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Try thinking about it like this:
The byproduct of reincarnation isn’t to heal the body. Reincarnation transforms the body to mimic that of the reincarnated.
However, reincarnation is limited in its scope. What are the limitations? Reincarnation does not change the soul nor does it change the brain. Why? It doesn’t change the soul because two souls can never be merged, only mixed. It doesn’t change the brain because that would manipulate the CT of the vessel, effectively merging the vessel with the spirit, and we already know that that can’t be done.
Also, “Ass pull” doesn’t apply here. Nothing has been pulled. If anything, something that could’ve been pulled was left in the chamber.
It wasn't an asspull, more like a plot convenience, Kenny showed gravity before Yuki showed Mass, an asspull comes out of nowhere.
Not to mention, even if his CT was gravity, he could have reversed it and gotten anti-gravity anyway, so no matter what, Yuki's black hole wouldn't have done anything anyway
Even then, it makes sense for Gojo to know Falling Blossom Emotion since he's from one of the big 3 clans, and that technique is passed between the big 3 clans. Hell, simple domain is something he figured out on the spot because Gojo is a genius at jujutsu.
I literally kept asking where this is from and I’ve reread the manga and haven’t seen Sukuna do anything new that he hasn’t used since the heian era…
I thought I missed a panel where he literally says that
The meme started when he didn't lose his technique against Higurama, but it spiraled out of control.
I think Kenjaku literally using "anti gravity technique" helped the meme gain momentum.
The only really convenient thing hs got is confiscation working on his tool and not on the technique.
I think it would have been cool to see Sukuna have to rely on his tool and black flashes/physicals as opposed to cleave/dismantle.
Nah this whole reincarnation shit is never explained well. There's one line of dialogue that talks about it and it's vague as fuck.
Don't blame people because the author doesn't explain shit. It's not an ass pull but it's not well explained.
Nah I don't need it explained now. The comment you replied to did that very well. My point was that this shit wasn't in the manga. The only reference to hwo reincarnation works is when sukuna fully reincarnated into four arm sukuna, and it just says that he unpaused his reincarnation.
Source: it was revealed to me in a dream
I do agree that if there was an explanation it would probably be something like this. Gege however hasn't said anything about it so really is there any point in looking for a logical explanation, you're just making shit up
There’s conjecture but the broader points were stated in the manga. Regarding intentions, I respect Gege’s writing enough to take his ideas to their logical conclusion.
No it makes even more sense considering that. Uro, ryu, Charles and all the other reincarnated sorcerers are using their goats brains. It’s why they know stuff and understand the modern era and technology.
Oh shit you may be right but that still doesn’t change the conclusion of what I said. Yorozu, Angel, kashimo, sukuna himself, none of em replaced the brain of the person.
The same reason constantly Gojo’s RCTing his brain didn’t work and gave him brain damage. They literally explain that some part of the brain is like a “black box.” i.e, it’s not as simple as just using RCT to fix it as you would with your flesh and bones.
It’s not really plot when it was literally explained in the manga. If that’s the case then Sukuna even being alive at all is also plot because Gojo shouldn’t have taken brain damage and be unable to use UV either.
Sukuna himself explained healing thr brain is a different game altogether from healing the flesh and bone so while i agree him losing the 10S and not recovering his brain duo to the transformation is a little "plot-y", gege has made it quite subtle.
the explanation is ass because of his body, sukuna literally created and entire different body that is like 6,56 feet high 4 arms, a mouth in his tummy and an "armor" for his left eyes, not being able to heal his brain when he did that shit makes no sense
yeah, but is still a lot and i doubt that the energy to complete that reencarnation came out of nowhere, and i still doubt that reencarnation part because we didn't got an explanation to sukuna body yet, like atleast for me, should he reeincarnate in that form or in his actual original form? (human) i doubt that he was born a monster like that
No way of knowing before we get a confirmation on his backstory. Plus he got the deal with kenjaku when he was like that so maybe he gets transform led into that self.
You are getting downvoted but you are right. Reincarnation is supposed to restore his whole body as it was in the past, but then we find out it did restore his old body... everything except the prefrontal cortex which is still damaged from UV and the RCT.
yes, and for things like that after jujutsu ending the manga will probably get hated like naruto ending after the hype despite the manga still being good
He already incranated his brain partially if he didn't he wouldn't have his Cleave/Dismantle Technique stored in his brain (Megumi's brain)and Incarnated players have their former vessle's memories so they don't just rewrite the brain into their own cuz then they wouldn't have information on the modern era as was stated that they do have them, Sukuna even said that there are limits with the Brain 🧠 unlike Flesh and Bone.
If he can use shrine in Megumi's and Yuji's body it should also work the other way around (10S in his own body), unless he sacraficed the 10S in a binding vow or sum...
