He’s insufferable and immature asf. “I don’t think I could sit in a room with James” no one asked you to and you will need to if you’re going to be a parent two both kids. Glenn or whatever Kim’s fiance name is even had a talk to with him before he proposed to Lilly. He told him that he can’t just be a father to LJ but to also Aaliyah. I don’t get why Lawrence can’t just shut up and deal with shit instead of just making it into a problem or having a tantrum
Lawrence seems like he hates lilys daughter. I could never. She needs to realize her life could be better and someone can love BOTH her kids. Lawrence is not it
I love Lily. I don’t like Lawrence. I get that he works to provide for the family so he may be tired, but I haven’t liked him since he showed indifference toward Aaliyah. That’s so wrong.
Idk what I would do if my husband sat on his phone/ass while I handled Christmas for the kids and our family by myself. Like literally, idk how we would come back from that. It blows my damn mind.
I don’t really like either of them because they’re so boring but they strike me as the type of couple to only stay together so they don’t have to restart with other people. They just don’t even seem like they even like each other. Both insufferable to me but I honestly think Lilly is worse than he is. She’s actually lazy and seems to not have any ambitions. He is just an annoying traditional man that thinks his job is done when he walks in the door.
Then you’re not looking at the bigger pictures these girls make money from the show and social media. She also runs a business and does ads on top of the show. She takes away daycare costs by staying home and they live in her childhood home. Lily has provided more for her family than him. Not that it’s a bad thing but she definitely supports in every single way
Lily needs to finally grow up and live on her own to see how little she’s able to do (even without the kids!), Lawrence needs to get his own therapy and some time taking care of his son on his own to see how much work it is, they need time apart so they can both work on themselves and get out of the vicious cycle they’re in, Lily needs to learn how to set boundaries and rules for her kids so they’re not becoming bratty, they both need to learn there’s a meeting place between letting a kid run amok and yelling or spanking a kid (not sure if he’s done either cuz I’m not fully caught up but I can just tell they have different parenting styles and cultural differences on how kids talk to adults), and they both need to lock up their phones for a weekend and realize how much they’re missing with the kids and how that attention absence makes kids act out to get their attention.
Agreed to ALL you said!!! 100% I do like them and I’m hoping for the best, but if they don’t do some real communicating they are going to end in divorce before they get married.
Y’all over here fighting over whether he’s wrong or not, he came into this knowing who Lily was and how she is and the fact that she had a kid and it took him so long to be nice to Aaliyah until a couple years after LJ (his son) he eased up but you can tell he plays it up for the cameras. Aaliyah is not amused when he puts on the nice guy persona she knows he’s quickly angered. I get that Lily is very dependent, than Lawrence should have left a long time ago and never had a kid with her or married her, it’s clear she’s never going to grow up and that was never his responsibility until he made it his. I think it’s a control issue as well seems like he doesn’t want to let Lily do much of anything than be a housewife and then gets mad and talks shit to her that she doesn’t do enough. They’re on 2 different pages and those defending Lawrence or Lily is wrong. She’s immature and needs to go back to mommy’s house, he’s a spazz and is mad at the responsibility he gave himself. I won’t be surprised if he finally lets his anger get the best of him and hurts Lily if he hasn’t behind closed doors already. There’s severe signs of abuse and you can see how cold he looks at her or how mean or intimidating. Whatever they do they shouldn’t get married. They’re both wrong and his mom is only so open to it because she doesn’t have to live with them or know their dynamic. Lilys mom watched how Lawrence and Lily argued and fought every day over little things in her house, she knew they shouldn’t be on their own. I get where Kim is coming from and Lawrence mom should be on her side too. They wanna play house but can’t handle minor inconveniences. Lawrence needs to live on his own.
I think it's far more complicated than an attitude problem. He needs to stop being resentful for a life he chose. She needs to stop being a door mat (for her children as well). Watching them, it feels like they had this whole plan for what domestic life looked like. They implemented it, and now they hate it, but no one's going to say it. I see that there's love. I believe he would respond well to her showing backbone. She could be happier if she admitted she needs things to be different, and it doesn't mean she doesn't love her family. I have not been in their situation specifically, but I have had a plan that went as it was supposed to, but it was just not what I thought.
