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waterboarding_champ

I hate that the Hulu version cuts literally half the matches.


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It does?


waterboarding_champ

Watched it last night and didn't see the Omos, Dom, or Ricochet matches. WWE sends Hulu a 90 minute cut, out of a 3 hour runtime. Sure, some of that accounts for ads, but do the math and it's obvious that Hulu only gets 50-70% of the actual content. Some weeks it's only 1 or 2 that get cut. I'm sure it has to do with match length, or maybe they consider the relevance to major storylines, but I definitely am suffering from FOMO over here.


Ded279

Lol could totally hear the ref saying "go for the finish" to omos.


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ShinHayato

I had no idea that was the general consensus. I thought she was pretty good


JacoBee93

It wasn’t. She was good and is great wrestler. But stale af now


offbrandjose

It isn't the general consensus Bianca kicks ass


onethreeone

> Kevin says he thinks the fans like Sami as they they chant for Zayn before they shift their chants to KO This is totally going to be a part of KO's eventual heel turn. Summerslam match where KO goes over, then Sami redemption against KO at WM?


onethreeone

Really appreciate the detailed write up /u/Darren716! I dropped cable last week but still want to keep up on the stories, and this is perfect


Daconvix

As a diehard Seth Rollins fan I kinda hope this goofy character soon dies out and he goes back to having a serious character again. Don’t know if they would do it anytime soon as they’re clearly building Cody to be the top face of the company


debeatup

Roman and Cody’s segment finally made me feel like I’m in Mania Mode - all the other builds sans O’tíççë and chickenshit Dom haven’t really been doing much for me. I was 50/50 before but I can’t see Cody not going over specifically because they need to kick off the Bloodline implosion arc.


lawtalkingguy23

What was the point of Bayley vs Rhea?


[deleted]

I honestly don’t know. Is Rhea the face now? It felt really random.


whalepopcorn

Here me out. After Mania, I think it's clear Otis will leave Gable. Otis likes to call Gable "Coach" so it could be good to have Chad Gable take 3 NXT "rookies" under his belt after Otis leaves him. He is looking for the next top person in Alpha Academy. Essentially, his own little faction. Could be a nice push for Gable to start being taken more like Angle - funny but always a threat in the ring. And one of the "rookies" could easily break out and eventually turn on Gable and defeat him to go onto a push.


mrbrucel33

Bron, Gable, and Gable as the new Alpha Academy? They get a Shield like push with Chad as leader and Main Event guy.


debeatup

Not a fan of the guy but at some point they will have to (?) finally introduce Steveson. For various reasons seems like pairing them together makes sense


ForIAmTalonII

Nah Gable just needs a single run for a while. Just him going after the US title


mrbrucel33

I disagree. He may have potential, but he's still very green all around. Gable's the perfect person to show him how to be a better sports entertainer while adapting to the pro wrestling side of things.


TheCVR123YT

Gable and Bron Breakker alliance 🫣


Nogatkee

Cody should win at Wrestlemania after tonight. Wonder how many Cross Rhodes will it take


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10 to put Roman down


fusionman51

It was a good show. I was there and the crowd was dead unfortunately.


popcultureretrofit

Is Carmella hurt? What's the story there


Rob-Rob_

I think they would have mentioned if it was a injury. Even Graves didn’t say anything so I’m guessing it was more personal


Singer211

She didn’t work the recent live events either from what I’ve heard.


CoyotePowered50

In my opinion, Rhea vs Bianca would have been better. And Charlotte vs Liv or Asuka should have been the match.


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The business goal is to push new stars for the future. Charlotte beating either of those 2 at Mania (again in Asuka’s case), does nothing for business; Charlotte putting over Rhea at Mania makes a new women’s superstar, which they desperately need.


BothAd242

While the goal is to make new stars, I’m not sure if we can say Rhea’s someone that can be considered one. She’s already won every title in Wwe other than the smackdown women’s title and she just won the rumble from the number 1 spot. In my eyes, she’s already a star and this match against Charlotte is more of a redemption match instead of a make a new star match. Frankly, I can’t see them making any new stars for a while since Asuka and Rhea will likely hold the titles for a while, at least multiple months or even possibly until the next mania


Orwellwasright1990

What they need is better booking. They could have the female The Rock & Austin in the division and HHH would still book it like he does now. Hope this changes.


