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Well, IMO a lot of CT’s are kind of lame it just depends how you use them. Think Todo and boogie Woogie, I mean his cursed technique is literally just swapping places with someone (how he uses it is so cool though!!)
I feel like the problem with Yuki is that we only saw her fight once!! I do agree though that the concept of Star range is kinda lame compared to the others (mass vs copy or spirit manipulation) I feel like more people would have liked it if we saw it in different situations. I also think she was kind of holding back in the Kenny fight as to not waste so much cursed energy, like how she didn’t use her domain expansion 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
At first she didn't use her domain cause they had a plan with Tengen.
After Tengen destroyed the Sunayata barrier to undo Kenny's open domain,she didn't use DE immediately cause her hand was broken and she went into offence instead of healing because of Kenny's burnt out period.
Also if we assume Kenny can do DE at least two times,Yuki would lose more devastatingly cause her DE wouldn't last against an open domain and she would go into burnt out period,so she would be killed more easily by Kenny.Even before Tengen destroyed the barrier of Kenny's domain,Yuki's domain would be destroyed.
Basically she had no chance against Kenny.Even Yuta couldn't defeat Kenny in a head to head battle and he had to sneak by bush-camping.
just because its an open domain doesnt mean its an auto win button. the sorcerer needs to match/outdo the refinement of the sure hit first. if an open domain just gave you a win, kenjaku wouldn't be so shit piss scared of gojo all the time. who knows if yuki and yuta can match kenjakus domain
Bruh the radius of the open domain is bigger than a normal close domain.
The refinement part will be applied only to the part that was inside the close domain.But the outside will still stay there to destroy the barrier of a close domain.
Gojo>>Kenny because Gojo can do multiple DE at a time and he probably can defeat Kenjaku in his own domain with full RCT and Gojo has never ending CE.So Kenny is afraid of Gojo.No matter how much longer Kenny stays alive against Gojo,Kenny will lose anyway.Gojo can just speed blitz him probably before Kenny does anything lol.
>The refinement part will be applied only to the part that was inside the close domain.But the outside will still stay there to destroy the barrier of a close domain.
You're misunderstanding domain battles. The only reason Sukuna broke Gojo's domain from the outside was because their **sure-hits were equal**. If Gojo's sure-hit is superior to Kenjaku's, he automatically wins the domain battle and Kenjaku's domain won't be able to break Gojo's barrier from the outside because it'll be destroyed before it can do that.
That's not necessarily the case.
In a normal domain, both sure-hits are disabled while the tug of war is going on, this is seen by Megumi's intrusion in Dagon's domain disabling the sure-hit even though Megumi's actual shadow-covered territory was only a fairly small section of Dagon's domain.
In the Gojo/Sukuna battle it's explicitly pointed out that instead of the above interactions, the sure-hits are instead overlapping and canceling each other out, and if the sure-hit of domain A would be turned off in a given area, the sure-hit of B would start working. This is very different from how domain battles normally work.
It's possible that even if an open domain would lose in refinement, it still wouldn't collapse immediately, and its sure-hit outside of the closed domain would still work.
Granted this isn't very relevant in the case of Gojo since his sure-hit would win the fight immediately if allowed to hit Kenjaku. On the other hand, I'm not so sure that Gojo's refinement is better than Kenjaku's, who's spent thousands of years working with barriers.
Do you guys understand simple logic or not?
The close domain is a different space that only can cancel the part of a open domain in terms of refinement.
But it is not covering the outer part,so the outer part will destroy the barrier of the close domain.
But if the open domain’s refinement is worse then the user would’ve been hit by their opponent’s sure hit since their sure hit doesn’t cancel the opponent’s which will make their domain collapse. Open domain will only give you an advantage if your refinement is the same as the opponent’s, otherwise it won’t matter much.
I think you’re the one refusing to understand simple logic. There are no separate ‘parts’ in a domain battle, the one who loses the tug of war of sure-hits loses the domain battle, regardless of whether it’s an open or closed barrier. Gojo’s and Sukuna’s situation is unique only because their tug of war was completely equal.
If Sukuna lost the tug of war, his ENTIRE domain crumbles, not just the part within Gojo’s barrier.
Yes and No, we see from sukuna vs gojo that you can reverse it so your outer domain is stronger. The rules of domain are really just about how creative you can get, but it sure is difficult as kakusabe mentioned to just change the rules on the fly so as to get the advantage over your opponent. In fact Gojo feat of shrinking the domain is even more impressive than an open domain, which is based of his experience in the prison realm. Also tengen being so damn good should be able to dismantle any domain if she has enough time to work on it. the whole place she was in in the first place is already a domain on its own anyways.
Do you know that Sukuna wasn't breaking Gojo's basketball sized domain purposefully lol?and Gojo himself stated that inside the battle.
The small domain that Gojo used had the weaker side inside i.e the reverse barrier condition and Mahoraga broke it with one tap.So Sukuna could have broken the small domain anytime with Dismantle or Fuga or binding vow.But he didn't do it for Mahoraga's adaptation.
Sukuna also made his domain as small as Gojo to increase the output density,so it doesn't matter.
Open domains are stronger than Close domain anytime.
Kenny can do HWB to negate UV in that miniscule time when the domain will break.
Open domains are fucking broken.It's a divine technique according to the narrator.
Gojo can defeat Kenny easily,but don't disrespect Kenny's knowledge.
Refinement was the same there though, Kenny here would immediately have to protect himself with HWB to avoid being hit with UV, unless you want to argue he has better refinement or equal to Gojo, unless that's the case, he would need to cast HWB before UV hit.
>The refinement part will be applied only to the part that was inside the close domain.
if your domain is less refined it will crumble, having an open domain doesn't matter if it gets destroyed in an instant.
sukuna managed to destroy the barrier because their domains were not able to overtake each other, kenny can't do that.
Gojo could literally stand there and not be bothered by his domain, just waiting for it to end or just kill him while it's active.
Yuki explicitly wasn't sure she could win a tug of war. Kenjaku is top 3 in barrier techniques, ever. Even if it wasn't open, she'd struggle. But because it was open, she'd have lost automatically.
They need to reverse it, we see from sukuna vs gojo that gojo domain lost because while they are as strong, the outside is weak and open domain can hit from the outside. Their next domain clash had gojo reversing the outside being strong. Well they eventually played around further with the rules one upping each other until maho came along but the theory is there. If your simple domain is strong you can even beat kenny's domain open or not, you just have to be skillgap him by that much which is pretty much impossible.
Tengen is the best example, being so experienced he was able to dismantle even an open domain which ill say is a pretty sick feat, only problem is that she was so damn fucking slow at it. but thats also because she wasnt expecting it and had to layer an additional domain to form a basis so as to dismantle kennys.
Kenny did actually say himself that Yuki would have a better chance if she used her own DE instead of going with Tengen's plan. Tengen sold :(
Even if she still loses in the end, I would've liked to see her DE.
Kenny said the result wouldn't have been that boring,he never said about a better chance.
Yuki's domain may be Yoruzu type where she used her Shikigami Garuda as a sure hit.
Tbh I kinda don't think Kenny's open domain is an automatic win button, specifically with yuta. Gravity is the CT he originally applied to the domain and if we assume that Kenny and yuta both use their domain at once, I'm not sure gravity could penetrate yutas barrier. Sukunas open domain is super powerful because cleave and dismantle are super powerful in terms of head on attacks.
Correct me if I'm wrong here but gravity isn't that offensively power ful from what I can tell. Also yuta has a major advantage which is Rika. While she can't break an open domain, she can fight alongside yuta against Kenny, and actually provide an issue. Especially since, if it gets desperate, she can summon love beam. Also yuta has shown that he's faster than kenjaku, so he could theoretically speed blitz him.
I think the reason why they sent in takaba to fight Kenny was first off, that takaba had an unorthodox technique with next to no counters, and secondly, because yuta was extremely important to the sukuna plan.
Outside of domain, yutas honestly much better. Csm is no issue for him cause we already saw Rika pretty much destroy all the cursed spirits Kenny released, and his speed and stronger stats should allow him to get the W.
Gravity being not super powerful doesn't matter cause the outside barrier of a domain is weak.So it will fall in some seconds and Yuta will run into burnt out period.
>yuta has shown that he's faster than kenjaku
I don't think so.It only happened because of Takaba.My headcanon is that Kenny lost the control over Geto's body because of Takaba's soul resonance doing damage to Kenny's soul.
Kenny knows DA which would nullify most techniques of Yuta.Kenny was the best barrier user,so he could do different things with his domain barrier+he could do simple domain and HWB.
Kenny has Uzumaki+antigravity+gravity.Without any doubt Kenny is the 3rd strongest in the verse.
Kenny defeated Takaba with comedy,he destroyed the jumping of Yuki , Choso and Tengen.
Kenny is him.Kenny is the most cunning character in the verse.Yuta is not defeating him.
I mean, Kenjaku is stated to be the 2nd best barrier user in the entire series. He arguably has an even more refined domain than even Sukuna and Gojo. Tengen basically told Yuki that she stood no chance if she opened her domain and told Yuki to follow her plan because of it. Yuta is definitely not winning in a domain clash against the guy with the most refined domain in the series that also happens to be open. He literally tore Yuki's simple domain to shreds like it was wet paper.
Also, there's a lot that points to that Kenjaku used CSM in his domain. There was a very good twitter thread about it recently. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: [Found it](https://twitter.com/kostivedae/status/1775185991818465599?t=CjuYIqkVLqoFNUnfmWAClQ&s=19)
There is not a lot that points to the sure hit being CSM, and that thread goes from talking about themes to just making stuff up. They claimed Maki's twisted limb in 0 was perhaps Geto using CSM directly on her body. Why would he even use cursed spirits on humans if he can just crush them?
It also presumes because the technique itself doesn't crush the floor, that just mean the domain doing that is an inconsistency. The entire point of the domain is to enhance the technique.
I don't buy the theory at all that it's Geto's domain. It can easily be Yuji's mom's but the appearance changed because a Domain Expansion basically shows the soul and its Kenjaku's.