Na he sacrificed the world slashes ease of use instead of Ten Shadows(me personally, I’d sac Mahoraga-less ten shadows before i sacrificed the world slash that got Gojo).
you know how yorozu partly reincarnated and that's why she just doesnt heal once she gets slashed by maho (at least i read it somewhere feel free to correct). What if the first step is to at least in the case of sukuna to reincarnate the brain first so that his technique engraves itself into it.
That would explain why he still carries on the damage since almost all his body was still Megumi Fushiguro's but his brain or the part of it that mattered for jujutsu was his own. We don't have a confirmation but I think it would be cool and make sense
UV is shown to have an effect on Megumi's soul.
UV damage is a different type of damage.It creates damage with info dump.So probably the brain will be healed on its own when the brain processes all the info.
So it doesn't matter if Sukuna's output is low.The cast can't stop Sukuna from getting back his DE unless the heart has a relation to DE and Sukuna needs his heart back to do DE probably.This is my theory though.
(https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/12Qh5Wkuct)
Technically, you can totally have mental damage affect you physically. Think of Gojo using UV; it’s only a mental attack but people’s brains would fry and kill them.
>Technically, you can totally have mental damage affect you physically.
That would mean UV targets the brain, when we have supposedly established it targets the soul and overloads the soul with information, granted this confusion stems from not knowing exactly what UV targets since Sukuna redirected UV to Megumi's soul somehow, they share a brain that should theoretically have been fried all the same but apparently Megumi took most of the damage independently as a soul.
Even then, that just proves that it doesn’t need to be a physical attack to have physical damage. Whether mental or soul damage, both show physical traits when injured
The way I understood the second half of this, with the whole Sukuna passing off the damage (and keep in mind, this is just how *I* understood it, it could work totally differently in actuality) is imagine you have 2 computers. You give them both a super super complex math problem, but computer 1 (sukuna) decides it doesn’t want to fry itself so it passes the work off to computer 2 (megumi). Computer 1 can take the data of computer 2 and pass it off as its own, but computer 2 is the one actually taking the computational load. Normally, you’d only have a single computer (your own soul and brain) so it’d fry both, but in this case since Sukuna could shunt most of the work off, the brain stayed intact.
That seems like a coherent explanation, but how he can simply do that ? Eh, it's Sukuna don't worry he just can Ig.
Although partly I think it's incorrect because I remember Sukuna explaining that MS targeted him inside the domain clash while Megumi took UV's damage. so Sukuna was protected by MS's surehit but Megumi somehow wasn't so he got hit with UV. Could be wrong but I think that's the explanation.
Saying Eh it’s Sukuna, he can do whatever *is* a reasonable response…considering he’s literally a walking cataclysm of jujutsu knowledge. It’s like how Van Gogh can eschew the „rules“ of painting because he’s so talented, or a racecar driver can ignore speed limits since they’re so experienced. Everyone alive is essentially a baby to Sukuna, experience-wise. Honestly, I’d have to reread that chapter with a better translation to give my opinion on the Shrine targeting, so I’ll hold off on that for now.
Unsatisfying, sure I’ll take that. Contrived however? Disagree heavily. No more contrived than any skilled person being better than everyone who is unskilled. Keep in mind, Sukuna has been alive for a long time, living in constant life-death battles, for far longer than probably *anyone* alive at the current moment. Yuji has been through some shit, but he’s only been a sorcerer for a couple months and in fights for only a day or two total of that time. Sukuna has most likely actively been in fights longer than some of the current main cast has been able to walk. Makes sense he’d have some techniques that seem out of nowhere, he’s raw time been in more combat situations than anyone else currently in the story.
UV's sure hit seems to be pretty weird with how it works, at first, I thought it just overloaded the brain with info but with it targeting Megumi and not Sukuna somehow I no longer understand it, since theoretically Megumi's brain is Sukuna's.
Which still does not explain the actual brain damage Sukuna received. Sukuna somehow using Megumi's soul as a shield is pretty bs and was really weird imo.
The physical damage in sukuna's brain is why I say it's partially mental and not fully, but you're right that it doesn't make sense for Megumi to take the damage and nothing happens to Sukuna, it's just a pothole with probably no actual explanation
He offloaded the information/experience to megumi. But the information still causes brain damage, and they share a brain. It's like if he was on fire, he could make megumi feel the pain, but since they are in the same body, he would still get burned. That's how I understood it, at least.
Edit: The reason sukuna was even hit is because his sure hit targets everything but himself and gojos targets everything; so unlimited void was canceled everywhere but on sukuna.
My answer to this is an asspull, but I'm basing it off of Sukuna's statement. Here goes:
We ALL thought cursed techniques come from the soul, as this was based on Kenjaku's statements. Sukuna was the one to edit that and say that they are etched into the brain.
Now, based on that, here's my thought process:
I think, if a sorcerer is reincarnated into someone in the 21st century, then that person's brain is changed into the reincarnated sorcerer's original brain, and the 21st century human memories goes into THEIR BRAIN. Here's why: if cursed techniques are etched into the brain like Sukuna says, then the reincarnated sorcerers wouldn't be able to use their cursed techniques while having the brain of a 21st century human.