bluesandals

\- Loved the Cody Roman face-off. \- Gable is a beast, can't wait for the next chapter in his story. \- Ford really impressed me against Theory. Usually, I think he does a bit too much but here he gave just enough. \- The build for Rhea and Charlotte has been a mess. Looking forward to the match, but damn. \- That KOD on Piper was nuts! \- Asuka vs Bianca, again, absolutely cold. \- Dom is improving at an alarming rate! \- Looking forward to OMOS vs Brock. I imagine it'll be Brock selling for 90% of the match and building to the F5. \- Loved Edge's promo for the HITC match, actually got me looking forward to it after feeling a bit of fatigue from this story. The ultimate blow-off match. \- Damage CTRL. Cold. \- Logan Paul might be better than 80% of the roster on the mic. It's crazy how quickly he's taken to wrestling. All in all, really looking forward to WM, haven't been this excited about a WM card in a while.


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WrestleMania 38 WrestleMania 37 ?


bluesandals

I loved 38 but I didn’t anticipate it as much as I am 39. That said, 39 still needs to deliver.


kaiya101

Were you watching a different Logan Paul segment than everyone else? It was pure garbage and it put the crowd to sleep


bluesandals

Maybe your TV was on mute, he was getting heat.


MikeHock_is_GONE

crowd was sleepy all night


RewiredThrone

Duuuude that was my first ever Raw in person and holy shiiiiii that was incredible!! :D the Pyro had me shooketh tho ;-;


Survivalgamer85

You don't realize how loud the pyro is inside a small arena until you go to a show.


TheCVR123YT

You can be far away and still feel the fire in anyone’s entrance


RewiredThrone

Oh definitely.


Dee4leeds

It's frustrating that Bianca Vs Asuka's build has been freezing cold because we all know the match will be red hot.


[deleted]

Every single feud of Biancas is like that. She doesn't have memorable feuds.


Singer211

The whole EST character, at least as it’s presented on the MR, is limiting in terms of what you can do with her feuds. And honestly Bianca is not great at selling her opponents as threats either.


[deleted]

Yeah but it's honestly been like that since NXT. She's been booked like super cena or Roman. Every single one of her feuds is about making her look strong. Like I get it, she's strong af, give me something else to her character


Singer211

She also played a heel in NXT at times, and was good at it.


Equivalent_Cost_4457

When was the last good hot women's feud? Sasha vs Bayley three years ago in the thunderdome? People insist Becky vs Bianca was good. It wasn't. It made no sense, went against what the crowd naturally wanted (babyface Becky) and cooled them both off.


Cheez-Wheel

Happened to Sasha vs Bianca too. All anyone remembers there is the moment and the match. Bianca/Asuka can’t replicate the moment, but at least they can have the match, maybe that’ll be enough (even if it could have been better).


togsincognito

Disgustingly Middle Class is the greatest throw away go fuck yourself burn.


shiitfuk

Don't think I've ever seen a feud with less heat than Asuka and Bianca.


Aburrki

Counter point: Bianca vs Sasha WM 37. That feud fuckin suuucked, the match was a banger though.


MadEyeMood989

Rhea/Charlotte is just sitting right over there. Both of the women’s feud are just heatless imo.


GucciGhostrider

Honestly they’ll be great matches I’m sure but neither should main event either night of mania, I think Ripley v Charlotte is a better opener for night 2


Baron487

Well the way that other feuds are going it makes more sense for Sami and Kevin vs The Usos to main event Night 1 and obviously Cody vs Roman main events Night 2 so I don't think either women's matches will be main eventing.


Drumkit5

Match will be amazing though


pmarlowe78

It will not. Bianca does the same shit in every match and can't sell a single thing.


ACW1129

Rhea has one of the best smirks in all of wrestling.


Transitionals

At this point I am too afraid to ask, but will do it anyway Whats the deal with name “damage ctrl” They are trying to control or limit the damage? Shouldn’t it be like damage unlimited or something? Why would you want to control the damage??


shiitfuk

Vince's crimes


xesgod

The implication is the women's division is damaged and they are here to fix it. Standard heel 'my presence makes this place better' rationale. It's not very deep but yea that's what it seems like to me.


TheGaxkang

yah Bayley at the beginning said she was there to save, uplift the women's locker room


polynomial82

I think you are right.


swagbolger

I don't care what anyone says. I fucking hate Seth's new gimmick. From 2021 onwards I tried to like it, but I fucking hate it so much... Glad everyone loves it so much, because I find it incredibly obnoxious. Which is a shame because Seth's legitimately one of my favourite wrestlers, and has been since 2015.