I think you should read again.When she healed her hand,we got a reveal that Kenjaku already healed his CT burnt out.This means that he knows how to recover burnt out CT faster similar to Gojo.
Of course he knows man.Kenjaku is a 1000 year old sorcerer and he could do DE at least twice probably.If Yuki expanded her domain,then Kenjaku would have too.
And Yuki thought that she would win with just H2H,but lost cause she was a researcher not a skilled fighter.
Anyway he fought 3 vs 1 and he still won.
Nah Yuta could definitely beat Kenjaku. The point of the sneak attack was 1. To minimize damage and 2. To end the fight as quickly and efficiently as possible so Yuta could return to fight Sukuna immediately and not have Yuta be tired and injured. Pretty sure Kenjaku openly acknowledges the fact that he would lose to Yuta on a couple occasions with little things he said here and there. Dude seemed like he was kinda scared of him tbh. The fact that he had already beaten the body he was using and its cursed technique seemed to add to the fact that he thought he would lose. Kenny is strong for sure but he’s more of a Machiavellian than an all powerful badass
No she didn't use her domain because they wanted kenny to open his and have tengen undo the barrier and jumped kenny while his technique was recovering, mass was pretty boring tho ngl
I think it’s funny you bring up Higuruma because I feel like him and Hakari both don’t have the most entertaining abilities. They’re fun to read the first fight but not something you’d wanna see multiple fights of
Yeah, Higgy def has a monster of the week type power.
In a different manga he would be a one off mid-arc villain where the hero uses some loophole in the Japanese legal system to defeat him.
I think hakari suffers from the fact that he hadn't really developed any cool looking offensive power with jackpot mode. Like I'm imaging giant blasts if rct aimed at his opponents or some shit like mechamarus ultimate canon.
I think his real problem is his power isn't fleshed out. He shouldn't have a cannon. We've seen that three times already. Ryu, Rika, and Kashimo all do some variation of giant energy cannon. What he needs is other prizes besides the Jackpot. I don't know the series his CT is based on, but interesting lesser prizes would have kept him dynamic. Making him choose between going for skill plays on lesser prizes or going for broke on the jackpot would have given his fights depth.
His ability is based on pachinko machine, and the lesser prizes in hakari's case is a higher chance of jackpot until he hit jackpot, which is kinda similar in my experience to real life pachinko, though I only played it a little bit when I went there.
Yuji straight up didn't have a technique until recently yet his fights were still exciting to read. You don't need a flashy power if the fight itself is engineered well. See Jojo for example, Jotaro's power is punching really hard and extending two fingers yet he still has great fights
this is what I came to say, everything about yuki was actually cool, including her going out, but gege somehow made kenny live just to die in a worse way
it's actually really hard for me not to get annoyed thinking about it only because yuki is probably one of the coolest characters in the series for me
greg the motherfuckin egg is trolling sometimes
Fuga wasn’t a counter, it was a downright nerf.
In the scan where Gege comments on Hanami’s durability, he mentions how Jogo would beat Hanami due to “elemental advantages”.
This strongly implies that Jogo is weak to water and strong to fire.
Sukuna just was so strong with his fire that he one shotted him anyways.
Sukuna's character has mainly been about flexing on how much stronger he is than everyone then being the number 1 Yuji hater then being the main villain of the series (next to Gege)
I was referring to pulling out a technique out of nowhere that you haven't used or shown before, aka the "haven't used it since the heian era" meme. I agree that it would probably be easier to kill Jogo without Fuga.
It's really disappointing that Yuki not only died in her first fight but lost in such an uncreative way. Gege couldn't think of anything more interesting than The Backshotted One having the exact perfect counter to her kit?
If sukuna got hit by a 200% hollow purple directly ans in a way that covered is whole body and then went something like "ahhh I simply had the ability to slash myself into infinite pieces and reform myself which is a perfect counter to your hollow purple" I would implode
I mean, she's so strong that you can't fight her H2H. She could potentially beat literally every single character besides Gojo and Sukuna (obv she lost to Kenjaku but they're in the same tier). In fact, if she was with the gang fighting Sukuna now, the series would've ended 10 chapters ago. That's strong as hell.
With that said I thought her ability would've let her add gravity to her shikigami and pull people in like blue or something. Or make others weigh way more when they get hit...something, anything. Gege wasn't very creative with her.
I agree gege could have been more creative but it's worth noting the mass required to cause an effect like blue would be planetary, the kind of thing she had to kill herself to achieve. Not to mention if you're generating mass in the order of planets, sucking stuff in with the corresponding gravity would be the least destructive thing you could do. The gravity wouldn't work in just one direction, she would have created a virtual planet right on top of ours with all the repercussions that come with it. The only reason the blackhole didn't tear up the earth was because her control and will were insane
>I agree gege could have been more creative but it's worth noting the mass required to cause an effect like blue would be planetary, the kind of thing she had to kill herself to achieve.
That's not true at all, the difference in mass between a black hole + planetary level gravity is hundreds of orders of magnitude.
>The only reason the blackhole didn't tear up the earth was because her control and will were insane
Well...yes, that's the point
This is hypothetical, her ability can't do what I mentioned. But Gege easily could've written it so if he wanted to
>That's not true at all, the difference in mass between a black hole + planetary level gravity is hundreds of orders of magnitude.
This also isn't true. The mass of a black hole is completely arbitrary. It's the _density_ that's the problem. Her technique can increase mass WITHOUT affecting density up to a certain point. But when it _does_ affect density, it creates a black hole because the radius of her body is too small. She collapses in on herself, which causes her to achieve infinite density. This would happen even worse with Garuda since it has a smaller radius when balled up. It would be like dropping a planet on the Earth, which would crash all the way into the core and cause it to collapse.
The second paragraph says it all for me. She was right with her last words, there's three things with which you gotta be very careful: time, space and mass.
If Gege had any semblance of a knowledge of physics, he'd have given her power more limitations because she could be just as broken as Gojo except that the applications that were given to her CT were ass so she was much weaker than she could've been.
Gege used her very poorly. But Star Rage, a CT that can virtually one shot everyone in the verse, is something that we would expect from a Special Grade Sorcerer
Sometimes simplicity is damn strong. She's easily one of the best physical fighters and one of the best anti-spirit sorcerers thanks to Garuda according to Kenny. The fact that she's special grade I think it's safe to assume Garuda ignores most techniques.
Its coolness wore off because we see Kenjaku start tanking it. If every hit took off limbs like the first one did people would think it’s a lot cooler. I also think it’d be better if we knew more about what kind of techniques she can avoid, I remember when the leaks for it first came out everyone talked about how many techniques are “concepts” therefore she could negate them and no one has those convos anymore
She just doesn't get enough fights. She can use reverse cursed energy to heal. Enough fights could have shown us that she can lighten her mass with RCT to the point she's hyper-fast like on past worth Gojo teleporting fast. She has domain expansion and we never saw it. And her best move was countered by the bad guy randomly having the exact power needed to beat it.
Why do people keep saying this power was random? It was anti-gravity. Yes, it being the regular state of his technique was a reveal, but it was already something everybody would've assumed he could do literally the moment gravity was introduced.
Here's the thing:
He didn't know Yuki's technique.
He basically randomly chose Yuji's mother as a host.
Him having a one-in-a-million perfect counter to an insta-kill just to die moments later anyway is a stupid level of contrivance.
>Is there something I'm missing?
The literal black hole she summoned...Also the fact she is immune to the effects of curse spirits because of her mASS is too heavy.
I know about the black hole I just think the fact it kills her is lame. If I remember correctly she's not immune to curses but rather her technique adds so much mass to her it screws with single target powers. An aoe or indiscriminate attack would hit her just fine.
She would just one/ two punch any aoe ( jogo ) or “indiscriminate” attacker ( maki ). It takes just one opening, she has the speed and the domain to make up for not being “ a long range fighter “ which she kinda is tho with garuda
I think it’s cool as hell, personally. It’s not just punching hard, I honestly kind of see Ryu’s technique as mostly that, just big power. Guess that one has a cannon on top too. This kind of goes way beyond “punches hard”, though.
I think it’s difficult to realize that Yuki only ever hit Kenjaku with an actual full powered Star Rage like once, and it smashed his limbs to pieces. Kenjaku was smart enough to realize; I literally cannot fight with this woman in melee range, and he immediately opens his domain. From that point on, her Star Rage is reduced in efficacy until the very end, and then he slips by her with the mini Uzumaki. So you’ve only ever seen Star Rage in action against the one person she fought in a very limited manner, because if Kenjaku didn’t go so hard with the open barrier domain pretty much right away, he very well could’ve lost.
If Yuki and Ryu punch each other with everything both of them have, Ryu’s arm would be the one that is severely messed up and injured, imo. The level of difference in power is vast, due to Star Rage’s actual functionality. Plus like you said, it’s a great defensive technique. I’m pretty sure even Uraume wouldn’t be able to do much in terms of freezing her, since Yuki would still be able to move with the mass of a building or mountain to break through the ice. Add in Garuda and how he can be used as a Shikigami or as a cursed tool with Star Rage, and can even be used after a domain expansion (Yuki says it gives her an advantage in a situation of CT burnout), and she’s got a pretty good package imo
It's not unlimited, even if we didn't see a black hole form eventually from too much mass, techniques cost CT to use. She literally couldn't hit an infinite mass punch if she wanted to. I think completely shattering his defense in one hit and forcing one of the biggest asspulls in the story is good enough for me
The USP of Yuki’s CT is virtual mass, not making things “hit very hard”. Virtual mass allows her to negate many constructs in curse techniques, allowing it to ignore physical concepts as the mass lies on an imaginary plane, making it impossible to defend. It’s a mini pseudo reality manipulation in a sense as her power is literally not “reality”, but imaginary/ virtual.
The fact that the targeting of techniques going haywire was a direct effect of increased mass instead of it just having that effect separately is awesome as it implies like literal astronomical amounts of weight especially with the name Star Rage
But of course somehow Kenny didn't become red mist from one punch so it just felt like a mild stat boost
Yuki's technique is one of the coolest techniques imo. The concept is amazing, and even though we didn't get to see much of her the stuff we saw was pretty cool.
