My great grandfather flew in a bomber group during ww2 and a guy in his group fell out of a b17 25000 feet up without a parachute (it had been destroyed) and the lucky son of a bitch survived the fall with relatively few injuries. Years later my dad met him as an old man. He said he prayed the entire fall and he landed on a glass ceiling in a train station.
[Wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Magee)
[from the 303rds website](http://www.303rdbg.com/magee.html)
lucky as hell. i know of another story of a woman whose plane exploded due to a bomb, so many different factors went into her survival. she actually holds the record for highest fall without a parachute because of it.
[Vesna Vulović](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovic)
I’ve heard of that one, she crawled through the jungle with a broken leg. I believe there have been at least a few accounts of soviets landing in snow on a hill and surviving in WW2 as well
I heard an old joke saying that the Soviet troops don't need to waste money on parachutes like everyone else. They just fly low and aim for the snow piles. Then the Germans started painting rocks white.
You are thinking of [Juliane Koepcke](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke)
She serviced a plan crash over the Amazon and walked alone for day to find help.
The one above was rescued at the crash site.
Both are crazy stories.
that was [Luke Aikens](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Aikins). he jumped from about 25,000 feet with no parachute or wingsuit. he did that jump last year
WHAT in the crikey fcuk mate!??
WHY what without a parachute wtf a NET
How big is the net and how big is the margin for error??
Guy literally acting out many peoples Lucid Dreams irl is what that sounds like.
Actual Stuff of Nightmares and Anxiety and Dread.
And the gent on the video here. I really hope he had a tiny panic and then leaned into it ultimately because not a single thing could be done. He had to have enough experience know right? To know to lean in because it's the ultimate dive of his life?
His spouse must have a huge insurance policy on him.
I tell my hubs 22 years now, once your life insurance is where I want it to be you can go fall off all the planes and elastic bands and weird heights stuff all you want.
ONCE it hits my mark which has increased because vocabulary of bullship money amounts increased and exploded across the world in the sochmeads so I too like to remain currently ridiculous in my Minimum.
Because he does the all the man work around home and my life LOL and I need him to be here for that...
Crikey this has me feeling queasy and dizzy I just can't even think of picturing falling in my head it will make me feel dizzy.
This one brings Cassidy from PREACHER and that opening scene for the series...
My crikey horrifying it's absolutely not for me I have no desire to plummet to earth from a plane. There is no jumping you are sky falling it's a fate I wouldn't tempt but I have learnt not to tempt fates my life is quite eventful and extraordinary as it is...
I’m not religious but I remember asking a man when I was young if I jumped off a building would god save me, his reply was if you ask him to save you he will.
I remember on my 19th birthday I was in a car with one of my best friends, and he lost control off the vehicle on a patch of snow doing a 120km/hr and the car started doing 360’s we rolled on the roof and slid for 60ft before breakthrough a mailbox post turned the car back over and the side of a driveway culvert stopped us from sliding I remember closing my eyes when we were upside down and asking god to save my friend, when I opened my eyes the car was completely mangled & we were both completely unharmed, I literally still can’t believe it and I’m not sure if I even believe my prayer was an acting factor in this but man I’ve been so humbled and appreciative of every day that I’m still standing on two feet!
Thanks for sharing your great grandfathers story this really speak volume’s to me
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On a year old comment… something that was documented, completely possible under the right circumstances. The praying part was completely irrelevant to the story.
Who hurt you, dude?
You capitalized “dumbass” twice in the same sentence and then you pluralized it for some reason. Don’t tell me why. I don’t care.
“And yet nobody asked for yours.”
Don’t talk to me.
"Magee was taken as a prisoner of war and given medical treatment by his captors. He had 28 shrapnel wounds in addition to his injuries from the fall: several broken bones, severe damage to his nose and eye, lung and kidney damage, and a nearly severed right arm."
Still fairly serious injuries, but yeah minor for the event. Fuck me he was lucky. What an absolute legend. Props to your grandfather too
I hate to be that guy but both of the sources you linked say he blacked out in the plane due to low oxygen, and the second link says he doesnt remember anything, so not sure how he was praying on his way down.
You can a really survive a fall, tho not without risking your legs. Watched a video o CE that talked about what to do if your parachute fails. First you stretch out your arms to slow your fall and look for stuff like trees or snow. Then at the last second you put your feet in front to absorb as much of the fall as possible with it. Yes it'll hurt and your legs likely fucked but you have a chance of surviving that
Qualified sky diver here. That’s incorrect.
Here’s the deal.
If you experience a catastrophic failure of your main chute and your reserve you will pretty much hit the ground at terminal velocity and you’ll bounce.
When you hit the ground, the impact breaks every bone in your body, you bounce and then when you hit the ground again all your broken bones will puncture your organs and rupture your blood vessels.
So.. what you need to do is grab the grass as hard as you can when you hit the ground so that you won’t bounce. After that, you simply dust yourself off and make your way towards the bright light.
Grab the grass? That would be pointless. (1) You’d have 0.01 seconds time to grab it, and no human has that reaction time. (2) Even if you did, the force of impact or bounce at 150 mph would just rip the grass out of the ground.
In all seriousness. I think the best thing to do is pray to God and relax your body and accept the fact you may, or may not die. I wouldn't wanna be panicking on my final seconds. 10, 15,000 ft is a long way..
Chances of hallucinating auditory or visual are HIGH as giraffe peaches and MOAR
Probably be nice to share the moments with someone right? I mean insane experience....
I updooted all of them even dude 'adventurous door' updoots for participating lol because LOL thank you
And now I'll head to bed where I can relive this entire thread in lucid dreams JUST LIKE IT filled with dread...