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2015 and 2018 beast slayer was peak Rollins


swagbolger

For sure! It's such a shame IRL stuff got in the way of fan perception of him in 2019, in particular, as he deserved a long-ass reign with the UC then... Like you could have 2018/2019 Seth with the same theme song as now, and I argue he'd be way more over, than his confusing, stupid character now.


PantherKorff

Fran Drescher laugh and Cam Newton wardrobe but he’s still really good


Cheez-Wheel

pattern wise it’s still Fran Drescher wardrobe Seth knows style don’t age


sennee_sl

authority seth was his best


inverseflorida

They even did long term storytelling with his feud with Kane.


GameplayerStu

Roman sells anything being said to him like his whole world is about to crumble around him.


Scavgraphics

It's someone vocalizing all the deep fears he keeps surpressed.


GameplayerStu

It’s crazy how layered his Tribal Chief character. The guy is coming up on a dominant 1000 day reign and even the slightest jab at him gets him insecure and paranoid.


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After all these years he's become a pretty decent actor


GucciGhostrider

I’m so excited to see how it unfolds after mania too, if he loses the belt I’m imagining him struggling to speak as he’s so mad at himself for losing the title, he’ll end up blaming all his family for his downfall causing them all to leave him


Scavgraphics

"Acknowledge me" is not something said by a secure person. One of the things so great about all of it is everything has been laid out in plain site, we just didn't realize it was important until they point to it.


JS19982022

Years ago when Heyman first explained in a promo why he sided with Roman, he talked about how afraid and alone and directionless he was, and he says that Roman acknowledged him. Everything about Roman's current shtick is all about looking for validation, for security, for reassurance. "Acknowledge me" is the peak of it


Andrei___

Great Show! Really enjoyed the Roman-Cody segment.


Transitionals

What an awesome show!! Crowd was 🔥 “You’re not ready” chants lol The Karen gimmick is so hilarious Gable - Ricochet was amazing Otis playing hard to get with both.. lol Opening by KO Sami was epic too The whole bloodline locker room scenes were intriguing as usual Cody is always super solid on mike


Longjumping_Excuse_1

Who’s Mike?


MikeHock_is_GONE

me


Switchc2390

I appreciate that last minute they realized the Rhea/Charlotte and Asuka/Bianca feuds have no juice and are trying to at least do something with them but too little too late to me and there isn’t enough there. Unfortunately WWE ruined the women’s booking this year for Wrestlemania. The money match was Bianca/Rhea with Rhea winning. Bianca lost all her momentum because she hasn’t really been fighting against a heel all these weeks and they haven’t treated her for awhile like she matters. Charlotte going into WM as champion is meh, but if they were going to do it have Asuka just be face with the new character vs heel Charlotte while recounting that Charlotte was the only one to give her a loss. Asuka says that’s the old her or something and we’re off to the races. They just didn’t put any thought to the booking this year.


Cheez-Wheel

> Charlotte was the only one to give her a loss That wouldn’t make any sense though, since Asuka’s done a lot of clean jobs since her loss to Charlotte


TheArmbar

Exactly. With Rhea vs Bianca I could see Rhea winning I also can see Bianca winning, with Asuka vs Bianca I just don't see Asuka winning, they didn't build Asuka up enough to justify her being the one to end Bianca' s 1 year title reign. The person that beats Bainca should get a big rub but I don't see Asuka gaining that much if she beat Bianca. Rhea would've gotten so much.


tabristheok

Counter point, Rhea beating Charlotte is her overcoming her biggest loss. I will agree that they haven't put anywhere near enough time into Asuka's new character. Unless she comes out at Mania and bodies Bainca leading to Bianca having to rebuild herself while Asuka tears through challenges, I just don't see it now. The match will be good, but I have no idea where Bianca goes next as champion, and I kind of don't care.


RIShane

I've said before about them possibly waiting for WM 40, but a factor here might simply be that they wanted Rhea on Smackdown. Even before the Charlotte feud it's been rumoured that she was potentially winning the Rumble to face Ronda.


