What’s the minimum br for night battles again? I can’t imagine how fun running around in a Wiesel in the pitch black and hiding from enemies could be. I’d love to just appear like a ghost from the dark, take their barrels and tracts and then run off back into the night
Gen 2 thermals I think (idk the specific gen but they are GOOD). No clue if it has the green NVDs when you’re out of the gunner sight though because I don’t think I’ve ever even tried to use them but I assume it does
Edit: wiki says gen 3 thermals
If I remember correctly it's 10.0
So all the cold war tanks with nvg have a literally useless modification.
If you ask me they should just rework night battles, add functional lights to tanks and make it a separate game mode with it's own matchmaking. Without flares.
They already have IR spotlights and IRCM that function as mobile light sources so I see no reason why not. Oh and MAKE IT TOGGLABLE.
Perhaps disable thermals in the mode.
If you had NVG on then that's the IR spotlight, those are functional and work as light, or IRCM which jams missiles and works as a more powerful light, basically a beacon to any air with NVG.
If you can CHOOSE to play night battles, then being able to CHOOSE to play them without having NVD is up to the player. If they don't want to play it without NVD, disable night battles until you research NVD. It's just a fucking outdated mechanic from when night battles weren't optional.
Don't really get to "choose" night battles. You only get to opt in to their queue.
I really want to be able to choose to ONLY enter the night queue, not both night and regular.
I remember playing tiger 1 in the stormy night simulator battle all the way back in CBT. Was really fun and sometimes to see a tank you had to crash into it.
Wish we still had old simulator battles but with the amount of copy pastes it would get really confusing sometimes.
At least you joined night battles...
It's been months since I activated the "join night battles" thing in the game and the only one I saw was me accidentally setting night in a test drive.
I guess its because the game doesnt check if you have anything above 10+ and just allows you to join when you eventually get there. Also doesnt it say its only br 10+ when you go to activate it?
The flares are the whole reason I don't play night battles. Maybe it's changed since I played but I remember not being able to see between flares without NVD and the flares giving me a headache unless I turned NVD off.
It’s great for the players who don’t have NVG’s, but once you do get those you get blinded every minute or so when the flare goes up. So I’d be fine with removing them
I totally agree, even more for top tier, it ruins the whole purpose of gen 3 thermal vision 50% of the battle, also yes it would be pain to grind without it but then u can just not click the night battle option, so yeah, remove it for 10.3 ~ 11.7
im pretty sure the flares are only there to help cas see the ground depending on what weapons they are using or if their aircraft's targeting pod doesnt have nvd/thermals
Personally I'd like it if they were kept in but only fire them off every few minutes and reduce their duration. Right now the map is illuminated 70%+ of the time, when it could be like 5-10% of the time.
I think having the visibility change adds some interesting gameplay dynamics, rather than having everyone drive around with NVG/thermals on the entire match. But having the entire map illuminated most of the match defeats the point of night battles in the first place.
Gaijin: B... but how can you see anything then? Players: Thats the point, you SHOULDN‘T see
What’s the minimum br for night battles again? I can’t imagine how fun running around in a Wiesel in the pitch black and hiding from enemies could be. I’d love to just appear like a ghost from the dark, take their barrels and tracts and then run off back into the night
Doesn‘t the wiesel get NVD?
Gen 2 thermals I think (idk the specific gen but they are GOOD). No clue if it has the green NVDs when you’re out of the gunner sight though because I don’t think I’ve ever even tried to use them but I assume it does Edit: wiki says gen 3 thermals
If it has TVD it has NVD (as much as I know)
You are correct
PBV 501 (6.7) does too
If you wanna be a gremlin, I believe the ASU-57 gets NVD at 4.3
w h a t
If I remember correctly it's 10.0 So all the cold war tanks with nvg have a literally useless modification. If you ask me they should just rework night battles, add functional lights to tanks and make it a separate game mode with it's own matchmaking. Without flares. They already have IR spotlights and IRCM that function as mobile light sources so I see no reason why not. Oh and MAKE IT TOGGLABLE. Perhaps disable thermals in the mode.
I swear I have seen some tanks turn lights on.
If you had NVG on then that's the IR spotlight, those are functional and work as light, or IRCM which jams missiles and works as a more powerful light, basically a beacon to any air with NVG.