So with this, they already have their brain restored when first reincarnated, and when they reincarnate their body, all it does is change the rest of their body, like Sukuna. This would explain why Sukuna's brain was never altered.
A huge reach, and I'm sure they may be some plot hole to my statement, but oh well
No. The brain didn't heal because his brain was already overriding Megumi's. The brain was the one thing that didn't need to change at all to restore sukuna's body.
I assumed his brain was healed just like the rest of his body but his output was still low and was recovering as Yuji/yuta/maki and the rest of the gang further lowered his output until he used a black flash and regained it only to be punched by yuji
How I see it is that he had to half reincarnate his brain in order to use his own technique, while leaving Megumi's brain intact to use the ten shadows. The part of his brain that was already incarnated was damaged from the multiple DE, so the resumption of said incarnation didn't heal his brain. But he most likely will get MS back, but someone (most likely yuji) is gonna absolutely mollywop sukuna till he can't sustain his domain.
So Gege made the distinction between the soul information and body information so you could argue that Sukuna partially incarnated and it's been established that cursed techniques are in the brain so part of the partial reincarnation would have been to embed the cursed technique in the brain. So when he completed the reincarnation he healed his whole body but not his brain(?) so it would make sense that it didn't heal his brain.
I think it is.
The way I see it, incarnation it’s a total heal but it covers the body in some way so while the outside of his body was healed, the inside was not.
Since a CT is engraved on the frontal lobe you can assume that to use his technique Sukuna had to reincarnate at least that part of the brain, of which the injury stopped Gojo and Sukuna from opening their domains
Won't stop people from writing essays explaining whatever contrived explanation they can think of to say it makes perfect sense instead of just admitting it didn't heal the brain simply because Gege decided he didn't want it to for arbitrary reasons
Yes! Thank you!
It makes even less sense with the justification for why Sukuna needed a Binding Vow to kill Gojo being because he couldn’t form the handsign for it but….the reincarnation gives him an extra set of arms??
Why didn’t he just transform to kill Gojo? It wouldn’t be because he would lose the element of surprise because getting to fire off WCS all the time would turn every single sorcerer after Gojo into a complete non threat.
I assumed it was less being physically incapable of the hand sight but more soo even if he had 4 arms gojo seing he was charging up some big atack and just teleporting away
im not sure if this argument of mine makes much sense, but i think sukuna couldn't heal his brain by fully reincarnating because his brain had already reincarnated, if that makes sense.
we know cursed techniques are "carved" in the brain, so for sukuna to be using his cutting techniques in megumi's body, megumi's must have been "reincarnated" to sukuna's already. after all, sukuna partially reincarnated before his fully reincarnation in chapter 237, not that he didn't reincarnate at all before his full reincarnation.
tl;dr: sukuna's can't reincarnate his brain because his brain had already reincarnate
Tbh, I think he might not be able to use domain at all anymore. I'm guessing it was what he traded to be able to use world splitting slash immediately(with no hand signs and chants)when he was fighting gojo
It makes sense. I can't think what else he could have sacrificed that wouldn't have come into the fight yet
Either that or it's so he doesn't solo the cast
But this was a theory that I had sperite from and prior to this post, so I just wanted to share it
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Miguel described it as his domain being sealed. So there might be more to it than just brain damage. Like some weird jujutsu stuff. There's no real reason Sukuna should have his CT in Megumi's body, since they're engraved into the brain. But because of jujutsu rules, his CT remains in his finger.
It's just magic.
Yeah the incarnation being a free heal but not quite a full heal is pretty contrived. Like we know healing the brain with RCT is very difficult and has hard limits, but incarnating isn't RCT, it's a totally separate thing. The real issue at the end of the day is simply that Gege never fully explained how incarnating functions, and the one single time it's used is plot convenience for Sukuna.
its plot armor nothing more or less than that, we had a bunch when it comes to sukuna situation, like angel convenently reencarnating in a girl that loves the person that sukuna took the body (meguna), maki not using soul split in meguna in their first encounter when he literally was at low output, no one saying that sukuna have a open domain to gojo for some reason and letting him bet his destiny in the first domain fight, mahoraga convenently giving sukuna exactly what he wanted in the second adaptation, gojo not abusing his teleport ability to separate mahoraga from meguna, even maki not joining yuta domain, like, sukuna didn't had any way to get out if maki joined because he didn't had any way of breaking yuta domain at that point, he literally needed to bet his life that he would be able to resist for enough time to land his world cut slash in yuta and yuji, and even miguel literally waited kusakabe to be fucked to join, his condition to join was after yuta lost and for some reason he just waited both maki and kusakabe to be fucked
>angel convenently reencarnating in a girl that loves the person that sukuna took the body (meguna),
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/9tv0es00jv. I hope Gege explore this theory in the future otherwise it will be plot convenience.