Heaving on the “He needs to stop being resentful for a life he chose.”
Lawrence chose to have sex with Lily, which led to him becoming a dad (Aaliyah aside). He also chose to propose to Lily. He also chose to move in with her. So honestly he needs to stop complaining and having a chip on his shoulder about certain things. He put himself in this situation with Lily
I definitely agree! I think if it wasn’t for Lilly’s sister getting that boutique she would’ve still been a SAHM. Nothing is wrong with that but at least take some of that financial pressure off of Lawrence. Also this show doesn’t pay them that much. Even if she was returning.
Raising 2 young kids is just as exhausting as 2 jobs… I swear! 🥹
I think they both work equally hard and should’ve handled Christmas together as a team.
No offense my mom was a single mom of two If my mom was able to go to school and go to work full time with no help Lily can too ! She doesn’t work or drive and I was taught regardless on your gender if you’re gonna stay home you have to cook and clean
Exactly. I also think he just doesn’t do well or like the cameras. I’m sure he’s doing it for the little bit of help financially so he can make Lily happy and have the wedding she insists on and all of the other expenses. I was irritated with her myself about how overboard she was with Xmas and her nonstop demands for the fancy wedding and other spending. I notice how he is with Aaliyah and the subtle silly faces and everything. He’s just not a demonstrative guy.
It’s always Lawrence hate on here. Lol People forget that he’s working and carrying the heavy load of providing for his family and they are young. There is not much structure or discipline and people do get tired. In addition to that, those behind the scenes know that the best way to get people talking is to present negativity and they do that heavily with Lawrence. It’s peculiar to me that people like to act blind to how Lily is but have him under a Microsoft when he is literally doing his best to be a man and navigate giving BOTH of these children what he and Lily lacked: An active and present biological dad. He will find his groove, as will Lily, and it will reflect upon their children. They just have to find balance.
The constant abuse accusations are especially unnecessary and unfair too. There’s been absolutely nothing to show him acting abusively towards anyone and it’s a pretty disgusting thing to label someone without anything behind it. I’m getting out of a abusive long marriage and it makes me sick to see these constant nonsense remarks about the guy.
I am in agreement with you on this as well. I think people take his tone as abuse, but he and Lily communicate exactly the same way. They are both dismissive of one another at times and they both acknowledge it. Neither of them are abusive. Childish at times? Very. Lol But it is apparent that there is no fear, worry, concern or qualms in either of them regarding how they talk to one another and that speaks volumes in and of itself. Lily doesn’t shrink from him, she doesn’t get silent, nothing that would indicate abuse outright or subliminally.
He seems really unhappy. It also seems like he isn’t particularly nice to the daughter that’s not his biological child but hopefully that’s just the edit.
Even in photos of them that they have around the house that they showed he’s never looking at Aaliyah, only at LJ.
If he hates Aaliyah’s dad so much that he can’t be an adult and tolerate being around him for Aaliyah’s sake, imagine how he feels about Aaliyah.
He’s been on for how many seasons now? I have a feeling it’s really not the edit. You can’t edit that much rage and emptiness into a person’s eyes.
And how does he look a decade older, at least? He has deep forehead wrinkles at 22?
It’s scary how he doesn’t see anything wrong with his behavior; he (still) always blames everyone else. And he’s still got rage issues and is still an immature misogynist who doesn’t value what Lily does all day (but also this sub seems to loathes Lily so….I don’t bc bc if most people here do either).
I don’t agree with her lax AF parenting, but I was a teacher for years; I taught mainly grade 4 kids. I had 3 weeks where I subbed for a kindergarten teacher and it felt like 3 months. It was exhaustingggg. And there were only 25 of them; I was used to public school classes of 36-39.
