Can the abused be brainwashed into sympathizing with and supporting their abuser? Surely there's a word for that. Someone phone Stockholm and see if they wrote it down.
Feminism is a supremacism. Feminist men are like the "house negroes" in antebellum American South: the slave that uphold the system that oppresses him because he is not in the worst position and can be in a quite comfortable one by tagging along his master.
Feminism being a bourgeois ideology, it is not surprising that the men who espouse such ideology come from that class, because they can sometimes benefit indirectly from that discourse.
Kinda stupid that I thought I was a feminist 20 years ago, it wasn't until I became an adult 18 year old, gamergate in 2014 and watching old thunderf00t videos when it was popular on youtube to counter argue christians as an atheist that I witnessed these toxic feminists infiltrating institution and demanding not equal rights but superior rights.
ooooo i should go look up thunderf00t's old stuff then. I've mostly watched his middle school science class level explanations of why Elon Musk is absolutely full of shit. Very helpful.
Best popcorn channel, for sure.
When SJW culture was coming into play thunderf00t experienced it first hand. He made a bunch of anti-feminists video exposing them. Those are good watch but the videos are probably 11-7 years old at this point. A lot of it still relevant.
this is the most annoying part of how feminism has gained political power
It's not like we didn't have people showing how stupid and cancerous the cult was from the start
Sky? Fuck that, i want to freeze the whole planet, cart off the frozen co2, and turn the entire thing into a garden and live on the surface.
We can go live in the sky on jupiter.
20 years ago was about the time things changed in femanism.
30 and more years ago, women were at several disadvantages, I agreed they should be supported.
Now, men face many of those same disadvantages. They should now be supported.
>30 and more years ago, women were at several disadvantages
And many advantages, like not getting sent to the mines or whatever war was trending at the time. Weird, you folks always leave out the advantages. Why is that?
I'm not going to defend traditionalism, because I'm definitely not into that. I'm all for actual equality, but feminists won't support that. You want advantage for women, under all circumstances. Even where women already have massive advantages.
Can a soldier be a traitor?
If he has ample reason (usually sex, groveling, being a white knight or crusader) then yes. A man can be. Doesn't mean he is any less pathetic
I have one 'friend', she is well known feminist in city where I live. I asked her the same question, her answer was - no, man can't be a feminist, man can only be pro-feminist.
This what she told me. I once met her husband who is by her words is 'pro-feminist'. I'm asking her some questions for time to time and can confirm - it's just supremacy group based around hate and with a goal to get privileged. They don't care about equal rights, men issues, rapes or anything, it's just curtains to get power. Sometimes if you replace words in their speaches you can literally got some old nazis or kkk speaches.
Like Trudeau says he’s a “feminist” just to get votes. Women are so stupid they believe his shit. It’s hilarious to sit back/fly on the wall and watch.
Sure. I’ve seen men argue men don’t deserve equal rights and women deserve to be advantaged. It makes about as much sense as a black person joining the KKK , but it happens.
Men seem to get pushed out. Warren Farrell was pushed out from the New York national women’s organization and the feminist subs seem to push any men over to menslib.
Didn’t mean that comment to sound hateful, so I’m sorry if it sounded offensive. I should have said that it’s like being a dog felinist, which sums up my confusion on the subject better.
Nah, never figured you for a dude actually. And by definition, a chick has no dick. And perhaps you should be seen by a vet for those mites. You might need a topical cream.
Feminism was never about equality. Even the famous one they site, women getting the vote wasn't equality. Men didn't, and still do not have a right to vote in a lot of the western world. They are granted the privilege of getting to vote, because they are entered into the draft pool.
A modern day, contemporary feminist? Or feminist in the original sense of the word? Because yes, a man can be but the context makes the outcome vastly different.
A man who is a contemporary feminist is a moron. He is inherently self-hating and must be an oblivious imbecile, because no matter what, the contemporary feminist will always viciously hate him no matter what he does.
In the context of a feminist back in the day, he's a man who's in favor of women's equity in the world. This guy can be whatever type of guy and be a reasonable ordinary person.
>A man who is a contemporary feminist is a moron.
Be fair; people today are raised to believe feminist talking points. They come at us from everywhere all at once; from media, schools, our parents, our pop culture. It takes more than intelligence to throw off a lifetime of brainwashing.