The idea of "virtual mass" is insanely dope. Like, imagine fighting her without knowing her ability. She could lightly tap you and you'd be hit with the force of a missile. It's so insane.
And the dynamic she has with Garuda is so fucking cool. Being able to change its virtual mass makes for some really dope combos (which we actually saw her do).
Sure, the applications/uses of the cursed technique are simple—buff yourself so you can punch and kick harder. But the *how* she does it is really frikin cool.
I think you were just expecting some super complex and creative ability, something unique, bizarre and OP. Not all techniques have to be that way, if they were we'd be getting Hakari-like explanations for every single random sorcerer of the week.
The only thing lame about it is the name. "Star rage" just sounds cringe. I wish they'd kept "Bom ba ye" as its name. It had way more character and just over all fit Yuki better
The concept is perfectly fine. It's just stupid that all Gege could think to do with it was "punch good."
It's a result of the author misusing Yuki IN GENERAL, not her technique conceptually. For instance, just tweaking it so it would work on other targets opens up many possibilities.
Spitballing other uses of mass increase:
- Weighing an opponent down so they can't move.
- Collapsing structures by selectively weighing down parts of them.
- Increasing your durability, since objects now need to impart more force onto you to move your tissue and thus damage it.
- Applying reversal to make yourself virtually massless and able to move at high speeds.
She puts it on her rope-shaped shikigami to use other strategies.
Also, your suggestions are contradictory. If she could increase her durability, which _is_ something Gege thought about and explicitly mentions, then she'd weigh more. It would slow her down and wouldn't actually provide the advantages she uses. It would also mean that decreasing her mass wouldn't make her move faster, it would make her a floating target that could be torn like paper. Air currents would be enough to toss her off course.
She uses Garuda to restrict people already. She can collapse structures by just throwing Garuda at them. If we use RPG logic, which Gege uses a lot to explain the universe, she's a fighter. She throws quick, strong attacks that deal huge DPS. If we're going to imagine new powers, you can't do that by imagining a new character. Because, as with Megumi, the way the technique is used is directly tied to the actual character. Gege is not just imagining all the ways an ability could be used.
That's lame. That's really lame. Gege CAN do whatever he wants - this is all made up, and it frankly doesn't make much sense anyways.
Nothing I said operates on any more cartoon logic than whatever the fuck is going on with the comedian dude.
I think the issue with Star Rage was that it's either too powerful or kinda lame.
It's even a little inconsistent how it works, Gege had to make it so changing mass doesn't change Yuki's sturdiness because otherwise it would be too powerful (just make yourself weigh 10 tons, then any attack would have to be strong enough to move that much mass to even make you feel it).
The issue with this is that from the point of view of physics, it doesn't matter if Yuki is the one punching A or A punching her, in either case A should think Yuki has extremely high mass, so their flesh (or cursed energy beam) should mostly leave Yuki's body unchanged.
Anyway, due to being able to turn herself into a black hole she still achieves the qualifications for Special Grade, she's the sorcerer with the highest potential for mass destruction we've seen in the series, just a shame that it's a suicide move.
Facts, I remember Kenjaku saying she must have a high output extension technique, but nah she did absolutely nothing. It’s actually crazy how mediocre her CT is. Everyone in JJK has extension techniques, but Yuki just punches hard…
Gojo has Infinity, Blue, Red, Purple
Sukuna has Cleave, Dismantle, spiderweb Cleave and
now world slash
Kenjaku has gravity, anti-gravity, Uzumaki…
Reducing her CT to “punches hard” is a huge misreading of what the CT actually does and the potential it has.
Yuki can increase *or* decrease the mass of herself, with Garuda as an extension. Gege went through the trouble of explaining the ability, but as everyone else said, he just didn’t give her the chance to actually shine.
Decreasing mass to gain speed and momentum, then increasing it to gain explosive power can be a crazy effective ability to exploit. If she can infinitely increase mass and create a black hole, doing something like hitting Garuda and targeting the ground, giving it with as much mass as the meteor that wiped the fucking dinosaurs out, would be doable and pretty fucking impressive if you ask me.
I actually kind of love her ability mainly because it’s so simple.
I think when making a superpowered character the instinct is to give them a very complex ability. Gojo is a good example as Limitless gives him a forcefield, gravity manipulation (basically), teleportation, and a massive energy blast. Geto and Yuta have techniques that are simple to understand but give them a huge amount of moves at their disposal to use in a ton of ways.
Yuki (and Sukuna as well) by contrast have incredibly simple abilities that become special grade level due not to the technique itself but the huge cursed energy stores behind it. On face, “hit hard” or “cut” shouldn’t be a crazy ability so seeing how those abilities can rise to the level of Kenjaku or Gojo is a really fun contrast for me
Lame is pretending that kenjaku ain’t one of the top three best sorcerers out there with massive cursed reserves of energy and crazy good RCT usage. Dense are those illiterate ppl that can’t read between the lines…
Coolest power in the series wasted by a lame ass fight with a straight ass pull counter so she can’t even show off other than ONE PUNCH and a death bomb
I mean yeah ? That's just having stronger punches and kick. Something like Higuruma CT is not even close in term of power but it's so much more fun.
Hell what's the point of having strong punches and kicks if Ken can just tank them and heal them no problem.
Sure, but the attack itself has the highest AP in the series. It will instantly kill you with no way to come back. It being hard to pull off doesn't matter here.
The concept itself is what makes it fun, atleast for me. higurumas CT is fun as hell but it’s still essentially just a “game” him and his opponent are forced to play. Yukis CT is badass but it didn’t get a lot of room to shine, it could’ve been so cool.
If she could have done cool shit like dropping from a high places like a meteor or sink someone in the sea with her shikigami, it would have been a lot cooler. As far as we saw, she only punched and kicked and we didn't even get to see her domain.
I think the basis of star rage is amplifying her force by increasing her mass but since Force=mass X acceleration I think it would've been cooler if she could also control her acceleration allowing her to rapidly change direction and speed by applying acceleration in different directions. But this would kinda just completely counter gravity/anti gravity so plot reasons here.
Nah. Virtual mass is pretty cool. Especially in the way it can ignore the concepts of other people cursed techniques. And in tandem with Garuda it is pretty versatile.
Have you studied physics? Gojo's technique also seems really lame when if you only read about it but he applied it very carefully and it's insane. If you only saw him defending with it it'd be pretty meh.
I think the main issue is that it's so OP she never had to make an effort tbh. If you really think about it, she destroyed a Special Grade spirit with a kick. She's kind of a meathead so she probably didn't train much with it and focused on her investigation, but, to me, having control over mass is so insane that it's a shame she was so carefree with it.
One issue could be that Gege just didn't have any knowledge about mass, but, as far as what one can do with mass, it's just as broken as what one could do with space as Gojo does. Her technique is nearly on the level of limitless and the only thing that makes her weaker than Gojo would be that she doesn't have the six eyes and the benefits that come with it. But that only makes her technique more interesting because she can still use and abuse her broken CT.
To give you an example of how much of a fool she is by using it with punches (tho it's actually Gege who doesnt know any better), she wouldn't even have to give her kicks any effort. As counterintuitive as it sounds, any acceleration that her muscles could create, would be entirely unnoticeable in comparison to the acceleration the extra weight she'd put could give.
She doesn't even need a cursed object to apply her technique to, just her having mass already affects everything she touches, so her having, say, a bunch of little pebbles, could gmdo enough damage to decimate a whole city. Even if we're told it's "virtual mass", whatever that means, the fact that her punching stuff does massive damage means that her throwing stuff would too because no matter how virtual her mass is she has an effect in the real world.
Just like how Gojo's powers are improperly used because Gege is ignorant of basic physics, so are Yuki's. Gege is a fucking fool and you should rethink your opinion of her because Kenjaku won because he's insane and, tbh, he shouldn't have by any metrics if we take her powers into account 😅
The kenjaku yuki fight is so stupid.. if he had used the anti-gravity technique after the fight, it wouldn't have been such a plot device, but now he's dead and it was just an asspull to counter her
The problem was her only having a single fight. Imagine we got her fighting a horde of spirits first to tenderize her a bit. We'd see her tossing rocks like bullets and they weigh 1000lbs each, punching curses into just gore like the doom slayer, grabbing a curse by the head and making them weigh so much they crush to death on the floor, more from Garuda and their fighting style. Also I think simple, borderline semantic powers are the most interesting. You mention Gojo, his entire shtick is just "what if you made infinity real" but it's used creatively and with great spectacle so that simplicity works well
It might not be that interesting or unique but it's extremely powerful. She controls a force of the universe that could either launch her victims away or crush them.
Melee wise she's dangerous b/c she can basically generate infinite force. I'm sure we could've seen more interesting uses of it had she stayed around
My understanding is “virtual mass” allows Yuki to increase the damage dealt to an infinite degrwithin sacrificing her own maneuverability and abilities. If you can switch a stick but increase the mass to match a sledgehammer, the impact will be stronger than either.
I disagree i did some calculations regarding her ability in a post a while Ago but ill keep it brief
Yukis technique SHOULD be the most destructive/powerfull technique in the series outside of hax like infinity and comedian.
If yuki could punch with just a trillionth of the mass of her black hole it would be a punch with the mass of 25 mount everests, just to give a better perspective of how much this is,
this is 395,000,000,0 tons, the eiffel tower weighs 10100 tons, so her punch would have the mass of 391,089 eiffel towers. she should have been able to oneshot sukuna with a fingerflick thousands of times over.
She got done dirty by plotarmor
It definitely is a technique worthy of the special grade. Assigning mass to herself or her shikigami is already really strong. I think what we never got was the multitude of applications this technique may have as well as its domain expansion (which she was said to be able to use but didn't use because it would burn her out of her CT for a while in the fight).
But thinking about how Domain Expansions work, it might be possible for her to assign mass to other points within her domain which, coupled with a sure-hit effect, would also result in a sure kill. Turning your opponent into a singularity of mass is not something anyone can recover from. Biggest issue for her, even if she had pulled that vs Kenny, is that Kenny literally had the biggest uno-reverse for her, the anti-gravity technique.
