether with Rider. Kotlin, our programming language, is named after an island near St. Petersburg. JetBrains Space is probably the most generic name of our products and this was intentional, as it is a space for all teams and team members to work together.


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GGorAAO

Hello JetBrains! I have only one question: when the web version of Space will get a normal dark mode? 'Cause making only sidebar dark is a bad decision


jetixc

Hi! Agree, dark mode is must have. We are working on it, but no ETA as of yet.


teknik_tdr

Do you plan to create migrations from Jira and Confluence?


MikhailVink

We recently released an import API for issues ([https://blog.jetbrains.com/space/2020/12/04/import-issues-into-space/](https://blog.jetbrains.com/space/2020/12/04/import-issues-into-space/)), so it's already possible to build a migration from Jira to Space issues. An import API for specialized documents will be available soon, and then it will be possible to import from Confluence to Space documents, as well. We are not currently building our own migrations from Jira and Confluence to Space, but we are talking to a technology partner who is interested in doing so. This means they may be coming very soon.


pazzitiv

Hello everybody. Will you implement binding of commits to issues?


maxim_mazin

Yes, we will. We actually need this feature badly ourselves. Here is the YouTrack issue: [https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SPACE-6021](https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SPACE-6021)


LouisCAD

Is there a way to open up a part of the issues to the public, as it's already possible with YouTrack as we can see on [https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/](https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/), where most, if not all issues from JetBrains products can be found?


maxim_mazin

Space organizations are isolated from the outside world. To access different areas in Space, including issues, one has to be a member of the organization. But we are seeing demand for anonymous and external guest access, so we are going to add some support for this in the future. There is already an issue in YouTrack about the matter: [https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SPACE-5844](https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SPACE-5844)


bladnor

How is youtrack an space related? Does space replace youtrack in the future? Can I import youtrack projects, issues, timetracking etc. into space?


Valerie_AndrianovaJB

YouTrack and Space are two different products. YouTrack is an issue tracking and project management tool, with flexible customization and a powerful feature set. Space is much wider in terms of its functionality and use cases supported. It goes way beyond issue tracking and project management. We don't have a plan to replace YouTrack with Space. YouTrack perfectly covers the issue tracking process and will keep its status. Space is an all-in-one solution that completely supports the software development process and provides communication and information sharing tools. We're actively extending issue tracking functionality in Space. At the moment we're working on the custom fields, priority, and time tracking is also on our list. You can import issues from YouTrack to Space using our custom script. However, time tracking can't be imported at the moment, as it's not supported in Space yet. Check [this blog post](https://blog.jetbrains.com/space/2020/12/04/import-issues-into-space/) for more details.


Fxshlein

Very excited about the product! It was already said in the kick-off stream chat that Standalone will propably arrive next year (and propably in "More than 1 month" šŸ˜„). Can you already tell us about your plans for the pricing of the standalone version?


MikhailVink

Not at this point, I'm afraid, as we are still figuring out our options in terms of standalone pricing. We'll announce the pricing as soon as it's ready, and we'll make our best to share it well in advance of the release. I would give a rough ETA (without making any commitments, of course :) ) of Q1 2021 for the preliminary pricing announcement. There is a special option to subscribe for on-premises/standalone updates at [https://www.jetbrains.com/space/buy/?billing=yearly#standalone](https://www.jetbrains.com/space/buy/?billing=yearly#standalone). Make sure to sign up so you don't miss any news!


Velovix

Hi Space Team! I see Space as a very promising tool for improving internal collaboration within a company. However, increasingly software shops have begun engaging the greater software community by open sourcing components, accepting contributions, and publicly tracking issues. Are there any plans to make Space a tool that helps with this increasingly common internal/external hybrid approach to software development?


serjic

We believe that such hybrid approach is very common and we see that poor tooling makes things significantly harder for people who try to extract components from their projects to open source. We do have plans to approach this problem in our git hosting, automation and code review subsystems. On the other hand, we will not directly support guest access for code bases and rather will try to provide seamless integration with GitHub. As for public issue tracker in Space, we will rely on integration with other tools to solve these use cases.


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Hi Space folks, I am a freelance app developer and I was wondering if Space is the kind of product that could become a "hub" of sorts for all my client projects and communication, source control, CI/CD (e.g. native iOS, Android, Kotlin Native) etc. I am obviously a team of 1 + my clients (and sometimes other developers I work with on a project). In any case, it was really cool to see the keynote... it's amazing what you've achieved in the past months (years?). šŸ¤©


Valerie_AndrianovaJB

Hi! Thanks a lot for your kind words, we appreciate them! Sure, you can definitely start using Space for your own projects with the free plan. You're also welcome to invite your friends and clients to join your Space organization. However, please note that Space is a closed-system, meaning that all users need to be authorized to access Space and there currently is no way to publicly share information in Space. Otherwise, there are no other limitations for using it for your personal projects. Welcome to Space!