These dreams have standard widespread symbology for dream interpretation globally its pretty much transferrable across all Ways, Beliefs systems.
Teeth = money
PLUMMET TO EARTH DEATH NO CHUTE = ruminating emos of guilt we do at ourselves for no good reason
and I think that all makes for a loaded sensory dread dream of sweaty palms and a hail Mary after you wake because survived.
You have to grab a big handful of it. It’s like when you try to pull somebody’s hair, it’s easier to pull a single strand out than it is to pull a handful of it out.
Someone replied without reading the whole comment. Do you find yourself thinking of a response while someone else is still finishing their statement? Communication lpt: wait until the other person is done talking before thinking of your response otherwise you might make yourself look stupid
They're definitely one of those people who always interrupting right before the person speaking is finished.
Why? They're only thinking about what they're going to say.
I guess that's where the term "bite the dust" or in german "ins Gras beißen" has it's roots, if you do it correct, it can safe you in that specific situation. But when doing it wrong you will die pretty certainly. Over years the term became a synonym for dying right away, because it was usually done wrong.
Not if your legs go shooting through your abdominal and chest cavities….
The Golden Gate Bridge suicides usually look like a torso with the legs crushed up inside it.
Never said. The survival chance would be great but for some that's still better than a guaranteed death. Also i do wanna know how your legs get crushed inside you when jumping into water.... You have any proof for that claim or just whip that out of nowhere?
https://youtu.be/dy5xLVx2NGY again chances are slim and the points in the video sound logical honestly better than just hitting the ground. Your legs aren't 2 solid strands of rebar but are brittle bones with not the strongest connections
Depends on how you land. The world record for the highest drop into water is just about 10 meters lower than the golden gate bridge (but yes to have a higher chance of survival you need to keep a good form on impact to receive the least amount of damage) tho even then there have been normal people that jumped from the golden gate bridge and survived. It's not a lot but there are cases of it having happened.
Water is still a better option than land. Yes water can act like a concrete wall when jumping from great heights, but if you're lucky you may just survive. But solo you know what's more likely to hit you like concrete? The actual ground. So if I'd have to choose between ground and watery then I'd go for the water and pray to the gods
Yeah but what if you survive just to drown? If you aim for water your death could have an entirely new terrifying component to it than if you just cut your losses and aim for land.
I think it depends how you land on it. Imagine jumping from a normal jumping tower in. Water park. It hurts a lot when you bell flop, but if you land with less surface area then it doesn't hurt
I mean true but it’s very easy for your legs to go into your body… car crashes, falling from a great height landing on solid ground. So why would water be different in anyway if it interacts with the body the same as land would from a big impact? There will always be the possibility of other outcomes same as on land but that doesn’t mean one outcome would be impossible. You don’t really need proof of that happening when there are already plenty of examples lol.
Hey I know this is old but pointing your toes downward would break the surface tension of the water and allow you to go into it with much less of an impact than solid ground would. Also you wouldn’t bounce.
Really, I think its a fun way to die. sure knowing you essentially have seconds to live, but why not do something fun before the timer runs out like diving faster or trying to land one specific place.
I think the crushing reality that your life is now over and all your regrets and last wishes flooding into your mind would probably get in the way of logical or fun thoughts
They learn and training. It happens so fast that like me if I fall the tower there's just a oh fuck moment and that's where I'm done. There's no more thoughts after that. But 90% will have a heart attack in that minute before you hit the ground I'll say this guy over with so much extra time there will be more thoughts because they got more time
I feel terrible, obviously wish he was okay and not trying to be negative here, but absentmindendly grabbing your camera bag, not properly checking its a chute, let alone not double checking on the plane..i mean come on. You can't be bliase or half assed when leaping out of a plane, its like diving to huge depths without a proper air mix, completely preventable. He definitely doesnt deserve to have died for a mix up,.this was the third jump hed done and got into the routine like you do at work, but just such a simple thing to check.
The truly horrific one is that skydiving place where the owner cut corners, had "instructors" with zero experience and got 15-17 customers killed because the employees didnt have the training to solve chute problems, thats just straight murder
Someone said that he did the same mistake before the second jump but someone noticed and told him in time. Don't know if its true but there was definitely something wrong going on with him in that day.
Wow no shit? Yeah I didn't know that, if it's true then he should have already been alerted to the possible mixup and been even more conscious of that
But you've got a point, whether lack of sleep or just absentmindedness definitely seems like a big thing to mess up
There was a tandem jump near here, primary chute malfunctioned and was cut away, reserve chute, same thing and got all tangled. The Instructor (obv on top) survived and left hospital in a few days, the client somehow softened the impact but was killed immediately. Insane how anyone survives that.
Do you mean this gentleman? The instructor actually sacrificed himself
[Aaron Toepfer](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10638491/amp/Christopher-Rantall-haunted-heroism-skydiving-instructor-saved-life.html)
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April 6, 1988: LOUISBURG, N.C. (AP) -
A tired parachutist’s fatigue and his preoccupation with videotaping other jumpers could have led him to leap from a plane without a chute, plummeting 10,500 feet to his death, an acquaintance says.
The death of Ivan Lester McGuire was accidental, although ″a man who has jumped 800 times ought to remember his parachute,″ said Franklin County Sheriff’s Capt. Ralph Brown.
There are no indications of foul play or suicide, and blood tests indicating whether drugs or alcohol were present in his system should be available next week, Brown said.
McGuire, 35, was carrying a video camera mounted on his helmet and was filming an instructor and a student at Franklin County Sports Parachute Center. The videotape was mangled in the crash, but salvaged by investigators.