I kinda agree. I really wanted her technique to be tsukumogami stuff. fits the special grade criteria perfectly and with her name. So when it was revealed she was another punch and kick merchant I was kinda disappointed
It's just simple. We learned early on some techniques are complex and some are simple. The simple ones are good because there is no built in secret to stop it. You know how it works right away but that doesn't help.
Something like Higuruma's technique is complex which makes it strong naturally without training but quickly there are holes in the technique that can be used against it.
I know she probably cant but Imagine being hit by a punch with the weight of the sun. And most ct are lame when you put it like that. Hakari? Just roll and get a boost when you get a jackpot. Higuruma? Just the law system. Megumi? Basic summoning magic. Todo? Switch place. Sukuna? Cut things and fire. Jogo? Fire magic. Hanami? Nature magic. Dagon? Water and fish magic ect...
One thing I really dislike on JJK is the majority of cursed techniques are "I punch harder and faster" Miguel being the new addition to the collection. I would like to get more sorcery on these sorcerers fights
It's worth noting that special grade designation is about the destructive potential of said cursed technique rather than necessarily the quality of the sorcerer. We hear that Yuki is not particularly involved with the Jujutsu world and her resentment toward Tengen would make learning Japanese sorcery techniques especially unpleasant given their reliance on Tengen's barriers. It's likely that Yuki's base technique is what gave her the designation and her lack of imagination, training, and support from other sorcerers limited her ability to effectively apply the technique.
Even the hereditary techniques of the big 3 families are fairly unimpressive on their own, but the knowledge and mastery of how to apply them very specifically to create effects is what makes them so strong. Yuki doesn't seem to have had any predecessors, we don't know what makes one a Star Plasma Vessel exactly, nor is it clear that anyone else has a technique like hers in use. I think you're right to call her application of the technique fairly lame, but the question of "could this person destroy the world?" is an easy "yes" for Yuki no matter how unimpressive her knowledge of sorcery is otherwise.
It would be fair to say that if Yuki were rated on her sorcery skills alone, she probably would be a 2nd sorcerer. That she can create a black hole at will makes her destructive potential special grade.
Star rage is awesome, it’s implied Yuki had a chance against Kenjaku if she relied only on her own strength and used her Domain. Tengen dropped the ball on her.
It's more just the portrayal of Yuki's cursed technique is lame. Imagine if Yuki went storming through entire CITIES, which based her technique, she SHOULD able to maintain with ease. Imagine that the mass itself is quantified EXPONENTIALLY, so as she leaps high enough to crash back down with that force, the blast impact is THAT much more a show of terrible force. Imagine her crashing down with at least TWICE the force of Jogo's own meteorite, except SHE can move as fast as she wants all the while, or at least build up speed that exponentially rails up, jetting through skyscrapers like she's a mini-omni-man lmao. Point is? her technique didn't get the showings it deserved. Because gege hoed her.
I'd say sleeping on Yuki, but given how Gege portrayed her and what she showed I feel she's more lame than her CT. Her CT is pretty broken, but felt like she didn't show as much refinement or applications outside of her trump card which is just self destructive.
To be fair, Yuki can hit ***really*** hard.
*Virtual mass* is, as its name suggests, "virtual",—completely incorporeal,—meaning she can stack possibly hundreds of tons onto her body without affecting her density, increasing her strength practically infinitely up until she *literally collapses into a black hole*. The mass he creates is so heavy, so powerful that not even the Special Grade Ganesha could contain Garuda within the **concept** of "obstacle".
Bro can manipulate mass. Its like saying “Limitless is kinda lame” because all it can do is push, pull and remove things. Its ultimately the usage that makes a CT cool.
To use a power like "mass" to it's full extent, you need to be a scientific genius or just be decent to excellent at science and maths.
I reckon the reverse of her technique would be negative mass, wich is also very complicated and can do a whole lotta thing including some of the stuff Gojo does
She fought a guy that had the perfect techniques to counter her
For me personally, because it defies physics like Infinity is what makes Star Rage special grade.
Especially the one time use black hole.
If Yuki and Tengen didn't restrict it, it would have destroyed earth.
It is definitely basic in how it can be applied, though I'd say there's some decent depth with the shikigami. But the technique itself is a really cool idea imo, and extremely powerful as yuki well showed.
I feel like a technique like that would require a lot of skill/be very difficult to use kind of like limitless, not as much but to mess with the mass of something you have to be big brain asf so you don’t accidentally kill yourself
Sometimes simple and powerful is better than a diverse arsenal. She showed that throwing high level curses on her is practically meaningless no matter how broken their technique is. She just punches through them with overwhelming force. Her raw power is practically unrivaled bar Gojo and Sukuna.
I don't know dude, IMO nigh unlimited mass with basically no restrictions sounds really broken to me and the fact that it has another medium besides you which you inflict on them too
Your 🧠 is missing… jk. Yuki’s mass makes her invulnerable to literally everything geto had under his thumb, literally useless against her. Her punches cannot be countered easily, kenjaku literally expanded his domain after being hit by her because otherwise it would be nearly impossible to fight her without getting wrecked.
Yuki had enormous reserves of cursed energy just by being a special grade and being able to operate RCT while being injured by the strongest domain we’ve seen in the show ( aside from those two ) not to mention the durability to take two point blank condensed uzumakis, now that’s impressive.
She was wasted by dying not by having bom ba ye as her cursed technique, the only lame thing about her technique was having such bums changing its name to “star rage”
Imagine the force of a punch from Yuki and you'll soon realize she can dish a whole planet's worth of mass in a single, compact hit. Now, depending on the speed and how much mass exactly, *that's a really hard punch*.
Nah you’re SUPER sleeping on it.
>her technique adds MASS to herself or her shikigami she can add enough mass to create literal black holes
That’s far beyond “I can hit hard” in theory Yuki can alter her mass to an extent the planet itself is affected. Remember after her fight w Kenjaku it’s stated she intentionally had the sole target of the black hole be Kenjaku but it could’ve consumed the planet if she let it go loose which mind you is the only planetary feat in the whole of the series
All of that is just her CT that’s before we mention she has a domain or the fact that she can use RCT
A black hole distorts space at it’s event horizon in theory Yuki should be able to pierce limitless(she would kill herself doing it but she could do it) which is something no other character in the series has been shown to do w out augmentation
Yuki is busted my dude
There is a fanfiction I read that was written before her technique was revealed in that the author gave her a CT called metamorphosis which allowed her to imbue cursed energy into things and bring them to life so she had a small army of shikigami that she made
All things considered, it's the fact Yuki couldn't target external phenomena with her CT. She was always going to be the weakest Special Grade because she had no external targeting like Yuta, Kenjaku/Geto and Gojo. She's basically a very low-durability glass cannon that Jujutsu High designated as a problem because of her potential capability of making a black hole.
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Well, IMO a lot of CT’s are kind of lame it just depends how you use them. Think Todo and boogie Woogie, I mean his cursed technique is literally just swapping places with someone (how he uses it is so cool though!!) I feel like the problem with Yuki is that we only saw her fight once!! I do agree though that the concept of Star range is kinda lame compared to the others (mass vs copy or spirit manipulation) I feel like more people would have liked it if we saw it in different situations. I also think she was kind of holding back in the Kenny fight as to not waste so much cursed energy, like how she didn’t use her domain expansion 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
"It's so simple, therefore it's a troublesome CT" -- Hanami on Boogie Woogie.
At first she didn't use her domain cause they had a plan with Tengen. After Tengen destroyed the Sunayata barrier to undo Kenny's open domain,she didn't use DE immediately cause her hand was broken and she went into offence instead of healing because of Kenny's burnt out period. Also if we assume Kenny can do DE at least two times,Yuki would lose more devastatingly cause her DE wouldn't last against an open domain and she would go into burnt out period,so she would be killed more easily by Kenny.Even before Tengen destroyed the barrier of Kenny's domain,Yuki's domain would be destroyed. Basically she had no chance against Kenny.Even Yuta couldn't defeat Kenny in a head to head battle and he had to sneak by bush-camping.
just because its an open domain doesnt mean its an auto win button. the sorcerer needs to match/outdo the refinement of the sure hit first. if an open domain just gave you a win, kenjaku wouldn't be so shit piss scared of gojo all the time. who knows if yuki and yuta can match kenjakus domain
Bruh the radius of the open domain is bigger than a normal close domain. The refinement part will be applied only to the part that was inside the close domain.But the outside will still stay there to destroy the barrier of a close domain. Gojo>>Kenny because Gojo can do multiple DE at a time and he probably can defeat Kenjaku in his own domain with full RCT and Gojo has never ending CE.So Kenny is afraid of Gojo.No matter how much longer Kenny stays alive against Gojo,Kenny will lose anyway.Gojo can just speed blitz him probably before Kenny does anything lol.
>The refinement part will be applied only to the part that was inside the close domain.But the outside will still stay there to destroy the barrier of a close domain. You're misunderstanding domain battles. The only reason Sukuna broke Gojo's domain from the outside was because their **sure-hits were equal**. If Gojo's sure-hit is superior to Kenjaku's, he automatically wins the domain battle and Kenjaku's domain won't be able to break Gojo's barrier from the outside because it'll be destroyed before it can do that.
That's not necessarily the case. In a normal domain, both sure-hits are disabled while the tug of war is going on, this is seen by Megumi's intrusion in Dagon's domain disabling the sure-hit even though Megumi's actual shadow-covered territory was only a fairly small section of Dagon's domain. In the Gojo/Sukuna battle it's explicitly pointed out that instead of the above interactions, the sure-hits are instead overlapping and canceling each other out, and if the sure-hit of domain A would be turned off in a given area, the sure-hit of B would start working. This is very different from how domain battles normally work. It's possible that even if an open domain would lose in refinement, it still wouldn't collapse immediately, and its sure-hit outside of the closed domain would still work. Granted this isn't very relevant in the case of Gojo since his sure-hit would win the fight immediately if allowed to hit Kenjaku. On the other hand, I'm not so sure that Gojo's refinement is better than Kenjaku's, who's spent thousands of years working with barriers.