>gojo not abusing his teleport ability to separate mahoraga from meguna
Teleportation has special conditions according to chapter -16 and he wasn't getting the chance cause he was busy fighting them.
>even maki not joining yuta domain
Sukuna perception blitzed Maki and landed a black flash on her as soon he tried.It shows that he wasn't taking things seriously until Yuta landed the Jacob's ladder.If the whole cast came into the battlefield simultaneously,I don't know what would have happened to them.
I don't know why you guys don't buy the **holding back** sentence when Gege explicitly tries to throw them to the audience by some characters.
>maki not using soul split in meguna,
Maki literally went for the similar type of killing as Nayoya.I saw a guy who showed the panel of that but Sukuna went out of there.
>land his world cut slash
Yuta didn't get the world slash probably.It was just an amped dismantle through chants.
>even miguel literally waited kusakabe to be fucked to join, his condition to join was after yuta lost and for some reason he just waited both maki and kusakabe to be fucked
Everything is happening so fast man.Why do you nitpick these things lol?
Also I don't think that Yuta stopped the Jacob's ladder.When Angel was using it in full power,that time it stopped automatically and after that Sukuna did the Megumi acting cause Sukuna couldn't do acting when he was getting fried and he didn't try to kill Hana lol.I guess Hana has to charge CE for the Jacob's ladder.So Yuta had to do the same and Sukuna while or after tanking the Jacob's ladder performed the slash.
i don't know how to mark specific parts of the text but about gojo teleport i didn't find that explanation you said, i will look for more later because my country only have the official digital version of the chapters in the start of the culling games and the physical is expensive so i don't have any.
the second point is wrong, sukuna was taking that part serious, he literally said the enchant of the world slash and the narrator literally said that sukuna needed to take the bet that he would be able to survive jacob ladder and release the world slash before he dies, if they jump him, he would not be able to cast and would just die, if he didn't take the bet anyway he would die too because yuji was lowering his output and control of the body even more.
and the third, yes, happened fast, but for the talk about miguel joining the fight, he was already there when all that happened so there's no reason for him to wait after yuta lost
Here's how I see it, when Megumi consumed the finger Sukuna reincarnated, but paused the entire process. At this point, Sukuna is in control of the body and his brain is the reincarnated portion. So he's been using his brain this whole time, but restarting the reincarnation won't correct damage to the brain. Due to it being the reincarnated brain.
Sukuna's brain was probably already incarnated given that he's the one who has conscious control of the body. Therefore, when he fully incarnates against Kashimo, his brain doesn't heal because there's nothing left to incarnate.
I have another question in mind. Why does Domain Expansion cause CT burnout ?
It should cause CE usage Burnout if anything else. Because you use a tremendous amount of CE to perform Domain Expansion.
Domain Expansion is bringing your inner world into Reality. That should enhance your understanding of your CT every time it's done as a beginner and should increase your CT Output as an expert.
But, it causes CT burnout instead ?
>It should cause CE usage Burnout if anything else.
No, it shouldn't. These are the mechanics Gege imagined for his fantasy power system and this specific one had been established since the very beginning of the manga.
This is akin to saying "haki shouldn't work like that!" or "chakra shouldn't work like that". Like, how do you even fucking know?
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Try thinking about it like this: The byproduct of reincarnation isn’t to heal the body. Reincarnation transforms the body to mimic that of the reincarnated. However, reincarnation is limited in its scope. What are the limitations? Reincarnation does not change the soul nor does it change the brain. Why? It doesn’t change the soul because two souls can never be merged, only mixed. It doesn’t change the brain because that would manipulate the CT of the vessel, effectively merging the vessel with the spirit, and we already know that that can’t be done. Also, “Ass pull” doesn’t apply here. Nothing has been pulled. If anything, something that could’ve been pulled was left in the chamber.
I swear to Gege, so many people don't understand the manga and complain about asspulls.
Fr especially when sukuna does literally anything people just call it an asspull with no basis
Even the whole "ah yes my anti-x technique" meme is really fun, but has no basis in the manga. Sukuna never used anything beyond Shrine.
I'm fact, GOJO is the only person who has said something like that "I haven't used this since I was a kid"
And Kenjaku was the one who kinda asspulled the anti gravity technique.
It wasn't an asspull, more like a plot convenience, Kenny showed gravity before Yuki showed Mass, an asspull comes out of nowhere. Not to mention, even if his CT was gravity, he could have reversed it and gotten anti-gravity anyway, so no matter what, Yuki's black hole wouldn't have done anything anyway
Even then, it makes sense for Gojo to know Falling Blossom Emotion since he's from one of the big 3 clans, and that technique is passed between the big 3 clans. Hell, simple domain is something he figured out on the spot because Gojo is a genius at jujutsu.
I literally kept asking where this is from and I’ve reread the manga and haven’t seen Sukuna do anything new that he hasn’t used since the heian era… I thought I missed a panel where he literally says that
The meme started when he didn't lose his technique against Higurama, but it spiraled out of control. I think Kenjaku literally using "anti gravity technique" helped the meme gain momentum.