The videotape showed that McGuire jumped from the airplane and the jump was going smoothly until the parachutes worn by the instructor and the student deployed and McGuire hurtled below them.
″It kind of appears he reached for his parachute and didn’t have one,″ Brown said. ″You could only see the instructor and the student falling on the video. But the release for his parachute is on his right hip, and when that right hand goes down, the left hand comes forward and it comes into camera view.
″Then the pictures get to moving real fast because he’s approaching the ground at 150 mph. The only thing the camera shows is the ground coming.″
Ivan Lester McGuire was 35 years old and a veteran of over 800 skydiving jumps when he fell to his death in April 1988. He was hoping to launch a career as a skydiving photographer, and jumped hooked into a special camera to film another team of jumpers. His co-workers, like Ivan, did not notice he had not put on his parachute. ''We are all preoccupied with doing our own job,'' said Paul Fayard, owner of the Franklin County Sport Parachute Center who flew the plane Ivan jumped from. It was likely the excitement of suiting up with the complicated photography gear that distracted Ivan. His last words were, "Oh my god, No!"
McGuire’s body, found in woods about 1 1/2 miles from the airfield.
Mark Luman of Louisburg, the pilot of the plane, could not be found for comment and had no telephone listing, but Brown said the pilot ″wasn’t in any position to see what happened in the back of the plane.″
Nancy Fayard, wife of parachute center owner Paul Fayard, was quoted in the News and Observer of Raleigh as saying, ″No one was aware that he got on the plane without a parachute. Of course no one knew or they would have stopped him."
Although an expert jumper, McGuire could have forgotten to put on his parachute because of fatigue or preoccupation with his video equipment, she said.
Mrs. Fayard said McGuire worked the third shift at Northern Telecom Inc., a manufacturer of telephone switching equipment, and usually left the club at noon to get to work. On Saturday, she said, he stayed until 2:30 p.m. to shoot the video.
″He’s a real perfectionist when it comes to his video photography and he’d been working a lot on it,″ she said. ″The best we can figure is he became so preoccupied with the video, and then being fatigued, that his mind was on the video.″
[source](https://apnews.com/article/ad6734fd502c80db0d71695b53605229)
Yes, so it’s normal to want to see the report in such a unique case where you’d imagine it’s not a normal thing to forget a parachute as a professional skydiver
Can't tell ya what "normal" is.
Those that knew the man have already surmised his oversight was due to his extreme excitement to film the upcoming dive.
No one else noticed he hadn't strapped on a parachute, hence, they all must have been excited and preoccupied.
This was 35 years ago.
I can't imagine why anyone not related to him (or his insurance underwriter) would be so invested in the results of his tox screen.
Apply for a copy of the document and put your curiosity to rest 🤷🏻♂️
What am I allowed to enjoy or be curious about, internet stranger? I care a lot to impress you. Your opinion of me means more than me having fun conversations with others. Go on. Please. I worship you
Relax bud it was a valid question and they’re allowed to ask it. Have you ever been to a skydiving hanger or hung out with skydivers? Lots of drinking and partying happen after hours all the time. Not everyone does of course but it shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that adrenaline loving skydivers are known to party. Not saying he was drunk or high but certainly wouldn’t surprise me at all.
Have I?
I have 27 dives under my belt 🤦♂️not including the required tandem during training 🤦♂️
Edit: And no one was under the influence of drugs or alcohol , liability is way to risky for a professional outfit
Well damn hot shot 27 jumps & a tandem??
Not everyone follows the rules & keeps it safe bud. More experience at different hangars & you’ll change your opinion on this.
Edit-that emoji thing after the tandem. Thanks for making my day mate.
The article fucking says
> blood tests indicating whether drugs or alcohol were present in his system should be available next week
But according to you, no one is allowed to come in and add the context that these results are not readily available. You sound like a sanctimonious prick who doesn't understand why no one wants their company.
Wanting to see a report and insinuating a seasoned professional who made a fatal error (which happens very frequently) was intoxicated are two different things.
Autopsy reports are public record.
If you're truly curious, you can file a document requesting a copy of the report and submit it to the Chief Medical Examiner's Office.(They may ask you why you want it, so have a suitable response prepared)
"Autopsy, Investigation, and Toxicology Reports: Autopsy, Investigation, and Toxicology Reports are also public records and once finalized, may be obtained from the OCME. To request any of these documents, please visit www.ocme.dhhs.nc.gov and click on the “Document Request” link on the left side."
That poor bastard.
It's like when you are driving somewhere and find you've started going to work unintentionally..... autopilot. But with the worst consequences.
I always wondered why “over familiarity” is a major safety hazard at my work.
I hope this video can serve as a strong lesson to lots of people working in dangerous jobs.
Holy shit. This reminds me of parents of leave the baby in the car. You do it right a thousand times and one day you’re having an off day and just like that it’s over.
Complacency is one of the top reasons people die in the workplace. You do something enough times you tend to get too comfortable and skip some steps that you have to do....
old comment but basically he’s been on multiple jumps that day (filming the same way here) and the thought is he grabbed his film bag and threw it around his shoulders instead of his parachute.
i know to the ordinary person (like me) that sounds impossible but when you routinely jump out of planes multiple times a day, it doesn’t surprise me this kind of thing can happen.
What's weird is I can't find a picture of him anywhere. You'll think him dying from such a stupid accident (he was already warned before on his second jump that he almost forgot to put on his parachute) his picture would be online in some news article.