Do you guys understand simple logic or not? The close domain is a different space that only can cancel the part of a open domain in terms of refinement. But it is not covering the outer part,so the outer part will destroy the barrier of the close domain.
But if the open domain’s refinement is worse then the user would’ve been hit by their opponent’s sure hit since their sure hit doesn’t cancel the opponent’s which will make their domain collapse. Open domain will only give you an advantage if your refinement is the same as the opponent’s, otherwise it won’t matter much.
I think you’re the one refusing to understand simple logic. There are no separate ‘parts’ in a domain battle, the one who loses the tug of war of sure-hits loses the domain battle, regardless of whether it’s an open or closed barrier. Gojo’s and Sukuna’s situation is unique only because their tug of war was completely equal. If Sukuna lost the tug of war, his ENTIRE domain crumbles, not just the part within Gojo’s barrier.
Yes and No, we see from sukuna vs gojo that you can reverse it so your outer domain is stronger. The rules of domain are really just about how creative you can get, but it sure is difficult as kakusabe mentioned to just change the rules on the fly so as to get the advantage over your opponent. In fact Gojo feat of shrinking the domain is even more impressive than an open domain, which is based of his experience in the prison realm. Also tengen being so damn good should be able to dismantle any domain if she has enough time to work on it. the whole place she was in in the first place is already a domain on its own anyways.
Do you know that Sukuna wasn't breaking Gojo's basketball sized domain purposefully lol?and Gojo himself stated that inside the battle. The small domain that Gojo used had the weaker side inside i.e the reverse barrier condition and Mahoraga broke it with one tap.So Sukuna could have broken the small domain anytime with Dismantle or Fuga or binding vow.But he didn't do it for Mahoraga's adaptation. Sukuna also made his domain as small as Gojo to increase the output density,so it doesn't matter. Open domains are stronger than Close domain anytime.
Good luck breaking the domain while being hit by unlimited void sure hit effect.
Kenny can do HWB to negate UV in that miniscule time when the domain will break. Open domains are fucking broken.It's a divine technique according to the narrator. Gojo can defeat Kenny easily,but don't disrespect Kenny's knowledge.
That assumes Gojo will just stand there like an idiot(maybe he would), he would annihilate Kenny before he cast HWB;
He didn't do anything to Sukuna before his domain got broken instantly.Kenjaku has to do HWB for the miniscule time in which the barrier breaks.
Refinement was the same there though, Kenny here would immediately have to protect himself with HWB to avoid being hit with UV, unless you want to argue he has better refinement or equal to Gojo, unless that's the case, he would need to cast HWB before UV hit.
>The refinement part will be applied only to the part that was inside the close domain. if your domain is less refined it will crumble, having an open domain doesn't matter if it gets destroyed in an instant. sukuna managed to destroy the barrier because their domains were not able to overtake each other, kenny can't do that.
Gojo could literally stand there and not be bothered by his domain, just waiting for it to end or just kill him while it's active. Yuki explicitly wasn't sure she could win a tug of war. Kenjaku is top 3 in barrier techniques, ever. Even if it wasn't open, she'd struggle. But because it was open, she'd have lost automatically.
They need to reverse it, we see from sukuna vs gojo that gojo domain lost because while they are as strong, the outside is weak and open domain can hit from the outside. Their next domain clash had gojo reversing the outside being strong. Well they eventually played around further with the rules one upping each other until maho came along but the theory is there. If your simple domain is strong you can even beat kenny's domain open or not, you just have to be skillgap him by that much which is pretty much impossible. Tengen is the best example, being so experienced he was able to dismantle even an open domain which ill say is a pretty sick feat, only problem is that she was so damn fucking slow at it. but thats also because she wasnt expecting it and had to layer an additional domain to form a basis so as to dismantle kennys.
Kenny did actually say himself that Yuki would have a better chance if she used her own DE instead of going with Tengen's plan. Tengen sold :( Even if she still loses in the end, I would've liked to see her DE.
Kenny said the result wouldn't have been that boring,he never said about a better chance. Yuki's domain may be Yoruzu type where she used her Shikigami Garuda as a sure hit.
Tbh I kinda don't think Kenny's open domain is an automatic win button, specifically with yuta. Gravity is the CT he originally applied to the domain and if we assume that Kenny and yuta both use their domain at once, I'm not sure gravity could penetrate yutas barrier. Sukunas open domain is super powerful because cleave and dismantle are super powerful in terms of head on attacks. Correct me if I'm wrong here but gravity isn't that offensively power ful from what I can tell. Also yuta has a major advantage which is Rika. While she can't break an open domain, she can fight alongside yuta against Kenny, and actually provide an issue. Especially since, if it gets desperate, she can summon love beam. Also yuta has shown that he's faster than kenjaku, so he could theoretically speed blitz him. I think the reason why they sent in takaba to fight Kenny was first off, that takaba had an unorthodox technique with next to no counters, and secondly, because yuta was extremely important to the sukuna plan. Outside of domain, yutas honestly much better. Csm is no issue for him cause we already saw Rika pretty much destroy all the cursed spirits Kenny released, and his speed and stronger stats should allow him to get the W.
Gravity being not super powerful doesn't matter cause the outside barrier of a domain is weak.So it will fall in some seconds and Yuta will run into burnt out period. >yuta has shown that he's faster than kenjaku I don't think so.It only happened because of Takaba.My headcanon is that Kenny lost the control over Geto's body because of Takaba's soul resonance doing damage to Kenny's soul. Kenny knows DA which would nullify most techniques of Yuta.Kenny was the best barrier user,so he could do different things with his domain barrier+he could do simple domain and HWB. Kenny has Uzumaki+antigravity+gravity.Without any doubt Kenny is the 3rd strongest in the verse. Kenny defeated Takaba with comedy,he destroyed the jumping of Yuki , Choso and Tengen. Kenny is him.Kenny is the most cunning character in the verse.Yuta is not defeating him.
I mean, Kenjaku is stated to be the 2nd best barrier user in the entire series. He arguably has an even more refined domain than even Sukuna and Gojo. Tengen basically told Yuki that she stood no chance if she opened her domain and told Yuki to follow her plan because of it. Yuta is definitely not winning in a domain clash against the guy with the most refined domain in the series that also happens to be open. He literally tore Yuki's simple domain to shreds like it was wet paper. Also, there's a lot that points to that Kenjaku used CSM in his domain. There was a very good twitter thread about it recently. I'll see if I can find it. Edit: [Found it](https://twitter.com/kostivedae/status/1775185991818465599?t=CjuYIqkVLqoFNUnfmWAClQ&s=19)
There is not a lot that points to the sure hit being CSM, and that thread goes from talking about themes to just making stuff up. They claimed Maki's twisted limb in 0 was perhaps Geto using CSM directly on her body. Why would he even use cursed spirits on humans if he can just crush them? It also presumes because the technique itself doesn't crush the floor, that just mean the domain doing that is an inconsistency. The entire point of the domain is to enhance the technique.
I don't buy the theory at all that it's Geto's domain. It can easily be Yuji's mom's but the appearance changed because a Domain Expansion basically shows the soul and its Kenjaku's.
What if she opened her domain when Kenjaku's ct was in burnout ?
Her hand was broken that time,so she couldn't.She jumped Kenjaku with one hand to defeat him in the burnt out period.
No, after she healed her hands Kenjaku was still in burnout, she heals herself, Kenjaku jumps off, then she opens her domain.
I think you should read again.When she healed her hand,we got a reveal that Kenjaku already healed his CT burnt out.This means that he knows how to recover burnt out CT faster similar to Gojo. Of course he knows man.Kenjaku is a 1000 year old sorcerer and he could do DE at least twice probably.If Yuki expanded her domain,then Kenjaku would have too. And Yuki thought that she would win with just H2H,but lost cause she was a researcher not a skilled fighter. Anyway he fought 3 vs 1 and he still won.
Nah Yuta could definitely beat Kenjaku. The point of the sneak attack was 1. To minimize damage and 2. To end the fight as quickly and efficiently as possible so Yuta could return to fight Sukuna immediately and not have Yuta be tired and injured. Pretty sure Kenjaku openly acknowledges the fact that he would lose to Yuta on a couple occasions with little things he said here and there. Dude seemed like he was kinda scared of him tbh. The fact that he had already beaten the body he was using and its cursed technique seemed to add to the fact that he thought he would lose. Kenny is strong for sure but he’s more of a Machiavellian than an all powerful badass
She should have used some cursed tools, shit a fucking gun with virtual mass bullets would have ended it.
She could only apply it to herself and her shikigami.
I think that is the lamest limit to a special grade whose power is virtual (m)ass
Yeah she had the same mentality jogo had when he fought Sukuna. To not use domain expansion cause you know you will lose
No she didn't use her domain because they wanted kenny to open his and have tengen undo the barrier and jumped kenny while his technique was recovering, mass was pretty boring tho ngl
Swapping places of things is cool in itself. Never saw anything where a character who could do that used it in a non-cool way.
Lame powers don't exist in anime. Higuruma's CT is just Japan's law system but it still goes hard. Gege simply wasted Yuki.
I think it’s funny you bring up Higuruma because I feel like him and Hakari both don’t have the most entertaining abilities. They’re fun to read the first fight but not something you’d wanna see multiple fights of
Yeah, Higgy def has a monster of the week type power. In a different manga he would be a one off mid-arc villain where the hero uses some loophole in the Japanese legal system to defeat him.
So a JJBA villain
We pretending Judgeman isn't literally a stand
Lmao when I wrote the comment I almost added "kinda sounds like a JJBA villain tbh"
I think hakari suffers from the fact that he hadn't really developed any cool looking offensive power with jackpot mode. Like I'm imaging giant blasts if rct aimed at his opponents or some shit like mechamarus ultimate canon.