Patrox27

Hey, Spacefellas! I'm in the process of migrating our team from several apps into Space, but there's problem that comes from our team not being only software focused, but also having multiple engineering and marketing teams that are used to organizing their work using Kanban Boards in Trello. So far it seems that boards in Space are clearly focused for software development and lack various features for using it otherwise. Are there any plans on expanding Space's Boards to be able to act as full replacement for Trello?


anton_spilnyy

We plan to make Boards, like all of Space, useful not only for developers but also for other teams: marketing, HR, QA, etc. We are continuing to extend the functionality of Boards. What features are you missing most?


nek4life

Do you plan on having any sort of Outlook integration? I participated briefly in the EAP and tried it out with a couple team members, but there's no way we'd be able to pry Outlook away from the majority of the people in our organization.


MikhailVink

Yes, we will have an Outlook integration, as well as an integration for Google Calendar and one for general calendars via CalDav. Google Calendar is the first on the list (as we have already it implemented and are now dogfooding it inside JetBrains). It should be released publicly in the beginning of 2021, and then we'll be working on Outlook Calendar.


Weekly_Pickle47

Hi, there! Will Space's projects issues have a time tracking like in YouTrack?


maxim_mazin

Time tracking is one of the most common feature requests in our YouTrack: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SPACE-5832. We are going to add it to our backlog.


Mythen

Hey, Space looks realy nice, the only question i have is, when do you plan to release the Standalone version and are there any limitations to the Standalone version.


MikhailVink

Hi! We plan to release the Standalone version sometime in 2021. We plan to keep feature parity between Space Cloud and Space Standalone except in cases when thatā€™s not technically possible. So most of the features should make it into Space Standalone, with only some rare exceptions (we don't have a list for now, as it's all in development). Integration with some Cloud services exposed via Marketplace applications will be limited on Standalone, unless the vendor of these extensions provides some support for the on-premise version. There also could be some additional features in Standalone that originate from the deployment type and don't make sense in the Cloud deployment.


HubesMA

Hello! 1. Is there a company Wiki (not only for one project)? 2. Is there voice and video chat? 3. Is there UML or the opportunity to integrate some UML-Tools like StarUML? 4. Can I insert my private and company address in my profile? 5. Can I add subtasks to tasks, issues and checklists? 6. Is there a skill sheet for my skills in the user profile?


pavelboger

Hello and thanks for the questions! Here are the answers one by one: ​ >Is there a company Wiki (not only for one project)? We've moved the Knowledge base to the project level, as it seems it helps to arrange information in a more structured way. As for the organization-wide information, we have blogs and shared documents. ​ >Is there voice and video chat? Not at the moment, however, we have plans for adding integration with Google Meet in the future. ​ >Is there UML or the opportunity to integrate some UML-Tools like StarUML? We are not going to add UML tools into Space ourselves. But we will be adding more extensibility features to enable third-party developers to create such integrations. ​ >Can I insert my private and company address in my profile? Yes, you can add as many emails to your contact details as necessary: [https://www.jetbrains.com/help/space/your-profile.html#edit-your-profile](https://www.jetbrains.com/help/space/your-profile.html#edit-your-profile) ​ >Can I add subtasks to tasks, issues and checklists? You can have nested items in checklists, so each task may have sub-tasks. As for the adding sub-issues, it's one of the feature requests that we have on our roadmap. Please feel free to upvote: [https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SPACE-6018](https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SPACE-6018) ​ >Is there a skill sheet for my skills in the user profile? Yes, you can create additional fields in user profiles for custom information like skills, hobbies, etc.: [https://www.jetbrains.com/help/space/add-and-edit-custom-fields.html](https://www.jetbrains.com/help/space/add-and-edit-custom-fields.html)


gz_k

YouTrack proposes pricing based on team size (free for teams under 10). Why did you choose to set the plans based on features? Not having private project/repos in the free plan seems to be a big barrier to new users.