I know about 50 feet from the ground Is when it got real scary… bracing for impact bout to hit the ground wondering if it’ll be painful or over so quick you’ll never know what happened. Rest in peace
super old comment but really? Ive always read that the jumpers of 9/11 probably (hopefully) passed out or had a heart attack mid air and that’s certainly a lot less of a fall than skydiving.
Yeah, part of that is some mythical, wishful-thinking.
The fall lasted about 10 seconds for most jumpers. Heart attacks last for minutes to sometimes hours, aren't immediately fatal for most people who experience them and unconsciousness, should it occur, can take 20 seconds or more.
What _is_ true is that they could faint while falling, though 10 seconds is a tight window to pull that off and isn't common in healthy individuals. What's also true is that dying from a fall at close to terminal velocity would be painless.
When I was a wee-kid in high school, I was told by my science teacher that you can actually perform a aerobraking maneuver by diving from about 10,000 feet to build up speed, then lifting your hands up to perform said maneuver to allow air friction to stall yourself. He claimed that skydivers can perform the maneuver multiple times on the way down just to see if it works but not actually land with the maneuver.
It works with perfect calculus, keyword perfect. If you had a wing suit on, it's much easier to come to a stall. Example, that Red Bull stunt man who landed with a wingsuit, no parachute, but into boxes. In his stun he too performed a aerobraking maneuver, stalling himself before landing into boxes. Not the same maneuver I was talking about but the point is you are using air resistance to boost your chances of survival.
The maneuver works, but it will only slow you down modestly, not actually stop your downward momentum. Even with a wingsuit, it's not enough to safely land unless you have something set up on the ground to land on that will cushion your fall.
This is why you are not allowed onto a skydive plane without your parachute already on. That and so if there is a emergency on the ascent the pilots will tell everyone to bail past around 3 thousand feet I believe.
What did you expect from a 10,500 feet fall? That the camera would be in excellent condition while it hit the ground at those speeds? You would be lucky to have any footage after that dickwad.
No relation to this but my high-school social studies teacher told us the story of his captains monkey. He loved this monkey and one day decided to drop him from a plane. The captain was on the ground and watched as his monkey was released from the plane, his parachute opening perfectly. The monkey just swaying as he went down. It was so cure he said. Suddenly the monkey began to freak out. He started climbing the ropes and became tangled, making the parachute collapse and turn into a ball. Poor monkey.
what a scary way to die. just knowing while you’re falling that there’s essentially zero chance you’ll live…terrifying.
My great grandfather flew in a bomber group during ww2 and a guy in his group fell out of a b17 25000 feet up without a parachute (it had been destroyed) and the lucky son of a bitch survived the fall with relatively few injuries. Years later my dad met him as an old man. He said he prayed the entire fall and he landed on a glass ceiling in a train station. [Wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Magee) [from the 303rds website](http://www.303rdbg.com/magee.html)
lucky as hell. i know of another story of a woman whose plane exploded due to a bomb, so many different factors went into her survival. she actually holds the record for highest fall without a parachute because of it. [Vesna Vulović](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovic)
I’ve heard of that one, she crawled through the jungle with a broken leg. I believe there have been at least a few accounts of soviets landing in snow on a hill and surviving in WW2 as well
I heard an old joke saying that the Soviet troops don't need to waste money on parachutes like everyone else. They just fly low and aim for the snow piles. Then the Germans started painting rocks white.
You are thinking of [Juliane Koepcke](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke) She serviced a plan crash over the Amazon and walked alone for day to find help. The one above was rescued at the crash site. Both are crazy stories.
Didnt some guy jump from basically outer space and land in a net on the ground without a parachute recently?
that was [Luke Aikens](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Aikins). he jumped from about 25,000 feet with no parachute or wingsuit. he did that jump last year
Yeah, that video was insane lol
100 kilometers above sea level is the recognized boarder of space 25k ft is a far cry to even be considered space
On porpose?
On a shark !
this guy acting out Actual Really Dreamt Dread filled LUCID DREAMS of many of us here. WHY!??? Lol I don't get it and how do you top that?
Oh my gosh I just realized these are old comments lolif any of you are around I could use a hug lol This has affected me...
Yup? Crazy motherf***er!!
25000 feet is less than the height of Everest. Not outer space.
WHAT in the crikey fcuk mate!?? WHY what without a parachute wtf a NET How big is the net and how big is the margin for error?? Guy literally acting out many peoples Lucid Dreams irl is what that sounds like. Actual Stuff of Nightmares and Anxiety and Dread. And the gent on the video here. I really hope he had a tiny panic and then leaned into it ultimately because not a single thing could be done. He had to have enough experience know right? To know to lean in because it's the ultimate dive of his life? His spouse must have a huge insurance policy on him. I tell my hubs 22 years now, once your life insurance is where I want it to be you can go fall off all the planes and elastic bands and weird heights stuff all you want. ONCE it hits my mark which has increased because vocabulary of bullship money amounts increased and exploded across the world in the sochmeads so I too like to remain currently ridiculous in my Minimum. Because he does the all the man work around home and my life LOL and I need him to be here for that... Crikey this has me feeling queasy and dizzy I just can't even think of picturing falling in my head it will make me feel dizzy.