Noahrules99

With the Bloodline potentially imploding at Mania, Smackdown is gonna need a strong faction. I imagine they’ll have Judgement Day take that position, especially coming off of Rhea (hopefully) winning the title, Dom’s stuff with Rey and Demon Balor vs Edge the group should be white hot. Even potential in Finn being the one to take one of the belts off Cody and being on Smackdown while Cody stays on RAW.


ptd163

I can admit when I'm wrong. Sami challenging the Usos for the tag titles and with KO and Cody challenging Roman were the right choices. While I would like Roman to make it to 1000 days I recognize the business side as well. If Roman retains he can't go part time, Cody immediately loses all credibility which they have no one left for Roman, and they would need to go another year with no world titles because with the way Roman's been booked he can't really drop the titles outside of Mania. So in short Cody has to win and that makes me a little sad because the 1000 day dream is very likely dead. All that being said this Raw really demonstrated just how much the women's division is suffering. After Mania HHH and co need to do a real deep analysis of the division, find out how it got so bad, and takes steps to be better. All the women performers are so talented. They deserve good booking. All in all, a pretty good Raw. Hopefully the go home show is even better.


kaiya101

It's funny how no fans can see how a redemption arc for Cody between Mania and Summerslam works. Roman isnt going to be on TV for quite awhile after dropping those belts and the Bloodline story is not done in a week and a half. Also if you don't think the WWE sees a chance for Roman to pass Pedro Morales' 1027 days you are crazy. SummerSlam will take him to 1070


GucciGhostrider

I hope they redraft the rosters after mania, the women’s divisions need new stories and some fresh faces to make it entertaining


Scavgraphics

I still think they split the titles at WM so they can have Cody win and Roman still go for 1000 days... I don't know how they do it, the \_best\_ way I can think of is Heyman shenanigans after the fact on monday...basicly a dusty finish on cody for the universal title.... It's not a good way, mind you...just best I can think of.


itskennylo

Women’s division has been absolute trash since Sasha Banks has been gone.


Equivalent_Cost_4457

Shes free of the increasingly boring, star-killing disaster of the WWE division and avoided the clusterfuck of AEW. The more time goes on, the more she looks like the smartest woman in wrestling.


Orwellwasright1990

Getting downvoted, but its true. And I am not even a big Sasha fan, but she would be jobbing in meaningless matches like 90% of the womens division. The whole division feels pointless with HHH's booking.


Equivalent_Cost_4457

Same. I guarantee her perception as a star would be dimmed if she was still there.


HopefulJellyfish2

Anyone notice Bray Wyatt as a movie poster in some of the match card graphics? If he was for sure off the card, wouldn’t that be a simple 5 minute edit for a big budget TV production?


Scavgraphics

I did notice...It's not that quick of a fix (replacing him in the image is quick, but re-rendering the sequence would take probably a few hours+)...might be not worth the effort, might be not thought of, might be they don't want to write him off til the last moment they have to.


HopefulJellyfish2

Good points, didn’t even think about the re-rendering process…shows what I know, last time I edited video was with I-Movie in high school lol. I agree though, probably just waiting until they’re absolutely certain Bray can’t go to edit him out.


Scavgraphics

Even if he's sick and can't be there, I figure he'll "have a presence".. something like Bobby comes out and says he doesn't have a match blah blah challenge, lights go out, comes back on and he expects bray, but instead brock clobbers him (My speculation is that Bobby was going to lose to Bray because mind games etc, and that'd lead him to rejoin MVP in a Brock beat down after the omos match. MVP specifically metnioned he wasn't with Bobby vs Brock at the start of the Omos stuff, stressing that Bobby's been alone...so he rejoins, hurt business reforms, and Brock vs Bobby the finale heads to the upcoming Saudi Show..... The above Bray fake out keeps that progression more or less intact.


DepressedHungarian

I feel like WWE just given up on everything except the Bloodline at this point. Everything else feels meh-to-boring, great stuff has been derailed over the months, many things doesn't make sense. I feel like they gave up on everything else at least until Mania. Makes you wonder who books the show. Correction: now that I think about it, I dont even need to fear Vince behind many creative things, albeit some stuff indicates it to me. I feel like Hunter needs to refresh, reshuffle the writing staff. First of all, Bruce Pritchard needs to be fired or move to another, non creative related position. New lead writer needed and new other writers also. The reason being that they are used to the Vince philosophy of writing. I actually feel like that is the difference. NXT felt better because the writing staff was picked by Hunter, Regal and all involved. Now Hunter is a bit restrained because he might give the proper instruction's to the writers, but they are not writing in his philosophy of things. If it makes sense, if you know what I mean


Bergkamp69

Is Bayley a jobber so they elevated bianca,Rhea in places of Bayley, Becky


dishonourableprince

Cody yelling “SAY WHEN” when staring down Solo popped me. Dusty’s baby boy is really about that action lmao.