MikhailVink

YouTrack and Space are quite different tools, thus the pricing is different, so I don't think we can compare them feature by feature, as features would mean different things in different tools. For example, let's talk about a notion of private (project or repo). In YouTrack, a private project would be related to the visibility of the project/issues to the outside world (outside of your organization/closed circle). In Space, we are existing inside your Space organization, which means that a private project or repo means that your colleagues can't find/access it easily unless explicitly granted permissions, and it makes sense to have it in the pricing plans targeted at bigger teams and organizations. Non-private project in Space will be visible to your colleagues, but in no way would be visible to people outside of your organization, they have to be an organization member to get there. In terms of pricing differences between Space and YouTrack, there are a couple of key things we tried to incorporate into Space pricing with four pricing tiers: 1. An entry level plan that lets you grow usage of Space and doesn't limit you by the number of people, so that you can invite as many colleagues as you want, and start collaborating with them (that resulted in the Free plan with unlimited users, but limited features and resources). 2. Paid plans which are targeted at teams and organizations of different needs (that resulted in features split based on the needs of different teams and organizations. The higher the plan is, the more advanced the features are).


StylianosGakis

Hello! I am very impressed with what I've seen so far. This sounds like a perfect replacement for something like Basecamp, while doing even more. My question is, what is the idea about helping companies adopt Space? I wish I could suggest space as an alternative by showing everything that it can do better and how it will help us in our goals as a company. Any sort of training programs or any showcase on how it might be superior to alternatives would be great. Otherwise it's hard to convince a whole company to change the tool everyone will be using without good incentives. Is there any information around that already, and if not, what are tha plans for it? Thank you!


maartenba

Thank you! The vision for Space is indeed to combine and integrate many tools, out of the box. Regarding showcases, we have a series of customer stories up at [https://www.jetbrains.com/company/customers/experience/#product=space](https://www.jetbrains.com/company/customers/experience/#product=space). These may help demonstrate how others are using Space in various industries. Some leaflets and other materials are available at [https://www.jetbrains.com/space/resources/](https://www.jetbrains.com/space/resources/). We did a webinar back in May that covered many of the features in Space at a slightly slower pace than we did in the release video yesterday. If you're interested, the recording is available, along with a further Q&A, at [https://blog.jetbrains.com/space/2020/05/26/space-exploration-webinar-recording-and-qa-session/](https://blog.jetbrains.com/space/2020/05/26/space-exploration-webinar-recording-and-qa-session/). When it comes to training, we have several partners that can help you out. Let us know if youā€™re interested, and we can put you in touch with them.


jiupai

Hi, is there detail blog or YouTube video to show us how Space team use Kotlin to build whole stuff. Much appreciated


maartenba

There is! u/maxim_mazin did a presentation about some internals at KotlinConf, and the recording is available at [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnmHqKLgYY4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnmHqKLgYY4). We use Kotlin across our entire stack. The server-side is Kotlin, and all clients are, as well (web + JS frontend, IDE plugins, and the Android and iOS apps). We use Ktor, Exposed, Kotlin-react, and many other libraries. We definitely recommend checking out the video!


GitMoreBetter

Heey folks. I'm a huge fan of all your tools! I have a some small questions about notifications: Can I link a to-do inside Space to a specific Pull Request and automatically complete the to-do when the PR is merged? And if someone marks me as reviewer, will I be notified? As someone comming from Basecamp, is there a "zen mode" where all notifications are disabled?


Anton_Sukhonosenko

>Heey folks. I'm a huge fan of all your tools! Hi! Thank you! ​ >Can I link a to-do inside Space to a specific Pull Request and automatically complete the to-do when the PR is merged? No, it is not currently possible. If I understood your use-case correctly, it is solved by the separate code review widget on the main page, which lists all reviews needing your attention. ​ >And if someone marks me as reviewer, will I be notified? Yes, you will be notified in chat. If you're not reading this notification for some time (15 mins), you will also be notified by email.


Anton_Sukhonosenko

>As someone comming from Basecamp, is there a "zen mode" where all notifications are disabled? Yes, this is supported in chats with a single click. When you set "unavailable" mode it not only blocks notifications but also makes your status clear for everybody in your team.


StylianosGakis

Kind of a weird question, but I believe it's interesting to know, as using it alone at first would be the first stepping stone to say that one is familiar with Space and can safely recommend it for their work place with good arguments as to why. Is Space designed for single-person projects as well? What is the story there, why would someone who works solo on a project adopt Space?


serjic

We didn't have this use case in mind when we designed Space. But we also didn't do anything to prevent users from doing it. More over, our pricing model is designed in a way when paid features are mostly valuable for teams of several people. So most likely Free plan will work fine for your personal private organization.