I think his real problem is his power isn't fleshed out. He shouldn't have a cannon. We've seen that three times already. Ryu, Rika, and Kashimo all do some variation of giant energy cannon. What he needs is other prizes besides the Jackpot. I don't know the series his CT is based on, but interesting lesser prizes would have kept him dynamic. Making him choose between going for skill plays on lesser prizes or going for broke on the jackpot would have given his fights depth.
His ability is based on pachinko machine, and the lesser prizes in hakari's case is a higher chance of jackpot until he hit jackpot, which is kinda similar in my experience to real life pachinko, though I only played it a little bit when I went there.
Im realizing people seem to think his power is slot machine when it is in fact pachinko machine, yea
> rct aimed at his opponents or some shit like mechamarus ultimate canon. Or a cursed energy Kamehameha.
Yeah that's more what I had in mind but I wanted to use an in universe thing to show what it would look like in universe.
Cursed Energy blasts are already an in universe thing, been since the first finger bearer actually.
Honestly it would be so cool if hakari had ce attacks like the 2 finger bearers
i think he was referring specifically to kamehameha when he said in universe terms. bro forgot yuji already thought about it in anime.
Which is why we haven’t really seen Hakari’s fight with Uraume. Also Sukuna would make it his mission to kill Hakari
Yuji straight up didn't have a technique until recently yet his fights were still exciting to read. You don't need a flashy power if the fight itself is engineered well. See Jojo for example, Jotaro's power is punching really hard and extending two fingers yet he still has great fights
Higuruma is definitely entertaining, unless all you wanna see is fights and not a bit of psychological play
this is what I came to say, everything about yuki was actually cool, including her going out, but gege somehow made kenny live just to die in a worse way it's actually really hard for me not to get annoyed thinking about it only because yuki is probably one of the coolest characters in the series for me greg the motherfuckin egg is trolling sometimes
Tbh choso shouldve died instead. I love him but he doesnt add anything
feel like greg wrote her out because she'd be too impactful against sukuna
There's a lot of that in this series. Characters that would've been extremely useful against certain enemies, but just, didn't make it far enough.
The only thing he adds is overshadowing Kamo (the only other non-fraud from Kyoto that isn't Todo or Mechamaru Absolute).
the dude with balls on his head from MHA would like to have a word with you
His power isn't his issue, it's everything else.
I mean, she can punch with a fist that weighs 1000 pounds. That’s pretty cool. A black flash at max weight would probably one shot Sukuna
Tbf every CT is lame if your enemy had CT that specific 1000% counter your CT.
I find it funny how the "ah my x technique from the heian era" meme got associated with Sukuna when Kenny did it first
...And Sukuna hasn't even done it. Unless if you count Fuga on Jogo.
Fuga wasn’t a counter, it was a downright nerf. In the scan where Gege comments on Hanami’s durability, he mentions how Jogo would beat Hanami due to “elemental advantages”. This strongly implies that Jogo is weak to water and strong to fire. Sukuna just was so strong with his fire that he one shotted him anyways.
Sukuna's character has mainly been about flexing on how much stronger he is than everyone then being the number 1 Yuji hater then being the main villain of the series (next to Gege)
I was referring to pulling out a technique out of nowhere that you haven't used or shown before, aka the "haven't used it since the heian era" meme. I agree that it would probably be easier to kill Jogo without Fuga.
Ahh, gotcha, that makes more sense lol.
its just further proof that jjk fans dont even read their own series
Reading? Who the fuck would do that?
That’s the craziest part for me
Fuga is just Sukuna ‘respecting’ Jogo by dabbing on him. Dude wasn’t able to touch him at all when that was he only goal.
It's really disappointing that Yuki not only died in her first fight but lost in such an uncreative way. Gege couldn't think of anything more interesting than The Backshotted One having the exact perfect counter to her kit?
If sukuna got hit by a 200% hollow purple directly ans in a way that covered is whole body and then went something like "ahhh I simply had the ability to slash myself into infinite pieces and reform myself which is a perfect counter to your hollow purple" I would implode
I mean the meme can apply to Kenny since he is also from the Heian era
I mean, she's so strong that you can't fight her H2H. She could potentially beat literally every single character besides Gojo and Sukuna (obv she lost to Kenjaku but they're in the same tier). In fact, if she was with the gang fighting Sukuna now, the series would've ended 10 chapters ago. That's strong as hell. With that said I thought her ability would've let her add gravity to her shikigami and pull people in like blue or something. Or make others weigh way more when they get hit...something, anything. Gege wasn't very creative with her.
I agree gege could have been more creative but it's worth noting the mass required to cause an effect like blue would be planetary, the kind of thing she had to kill herself to achieve. Not to mention if you're generating mass in the order of planets, sucking stuff in with the corresponding gravity would be the least destructive thing you could do. The gravity wouldn't work in just one direction, she would have created a virtual planet right on top of ours with all the repercussions that come with it. The only reason the blackhole didn't tear up the earth was because her control and will were insane
>I agree gege could have been more creative but it's worth noting the mass required to cause an effect like blue would be planetary, the kind of thing she had to kill herself to achieve. That's not true at all, the difference in mass between a black hole + planetary level gravity is hundreds of orders of magnitude. >The only reason the blackhole didn't tear up the earth was because her control and will were insane Well...yes, that's the point This is hypothetical, her ability can't do what I mentioned. But Gege easily could've written it so if he wanted to
>That's not true at all, the difference in mass between a black hole + planetary level gravity is hundreds of orders of magnitude. This also isn't true. The mass of a black hole is completely arbitrary. It's the _density_ that's the problem. Her technique can increase mass WITHOUT affecting density up to a certain point. But when it _does_ affect density, it creates a black hole because the radius of her body is too small. She collapses in on herself, which causes her to achieve infinite density. This would happen even worse with Garuda since it has a smaller radius when balled up. It would be like dropping a planet on the Earth, which would crash all the way into the core and cause it to collapse.
The second paragraph says it all for me. She was right with her last words, there's three things with which you gotta be very careful: time, space and mass. If Gege had any semblance of a knowledge of physics, he'd have given her power more limitations because she could be just as broken as Gojo except that the applications that were given to her CT were ass so she was much weaker than she could've been.
Making all the characters as strong as Gojo is a bad thing. Her limitations were fine.
Dude, do you actually read the comments your reply to? The commentor above didn't say anything about making her "as strong as Gojo."
Strong =/= interesting.
Gege used her very poorly. But Star Rage, a CT that can virtually one shot everyone in the verse, is something that we would expect from a Special Grade Sorcerer
Yuki and star rage are not lame. Gege just wasted them hard.
Sometimes simplicity is damn strong. She's easily one of the best physical fighters and one of the best anti-spirit sorcerers thanks to Garuda according to Kenny. The fact that she's special grade I think it's safe to assume Garuda ignores most techniques.
Its coolness wore off because we see Kenjaku start tanking it. If every hit took off limbs like the first one did people would think it’s a lot cooler. I also think it’d be better if we knew more about what kind of techniques she can avoid, I remember when the leaks for it first came out everyone talked about how many techniques are “concepts” therefore she could negate them and no one has those convos anymore
She just doesn't get enough fights. She can use reverse cursed energy to heal. Enough fights could have shown us that she can lighten her mass with RCT to the point she's hyper-fast like on past worth Gojo teleporting fast. She has domain expansion and we never saw it. And her best move was countered by the bad guy randomly having the exact power needed to beat it.
Why do people keep saying this power was random? It was anti-gravity. Yes, it being the regular state of his technique was a reveal, but it was already something everybody would've assumed he could do literally the moment gravity was introduced.
Here's the thing: He didn't know Yuki's technique. He basically randomly chose Yuji's mother as a host. Him having a one-in-a-million perfect counter to an insta-kill just to die moments later anyway is a stupid level of contrivance.
>Is there something I'm missing? The literal black hole she summoned...Also the fact she is immune to the effects of curse spirits because of her mASS is too heavy.
Black hole is useless as she can't uses it outside Tengen barrier to not destroy the world. And the only time she used it, it did nothing.
The only time she used it Greg began the great Uno Reverse trend he's been sticking with for a year and a half
I know about the black hole I just think the fact it kills her is lame. If I remember correctly she's not immune to curses but rather her technique adds so much mass to her it screws with single target powers. An aoe or indiscriminate attack would hit her just fine.
She would just one/ two punch any aoe ( jogo ) or “indiscriminate” attacker ( maki ). It takes just one opening, she has the speed and the domain to make up for not being “ a long range fighter “ which she kinda is tho with garuda
I think it’s cool as hell, personally. It’s not just punching hard, I honestly kind of see Ryu’s technique as mostly that, just big power. Guess that one has a cannon on top too. This kind of goes way beyond “punches hard”, though. I think it’s difficult to realize that Yuki only ever hit Kenjaku with an actual full powered Star Rage like once, and it smashed his limbs to pieces. Kenjaku was smart enough to realize; I literally cannot fight with this woman in melee range, and he immediately opens his domain. From that point on, her Star Rage is reduced in efficacy until the very end, and then he slips by her with the mini Uzumaki. So you’ve only ever seen Star Rage in action against the one person she fought in a very limited manner, because if Kenjaku didn’t go so hard with the open barrier domain pretty much right away, he very well could’ve lost. If Yuki and Ryu punch each other with everything both of them have, Ryu’s arm would be the one that is severely messed up and injured, imo. The level of difference in power is vast, due to Star Rage’s actual functionality. Plus like you said, it’s a great defensive technique. I’m pretty sure even Uraume wouldn’t be able to do much in terms of freezing her, since Yuki would still be able to move with the mass of a building or mountain to break through the ice. Add in Garuda and how he can be used as a Shikigami or as a cursed tool with Star Rage, and can even be used after a domain expansion (Yuki says it gives her an advantage in a situation of CT burnout), and she’s got a pretty good package imo
Her fist should have pierced through Kenjaku. She had one-shot potential by adding unlimited virtual mass.