Bergkamp69

My takeaway is feel like am watching a declining product WWE needs a reset maybe will come after WrestleMania


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Rob-Rob_

Lmao that happened 2 years ago and I’m the Lucky guy that had to sit next to him and listen to his crazy rants for almost 2 hours. Then had to speak with police afterwards so missed some of the show 🤦‍♂️


dearrichard

old as shit


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>https://twitter.com/fighthaven/status/1637770970667831298?s=46&t=t9Qu7LHwc0FTWQbc-G26RA hella old


JBrody

Great show. Felt like Cody was channeling a little triple h when he stopped to address Solo mid conversation.


crimson777

Anyone know what happened that caused Carmella not to be in the tag match?


TheGaxkang

i seen some talk that she is injured but there been nothing official yet is a shame, she just came back and pairing her with Chelsea was a good idea


Ok_Challenge5178

Super great show, i really enjoy it.


SloppyMcNuggets

The “whoa” from Cody’s entrance at mania is going to be crazy


Scavgraphics

honestly, the WHOA is one of my favorite things in wrestling right now.


solarpowersme

Man I absolutely love where Edge vs Balor is going, that Edge promo was the shit and I absolutely love when wrestling goes into mystical territory, this was absolutely needed to push this feud into the proper final gear. It being inside the cell is the cherry on top. It's like two forces who have feuded for a year in pretty grounded fashion that kept escalating now realize they have to unleash their inner beasts to end this. Fucking love when wrestling goes all anime man. This is the WWE I fell in love with and I will never for the life of me understand how people say this stuff doesn't belong in wrestling. The Edge promo also gave me major Bray circa 2017 vibes which I will always fondly remember, even though I've loved every iteration of Bray since.


TheGaxkang

so the lady in the front row at the beginning of the show on tv had a sign saying back "Project Fear" on Kickstarter Ghosthunters huh hehe [Project Fear by Dakota Laden — Kickstarter](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fearproject/project-fear?ref=thanks-tweet) anyways i wonder if there is any significance to it being Jey who accepted the tag team challenge when Jimmy was saying no. after trying to cheat, Dom-Dom got a clean win over an injured Gargano. good match really. poor Dexter had nothing to do tho. Rhea didn't come out for Dom-Dom's match, and he didn't come out for her promo, impromptu match. dunno why. i thought at first they were gonna have Rhea withstand Damage CTRL on her own, which would make her look real strong. but then Lita, Trish, Becky came out. they shoulda least had Rhea shout out that she didn't need their help. in the Wrestlemania graphic they noticeably have a Bray Wyatt poster....just bait tho? in Edge's promo it was like his head was disembodied. at the beginning i thought it was gonna come right up to the camera. XD how many times will Seth satisfyingly stomp Logan at Wrestlemania? at RAW they shoulda let the hostile crowd help Seth out when he was tussling with him. Asuka attacked Bianca...but it had no impact on the crowd really. Cody teases what the end of Roman's reign will look like, a Tribal Chief with no tribe and no Wise Man. Cody has to win....if Roman were to win there's nobody else really. he'll just retire at some point as undefeated.


MikeHock_is_GONE

setting up the future Jey turn on Roman


Scavgraphics

>anyways i wonder if there is any significance to it being Jey who accepted the tag team challenge when Jimmy was saying no. I wondered that for a moment "Is this a plan?" but then the fight after was pretty much all out, and I don't think they'll go to "I let them beat me up for the plan" as that's pretty close to just saying "we're fake punching all the time anyway"


cleeseula

Cody: "You'll be a Roman without no Reigns." Roman: "Jokes on you Cody the 24/7 Title is coming back on April 3rd!"


HardcoreKaraoke

The show was overall great. The Bloodline/Sami/KO/Cody stuff has been amazing. I'm so excited for WrestleMania. With that said I really hate that we're getting Rhea/Charlotte and Bianca/Asuka. Both feuds feel dead. Bianca/Rhea was the money match. That was the big main event worthy matchup. Rhea's awful promo just drove this point home for me. It wasn't awful because of her, it was awful because this feud is just dead. Face Charlotte vs. tweener Rhea just isn't entertaining. I know they're saving Rhea/Bianca for another WrestleMania. They probably want them both walking out of this WrestleMania as champions. I just wish they pulled the trigger now if the women are still getting a main event.