If you’re interacting with such young children and cleaning as well and keeping up with them, feeding them, helping them with the toilet and with clean-up, that’s the energy of 3 full time jobs. It’s emotionally, physically, mentally exhausting. Lawrence has NO IDEA what it’s like and he’s made it clear in the past that he thinks this is “women’s work” 🙄
Every time he starts talking about how much he works I’m like
And she’s like “I’m so in love with him” like girl in love with watching him on his phone? Can’t even watch the kids open gifts… complains about literally everything.
That reasoning is so ridiculous. I work. I leave work and immediately go home to parent my children. No person should use that excuse, he’s such a clown.
He should’ve waited to propose to Lily. I don’t think he fully regrets that decision. BUT if he could go back in time and not get her pregnant and subsequently not propose… he would 100% do that. And who can blame him? I don’t know anyone that would want to be in his situation 🥴
I’m conflicted about their dynamic as a couple. Watching the Christmas morning episode was frustrating because it looks as if he didn’t lift a finger the whole time but then I remember that the whole show is cut to spin a narrative that isn’t necessarily what “real life” is.
I was surprised that he didn't even know what she bought for the kids. Even if she ordered everything online, wouldn't she show him? He seems so disconnected. He thinks his only contribution should be that he goes to work.
Meh I don’t think anything of that. My husband stays home and is an awesome dad that’s super involved but holidays are all me. He just doesn’t care about gifts much so it’s not his thing and I love holidays. Maybe that’s not the case for them but it’s not that serious of a thing
This is a huge reason why I don't want kids. So many men just go to work and come home and that's it—mom is the default parent even if she works too. And thanks to birth control I can plan to not be a parent and keep my life exactly how I want it (crazy concept to these girls, lmfao)
My husband often has no idea and he’s an extremely involved parent, and does a ton around the house even though I stay home. Unless it’s something big we discussed it’s usually a surprise for him as well lol. He doesn’t care that much and I spend more time with the kids and know what they have already more than he does so I usually pick.
My husband doesn't really know what our son is getting for Christmas until he opens his presents. As long as I stick to the budget we both agree on he doesn't really care if I show him everything. But he does help me put together the big stuff and put everything out.
Didn’t lift a finger before then either! He just seemed so surprised by what was there. He literally said “This is a lot of stuff…” It did look like a lot, and you knew none of this? 🤔
He was lifting plenty of fingers and other shit when he worked his ass off to make the money that pays for all that plastic useless crap. Christmas isn’t about material bullshit. Buy your kids a couple meaningful presents and a stuffed stocking, that’s all they need. Even if they had the money(which they probably don’t), this is tacky superficial nonsense.
This is how some relationships are when it comes to holidays, shopping, gift giving, one partner takes on a majority of the load either by desire or necessity. Lilly said she enjoys spoiling the kids - Lawrence did seem surprised but not really upset per se, so it might just make sense that she did the bulk of the shopping because she likes to.
Oh there’s definitely a lot of editing, and they can spin it how they want but lily herself has said that he comes home, sits on his phone, and doesn’t help much. Those were her words and it wasn’t just about Christmas, you can tell from how she worded it that this is common behavior for him. Now “why” he’s like that is up for speculation, but when she’s said herself that’s what he’s like everyday I think we can assume she’s probably being honest
Oh fs fs, and I’m not a Lawrence fan by any stretch but I’m rooting for them as a family if that makes sense?? They’re young and they’re learning. And working is hard and tiring and so is being a SAHP, and I don’t have the answer except for that it gets a LITTLE better when kids get older. With this episode I was annoyed that he didn’t seem to be helping but then I was annoyed that she agreed to host brunch, like don’t add that stress on yourself! And with the whole wedding announcement- like girl get married through the courts have a small party/reception and use the rest of that money to pay for a part time nanny/house cleaner so you can get your drivers license and be a little more independent.