I am when I find a feminist. split bills, not opening doors, equality instead of equity, not opening jars, leaving the toilet seat up... no... wait... /j
The fact that the question even gets asked (and this isn't the first time I've run into it) shows that 'feminism is for everybody' and 'feminism is about equality' are lies.
For sure. I would say many men pick what they like from current feminism and use only those values that benefit them. Like this husband who belive in equality when it comes to carrying groceries. Whole PUA is based on feminism. Men are adapting and start to treat "equality" like feminst does. Even MRA is based on "theory" of feminism - equality.
Misrepresenting ‘Feminism’ as one big monopoly is a bit of a mistake when it’s such an immensely diverse ideology.
I’m confident there are some Feminist Ideologies / communities within feminism that share a more egalitarian approach that would align with core MRA aims, you’d just have to look a bit
i.e. point to the common enemy of harmful gender stereotyping or a more marxist-esc opposition to capitalism / the elites
i’m going by the ideological / social science based definition. ‘Marxist Feminists’ are an example i mentioned to display the diversity within feminism
i don’t really understand what definition you’re coming from
Feminism as the name correctly implies, means putting women above men.
And yes, I know they shield themselves with the lying dictionary definition for feminism.
> I think this whole thing needs to be discussed openly in Canada. It's like men haven't got a clue. Only a small percentage of men I have talked to have stood up for their rights!
I've tried to make these issues known in Canadian chats, usually got attacked by users and admins, muted and banned.
They still don't reach a mature stage where these things can be actually discussed.
There are men who cater to these progressive, self-destructive agendas. I think the term is Simp, who thinks somehow they will get some type of social credit from women. Pitiable creatures.
I guess they can. But they would have to be brainwashed. I mean, why would you associate with an anti-male, female supremacy movement?
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>lesbians I think were feminists too. They dominated him into doing sexual things with other men Lesbians did that? Why would lesbians want that?
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Best guess, it's a power trip. ?
Can the abused be brainwashed into sympathizing with and supporting their abuser? Surely there's a word for that. Someone phone Stockholm and see if they wrote it down.
Of course, there is no gender restriction on despicable stupidity.
Feminism is a supremacism. Feminist men are like the "house negroes" in antebellum American South: the slave that uphold the system that oppresses him because he is not in the worst position and can be in a quite comfortable one by tagging along his master. Feminism being a bourgeois ideology, it is not surprising that the men who espouse such ideology come from that class, because they can sometimes benefit indirectly from that discourse.
Kinda stupid that I thought I was a feminist 20 years ago, it wasn't until I became an adult 18 year old, gamergate in 2014 and watching old thunderf00t videos when it was popular on youtube to counter argue christians as an atheist that I witnessed these toxic feminists infiltrating institution and demanding not equal rights but superior rights.
ooooo i should go look up thunderf00t's old stuff then. I've mostly watched his middle school science class level explanations of why Elon Musk is absolutely full of shit. Very helpful. Best popcorn channel, for sure.
When SJW culture was coming into play thunderf00t experienced it first hand. He made a bunch of anti-feminists video exposing them. Those are good watch but the videos are probably 11-7 years old at this point. A lot of it still relevant.
this is the most annoying part of how feminism has gained political power It's not like we didn't have people showing how stupid and cancerous the cult was from the start
Which is why we might want to colonize the sky of Venus.
Sky? Fuck that, i want to freeze the whole planet, cart off the frozen co2, and turn the entire thing into a garden and live on the surface. We can go live in the sky on jupiter.
Kurzegast on YouTube has a video on just that. https://youtu.be/G-WO-z-QuWI
20 years ago was about the time things changed in femanism. 30 and more years ago, women were at several disadvantages, I agreed they should be supported. Now, men face many of those same disadvantages. They should now be supported.
>30 and more years ago, women were at several disadvantages And many advantages, like not getting sent to the mines or whatever war was trending at the time. Weird, you folks always leave out the advantages. Why is that? I'm not going to defend traditionalism, because I'm definitely not into that. I'm all for actual equality, but feminists won't support that. You want advantage for women, under all circumstances. Even where women already have massive advantages.