namdekan

The only part of the Asuka/Bianca feud that I had been liking was Chelsea and Carmella.


sixburgh7

I hope Dominik beats Rey with the 619 at WM then does Rey’s OG WWE entrance where he pops out of the stage while wearing Rey’s last mask the next night on Raw


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Bigger heat than Roman after beating Undertaker


Agent-Drakewolf

One of the men in that Montez Ford / Austin Theory match tonight looked like a future main eventer and it definitely wasn’t the US Champion. Ripely will likely win at Mania but she’s got a long way to go before she can call herself a certified main eventer in the women’s division. That promo tonight was a drag. Anyone else remember how hopeful we all were when Ali first came back under the Triple H Regime? *Pepperidge Farm does.* Asuka and Belair has been a shit program.


Webjunky3

Montez Ford has looked like a future world champ for a couple of years now. He’s really the full package. Marketable, good promo, great in the ring. Especially since he’s Bianca’s husband and they’re wholesome as fuck. I know they need him in the tag division right now, but man does it feel like a waste sometimes.


Agent-Drakewolf

This year has got to be the year he breaks out… especially now that Matt Riddle will be gone for who knows how long. And if it fails, they can simply stick him back in the tag team ranks similar to what they have done in the past with Kofi and Big E.


cleeseula

Hope Edge is OK that video to Finn Bálor is concerning.


PrinceRory

He's a disembodied head now. Balor is going to really struggle to hit a guy who has no chest with a Coup de Grace so I think Edge will be fine.


TGGNathan

Jeez I know Rhea should be beating anyone at the moment but I feel like I haven't seen Bayley win a singles feud or look threatening since before her injury


Bradshaw98

Nope, after she lost the title to Sasha her job for over a years was putting Bianca over, she has been functionally a jobber for a while now.


wwewonthaveme

I wish Bayley would just tell wwe where to stick their bullshit and leave.


tabristheok

These women's matches at mania are being held together by hope alone.


Phant0mreaper

Heyman's facial reaction changing in that Bloodline backstage segment, when he realizes Jimmy is talking about Sami and not Roman, lol Paul is killing it with his reactions


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Yes, I noticed too! Even Roman relaxed when Jimmy said Sami lol


crimson777

I’m sorry, I need Kota to turn face, she’s just too adorable. Even when she’s being a Hanna Barbara cartoon minion, she’s still adorable.


Switchc2390

Honestly the women’s division needs a truly face Dakota and a badass IO face character as well. I hope they split soon even though I’ve liked Damage CTRL.


dishonourableprince

Kota encouraging Bayley to get back up after Rhea splashed on to her on the outside was so heartwarming lol.


solarpowersme

I don't mean to be rude, and obviously she's talented in the ring, but do people actually enjoy this Bianca reign? It's the most boring woman's reign in recent history imo and it has gone on for too long, it's not even like the crowds even care about her anymore, nothing about her screams "must-watch", there's literally no reason to tune into a segment of hers, and it's sorta baffling that she's so protected? For what? The only time I've ever remotely found this reign interesting, apart from when she won it, was the mini Alexa feud earlier in the year and that was mostly bc of the circumstances surrounding Alexa. Plus, every promo battle between the two really exposed Bianca's shortcomings. She literally does not have a character. I also recall Alexa snapping on her and DDT'd her twice on the steps, and you had the crowd chanting "one more time", I don't think that's a very good sign for a top face champ.


Zestyclose_Remote874

Nope, but it's mostly the fault of bad booking. Bianca does have some limitations I won't deny that, but they gave her nothing to work with for the last 6 months.


TimeTimeTickingAway

She needs to lose a hair v hair match


Nogatkee

Yeah that's not gonna happen. Not gonna see someone shave a Black woman's hair onscreen


[deleted]

No, not at all. Reminds me of super Cena and I don't want to go back to that


TheArmbar

Rhea ending Bianca's reign should've been the plan. Bianca has beaten everyone and almost has to lose to Asuka since she has no one left to face after her. Rhea would've been perfect for Bianca to drop the belt to. They also fucked it by not turning Asuka heel which creates no juice.