Okay I waaaaay got off topic haha but I’m invested I guess :)
Oh I completely agree with ALL of that! Idt either one (fully) realized what they were signing up for. Being the only financial provider is stressful (granted they didn’t have to buy the house probably just take over the mortgage) and being the default parent is too. Idt they fully realize how hard it is on the other. I wasn’t a teen parent and I still had to sit down with my spouse and have that talk bc we were both exhausted and stressed. We had to learn how to take things off the others plate. I’m totally rooting for them! I really do hope they figure it out
Right?! Not a teen parent either, married at 25 first kid at 26 - and it was still hard! You make such a great point about taking things off each other’s plates, those are difficult conversations to have. I hope Lawrence is actually more hands on when the crew isn’t present and that she was maybe generalizing but if he really isn’t helping her, I hope they’re able to communicate specific needs/wants.
Just stop. While he isn't the most helpful around the house, he is not lazy. He works outside the home and seems to have been raised to think that's enough. Not at all defending Lawrence, but if anyone is lazy it's the girl he's with.
Lily is very spoiled and people talk about how she has made something of herself (i.e., in comparison to other cast members - like jenna).
Like girl, I could make something of myself too if my family did everything for me.
Unexpected does not pay these girls the luxury to be a SAHM. Now I am very happy she has the boutique now but if it wasn’t for Kim and Glenn and Sandy. Lilly and Lawrence would’ve been lost. Lilly was still living in that fantasy land, where she wanted everything but didn’t want to work for it. That’s how she came off. Now I definitely see a difference in her on social media when she does the store promo!
No one said it wasn't a job. Lily, however, barely does that. Her mom has to pick up her kid from school. Her mom has to take her kid to the doctor. Her kids lack discipline. When is she working as a SAHM, without mommy's help?
& the entire time she stayed home with her children, right? so she was a SAHM. the alternative is work full time and out ur entire paycheck into day care which seems pointless if you can live at home
Her entire paycheck? You mean the one from the show and what her mom provides for her? Oh no...would hate to see her apply herself and at least attend a trade school.
Have a good day and stop trying to make it sound like this subreddit doesn't support SAHM's because we do.
yeah, the less than minimum wage tv pays wouldn’t pay for daycare. i also doubt she would want to put that on her mom/ her mom would want to be the primary caregiver for over 8 hours a day
should every SAHM go to trade school? that’s the only way a mother can prove they apple themselves if they stay home?
Lily was paid 1k PER episode and is now paid 2500 PER episode. None of this includes her social media media she receives with her product reviews and sales of pics and stories to magazine editors.
should every sahm go to trade school? Not necessarily but when you are a teen having a baby you absolutely should to benefit your future because you are you g and not established in life.
You okay fam? I'm done replying to your nonsense. Are you taking this personally? Have a good one, fam!
some seasons have 14 episodes… 35,000 would not cover day care. & i got it.. not every SAHM needs to go to trade school, only the ones who had their baby as a teen. makes sense!
i think it’s funny that u assume i had something personal happen to actually care ab SAHM when i’m child free.. u can care ab things that don’t impact u 🫶🏼🫶🏼
You realize college isnt 40+ hours a week right? Most community colleges have classes that are for working people and SAHMs. With 2 kids she would get a decent amount of financial aid.
Lawrence is a walking red flag! He seems to check a lot of the boxes of a closeted abuser. At the very least, he has the personality of a doorknob.
He’s insufferable and immature asf. “I don’t think I could sit in a room with James” no one asked you to and you will need to if you’re going to be a parent two both kids. Glenn or whatever Kim’s fiance name is even had a talk to with him before he proposed to Lilly. He told him that he can’t just be a father to LJ but to also Aaliyah. I don’t get why Lawrence can’t just shut up and deal with shit instead of just making it into a problem or having a tantrum
Lawrence seems like he hates lilys daughter. I could never. She needs to realize her life could be better and someone can love BOTH her kids. Lawrence is not it
I love Lily. I don’t like Lawrence. I get that he works to provide for the family so he may be tired, but I haven’t liked him since he showed indifference toward Aaliyah. That’s so wrong.