It's not unlimited, even if we didn't see a black hole form eventually from too much mass, techniques cost CT to use. She literally couldn't hit an infinite mass punch if she wanted to. I think completely shattering his defense in one hit and forcing one of the biggest asspulls in the story is good enough for me
It shouldnt just have pierced him, it should have vaporized him lol
Hell Yeah :)
Gege threw everything Yuki could've done in the trash Realistically that first punch she landed on Kenjaku should've ripped his head off
Have you considered how much virtual mass she can add while sitting on my face though?
The USP of Yuki’s CT is virtual mass, not making things “hit very hard”. Virtual mass allows her to negate many constructs in curse techniques, allowing it to ignore physical concepts as the mass lies on an imaginary plane, making it impossible to defend. It’s a mini pseudo reality manipulation in a sense as her power is literally not “reality”, but imaginary/ virtual.
The fact that the targeting of techniques going haywire was a direct effect of increased mass instead of it just having that effect separately is awesome as it implies like literal astronomical amounts of weight especially with the name Star Rage But of course somehow Kenny didn't become red mist from one punch so it just felt like a mild stat boost
Lmao average jujutsushi reading comprehension
Yuki's technique is one of the coolest techniques imo. The concept is amazing, and even though we didn't get to see much of her the stuff we saw was pretty cool. The idea of "virtual mass" is insanely dope. Like, imagine fighting her without knowing her ability. She could lightly tap you and you'd be hit with the force of a missile. It's so insane. And the dynamic she has with Garuda is so fucking cool. Being able to change its virtual mass makes for some really dope combos (which we actually saw her do). Sure, the applications/uses of the cursed technique are simple—buff yourself so you can punch and kick harder. But the *how* she does it is really frikin cool. I think you were just expecting some super complex and creative ability, something unique, bizarre and OP. Not all techniques have to be that way, if they were we'd be getting Hakari-like explanations for every single random sorcerer of the week.
The only thing lame about it is the name. "Star rage" just sounds cringe. I wish they'd kept "Bom ba ye" as its name. It had way more character and just over all fit Yuki better
Completely different translators.
The concept is perfectly fine. It's just stupid that all Gege could think to do with it was "punch good." It's a result of the author misusing Yuki IN GENERAL, not her technique conceptually. For instance, just tweaking it so it would work on other targets opens up many possibilities. Spitballing other uses of mass increase: - Weighing an opponent down so they can't move. - Collapsing structures by selectively weighing down parts of them. - Increasing your durability, since objects now need to impart more force onto you to move your tissue and thus damage it. - Applying reversal to make yourself virtually massless and able to move at high speeds.
She puts it on her rope-shaped shikigami to use other strategies. Also, your suggestions are contradictory. If she could increase her durability, which _is_ something Gege thought about and explicitly mentions, then she'd weigh more. It would slow her down and wouldn't actually provide the advantages she uses. It would also mean that decreasing her mass wouldn't make her move faster, it would make her a floating target that could be torn like paper. Air currents would be enough to toss her off course. She uses Garuda to restrict people already. She can collapse structures by just throwing Garuda at them. If we use RPG logic, which Gege uses a lot to explain the universe, she's a fighter. She throws quick, strong attacks that deal huge DPS. If we're going to imagine new powers, you can't do that by imagining a new character. Because, as with Megumi, the way the technique is used is directly tied to the actual character. Gege is not just imagining all the ways an ability could be used.
That's lame. That's really lame. Gege CAN do whatever he wants - this is all made up, and it frankly doesn't make much sense anyways. Nothing I said operates on any more cartoon logic than whatever the fuck is going on with the comedian dude.
I think the issue with Star Rage was that it's either too powerful or kinda lame. It's even a little inconsistent how it works, Gege had to make it so changing mass doesn't change Yuki's sturdiness because otherwise it would be too powerful (just make yourself weigh 10 tons, then any attack would have to be strong enough to move that much mass to even make you feel it). The issue with this is that from the point of view of physics, it doesn't matter if Yuki is the one punching A or A punching her, in either case A should think Yuki has extremely high mass, so their flesh (or cursed energy beam) should mostly leave Yuki's body unchanged. Anyway, due to being able to turn herself into a black hole she still achieves the qualifications for Special Grade, she's the sorcerer with the highest potential for mass destruction we've seen in the series, just a shame that it's a suicide move.
Facts, I remember Kenjaku saying she must have a high output extension technique, but nah she did absolutely nothing. It’s actually crazy how mediocre her CT is. Everyone in JJK has extension techniques, but Yuki just punches hard… Gojo has Infinity, Blue, Red, Purple Sukuna has Cleave, Dismantle, spiderweb Cleave and now world slash Kenjaku has gravity, anti-gravity, Uzumaki…
Reducing her CT to “punches hard” is a huge misreading of what the CT actually does and the potential it has. Yuki can increase *or* decrease the mass of herself, with Garuda as an extension. Gege went through the trouble of explaining the ability, but as everyone else said, he just didn’t give her the chance to actually shine. Decreasing mass to gain speed and momentum, then increasing it to gain explosive power can be a crazy effective ability to exploit. If she can infinitely increase mass and create a black hole, doing something like hitting Garuda and targeting the ground, giving it with as much mass as the meteor that wiped the fucking dinosaurs out, would be doable and pretty fucking impressive if you ask me.
gege just hates the women he writes. except maki because she’s pretty much toji with a cooter
Maki existed first.
and she was mid until she became toji 2.0
I actually kind of love her ability mainly because it’s so simple. I think when making a superpowered character the instinct is to give them a very complex ability. Gojo is a good example as Limitless gives him a forcefield, gravity manipulation (basically), teleportation, and a massive energy blast. Geto and Yuta have techniques that are simple to understand but give them a huge amount of moves at their disposal to use in a ton of ways. Yuki (and Sukuna as well) by contrast have incredibly simple abilities that become special grade level due not to the technique itself but the huge cursed energy stores behind it. On face, “hit hard” or “cut” shouldn’t be a crazy ability so seeing how those abilities can rise to the level of Kenjaku or Gojo is a really fun contrast for me
It felt lame because kenjaku could somehow tank her super dense fist....
Her output was lowered because she took Kenny's domain head on. It's like current Sukuna not being able to 1 shot Kusakabe.
Lame is pretending that kenjaku ain’t one of the top three best sorcerers out there with massive cursed reserves of energy and crazy good RCT usage. Dense are those illiterate ppl that can’t read between the lines…
Even sukuna should have been vaporized taking a single hit from her Honestly
I still stand by the fact that Geto’s head should’ve popped the moment he was tapped by Yuki but that’s a problem for another day.
Coolest power in the series wasted by a lame ass fight with a straight ass pull counter so she can’t even show off other than ONE PUNCH and a death bomb
Yuki is bodying most of the people/curses she encounters She just so happened to have fought Kenjaku
Bro thinks having the highest AP in the fuckin verse is lame it’s so over.
I mean yeah ? That's just having stronger punches and kick. Something like Higuruma CT is not even close in term of power but it's so much more fun. Hell what's the point of having strong punches and kicks if Ken can just tank them and heal them no problem.
Higuruma ironically has the highest AP in the series with his his executioner sword.
Needs the condition and he needs to actually touches his opponent.
Sure, but the attack itself has the highest AP in the series. It will instantly kill you with no way to come back. It being hard to pull off doesn't matter here.
The concept itself is what makes it fun, atleast for me. higurumas CT is fun as hell but it’s still essentially just a “game” him and his opponent are forced to play. Yukis CT is badass but it didn’t get a lot of room to shine, it could’ve been so cool.
If she could have done cool shit like dropping from a high places like a meteor or sink someone in the sea with her shikigami, it would have been a lot cooler. As far as we saw, she only punched and kicked and we didn't even get to see her domain.
That’s on gege my bro, yuki still cool as shit 😔
Real man, I still feel so bad for what he did to her.
AP?
Attack power.
I think the basis of star rage is amplifying her force by increasing her mass but since Force=mass X acceleration I think it would've been cooler if she could also control her acceleration allowing her to rapidly change direction and speed by applying acceleration in different directions. But this would kinda just completely counter gravity/anti gravity so plot reasons here.
Nah. Virtual mass is pretty cool. Especially in the way it can ignore the concepts of other people cursed techniques. And in tandem with Garuda it is pretty versatile.
Have you studied physics? Gojo's technique also seems really lame when if you only read about it but he applied it very carefully and it's insane. If you only saw him defending with it it'd be pretty meh. I think the main issue is that it's so OP she never had to make an effort tbh. If you really think about it, she destroyed a Special Grade spirit with a kick. She's kind of a meathead so she probably didn't train much with it and focused on her investigation, but, to me, having control over mass is so insane that it's a shame she was so carefree with it. One issue could be that Gege just didn't have any knowledge about mass, but, as far as what one can do with mass, it's just as broken as what one could do with space as Gojo does. Her technique is nearly on the level of limitless and the only thing that makes her weaker than Gojo would be that she doesn't have the six eyes and the benefits that come with it. But that only makes her technique more interesting because she can still use and abuse her broken CT. To give you an example of how much of a fool she is by using it with punches (tho it's actually Gege who doesnt know any better), she wouldn't even have to give her kicks any effort. As counterintuitive as it sounds, any acceleration that her muscles could create, would be entirely unnoticeable in comparison to the acceleration the extra weight she'd put could give. She doesn't even need a cursed object to apply her technique to, just her having mass already affects everything she touches, so her having, say, a bunch of little pebbles, could gmdo enough damage to decimate a whole city. Even if we're told it's "virtual mass", whatever that means, the fact that her punching stuff does massive damage means that her throwing stuff would too because no matter how virtual her mass is she has an effect in the real world. Just like how Gojo's powers are improperly used because Gege is ignorant of basic physics, so are Yuki's. Gege is a fucking fool and you should rethink your opinion of her because Kenjaku won because he's insane and, tbh, he shouldn't have by any metrics if we take her powers into account 😅
Gege didn't want a second Gojo. She adds virtual mass, like Blue.
The kenjaku yuki fight is so stupid.. if he had used the anti-gravity technique after the fight, it wouldn't have been such a plot device, but now he's dead and it was just an asspull to counter her
Shouldn't increasing your mass make you impervious to damage?
You're sleeping HARD on Yuki. However, so did Gege. That's all.