It was struck by lightning 🤦♂️
This one brings Cassidy from PREACHER and that opening scene for the series... My crikey horrifying it's absolutely not for me I have no desire to plummet to earth from a plane. There is no jumping you are sky falling it's a fate I wouldn't tempt but I have learnt not to tempt fates my life is quite eventful and extraordinary as it is...
apparently your heart could explode on impact so it helps to have low blood pressure lol
There was also this guy: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas\_Alkemade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Alkemade)
I’m not religious but I remember asking a man when I was young if I jumped off a building would god save me, his reply was if you ask him to save you he will. I remember on my 19th birthday I was in a car with one of my best friends, and he lost control off the vehicle on a patch of snow doing a 120km/hr and the car started doing 360’s we rolled on the roof and slid for 60ft before breakthrough a mailbox post turned the car back over and the side of a driveway culvert stopped us from sliding I remember closing my eyes when we were upside down and asking god to save my friend, when I opened my eyes the car was completely mangled & we were both completely unharmed, I literally still can’t believe it and I’m not sure if I even believe my prayer was an acting factor in this but man I’ve been so humbled and appreciative of every day that I’m still standing on two feet! Thanks for sharing your great grandfathers story this really speak volume’s to me
Unreal but similar prayer experience without death.
Bro ahaha your grandfather did not know him stfu. So obviously made that up.
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Holy shit, you're actually pathetic. Never type again 😭
I wasn't talking to you.
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You either.
Is this a 'NO U' moment?
Who the hell are you? Mind your business.
NO U
Shut up
On a year old comment… something that was documented, completely possible under the right circumstances. The praying part was completely irrelevant to the story. Who hurt you, dude?
Excuse me, I’m not looking for your opinion. Mind your own business next time.
And yet nobody asked for yours… A Dumbass comeback written by Dumbasses.
You capitalized “dumbass” twice in the same sentence and then you pluralized it for some reason. Don’t tell me why. I don’t care. “And yet nobody asked for yours.” Don’t talk to me.
See here’s the thing, when you say "Don’t talk to me", I don’t care either. Because you’re worth laughing at.
Aww, thank you. What a nice compliment. Wait, you aren’t flirting with me, are you?
Were you bullied at school? Are you being bullied at at school? If so, then just know that this is a terrible comeback
Be civil in comments.
There's a reason why they're called the greatest generation.
Yeah...they have a severely inflated ego. Ironic how the "greatest" generation ever produced the WORST generation ever.
Bro go find a purpose lol
"Magee was taken as a prisoner of war and given medical treatment by his captors. He had 28 shrapnel wounds in addition to his injuries from the fall: several broken bones, severe damage to his nose and eye, lung and kidney damage, and a nearly severed right arm." Still fairly serious injuries, but yeah minor for the event. Fuck me he was lucky. What an absolute legend. Props to your grandfather too
Wow when was this an why?
Holy shit you knew that guy? i read about him in ripleys
I hate to be that guy but both of the sources you linked say he blacked out in the plane due to low oxygen, and the second link says he doesnt remember anything, so not sure how he was praying on his way down.
You can a really survive a fall, tho not without risking your legs. Watched a video o CE that talked about what to do if your parachute fails. First you stretch out your arms to slow your fall and look for stuff like trees or snow. Then at the last second you put your feet in front to absorb as much of the fall as possible with it. Yes it'll hurt and your legs likely fucked but you have a chance of surviving that
Qualified sky diver here. That’s incorrect. Here’s the deal. If you experience a catastrophic failure of your main chute and your reserve you will pretty much hit the ground at terminal velocity and you’ll bounce. When you hit the ground, the impact breaks every bone in your body, you bounce and then when you hit the ground again all your broken bones will puncture your organs and rupture your blood vessels. So.. what you need to do is grab the grass as hard as you can when you hit the ground so that you won’t bounce. After that, you simply dust yourself off and make your way towards the bright light.
Grab the grass? That would be pointless. (1) You’d have 0.01 seconds time to grab it, and no human has that reaction time. (2) Even if you did, the force of impact or bounce at 150 mph would just rip the grass out of the ground.
Dude
I'm fucking crying right now at the past 3 comments holy shit.
In all seriousness. I think the best thing to do is pray to God and relax your body and accept the fact you may, or may not die. I wouldn't wanna be panicking on my final seconds. 10, 15,000 ft is a long way..
> the best thing to do is pray to God Yeah...because magic is always the answer.
/r/averageredditor
Chances of hallucinating auditory or visual are HIGH as giraffe peaches and MOAR Probably be nice to share the moments with someone right? I mean insane experience....
I updooted all of them even dude for participating lol
I updooted all of them even dude 'adventurous door' updoots for participating lol because LOL thank you And now I'll head to bed where I can relive this entire thread in lucid dreams JUST LIKE IT filled with dread... These dreams have standard widespread symbology for dream interpretation globally its pretty much transferrable across all Ways, Beliefs systems. Teeth = money PLUMMET TO EARTH DEATH NO CHUTE = ruminating emos of guilt we do at ourselves for no good reason and I think that all makes for a loaded sensory dread dream of sweaty palms and a hail Mary after you wake because survived.
You have to grab a big handful of it. It’s like when you try to pull somebody’s hair, it’s easier to pull a single strand out than it is to pull a handful of it out.
Someone replied without reading the whole comment. Do you find yourself thinking of a response while someone else is still finishing their statement? Communication lpt: wait until the other person is done talking before thinking of your response otherwise you might make yourself look stupid
They're definitely one of those people who always interrupting right before the person speaking is finished. Why? They're only thinking about what they're going to say.
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Oh okay. So, you are saying that you cannot actually grab some grass after breaking your bones smacking the ground at 100+ MPH?
Found the Reddit final boss
Wrong. Just try it, you'll see it works well for everyone.
WHAT IF THERE IS NO GRASS??? What then, Qualified sky diver? Just grab a rock?
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I guess that's where the term "bite the dust" or in german "ins Gras beißen" has it's roots, if you do it correct, it can safe you in that specific situation. But when doing it wrong you will die pretty certainly. Over years the term became a synonym for dying right away, because it was usually done wrong.