Idk what I would do if my husband sat on his phone/ass while I handled Christmas for the kids and our family by myself. Like literally, idk how we would come back from that. It blows my damn mind.
I don’t really like either of them because they’re so boring but they strike me as the type of couple to only stay together so they don’t have to restart with other people. They just don’t even seem like they even like each other. Both insufferable to me but I honestly think Lilly is worse than he is. She’s actually lazy and seems to not have any ambitions. He is just an annoying traditional man that thinks his job is done when he walks in the door.
lily isn’t lazy. I’d bet Lilly makes more than him and stays home and take care of two kids.
No lily is lazu
Then you’re not looking at the bigger pictures these girls make money from the show and social media. She also runs a business and does ads on top of the show. She takes away daycare costs by staying home and they live in her childhood home. Lily has provided more for her family than him. Not that it’s a bad thing but she definitely supports in every single way
And probably has done that now in the newest season she wasn’t
Lily needs to finally grow up and live on her own to see how little she’s able to do (even without the kids!), Lawrence needs to get his own therapy and some time taking care of his son on his own to see how much work it is, they need time apart so they can both work on themselves and get out of the vicious cycle they’re in, Lily needs to learn how to set boundaries and rules for her kids so they’re not becoming bratty, they both need to learn there’s a meeting place between letting a kid run amok and yelling or spanking a kid (not sure if he’s done either cuz I’m not fully caught up but I can just tell they have different parenting styles and cultural differences on how kids talk to adults), and they both need to lock up their phones for a weekend and realize how much they’re missing with the kids and how that attention absence makes kids act out to get their attention.
Agreed to ALL you said!!! 100% I do like them and I’m hoping for the best, but if they don’t do some real communicating they are going to end in divorce before they get married.
Y’all over here fighting over whether he’s wrong or not, he came into this knowing who Lily was and how she is and the fact that she had a kid and it took him so long to be nice to Aaliyah until a couple years after LJ (his son) he eased up but you can tell he plays it up for the cameras. Aaliyah is not amused when he puts on the nice guy persona she knows he’s quickly angered. I get that Lily is very dependent, than Lawrence should have left a long time ago and never had a kid with her or married her, it’s clear she’s never going to grow up and that was never his responsibility until he made it his. I think it’s a control issue as well seems like he doesn’t want to let Lily do much of anything than be a housewife and then gets mad and talks shit to her that she doesn’t do enough. They’re on 2 different pages and those defending Lawrence or Lily is wrong. She’s immature and needs to go back to mommy’s house, he’s a spazz and is mad at the responsibility he gave himself. I won’t be surprised if he finally lets his anger get the best of him and hurts Lily if he hasn’t behind closed doors already. There’s severe signs of abuse and you can see how cold he looks at her or how mean or intimidating. Whatever they do they shouldn’t get married. They’re both wrong and his mom is only so open to it because she doesn’t have to live with them or know their dynamic. Lilys mom watched how Lawrence and Lily argued and fought every day over little things in her house, she knew they shouldn’t be on their own. I get where Kim is coming from and Lawrence mom should be on her side too. They wanna play house but can’t handle minor inconveniences. Lawrence needs to live on his own.
Very well said! I agree!
He’s in love with his phone
I think it's far more complicated than an attitude problem. He needs to stop being resentful for a life he chose. She needs to stop being a door mat (for her children as well). Watching them, it feels like they had this whole plan for what domestic life looked like. They implemented it, and now they hate it, but no one's going to say it. I see that there's love. I believe he would respond well to her showing backbone. She could be happier if she admitted she needs things to be different, and it doesn't mean she doesn't love her family. I have not been in their situation specifically, but I have had a plan that went as it was supposed to, but it was just not what I thought.
Heaving on the “He needs to stop being resentful for a life he chose.” Lawrence chose to have sex with Lily, which led to him becoming a dad (Aaliyah aside). He also chose to propose to Lily. He also chose to move in with her. So honestly he needs to stop complaining and having a chip on his shoulder about certain things. He put himself in this situation with Lily
How does Lilly not drive?