DepressedHungarian

I just don't get why she had to go over Bayley. The fact that she went over Bayley three times lost me a little bit tbh. I agree with you that the Alexa feud had some interesting aspects, but the matches itself were horrible. I'd give a huge slap in the face to the match producers (mainly TJ Wilson) for making them look like they have no idea about wrestling. The only thing I loved about that when they recreated the Scary Movie scene. The thing with Bianca is that she has a John Cena-esque aura around her. Loved by kids, great charisma, great look to be a face of the Company. The problem is that they didn't really build up any credible challengers for her. Alexa went sideways completely, Becky was repeated ad nauseum, they killed Bayley's momentum and I dont even remember who else was her challenger. So yeah, not great. Bianca vs Rhea was the big money feud for me, but I hope they do it on WM40. Bianca faces the same problem that Roman does, just in a smaller scale: they didnt really build up anyone for her and at this point you cant just have her lose for the sake of change. Asuka was a great opportunity and I don't know how they managed to f this up this badly but here we are. I still hope Asuka wins and gets a good 200-300 day redemption run but I dont know, the feud is not good.


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It’s been a Hogan-esque run. She is also better at chasing and winning the championship, than she is holding on to it, especially for a long ass run.


Somerandomdickhead

> but do people actually enjoy this Bianca reign? Me personally no, her reign should’ve ended 6 months ago losing the title to Bayley after Summerslam.


SagatisGod

She's always been like this, but got the "two black women main eventing Mania" boost. Bianca is marketable with a specific group for specific reasons, but there's not much entertainment in her character. Compare her with Montez, who is constantly called a star in the making and can do it all


Switchc2390

Bianca’s character is entertaining as hell. The problem is the booking. You can’t have a face who is athletic and charismatic as hell and also winning all the time. There’s a reason the Rock lost so much..the adversity and everyone knowing how good you are but trying to keep you down by cheating, etc. makes people actually want to cheer for you. Right now there’s no reason to cheer or root for her, she wins all the time anyway. The reign has just gotten stale, she should have lost to Bayley months ago.


SagatisGod

The Rock was extremely over, which is why wins, losses, belts, etc. never affected him. He was entertainment personified, so he tried using himself to help get others/storylines over. That's why he lost as much as he did. Plus, he could go out of his way to switch styles when need be. Bianca's not that over, nor that entertaining or charismatic lol Again, there's a reason Montez is the stud in his partnership and relationship. Booking isn't the problem when she hasn't improved one bit since she left NXT. Women's division is the definition of complacency and mediocrity


Switchc2390

She was crazy over when her booking was better - towards the beginning of her reign. We disagree about her being entertaining or charismatic, but I’ll just say there’s a reason wwe has picked her to be one of the faces of the company who are at everything.


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Switchc2390

Bianca was at a different level of over and was like that all the way into her second reign. She was more over than that Rhea, Bayley, beginning face level. We’ll just have to disagree.


solarpowersme

Yeah I do think the demographic stuff is the key here, which does make sense business wise, but even so, idk why it has to be boring? Wouldn't you wanna do that effectively? I wish they gave her more to work with but they end up shafting the women a lot when it comes to giving them actual stories that go beyond winning the title. I know there's the whole "grab the brass ring" stuff when it comes to characters and stories, but if everyone has to do this stuff on their own, I don't get what the writers are there for lol, especially if that someone can't do it themselves and you make em your top champ. Wrestling is weird that way sometimes. Do you think Sasha leaving prolonged this reign? They've always protected Bianca to an extent but it feels like they amped that up even more after Sasha left.


DepressedHungarian

There is a difference in what we see in Sasha vs. shat WWE saw. For me and for many of us, Sasha was big money and a Bianca vs Sasha was big money feud. Unfortunately, given that she could be considered a senior by that point, I dont think WWE envisioned Sasha to do bigger things than Bayley does right now. She might've had a faction that jobs out to everyone or idk. Sasha is such a missed opportunity. I feel like some resentment against Charlotte and Becky comes from this fact, rhat Sasha had arguably bigger starpower than them yet she didnt get the same treatment. Same goes for Bayley, although she had a proper run with the SD title


SagatisGod

I don't think Sasha leaving affected her reign, as much as the quality and hype of women's wrestling on WWE's main shows not matching. Bianca was hyped up for years to be the next big thing, along with Rhea, but only one feels like a true star, and that was due to items outside of the women's division (Judgment Day). Bianca hasn't really improved in any aspect to me since her main roster debut. There's a sense of complacency in the booking of this division, but the wrestlers and fans also provide that same feeling with the encouragement of mediocrity tbh.


conoresque

Cody Rhodes IDC I'm so stoked.


Wynter_Warm12

Thank God they turned Logan Paul by the way. So much better.