Wait, you are playing along with the joke here right? Right?
joke? which joke?
Grabbing the grass would never work… in any instance. His last sentence is even about going towards the light, because you would be dead
Not if your legs go shooting through your abdominal and chest cavities…. The Golden Gate Bridge suicides usually look like a torso with the legs crushed up inside it.
Never said. The survival chance would be great but for some that's still better than a guaranteed death. Also i do wanna know how your legs get crushed inside you when jumping into water.... You have any proof for that claim or just whip that out of nowhere?
>You have any proof for that claim or just whip that out of nowhere? says the guy talking about some random youtube video as if that proves anything
https://youtu.be/dy5xLVx2NGY again chances are slim and the points in the video sound logical honestly better than just hitting the ground. Your legs aren't 2 solid strands of rebar but are brittle bones with not the strongest connections
I've seen the video. Sure it's logical but that doesn't prove anything, he could easily be wrong.
Impact with water at great height is same as impact with land. That’s why people die when jumping from San Francisco’s bridges
Depends on how you land. The world record for the highest drop into water is just about 10 meters lower than the golden gate bridge (but yes to have a higher chance of survival you need to keep a good form on impact to receive the least amount of damage) tho even then there have been normal people that jumped from the golden gate bridge and survived. It's not a lot but there are cases of it having happened. Water is still a better option than land. Yes water can act like a concrete wall when jumping from great heights, but if you're lucky you may just survive. But solo you know what's more likely to hit you like concrete? The actual ground. So if I'd have to choose between ground and watery then I'd go for the water and pray to the gods
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I'm picturing skydiving over Alabama, my parachute failing, and desperately trying to glide up to Alberta.
Yeah but what if you survive just to drown? If you aim for water your death could have an entirely new terrifying component to it than if you just cut your losses and aim for land.
I'd prefer to have a chance than just take it. Fuck low chance if there ever was a time to gamble it would be right before you die
Fair but having seen a few drownings myself I’d rather not risk it.
Damn you're quick to give up on life
Hitting water from a high height is like hitting concrete I thought? So wouldn’t it be very easy for your legs to still do that or no?
I think it depends how you land on it. Imagine jumping from a normal jumping tower in. Water park. It hurts a lot when you bell flop, but if you land with less surface area then it doesn't hurt
I mean true but it’s very easy for your legs to go into your body… car crashes, falling from a great height landing on solid ground. So why would water be different in anyway if it interacts with the body the same as land would from a big impact? There will always be the possibility of other outcomes same as on land but that doesn’t mean one outcome would be impossible. You don’t really need proof of that happening when there are already plenty of examples lol.
Hey I know this is old but pointing your toes downward would break the surface tension of the water and allow you to go into it with much less of an impact than solid ground would. Also you wouldn’t bounce.
Most divers flatten their feet just before they hit the water to break the water better, and not break their toes
Really? That water 💧 will feel like a WALL when you hit it.
You know what feels even more like a wall when you hit it? The ground
> The Golden Gate Bridge suicides usually look like a torso with the legs crushed up inside it. link?
Really, I think its a fun way to die. sure knowing you essentially have seconds to live, but why not do something fun before the timer runs out like diving faster or trying to land one specific place.
I think the crushing reality that your life is now over and all your regrets and last wishes flooding into your mind would probably get in the way of logical or fun thoughts
They learn and training. It happens so fast that like me if I fall the tower there's just a oh fuck moment and that's where I'm done. There's no more thoughts after that. But 90% will have a heart attack in that minute before you hit the ground I'll say this guy over with so much extra time there will be more thoughts because they got more time
That’s a myth. Video of jumpers show they are fully conscious when they are falling & impact
Heart attacks take a long time to kill you.
Wrong. A lady that jumped off a bridge without a bungee cord attached had a heart attack and died before she hit the ground. Corner confirmed it
Did she hit the corner of the bridge?
i would laugh too at such moment
I feel terrible, obviously wish he was okay and not trying to be negative here, but absentmindendly grabbing your camera bag, not properly checking its a chute, let alone not double checking on the plane..i mean come on. You can't be bliase or half assed when leaping out of a plane, its like diving to huge depths without a proper air mix, completely preventable. He definitely doesnt deserve to have died for a mix up,.this was the third jump hed done and got into the routine like you do at work, but just such a simple thing to check. The truly horrific one is that skydiving place where the owner cut corners, had "instructors" with zero experience and got 15-17 customers killed because the employees didnt have the training to solve chute problems, thats just straight murder
Someone said that he did the same mistake before the second jump but someone noticed and told him in time. Don't know if its true but there was definitely something wrong going on with him in that day.
Wow no shit? Yeah I didn't know that, if it's true then he should have already been alerted to the possible mixup and been even more conscious of that But you've got a point, whether lack of sleep or just absentmindedness definitely seems like a big thing to mess up
There was a tandem jump near here, primary chute malfunctioned and was cut away, reserve chute, same thing and got all tangled. The Instructor (obv on top) survived and left hospital in a few days, the client somehow softened the impact but was killed immediately. Insane how anyone survives that.
I guess the client’s body was the instructor’s plan C in case both main chute and reserve chute failed. Respect.
Do you mean this gentleman? The instructor actually sacrificed himself [Aaron Toepfer](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10638491/amp/Christopher-Rantall-haunted-heroism-skydiving-instructor-saved-life.html)
No, that's another lucky fella.
Holy hell! How many people are out here running Plan C?
uhm no
The realization...horrifying.