When was she gonna learn? She's stuck with them babies all the time
He legit does everything he has 2 jobs and drives everywhere Lily doesn’t have her license he’s not lazy he’s exhausted and Lily should help out more
I definitely agree! I think if it wasn’t for Lilly’s sister getting that boutique she would’ve still been a SAHM. Nothing is wrong with that but at least take some of that financial pressure off of Lawrence. Also this show doesn’t pay them that much. Even if she was returning.
I highly doubt it
Raising 2 young kids is just as exhausting as 2 jobs… I swear! 🥹 I think they both work equally hard and should’ve handled Christmas together as a team.
No offense my mom was a single mom of two If my mom was able to go to school and go to work full time with no help Lily can too ! She doesn’t work or drive and I was taught regardless on your gender if you’re gonna stay home you have to cook and clean
Yes, single parents have no choice but to do everything themselves. I agree
Exactly. I also think he just doesn’t do well or like the cameras. I’m sure he’s doing it for the little bit of help financially so he can make Lily happy and have the wedding she insists on and all of the other expenses. I was irritated with her myself about how overboard she was with Xmas and her nonstop demands for the fancy wedding and other spending. I notice how he is with Aaliyah and the subtle silly faces and everything. He’s just not a demonstrative guy.
It’s always Lawrence hate on here. Lol People forget that he’s working and carrying the heavy load of providing for his family and they are young. There is not much structure or discipline and people do get tired. In addition to that, those behind the scenes know that the best way to get people talking is to present negativity and they do that heavily with Lawrence. It’s peculiar to me that people like to act blind to how Lily is but have him under a Microsoft when he is literally doing his best to be a man and navigate giving BOTH of these children what he and Lily lacked: An active and present biological dad. He will find his groove, as will Lily, and it will reflect upon their children. They just have to find balance.
She makes money through social media and brand deals as well. I would argue and say that there is also a lot of Lily hate as well.
Those who complain about, not hate on, Lily are in no way comparable to the vitriol Lawrence receives constantly.
Also I Am gonna bring the race card it’s funny weird how people are on Lawrence’s ass but not Aden
The constant abuse accusations are especially unnecessary and unfair too. There’s been absolutely nothing to show him acting abusively towards anyone and it’s a pretty disgusting thing to label someone without anything behind it. I’m getting out of a abusive long marriage and it makes me sick to see these constant nonsense remarks about the guy.
I am in agreement with you on this as well. I think people take his tone as abuse, but he and Lily communicate exactly the same way. They are both dismissive of one another at times and they both acknowledge it. Neither of them are abusive. Childish at times? Very. Lol But it is apparent that there is no fear, worry, concern or qualms in either of them regarding how they talk to one another and that speaks volumes in and of itself. Lily doesn’t shrink from him, she doesn’t get silent, nothing that would indicate abuse outright or subliminally.
Lily is like him having another child.
He seems really unhappy. It also seems like he isn’t particularly nice to the daughter that’s not his biological child but hopefully that’s just the edit.
Even in photos of them that they have around the house that they showed he’s never looking at Aaliyah, only at LJ. If he hates Aaliyah’s dad so much that he can’t be an adult and tolerate being around him for Aaliyah’s sake, imagine how he feels about Aaliyah. He’s been on for how many seasons now? I have a feeling it’s really not the edit. You can’t edit that much rage and emptiness into a person’s eyes. And how does he look a decade older, at least? He has deep forehead wrinkles at 22?