I thought it was like 6.7 or whatever BR 90% of tanks start having NVGs
That would make too much sense and we can't have that!
well the M42 gets NVD at 4.0 in RB, so maybe that?
I think the minimum BR was 10.0
The minimum br is 10.0 as far as I know.
If you can CHOOSE to play night battles, then being able to CHOOSE to play them without having NVD is up to the player. If they don't want to play it without NVD, disable night battles until you research NVD. It's just a fucking outdated mechanic from when night battles weren't optional.
Don't really get to "choose" night battles. You only get to opt in to their queue. I really want to be able to choose to ONLY enter the night queue, not both night and regular.
My point is you don’t have to play them if you don’t want to, so if you don’t have NVD, just don’t play them and remove flares.
Forgot the point of the post was the flares lol I agree, ditch the flares
Anyone remember fighting with ww2 tanks at night??
That sounds interesting af. Seems like I missed out on something fun yet annoying lmao
Man 5.7 at night was scary 😅 and the NVDs modification was actually useful
I remember playing tiger 1 in the stormy night simulator battle all the way back in CBT. Was really fun and sometimes to see a tank you had to crash into it. Wish we still had old simulator battles but with the amount of copy pastes it would get really confusing sometimes.
Cock and ball torture
Remember when you could actually play them and it wasn't a massive waste of time and weren't constantly fighting bullshit that was 10 years newer
Whaaaaat u didn’t like fighting against a Pt which had nvds while I were in ya tiger??
The bigger deal is how uneconomic they became to play. Fuck your 5.7, here's a 30k repair cost.
At least you joined night battles... It's been months since I activated the "join night battles" thing in the game and the only one I saw was me accidentally setting night in a test drive.
That’s interesting… What’s your highest BR? I’m always getting night battles at top BR but it’s never a full game.
I'm currently at 9.0
Night battles are only br 10.0+
How? I can activate them. What's the point in doing that if you can join only after 10.0
I guess its because the game doesnt check if you have anything above 10+ and just allows you to join when you eventually get there. Also doesnt it say its only br 10+ when you go to activate it?
Not really, at least for me. I activated it for the rewards.
This right here, if it's already optional, why make it 10.0+ and add flares
Yep. Gaijin moment
I’m pretty sure I’ve played “day” battles with certain weather that are darker than night battles.
agreed or atleast make it as an option
you have commited some crimes with polynom tone mapping to get those visibilities what are your values
Remove the flares and add head lights to ALL vehicles!
Yea, It was only usefull when you couldent toggle night battles, now that you can, they should be as authentic as possible.
They should remove ULQ abuse too
The flares are the whole reason I don't play night battles. Maybe it's changed since I played but I remember not being able to see between flares without NVD and the flares giving me a headache unless I turned NVD off.
On desert maps the flares make NVD bright as hell
Nuh uh
I have been trying to get a night battle and still yet to get one
It’s great for the players who don’t have NVG’s, but once you do get those you get blinded every minute or so when the flare goes up. So I’d be fine with removing them
No
Absolutely, I mean what's the point of NVD if you can see better without them
I feel like flares should be an artillery option as should smoke
I play night battles with my leopard 2PL only and become a gremlin
Get rid of the flares, make nvd stock but thermals researched.
I totally agree, even more for top tier, it ruins the whole purpose of gen 3 thermal vision 50% of the battle, also yes it would be pain to grind without it but then u can just not click the night battle option, so yeah, remove it for 10.3 ~ 11.7
im pretty sure the flares are only there to help cas see the ground depending on what weapons they are using or if their aircraft's targeting pod doesnt have nvd/thermals
Personally I'd like it if they were kept in but only fire them off every few minutes and reduce their duration. Right now the map is illuminated 70%+ of the time, when it could be like 5-10% of the time. I think having the visibility change adds some interesting gameplay dynamics, rather than having everyone drive around with NVG/thermals on the entire match. But having the entire map illuminated most of the match defeats the point of night battles in the first place.
With the flares, they're just day battles with extra steps.
agreed, also make them accessible for br 7.7 and up
Or give illumination rounds to scout vehicles or add illumination rockets for aircraft
battlefield illumination flares have been around for hundreds of years, and this is a realism game…
That's right. There has never been a single battle in which tanks have fought at night without them either good point.
Yeah so realistic that there’s fuckloads of Tiger IIs on the western front for some reason
now your splitting hairs
No
night battles irl use flares.
No you MUST enjoy day battle 2.0