The only really convenient thing hs got is confiscation working on his tool and not on the technique. I think it would have been cool to see Sukuna have to rely on his tool and black flashes/physicals as opposed to cleave/dismantle.
I agree
I mean, most people following JJK doesn't read the words, they are there just to see the pretty images
counter point: john werry
Cursed Technique: Azure!
Nah this whole reincarnation shit is never explained well. There's one line of dialogue that talks about it and it's vague as fuck. Don't blame people because the author doesn't explain shit. It's not an ass pull but it's not well explained.
What isn't clear to you? I think it's well explained, I'll try to explain it to you if you wish
Nah I don't need it explained now. The comment you replied to did that very well. My point was that this shit wasn't in the manga. The only reference to hwo reincarnation works is when sukuna fully reincarnated into four arm sukuna, and it just says that he unpaused his reincarnation.
Great explanation!
Source: it was revealed to me in a dream I do agree that if there was an explanation it would probably be something like this. Gege however hasn't said anything about it so really is there any point in looking for a logical explanation, you're just making shit up
There’s conjecture but the broader points were stated in the manga. Regarding intentions, I respect Gege’s writing enough to take his ideas to their logical conclusion.
Gege assumes his audience is smarter than it is. This comment section proves that.
Just wanna add, what a beautiful sentence. Too bad the game is actively and aggressively against this exact concept.
If it didn’t change the brain, that would mean uro/ryu has their host’s brain. Which seems untrue
Despite that, they do have all of their host’s memories. This is all just one person’s fiction though so the truth could be somewhere in the middle.
No it makes even more sense considering that. Uro, ryu, Charles and all the other reincarnated sorcerers are using their goats brains. It’s why they know stuff and understand the modern era and technology.
I think Charles wasn't reincarnated
Oh shit you may be right but that still doesn’t change the conclusion of what I said. Yorozu, Angel, kashimo, sukuna himself, none of em replaced the brain of the person.
Yeah you're right about the conclusion, I just think it's important everyone remembers Charles is juat an average French weeb
I mean… he is pretty far over the average weeb tbh.
I’m pretty sure it’s like putting the brain in another body rather then actually healing
The same reason constantly Gojo’s RCTing his brain didn’t work and gave him brain damage. They literally explain that some part of the brain is like a “black box.” i.e, it’s not as simple as just using RCT to fix it as you would with your flesh and bones. It’s not really plot when it was literally explained in the manga. If that’s the case then Sukuna even being alive at all is also plot because Gojo shouldn’t have taken brain damage and be unable to use UV either.
There was nothing healed here, it was a freshly new body.
Sukuna himself explained healing thr brain is a different game altogether from healing the flesh and bone so while i agree him losing the 10S and not recovering his brain duo to the transformation is a little "plot-y", gege has made it quite subtle.
the explanation is ass because of his body, sukuna literally created and entire different body that is like 6,56 feet high 4 arms, a mouth in his tummy and an "armor" for his left eyes, not being able to heal his brain when he did that shit makes no sense
I don't think he created it, more like triggered a process that he was halting before.
yeah, but is still a lot and i doubt that the energy to complete that reencarnation came out of nowhere, and i still doubt that reencarnation part because we didn't got an explanation to sukuna body yet, like atleast for me, should he reeincarnate in that form or in his actual original form? (human) i doubt that he was born a monster like that
No way of knowing before we get a confirmation on his backstory. Plus he got the deal with kenjaku when he was like that so maybe he gets transform led into that self.
You are getting downvoted but you are right. Reincarnation is supposed to restore his whole body as it was in the past, but then we find out it did restore his old body... everything except the prefrontal cortex which is still damaged from UV and the RCT.
yes, and for things like that after jujutsu ending the manga will probably get hated like naruto ending after the hype despite the manga still being good
He already incranated his brain partially if he didn't he wouldn't have his Cleave/Dismantle Technique stored in his brain (Megumi's brain)and Incarnated players have their former vessle's memories so they don't just rewrite the brain into their own cuz then they wouldn't have information on the modern era as was stated that they do have them, Sukuna even said that there are limits with the Brain 🧠 unlike Flesh and Bone.
thank you! body information ,soul information :)
So your saying Yuji has Shrine.
Logically he should, the same way hanna can use angels technique and kenjaku can use yuji's mom's technique
Kenny’s a tad different, but yeah Yuji having Shrine(whatever that is), is fun, wait Sukuna definitely still has 10 S then.
If he can use shrine in Megumi's and Yuji's body it should also work the other way around (10S in his own body), unless he sacraficed the 10S in a binding vow or sum...
Na he sacrificed the world slashes ease of use instead of Ten Shadows(me personally, I’d sac Mahoraga-less ten shadows before i sacrificed the world slash that got Gojo).
Prove it
One of the latest chapters tell you why he chants, I’m not getting you a chapter, you’d know if you read the damned manga.