Ew he’s still doing this? I haven’t seen the show in years and I remember him acting like this
It’s scary how he doesn’t see anything wrong with his behavior; he (still) always blames everyone else. And he’s still got rage issues and is still an immature misogynist who doesn’t value what Lily does all day (but also this sub seems to loathes Lily so….I don’t bc bc if most people here do either). I don’t agree with her lax AF parenting, but I was a teacher for years; I taught mainly grade 4 kids. I had 3 weeks where I subbed for a kindergarten teacher and it felt like 3 months. It was exhaustingggg. And there were only 25 of them; I was used to public school classes of 36-39. If you’re interacting with such young children and cleaning as well and keeping up with them, feeding them, helping them with the toilet and with clean-up, that’s the energy of 3 full time jobs. It’s emotionally, physically, mentally exhausting. Lawrence has NO IDEA what it’s like and he’s made it clear in the past that he thinks this is “women’s work” 🙄
Every time he starts talking about how much he works I’m like  And she’s like “I’m so in love with him” like girl in love with watching him on his phone? Can’t even watch the kids open gifts… complains about literally everything.
He’s insufferable. Like, he works out and he’s draggin’ a wagon and…well he might be xxxx like a horse too, idk bc WHAT could she see in him?!
That reasoning is so ridiculous. I work. I leave work and immediately go home to parent my children. No person should use that excuse, he’s such a clown.
Dude for real. We all work. It’s not a competition.
He is miserable!
He should’ve waited to propose to Lily. I don’t think he fully regrets that decision. BUT if he could go back in time and not get her pregnant and subsequently not propose… he would 100% do that. And who can blame him? I don’t know anyone that would want to be in his situation 🥴
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
I’m conflicted about their dynamic as a couple. Watching the Christmas morning episode was frustrating because it looks as if he didn’t lift a finger the whole time but then I remember that the whole show is cut to spin a narrative that isn’t necessarily what “real life” is.
I was surprised that he didn't even know what she bought for the kids. Even if she ordered everything online, wouldn't she show him? He seems so disconnected. He thinks his only contribution should be that he goes to work.
Meh I don’t think anything of that. My husband stays home and is an awesome dad that’s super involved but holidays are all me. He just doesn’t care about gifts much so it’s not his thing and I love holidays. Maybe that’s not the case for them but it’s not that serious of a thing
This is a huge reason why I don't want kids. So many men just go to work and come home and that's it—mom is the default parent even if she works too. And thanks to birth control I can plan to not be a parent and keep my life exactly how I want it (crazy concept to these girls, lmfao)
My husband often has no idea and he’s an extremely involved parent, and does a ton around the house even though I stay home. Unless it’s something big we discussed it’s usually a surprise for him as well lol. He doesn’t care that much and I spend more time with the kids and know what they have already more than he does so I usually pick.
My husband doesn't really know what our son is getting for Christmas until he opens his presents. As long as I stick to the budget we both agree on he doesn't really care if I show him everything. But he does help me put together the big stuff and put everything out.
Didn’t lift a finger before then either! He just seemed so surprised by what was there. He literally said “This is a lot of stuff…” It did look like a lot, and you knew none of this? 🤔
He was lifting plenty of fingers and other shit when he worked his ass off to make the money that pays for all that plastic useless crap. Christmas isn’t about material bullshit. Buy your kids a couple meaningful presents and a stuffed stocking, that’s all they need. Even if they had the money(which they probably don’t), this is tacky superficial nonsense.
This is how some relationships are when it comes to holidays, shopping, gift giving, one partner takes on a majority of the load either by desire or necessity. Lilly said she enjoys spoiling the kids - Lawrence did seem surprised but not really upset per se, so it might just make sense that she did the bulk of the shopping because she likes to.