Nice Guy: Whiteknighting, Mansplaining, Simping
Can a soldier be a traitor? If he has ample reason (usually sex, groveling, being a white knight or crusader) then yes. A man can be. Doesn't mean he is any less pathetic
I have one 'friend', she is well known feminist in city where I live. I asked her the same question, her answer was - no, man can't be a feminist, man can only be pro-feminist.
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This what she told me. I once met her husband who is by her words is 'pro-feminist'. I'm asking her some questions for time to time and can confirm - it's just supremacy group based around hate and with a goal to get privileged. They don't care about equal rights, men issues, rapes or anything, it's just curtains to get power. Sometimes if you replace words in their speaches you can literally got some old nazis or kkk speaches.
Of course they can but the question is why would a man voluntarily choose to participate in Misandry though?
Like Trudeau says he’s a “feminist” just to get votes. Women are so stupid they believe his shit. It’s hilarious to sit back/fly on the wall and watch.
Sure. I’ve seen men argue men don’t deserve equal rights and women deserve to be advantaged. It makes about as much sense as a black person joining the KKK , but it happens.
Men seem to get pushed out. Warren Farrell was pushed out from the New York national women’s organization and the feminist subs seem to push any men over to menslib.
Technically, yes. But he would never be accepted by female feminists and relegated to being a leg rest for the other feminists in the room.
Never have understood male feminists. That’s like me being a white American Asianist.
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Didn’t mean that comment to sound hateful, so I’m sorry if it sounded offensive. I should have said that it’s like being a dog felinist, which sums up my confusion on the subject better.
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Nah, never figured you for a dude actually. And by definition, a chick has no dick. And perhaps you should be seen by a vet for those mites. You might need a topical cream.
Feminism was never about equality. Even the famous one they site, women getting the vote wasn't equality. Men didn't, and still do not have a right to vote in a lot of the western world. They are granted the privilege of getting to vote, because they are entered into the draft pool.
A modern day, contemporary feminist? Or feminist in the original sense of the word? Because yes, a man can be but the context makes the outcome vastly different. A man who is a contemporary feminist is a moron. He is inherently self-hating and must be an oblivious imbecile, because no matter what, the contemporary feminist will always viciously hate him no matter what he does. In the context of a feminist back in the day, he's a man who's in favor of women's equity in the world. This guy can be whatever type of guy and be a reasonable ordinary person.
>A man who is a contemporary feminist is a moron. Be fair; people today are raised to believe feminist talking points. They come at us from everywhere all at once; from media, schools, our parents, our pop culture. It takes more than intelligence to throw off a lifetime of brainwashing.
Original feminism yes, newer wave no or they shouldn't be.
I am when I find a feminist. split bills, not opening doors, equality instead of equity, not opening jars, leaving the toilet seat up... no... wait... /j
The fact that the question even gets asked (and this isn't the first time I've run into it) shows that 'feminism is for everybody' and 'feminism is about equality' are lies.
Jerry Springer was the "masculine feminist" on Married With Children, but hey, it was Jerry Springer
For sure. I would say many men pick what they like from current feminism and use only those values that benefit them. Like this husband who belive in equality when it comes to carrying groceries. Whole PUA is based on feminism. Men are adapting and start to treat "equality" like feminst does. Even MRA is based on "theory" of feminism - equality.
Misrepresenting ‘Feminism’ as one big monopoly is a bit of a mistake when it’s such an immensely diverse ideology. I’m confident there are some Feminist Ideologies / communities within feminism that share a more egalitarian approach that would align with core MRA aims, you’d just have to look a bit i.e. point to the common enemy of harmful gender stereotyping or a more marxist-esc opposition to capitalism / the elites
Then they aren't feminists.
i’m going by the ideological / social science based definition. ‘Marxist Feminists’ are an example i mentioned to display the diversity within feminism i don’t really understand what definition you’re coming from
Feminism as the name correctly implies, means putting women above men. And yes, I know they shield themselves with the lying dictionary definition for feminism.
> I think this whole thing needs to be discussed openly in Canada. It's like men haven't got a clue. Only a small percentage of men I have talked to have stood up for their rights! I've tried to make these issues known in Canadian chats, usually got attacked by users and admins, muted and banned. They still don't reach a mature stage where these things can be actually discussed.
There are men who cater to these progressive, self-destructive agendas. I think the term is Simp, who thinks somehow they will get some type of social credit from women. Pitiable creatures.