**Video has no sound** April 6, 1988: LOUISBURG, N.C. (AP) - A tired parachutist’s fatigue and his preoccupation with videotaping other jumpers could have led him to leap from a plane without a chute, plummeting 10,500 feet to his death, an acquaintance says. The death of Ivan Lester McGuire was accidental, although ″a man who has jumped 800 times ought to remember his parachute,″ said Franklin County Sheriff’s Capt. Ralph Brown. There are no indications of foul play or suicide, and blood tests indicating whether drugs or alcohol were present in his system should be available next week, Brown said. McGuire, 35, was carrying a video camera mounted on his helmet and was filming an instructor and a student at Franklin County Sports Parachute Center. The videotape was mangled in the crash, but salvaged by investigators. The videotape showed that McGuire jumped from the airplane and the jump was going smoothly until the parachutes worn by the instructor and the student deployed and McGuire hurtled below them. ″It kind of appears he reached for his parachute and didn’t have one,″ Brown said. ″You could only see the instructor and the student falling on the video. But the release for his parachute is on his right hip, and when that right hand goes down, the left hand comes forward and it comes into camera view. ″Then the pictures get to moving real fast because he’s approaching the ground at 150 mph. The only thing the camera shows is the ground coming.″ Ivan Lester McGuire was 35 years old and a veteran of over 800 skydiving jumps when he fell to his death in April 1988. He was hoping to launch a career as a skydiving photographer, and jumped hooked into a special camera to film another team of jumpers. His co-workers, like Ivan, did not notice he had not put on his parachute. ''We are all preoccupied with doing our own job,'' said Paul Fayard, owner of the Franklin County Sport Parachute Center who flew the plane Ivan jumped from. It was likely the excitement of suiting up with the complicated photography gear that distracted Ivan. His last words were, "Oh my god, No!" McGuire’s body, found in woods about 1 1/2 miles from the airfield. Mark Luman of Louisburg, the pilot of the plane, could not be found for comment and had no telephone listing, but Brown said the pilot ″wasn’t in any position to see what happened in the back of the plane.″ Nancy Fayard, wife of parachute center owner Paul Fayard, was quoted in the News and Observer of Raleigh as saying, ″No one was aware that he got on the plane without a parachute. Of course no one knew or they would have stopped him." Although an expert jumper, McGuire could have forgotten to put on his parachute because of fatigue or preoccupation with his video equipment, she said. Mrs. Fayard said McGuire worked the third shift at Northern Telecom Inc., a manufacturer of telephone switching equipment, and usually left the club at noon to get to work. On Saturday, she said, he stayed until 2:30 p.m. to shoot the video. ″He’s a real perfectionist when it comes to his video photography and he’d been working a lot on it,″ she said. ″The best we can figure is he became so preoccupied with the video, and then being fatigued, that his mind was on the video.″ [source](https://apnews.com/article/ad6734fd502c80db0d71695b53605229)
There’s no update from the 80s on this article on te toxicology report. We’ll never know if he was drunk or on drugs
Inappropriate to insinuate anything but sober and preoccupied with his filming gig
It’s literallly in the article??? Why is that inappropriate to mention? You’re just being a dick dude
Most every unexpected death includes a tox screen, which does NOT imply intox or drug use prior to death. Your comment, on the other hand..... 🙄
Yes, so it’s normal to want to see the report in such a unique case where you’d imagine it’s not a normal thing to forget a parachute as a professional skydiver
Can't tell ya what "normal" is. Those that knew the man have already surmised his oversight was due to his extreme excitement to film the upcoming dive. No one else noticed he hadn't strapped on a parachute, hence, they all must have been excited and preoccupied. This was 35 years ago. I can't imagine why anyone not related to him (or his insurance underwriter) would be so invested in the results of his tox screen. Apply for a copy of the document and put your curiosity to rest 🤷🏻♂️
What am I allowed to enjoy or be curious about, internet stranger? I care a lot to impress you. Your opinion of me means more than me having fun conversations with others. Go on. Please. I worship you
Relax bud it was a valid question and they’re allowed to ask it. Have you ever been to a skydiving hanger or hung out with skydivers? Lots of drinking and partying happen after hours all the time. Not everyone does of course but it shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that adrenaline loving skydivers are known to party. Not saying he was drunk or high but certainly wouldn’t surprise me at all.
Have I? I have 27 dives under my belt 🤦♂️not including the required tandem during training 🤦♂️ Edit: And no one was under the influence of drugs or alcohol , liability is way to risky for a professional outfit
Well damn hot shot 27 jumps & a tandem?? Not everyone follows the rules & keeps it safe bud. More experience at different hangars & you’ll change your opinion on this. Edit-that emoji thing after the tandem. Thanks for making my day mate.
This was In the 80s bro, everyone had a martini and blow. EVERYONE!!!
The article fucking says > blood tests indicating whether drugs or alcohol were present in his system should be available next week But according to you, no one is allowed to come in and add the context that these results are not readily available. You sound like a sanctimonious prick who doesn't understand why no one wants their company.
Wanting to see a report and insinuating a seasoned professional who made a fatal error (which happens very frequently) was intoxicated are two different things. Autopsy reports are public record. If you're truly curious, you can file a document requesting a copy of the report and submit it to the Chief Medical Examiner's Office.(They may ask you why you want it, so have a suitable response prepared) "Autopsy, Investigation, and Toxicology Reports: Autopsy, Investigation, and Toxicology Reports are also public records and once finalized, may be obtained from the OCME. To request any of these documents, please visit www.ocme.dhhs.nc.gov and click on the “Document Request” link on the left side."