Oh there’s definitely a lot of editing, and they can spin it how they want but lily herself has said that he comes home, sits on his phone, and doesn’t help much. Those were her words and it wasn’t just about Christmas, you can tell from how she worded it that this is common behavior for him. Now “why” he’s like that is up for speculation, but when she’s said herself that’s what he’s like everyday I think we can assume she’s probably being honest
Oh fs fs, and I’m not a Lawrence fan by any stretch but I’m rooting for them as a family if that makes sense?? They’re young and they’re learning. And working is hard and tiring and so is being a SAHP, and I don’t have the answer except for that it gets a LITTLE better when kids get older. With this episode I was annoyed that he didn’t seem to be helping but then I was annoyed that she agreed to host brunch, like don’t add that stress on yourself! And with the whole wedding announcement- like girl get married through the courts have a small party/reception and use the rest of that money to pay for a part time nanny/house cleaner so you can get your drivers license and be a little more independent. Okay I waaaaay got off topic haha but I’m invested I guess :)
Oh I completely agree with ALL of that! Idt either one (fully) realized what they were signing up for. Being the only financial provider is stressful (granted they didn’t have to buy the house probably just take over the mortgage) and being the default parent is too. Idt they fully realize how hard it is on the other. I wasn’t a teen parent and I still had to sit down with my spouse and have that talk bc we were both exhausted and stressed. We had to learn how to take things off the others plate. I’m totally rooting for them! I really do hope they figure it out
Right?! Not a teen parent either, married at 25 first kid at 26 - and it was still hard! You make such a great point about taking things off each other’s plates, those are difficult conversations to have. I hope Lawrence is actually more hands on when the crew isn’t present and that she was maybe generalizing but if he really isn’t helping her, I hope they’re able to communicate specific needs/wants.
I cannot stand him and his pissy attitude.
Just stop. While he isn't the most helpful around the house, he is not lazy. He works outside the home and seems to have been raised to think that's enough. Not at all defending Lawrence, but if anyone is lazy it's the girl he's with.
Do you are saying Lilly is lazy?? Her man would of been working full time if he was with her or not.
Not defending him either but it's interesting no one talks about how Lily has to be driven anywhere she goes and hasn't worked at all, ever.
Lily is very spoiled and people talk about how she has made something of herself (i.e., in comparison to other cast members - like jenna). Like girl, I could make something of myself too if my family did everything for me.
(What as she made of herself?)
a SAHM is a job. she does work, but she doesn’t bring home a paycheck
Unexpected does not pay these girls the luxury to be a SAHM. Now I am very happy she has the boutique now but if it wasn’t for Kim and Glenn and Sandy. Lilly and Lawrence would’ve been lost. Lilly was still living in that fantasy land, where she wanted everything but didn’t want to work for it. That’s how she came off. Now I definitely see a difference in her on social media when she does the store promo!
No one said it wasn't a job. Lily, however, barely does that. Her mom has to pick up her kid from school. Her mom has to take her kid to the doctor. Her kids lack discipline. When is she working as a SAHM, without mommy's help?
Not talking about that. She was pregnant as a teen, didn't work. Broke up with that guy, didn't work and now got with another guy, still didn't work.
I mean the show pays her. For years.
& the entire time she stayed home with her children, right? so she was a SAHM. the alternative is work full time and out ur entire paycheck into day care which seems pointless if you can live at home
Her entire paycheck? You mean the one from the show and what her mom provides for her? Oh no...would hate to see her apply herself and at least attend a trade school. Have a good day and stop trying to make it sound like this subreddit doesn't support SAHM's because we do.
yeah, the less than minimum wage tv pays wouldn’t pay for daycare. i also doubt she would want to put that on her mom/ her mom would want to be the primary caregiver for over 8 hours a day should every SAHM go to trade school? that’s the only way a mother can prove they apple themselves if they stay home?
Lily was paid 1k PER episode and is now paid 2500 PER episode. None of this includes her social media media she receives with her product reviews and sales of pics and stories to magazine editors. should every sahm go to trade school? Not necessarily but when you are a teen having a baby you absolutely should to benefit your future because you are you g and not established in life. You okay fam? I'm done replying to your nonsense. Are you taking this personally? Have a good one, fam!
some seasons have 14 episodes… 35,000 would not cover day care. & i got it.. not every SAHM needs to go to trade school, only the ones who had their baby as a teen. makes sense! i think it’s funny that u assume i had something personal happen to actually care ab SAHM when i’m child free.. u can care ab things that don’t impact u 🫶🏼🫶🏼
You realize college isnt 40+ hours a week right? Most community colleges have classes that are for working people and SAHMs. With 2 kids she would get a decent amount of financial aid.
Thank you