Scavgraphics

the way he handled the WHAT chants... it's sickening how good he is at all of this.


times_zero

It reminds me of the year they tried to make Mayweather the babyface with the Big Show feud. After a couple of weeks of the crowd booing him they finally said fuck it, and made Mayweather the heel in the feud. In both cases the correct decision. Logan Paul to his credit is a natural in the ring, but he's also naturally unlikable as a human being, so trying to make him a babyface was always going to feel forced. Edits: Wording/Grammar.


jmpinstl

Dude was getting HEAT live in the building.


Nabz23

we can easily have Bobby vs LA Knight at mania, both looking for a match


kaiya101

Yeah!


Ironicopinion

I remember after the Jey super kick to Sami people thought they had just canceled all of his character development lol


revan530

Those people were always wrong. Relapses like that are typical for abuse victims.


mikemichaels

Just when my heart was mended from KO and Sami reuniting it's torn apart again watching Gable lose his number one guy 😭


AneeshRai7

Roman losing control of Solo is perfect. Eventually when the time is right, Solo should spike Roman on Heymans order and become his next big project. Then Roman can go on his redemption arc.


SagatisGod

Roman on promos is everything Cena should have been


alsran

What if they actually turned him heel


SagatisGod

Not even heel, just less goofy. Cena on promos no sells everything said, even now. Roman's expressions and swagger is just above prime Cena tbh


gregscotia_number1

Bloodline blow off and Edge vs Finn are what I'm looking forward too the most at Mania.


FalconIMGN

Not looking forward to see Dominic get his ass whooped?


gregscotia_number1

If Dom was a better wrestler... perhaps lol but I bet Priest interferes and helps him beat Rey Yeah the first few minutes of Rey kicking his ass should be good though


FalconIMGN

Yeah I see it happening. Priest helps Dom beat Rey, crowd boo, Bad Bunny comes into make the save, setting up a tag match fot Backlash in Puerto Rico.


gregscotia_number1

Yep lol we're thinking the same thing. I imagine some other fans are too. That makes all the sense in the world.


Wynter_Warm12

Roman is going to have an entire breakdown when he loses those titles and im here for Jey putting the final nail in that coffin after lol


Zestyclose_Remote874

"ROMAN REIGNS... WELCOME TO THE USOS PENITENTIARY!!! "


RatFace09

I didn’t watch when the bloodline was being formed but has Roman ever gone after Jimmy before?


Suplex-City

He beat Jey in the I Wuit match by choking out an at the time injured Jimmy Uso and when Jim came back from the injury he fell in line beside his brother.


Timbo_Mimbo

No, Jimmy just fell in line. Pretty sure he was recovering from a knee injury when Jey & Roman were going at it.


Suplex-City

Roman choking out Jimmy was how he got Jey to say I quit, forcing him to fall in line initially.


sjr2018

Yup been saying this for awhile.....I want to see a insane Roman breaking down and losing it on everyone and Jey getting tired of it and dropping him


Baldyjim

Gargano in a weird spot lately.


HopefulJellyfish2

Stuck in a holding pattern until Ciampa comes back would be my guess…


kazarn

Theory/Montez, Gargano/Dominik and especially Gable/Ricochet were all really good TV matches. Some decent wrestling tonight to go along with a phenomenal Reigns/Cody segment and some other great stuff like Rollins/Logan and The Usos with KO and Sami. The women continue to have a tougher time, however. Big contrast right now between men and women when it comes to booking in general and the build for Wrestlemania.


Really_Clever

I was sports entertained.


The_Notorious_Donut

BRING ON MANIA BABY


Kevinbarry31

So the Lashley match is officially off at Mania?


RampView

Are Bayley and Damage CTRL basically glorified jobbers now?


TheArmbar

Now? They have been ever since Bianca beat them all by herslf


DepressedHungarian

It makes me mad big time. They look like a bunch of idiots and creative doesn't give them anything that is not f-in stupid. They should've dominant for at least a little bit and then start to job out. I dont even know if Bayley won against anybody clean since her return. Shame. Dakota and Iyo deserves more also than being punching bags.


GrandGomez15

They became Jobbers the moment Bianca destroyed them at Extreme Rules


Terrible-Business-54

Feels like they have been for months tbh. Being a fan of all 3 members is pain


Groundbreaking-Cow-3

bayley = 2014 jericho


gl424

To be fair, every Heel not named Rhea, Ronda & Shayna(who's with Ronda by proxy) are basically glorified scrubs.......