No one insinuated anything, it’s completely reasonable to consider as a possibility when someone jumps out of a plane without a parachute
"3rd shift" He was sleep deprived. As someone who works in IT.. it's scary what you forget to do after not sleeping.
That poor bastard. It's like when you are driving somewhere and find you've started going to work unintentionally..... autopilot. But with the worst consequences.
I do this. My wife hates it
I always wondered why “over familiarity” is a major safety hazard at my work. I hope this video can serve as a strong lesson to lots of people working in dangerous jobs.
Not even just in the dangerous. In general; overconfidence makes mistakes.
I cut a tip of my thumb bc of overconfidence (and bc of being in hurry). Could be worse.
Holy shit. This reminds me of parents of leave the baby in the car. You do it right a thousand times and one day you’re having an off day and just like that it’s over.
Wow! I’d never seen this! My lord I’ll bet he was hoping for some sort of miracle the entire way down..
A real life nightmare
That poor man. Good positive things rest his soul
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IIRC, he actually "won" one.
Cutting off before he hit the ground makes the video 10x scarier
imagine being so used to jumping out of planes you don't even think about your safety until you are out of the plane lol
Complacency is one of the top reasons people die in the workplace. You do something enough times you tend to get too comfortable and skip some steps that you have to do....
old comment but basically he’s been on multiple jumps that day (filming the same way here) and the thought is he grabbed his film bag and threw it around his shoulders instead of his parachute. i know to the ordinary person (like me) that sounds impossible but when you routinely jump out of planes multiple times a day, it doesn’t surprise me this kind of thing can happen.
he had a heavy backpack on so he havent realised that he forgot the parachute
What's weird is I can't find a picture of him anywhere. You'll think him dying from such a stupid accident (he was already warned before on his second jump that he almost forgot to put on his parachute) his picture would be online in some news article.
Wheres the rest of it?
What a fucking idiot
does it recorded sound??
In the old uncut footage there was sound but I guess the investigators got rid of it and this was the only footage they could find of him that day
I know about 50 feet from the ground Is when it got real scary… bracing for impact bout to hit the ground wondering if it’ll be painful or over so quick you’ll never know what happened. Rest in peace
I kinda hope his heart stopped before his brain had time to comprehend what was happening 😞
Unless he had a preexisting heart condition, he was almost certainly conscious until impact.
super old comment but really? Ive always read that the jumpers of 9/11 probably (hopefully) passed out or had a heart attack mid air and that’s certainly a lot less of a fall than skydiving.
Yeah, part of that is some mythical, wishful-thinking. The fall lasted about 10 seconds for most jumpers. Heart attacks last for minutes to sometimes hours, aren't immediately fatal for most people who experience them and unconsciousness, should it occur, can take 20 seconds or more. What _is_ true is that they could faint while falling, though 10 seconds is a tight window to pull that off and isn't common in healthy individuals. What's also true is that dying from a fall at close to terminal velocity would be painless.
Good news is we are milliseconds in the past due to the speed of human perception. So he saw grass but didn't feel it
Yeah, would have been lights out before registering any pain.
When I was a wee-kid in high school, I was told by my science teacher that you can actually perform a aerobraking maneuver by diving from about 10,000 feet to build up speed, then lifting your hands up to perform said maneuver to allow air friction to stall yourself. He claimed that skydivers can perform the maneuver multiple times on the way down just to see if it works but not actually land with the maneuver.
I don’t think that works well
It works with perfect calculus, keyword perfect. If you had a wing suit on, it's much easier to come to a stall. Example, that Red Bull stunt man who landed with a wingsuit, no parachute, but into boxes. In his stun he too performed a aerobraking maneuver, stalling himself before landing into boxes. Not the same maneuver I was talking about but the point is you are using air resistance to boost your chances of survival.
The maneuver works, but it will only slow you down modestly, not actually stop your downward momentum. Even with a wingsuit, it's not enough to safely land unless you have something set up on the ground to land on that will cushion your fall.
Is he really a parachutist if he jumps without a parachute?
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Wtf man lmao
Peggy Hill
Her parachute just broke I think
Live Leak….now there’s a logo I haven’t seen in a long time
rip
how to turn yourself into a red splat with one easy trick.
People accidentally leave their kids in hot cars I guess this isn't out if the realm of possibility.
This is why you are not allowed onto a skydive plane without your parachute already on. That and so if there is a emergency on the ascent the pilots will tell everyone to bail past around 3 thousand feet I believe.
*“Cause I’m free! FREE FALLING!”*
Where is the whole video
Where is the rest of it?
As far as I know, that was it. Supposedly found in bad condition.
Where is the audio?
It was probably cut off because of the severity of the situation
Hemorrhoids are squishy
so sad
Got lazy and I think most would agree why.
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What did you expect from a 10,500 feet fall? That the camera would be in excellent condition while it hit the ground at those speeds? You would be lucky to have any footage after that dickwad.
No relation to this but my high-school social studies teacher told us the story of his captains monkey. He loved this monkey and one day decided to drop him from a plane. The captain was on the ground and watched as his monkey was released from the plane, his parachute opening perfectly. The monkey just swaying as he went down. It was so cure he said. Suddenly the monkey began to freak out. He started climbing the ropes and became tangled, making the parachute collapse and turn into a ball. Poor monkey.
Yeah, but where's the *full* video?
Aim for the bushes 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Whenever I say that, no one ever knows what I'm talking about! Finally someone knows.
I can only imagine the thoughts that would be on his mind
Fire Ants kept a woman's adrenaline high enough she survived a fall from an aircraft
Why is my sound not working
No audio?
No audio😠😠😠
But usually everyone checks the gear of everyone.