Cope about it
Go back to TikTok, or YT shorts.
you know how yorozu partly reincarnated and that's why she just doesnt heal once she gets slashed by maho (at least i read it somewhere feel free to correct). What if the first step is to at least in the case of sukuna to reincarnate the brain first so that his technique engraves itself into it. That would explain why he still carries on the damage since almost all his body was still Megumi Fushiguro's but his brain or the part of it that mattered for jujutsu was his own. We don't have a confirmation but I think it would be cool and make sense
UV is shown to have an effect on Megumi's soul. UV damage is a different type of damage.It creates damage with info dump.So probably the brain will be healed on its own when the brain processes all the info. So it doesn't matter if Sukuna's output is low.The cast can't stop Sukuna from getting back his DE unless the heart has a relation to DE and Sukuna needs his heart back to do DE probably.This is my theory though. (https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/12Qh5Wkuct)
UV seems to directly damage your mind/consciousness through the information given, it's not physical damage but mental.
So why was Sukuna bleeding from his eyes if the damage was only mental ?
Technically, you can totally have mental damage affect you physically. Think of Gojo using UV; it’s only a mental attack but people’s brains would fry and kill them.
>Technically, you can totally have mental damage affect you physically. That would mean UV targets the brain, when we have supposedly established it targets the soul and overloads the soul with information, granted this confusion stems from not knowing exactly what UV targets since Sukuna redirected UV to Megumi's soul somehow, they share a brain that should theoretically have been fried all the same but apparently Megumi took most of the damage independently as a soul.
Even then, that just proves that it doesn’t need to be a physical attack to have physical damage. Whether mental or soul damage, both show physical traits when injured
Ngl I think Gege didn't think of any of this deeply
The way I understood the second half of this, with the whole Sukuna passing off the damage (and keep in mind, this is just how *I* understood it, it could work totally differently in actuality) is imagine you have 2 computers. You give them both a super super complex math problem, but computer 1 (sukuna) decides it doesn’t want to fry itself so it passes the work off to computer 2 (megumi). Computer 1 can take the data of computer 2 and pass it off as its own, but computer 2 is the one actually taking the computational load. Normally, you’d only have a single computer (your own soul and brain) so it’d fry both, but in this case since Sukuna could shunt most of the work off, the brain stayed intact.
That seems like a coherent explanation, but how he can simply do that ? Eh, it's Sukuna don't worry he just can Ig. Although partly I think it's incorrect because I remember Sukuna explaining that MS targeted him inside the domain clash while Megumi took UV's damage. so Sukuna was protected by MS's surehit but Megumi somehow wasn't so he got hit with UV. Could be wrong but I think that's the explanation.
Saying Eh it’s Sukuna, he can do whatever *is* a reasonable response…considering he’s literally a walking cataclysm of jujutsu knowledge. It’s like how Van Gogh can eschew the „rules“ of painting because he’s so talented, or a racecar driver can ignore speed limits since they’re so experienced. Everyone alive is essentially a baby to Sukuna, experience-wise. Honestly, I’d have to reread that chapter with a better translation to give my opinion on the Shrine targeting, so I’ll hold off on that for now.
He can, it can still feel unsatisfying as hell and contrived.
Unsatisfying, sure I’ll take that. Contrived however? Disagree heavily. No more contrived than any skilled person being better than everyone who is unskilled. Keep in mind, Sukuna has been alive for a long time, living in constant life-death battles, for far longer than probably *anyone* alive at the current moment. Yuji has been through some shit, but he’s only been a sorcerer for a couple months and in fights for only a day or two total of that time. Sukuna has most likely actively been in fights longer than some of the current main cast has been able to walk. Makes sense he’d have some techniques that seem out of nowhere, he’s raw time been in more combat situations than anyone else currently in the story.
Well, it could be both at the same time, I'm not saying anything as fact, just theorizing.
UV's sure hit seems to be pretty weird with how it works, at first, I thought it just overloaded the brain with info but with it targeting Megumi and not Sukuna somehow I no longer understand it, since theoretically Megumi's brain is Sukuna's.
Which is why I personally believe it might be at least partially mental/psychological damage
Which still does not explain the actual brain damage Sukuna received. Sukuna somehow using Megumi's soul as a shield is pretty bs and was really weird imo.
The physical damage in sukuna's brain is why I say it's partially mental and not fully, but you're right that it doesn't make sense for Megumi to take the damage and nothing happens to Sukuna, it's just a pothole with probably no actual explanation
He offloaded the information/experience to megumi. But the information still causes brain damage, and they share a brain. It's like if he was on fire, he could make megumi feel the pain, but since they are in the same body, he would still get burned. That's how I understood it, at least. Edit: The reason sukuna was even hit is because his sure hit targets everything but himself and gojos targets everything; so unlimited void was canceled everywhere but on sukuna.
wasn't it more like sukuna was able to protect himself by targeting himself with his sure hit but he did not protect megumi somehow.