DevSrSouza

Currently, there is any way to generate CI scripts from CircleCI configurations? To speed up to migration?


sedovalx

There are no migration plans from other CI/CD solutions at the moment. If there is a strong demand we may add such a generation for CircleCI at some point in the future.


DevSrSouza

There is any plan to support Windows and Mac VMs for building projects in the CI?


sedovalx

Yes. We are working on the external workers feature that will allow to connect VMs to a Space instance. The workers support include Linux, Windows, and Mac operation systems. We plan to support both cloud worker VMs that are managed by JetBrains and worker VMs managed by customers.


MrX101

Look I understand you designed this software for companies. But can you please replace the stupid "Login to company url" with an email + password login? It will make it a lot easier to convince friends to try using the software, when they can just easily try the basics of the software and see if they like the UI and so fourth. Also, while I know slack also does this, I don't get how the url system is secure at all. Makes far more sense to me, to be able to ban specific accounts. Or be able to invite people with accounts registered to a specific email.


maxim_mazin

Yeah, we plan to do this kind of thing. One will authorize with their email at [https://jetbrains.space](https://jetbrains.space/) and get a list of organizations they can get into.


mimi_the_kid

Space looks super awesome! can we have a public demo access to an example project like the space travel scenario, to test things out? That would be really helpful. Wouldnā€™t want to start with an empty project to try things.


serjic

It is not possible at the moment, we've been discussing providing such functionality but didn't find good technical solution yet.


achugr

Hi!Would it be possible to deploy not a multi-tenant installation of the Space to something like [AWS VPC](https://aws.amazon.com/vpc/) while still getting it as a SaaS? I may be missing something but looks like a trade-off between full SaaS and on-prem.


serjic

Good question! Indeed this would be a great compromise for those who would like to have benefits of both Saas and on-promise solution. But I'm not sure that we can provide you with automated updates without receiving monitoring results, logs etc. So most likely it will be possible to install Space to your AWS VPC, but you can hardly call it SaaS.


achugr

Monitoring results and logs regarding upgrade could be filtered from sensetive information. There are benefits mostly regarding infrastructure I think, so if you use some cloud services (from aws, gcloud, azure, whatever, I don't know) - it's not clear how this can be easily switched to on-prem where such services are not available. Well, you could replace S3 with [Minio](https://min.io/), because Minio represents S3 API, but they behave differently and this might be a problem for development and maintenance. And if you already use cloud services and then just run single-tenant instance but on the same infrastructure - this makes things easier, I think.


plottersdev

Hey Space Team, Very nice tool you have been working on! My question for you is: **Do you plan to use "Compose for Desktop" for upcoming Space client applications?** This would be a huge improvement over Electron apps.


serjic

We don't have specific plans for that. But we started working on the prototype and it looks very promising and we are happy with both developer experience and the resulting application. Hope to make it available for beta testers next year.


plottersdev

Thanks that is good to hear. Do you plan to open source the application?


serjic

Not sure, it would mean to open source of almost all Space modules because it is all Kotlin MPP =)


mehcode

I'd like to know if there is any plans for guest or external access to projects.


maxim_mazin

There is a rather popular feature request in YouTrack [https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SPACE-5844](https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/SPACE-5844). We will add some support for this in the future.


xambey

1. The documentation section was shown in the recent release video, it looks very simple, are there any plans for improvement? So far, confluence looks better against its background. 2. Does Space have a work calendar (project tasks, writing off working hours, etc.) for the employee and if not, when is it planned? (Sort of like Jira) 3. Your chat is very similar to telegram chat, are there any plans for integration?


serjic

We have lots of plans to improve documents, please share what you miss most! Work calendar is not implemented yet, but we have it in our plans. We consider our chats self-sufficient and we don't have plans to integrate with any other messengers.


achugr

Are you going to introduce something for team/personal effectiveness and health measurements? Since you basically have all the work-releated data there are many options starting from personal advices regarding effectiveness (like too many meetings etc), personal surveys about engagement and ending with measuring code churn etc. But without going [too far](https://twitter.com/WolfieChristl/status/1331221942850949121). The question is where is the balance, but definitely sounds like a future of the workforce.


MikhailVink

That is a very interesting direction, and I agree that it is very easy to go too far here. We need to find a balance if we decide to approach it. I personally believe that there are a lot of things that can be done here without crossing the line (incl. personal recommendations about meetings duration and quantity, and other things). In that way, we would focus it around sharing "safe" information with the user themselves, rather than providing data like that to the manager/HR. So yeah, we need to look into it, but very slowly and assessing all the risks - it's a very sensitive space. Apart from the major ethical concerns, we need to be sure about all the local rules and regulations, too.