Garuda is the saving grace for me, it’s so versatile as a shikigami -
You're right , it is powerful, but it is just lame
Yuki could probably have done more cool shit if we had gotten to see more of her
The problem was her only having a single fight. Imagine we got her fighting a horde of spirits first to tenderize her a bit. We'd see her tossing rocks like bullets and they weigh 1000lbs each, punching curses into just gore like the doom slayer, grabbing a curse by the head and making them weigh so much they crush to death on the floor, more from Garuda and their fighting style. Also I think simple, borderline semantic powers are the most interesting. You mention Gojo, his entire shtick is just "what if you made infinity real" but it's used creatively and with great spectacle so that simplicity works well
It might not be that interesting or unique but it's extremely powerful. She controls a force of the universe that could either launch her victims away or crush them. Melee wise she's dangerous b/c she can basically generate infinite force. I'm sure we could've seen more interesting uses of it had she stayed around
Her ct makes her immune to most cursed techniques and allows her to summon a fucking black hole
I wish her CT made her more tanky. She getting donuted by a mini Uzumaki felt lame to me
My understanding is “virtual mass” allows Yuki to increase the damage dealt to an infinite degrwithin sacrificing her own maneuverability and abilities. If you can switch a stick but increase the mass to match a sledgehammer, the impact will be stronger than either.
I think Garuda being a part of it makes it cool, and we really just got robbed by not seeing her use it much
I disagree i did some calculations regarding her ability in a post a while Ago but ill keep it brief Yukis technique SHOULD be the most destructive/powerfull technique in the series outside of hax like infinity and comedian. If yuki could punch with just a trillionth of the mass of her black hole it would be a punch with the mass of 25 mount everests, just to give a better perspective of how much this is, this is 395,000,000,0 tons, the eiffel tower weighs 10100 tons, so her punch would have the mass of 391,089 eiffel towers. she should have been able to oneshot sukuna with a fingerflick thousands of times over. She got done dirty by plotarmor
She got hoe’d by plot armour. She should technically be able to one shot literally every single character in the series (apart from Gojo)
It definitely is a technique worthy of the special grade. Assigning mass to herself or her shikigami is already really strong. I think what we never got was the multitude of applications this technique may have as well as its domain expansion (which she was said to be able to use but didn't use because it would burn her out of her CT for a while in the fight). But thinking about how Domain Expansions work, it might be possible for her to assign mass to other points within her domain which, coupled with a sure-hit effect, would also result in a sure kill. Turning your opponent into a singularity of mass is not something anyone can recover from. Biggest issue for her, even if she had pulled that vs Kenny, is that Kenny literally had the biggest uno-reverse for her, the anti-gravity technique.
She defied the laws of physics
It’s because we never saw her use it to the fullest extent because of gege just wasting her character
I kinda agree. I really wanted her technique to be tsukumogami stuff. fits the special grade criteria perfectly and with her name. So when it was revealed she was another punch and kick merchant I was kinda disappointed
It's just simple. We learned early on some techniques are complex and some are simple. The simple ones are good because there is no built in secret to stop it. You know how it works right away but that doesn't help. Something like Higuruma's technique is complex which makes it strong naturally without training but quickly there are holes in the technique that can be used against it.
Hot take
She punched Kenny’s fucking arms off
I know she probably cant but Imagine being hit by a punch with the weight of the sun. And most ct are lame when you put it like that. Hakari? Just roll and get a boost when you get a jackpot. Higuruma? Just the law system. Megumi? Basic summoning magic. Todo? Switch place. Sukuna? Cut things and fire. Jogo? Fire magic. Hanami? Nature magic. Dagon? Water and fish magic ect...
One thing I really dislike on JJK is the majority of cursed techniques are "I punch harder and faster" Miguel being the new addition to the collection. I would like to get more sorcery on these sorcerers fights
It's worth noting that special grade designation is about the destructive potential of said cursed technique rather than necessarily the quality of the sorcerer. We hear that Yuki is not particularly involved with the Jujutsu world and her resentment toward Tengen would make learning Japanese sorcery techniques especially unpleasant given their reliance on Tengen's barriers. It's likely that Yuki's base technique is what gave her the designation and her lack of imagination, training, and support from other sorcerers limited her ability to effectively apply the technique. Even the hereditary techniques of the big 3 families are fairly unimpressive on their own, but the knowledge and mastery of how to apply them very specifically to create effects is what makes them so strong. Yuki doesn't seem to have had any predecessors, we don't know what makes one a Star Plasma Vessel exactly, nor is it clear that anyone else has a technique like hers in use. I think you're right to call her application of the technique fairly lame, but the question of "could this person destroy the world?" is an easy "yes" for Yuki no matter how unimpressive her knowledge of sorcery is otherwise. It would be fair to say that if Yuki were rated on her sorcery skills alone, she probably would be a 2nd sorcerer. That she can create a black hole at will makes her destructive potential special grade.
Star rage is awesome, it’s implied Yuki had a chance against Kenjaku if she relied only on her own strength and used her Domain. Tengen dropped the ball on her.
It's more just the portrayal of Yuki's cursed technique is lame. Imagine if Yuki went storming through entire CITIES, which based her technique, she SHOULD able to maintain with ease. Imagine that the mass itself is quantified EXPONENTIALLY, so as she leaps high enough to crash back down with that force, the blast impact is THAT much more a show of terrible force. Imagine her crashing down with at least TWICE the force of Jogo's own meteorite, except SHE can move as fast as she wants all the while, or at least build up speed that exponentially rails up, jetting through skyscrapers like she's a mini-omni-man lmao. Point is? her technique didn't get the showings it deserved. Because gege hoed her.
The masses fear the strength build
That's because it is.
It is.
I'd say sleeping on Yuki, but given how Gege portrayed her and what she showed I feel she's more lame than her CT. Her CT is pretty broken, but felt like she didn't show as much refinement or applications outside of her trump card which is just self destructive.
To be fair, Yuki can hit ***really*** hard. *Virtual mass* is, as its name suggests, "virtual",—completely incorporeal,—meaning she can stack possibly hundreds of tons onto her body without affecting her density, increasing her strength practically infinitely up until she *literally collapses into a black hole*. The mass he creates is so heavy, so powerful that not even the Special Grade Ganesha could contain Garuda within the **concept** of "obstacle".
Bro can manipulate mass. Its like saying “Limitless is kinda lame” because all it can do is push, pull and remove things. Its ultimately the usage that makes a CT cool.
You are sleeping on her. Fought a 1000 year old sorcerer and put up a great fight she claps basically everyone outside of top5
To use a power like "mass" to it's full extent, you need to be a scientific genius or just be decent to excellent at science and maths. I reckon the reverse of her technique would be negative mass, wich is also very complicated and can do a whole lotta thing including some of the stuff Gojo does She fought a guy that had the perfect techniques to counter her
For me personally, because it defies physics like Infinity is what makes Star Rage special grade. Especially the one time use black hole. If Yuki and Tengen didn't restrict it, it would have destroyed earth.
>Yuki however just hits really hard Yuki can hit so hard that the entire planet implodes. She's by far the most dangerous one.
It isn't lame , in fact it is completely broken, I mean ability to ignore all concepts and curse techniques is just a cheat code....
It is definitely basic in how it can be applied, though I'd say there's some decent depth with the shikigami. But the technique itself is a really cool idea imo, and extremely powerful as yuki well showed.
I feel like a technique like that would require a lot of skill/be very difficult to use kind of like limitless, not as much but to mess with the mass of something you have to be big brain asf so you don’t accidentally kill yourself
Sometimes simple and powerful is better than a diverse arsenal. She showed that throwing high level curses on her is practically meaningless no matter how broken their technique is. She just punches through them with overwhelming force. Her raw power is practically unrivaled bar Gojo and Sukuna.
I don't know dude, IMO nigh unlimited mass with basically no restrictions sounds really broken to me and the fact that it has another medium besides you which you inflict on them too
Couldn’t she just’ve used the black hole for Garuda?
Your 🧠 is missing… jk. Yuki’s mass makes her invulnerable to literally everything geto had under his thumb, literally useless against her. Her punches cannot be countered easily, kenjaku literally expanded his domain after being hit by her because otherwise it would be nearly impossible to fight her without getting wrecked. Yuki had enormous reserves of cursed energy just by being a special grade and being able to operate RCT while being injured by the strongest domain we’ve seen in the show ( aside from those two ) not to mention the durability to take two point blank condensed uzumakis, now that’s impressive. She was wasted by dying not by having bom ba ye as her cursed technique, the only lame thing about her technique was having such bums changing its name to “star rage”
Imagine the force of a punch from Yuki and you'll soon realize she can dish a whole planet's worth of mass in a single, compact hit. Now, depending on the speed and how much mass exactly, *that's a really hard punch*.
Nah you’re SUPER sleeping on it. >her technique adds MASS to herself or her shikigami she can add enough mass to create literal black holes That’s far beyond “I can hit hard” in theory Yuki can alter her mass to an extent the planet itself is affected. Remember after her fight w Kenjaku it’s stated she intentionally had the sole target of the black hole be Kenjaku but it could’ve consumed the planet if she let it go loose which mind you is the only planetary feat in the whole of the series All of that is just her CT that’s before we mention she has a domain or the fact that she can use RCT A black hole distorts space at it’s event horizon in theory Yuki should be able to pierce limitless(she would kill herself doing it but she could do it) which is something no other character in the series has been shown to do w out augmentation Yuki is busted my dude
There is a fanfiction I read that was written before her technique was revealed in that the author gave her a CT called metamorphosis which allowed her to imbue cursed energy into things and bring them to life so she had a small army of shikigami that she made
This is just cursed corpses…
Maybe but in this case it's taken to the absolute extreme I don't think yaga could make Krakens
All things considered, it's the fact Yuki couldn't target external phenomena with her CT. She was always going to be the weakest Special Grade because she had no external targeting like Yuta, Kenjaku/Geto and Gojo. She's basically a very low-durability glass cannon that Jujutsu High designated as a problem because of her potential capability of making a black hole.