How I understood it makes more sense to me, but I could definitely be wrong
gojo just did a number on his brain Tbh sukuna deserves SOME handicap after needed two CTs/bodies/souls to take out gojo lol
Oh, there is. If It had fully healed him, the story would be over, everyone would be dead.
He's just pretending to be be brain damaged to have some fun 🤷♂️
this is the best answer.
My answer to this is an asspull, but I'm basing it off of Sukuna's statement. Here goes: We ALL thought cursed techniques come from the soul, as this was based on Kenjaku's statements. Sukuna was the one to edit that and say that they are etched into the brain. Now, based on that, here's my thought process: I think, if a sorcerer is reincarnated into someone in the 21st century, then that person's brain is changed into the reincarnated sorcerer's original brain, and the 21st century human memories goes into THEIR BRAIN. Here's why: if cursed techniques are etched into the brain like Sukuna says, then the reincarnated sorcerers wouldn't be able to use their cursed techniques while having the brain of a 21st century human. So with this, they already have their brain restored when first reincarnated, and when they reincarnate their body, all it does is change the rest of their body, like Sukuna. This would explain why Sukuna's brain was never altered. A huge reach, and I'm sure they may be some plot hole to my statement, but oh well
No. The brain didn't heal because his brain was already overriding Megumi's. The brain was the one thing that didn't need to change at all to restore sukuna's body.
meaning?
The brain was transformed already. If it healed again, then it would have been healed twice
I assumed his brain was healed just like the rest of his body but his output was still low and was recovering as Yuji/yuta/maki and the rest of the gang further lowered his output until he used a black flash and regained it only to be punched by yuji
How I see it is that he had to half reincarnate his brain in order to use his own technique, while leaving Megumi's brain intact to use the ten shadows. The part of his brain that was already incarnated was damaged from the multiple DE, so the resumption of said incarnation didn't heal his brain. But he most likely will get MS back, but someone (most likely yuji) is gonna absolutely mollywop sukuna till he can't sustain his domain.
So Gege made the distinction between the soul information and body information so you could argue that Sukuna partially incarnated and it's been established that cursed techniques are in the brain so part of the partial reincarnation would have been to embed the cursed technique in the brain. So when he completed the reincarnation he healed his whole body but not his brain(?) so it would make sense that it didn't heal his brain.
I think it is. The way I see it, incarnation it’s a total heal but it covers the body in some way so while the outside of his body was healed, the inside was not.
RCT would do the trick if it was just about healing a wound
Since a CT is engraved on the frontal lobe you can assume that to use his technique Sukuna had to reincarnate at least that part of the brain, of which the injury stopped Gojo and Sukuna from opening their domains
Won't stop people from writing essays explaining whatever contrived explanation they can think of to say it makes perfect sense instead of just admitting it didn't heal the brain simply because Gege decided he didn't want it to for arbitrary reasons
if it upsets you stop reading? Who are you to say that it doesnt make sense, you didnt write the story. If you don't like it move on lol
No good reason why Gojo wouldn't kill the disaster curses first after expanding his domain in Shibuya
Yes! Thank you! It makes even less sense with the justification for why Sukuna needed a Binding Vow to kill Gojo being because he couldn’t form the handsign for it but….the reincarnation gives him an extra set of arms?? Why didn’t he just transform to kill Gojo? It wouldn’t be because he would lose the element of surprise because getting to fire off WCS all the time would turn every single sorcerer after Gojo into a complete non threat.
I assumed it was less being physically incapable of the hand sight but more soo even if he had 4 arms gojo seing he was charging up some big atack and just teleporting away
im not sure if this argument of mine makes much sense, but i think sukuna couldn't heal his brain by fully reincarnating because his brain had already reincarnated, if that makes sense. we know cursed techniques are "carved" in the brain, so for sukuna to be using his cutting techniques in megumi's body, megumi's must have been "reincarnated" to sukuna's already. after all, sukuna partially reincarnated before his fully reincarnation in chapter 237, not that he didn't reincarnate at all before his full reincarnation. tl;dr: sukuna's can't reincarnate his brain because his brain had already reincarnate
Why would fully healing through reincarnation solve any of those issues if regular RCT doesn’t?
Tbh, I think he might not be able to use domain at all anymore. I'm guessing it was what he traded to be able to use world splitting slash immediately(with no hand signs and chants)when he was fighting gojo It makes sense. I can't think what else he could have sacrificed that wouldn't have come into the fight yet Either that or it's so he doesn't solo the cast But this was a theory that I had sperite from and prior to this post, so I just wanted to share it
Sustaining enough damage from kashifraud? Kekw what the fuck were you smoking lmao
Is that not what happened?
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It healed damage done by gojo not the damage he did to himself
Plot reason seems enough
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Miguel described it as his domain being sealed. So there might be more to it than just brain damage. Like some weird jujutsu stuff. There's no real reason Sukuna should have his CT in Megumi's body, since they're engraved into the brain. But because of jujutsu rules, his CT remains in his finger. It's just magic.
I assume he sacrificed the ability to use domain permanently as the condition for his instacast world cutting atack on gojo
Yeah the incarnation being a free heal but not quite a full heal is pretty contrived. Like we know healing the brain with RCT is very difficult and has hard limits, but incarnating isn't RCT, it's a totally separate thing. The real issue at the end of the day is simply that Gege never fully explained how incarnating functions, and the one single time it's used is plot convenience for Sukuna.
Asspull. Use it often. Use it incorrectly.
its plot armor nothing more or less than that, we had a bunch when it comes to sukuna situation, like angel convenently reencarnating in a girl that loves the person that sukuna took the body (meguna), maki not using soul split in meguna in their first encounter when he literally was at low output, no one saying that sukuna have a open domain to gojo for some reason and letting him bet his destiny in the first domain fight, mahoraga convenently giving sukuna exactly what he wanted in the second adaptation, gojo not abusing his teleport ability to separate mahoraga from meguna, even maki not joining yuta domain, like, sukuna didn't had any way to get out if maki joined because he didn't had any way of breaking yuta domain at that point, he literally needed to bet his life that he would be able to resist for enough time to land his world cut slash in yuta and yuji, and even miguel literally waited kusakabe to be fucked to join, his condition to join was after yuta lost and for some reason he just waited both maki and kusakabe to be fucked
>angel convenently reencarnating in a girl that loves the person that sukuna took the body (meguna), https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/9tv0es00jv. I hope Gege explore this theory in the future otherwise it will be plot convenience. >gojo not abusing his teleport ability to separate mahoraga from meguna Teleportation has special conditions according to chapter -16 and he wasn't getting the chance cause he was busy fighting them. >even maki not joining yuta domain Sukuna perception blitzed Maki and landed a black flash on her as soon he tried.It shows that he wasn't taking things seriously until Yuta landed the Jacob's ladder.If the whole cast came into the battlefield simultaneously,I don't know what would have happened to them. I don't know why you guys don't buy the **holding back** sentence when Gege explicitly tries to throw them to the audience by some characters. >maki not using soul split in meguna, Maki literally went for the similar type of killing as Nayoya.I saw a guy who showed the panel of that but Sukuna went out of there. >land his world cut slash Yuta didn't get the world slash probably.It was just an amped dismantle through chants. >even miguel literally waited kusakabe to be fucked to join, his condition to join was after yuta lost and for some reason he just waited both maki and kusakabe to be fucked Everything is happening so fast man.Why do you nitpick these things lol? Also I don't think that Yuta stopped the Jacob's ladder.When Angel was using it in full power,that time it stopped automatically and after that Sukuna did the Megumi acting cause Sukuna couldn't do acting when he was getting fried and he didn't try to kill Hana lol.I guess Hana has to charge CE for the Jacob's ladder.So Yuta had to do the same and Sukuna while or after tanking the Jacob's ladder performed the slash.
The condition only apply to Gojo's teleportation when he want to teleport somewhere specific by having to mapit out
i don't know how to mark specific parts of the text but about gojo teleport i didn't find that explanation you said, i will look for more later because my country only have the official digital version of the chapters in the start of the culling games and the physical is expensive so i don't have any. the second point is wrong, sukuna was taking that part serious, he literally said the enchant of the world slash and the narrator literally said that sukuna needed to take the bet that he would be able to survive jacob ladder and release the world slash before he dies, if they jump him, he would not be able to cast and would just die, if he didn't take the bet anyway he would die too because yuji was lowering his output and control of the body even more. and the third, yes, happened fast, but for the talk about miguel joining the fight, he was already there when all that happened so there's no reason for him to wait after yuta lost
Here's how I see it, when Megumi consumed the finger Sukuna reincarnated, but paused the entire process. At this point, Sukuna is in control of the body and his brain is the reincarnated portion. So he's been using his brain this whole time, but restarting the reincarnation won't correct damage to the brain. Due to it being the reincarnated brain.
Sukuna's brain was probably already incarnated given that he's the one who has conscious control of the body. Therefore, when he fully incarnates against Kashimo, his brain doesn't heal because there's nothing left to incarnate.
I have another question in mind. Why does Domain Expansion cause CT burnout ? It should cause CE usage Burnout if anything else. Because you use a tremendous amount of CE to perform Domain Expansion. Domain Expansion is bringing your inner world into Reality. That should enhance your understanding of your CT every time it's done as a beginner and should increase your CT Output as an expert. But, it causes CT burnout instead ?
>It should cause CE usage Burnout if anything else. No, it shouldn't. These are the mechanics Gege imagined for his fantasy power system and this specific one had been established since the very beginning of the manga. This is akin to saying "haki shouldn't work like that!" or "chakra shouldn't work like that". Like, how do you even fucking know?
Fair point. My bad.
My head cannon is that Sukuna just doesn’t know how to heal his brain so it didn’t heal when he reincarnated.