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> President Isaac Herzog said the act was one of “pure hate.”
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> “I unequivocally condemn the permission granted in Sweden to burn holy books. As the President of the State of Israel, I condemned the burning of the Quran, sacred to Muslims world over, and I am now heartbroken that the same fate awaits a Jewish Bible, the eternal book of the Jewish people,” Herzog said in a statement.
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> “Permitting the defacement of sacred texts is not an exercise in freedom of expression, it is blatant incitement and an act of pure hate. The whole world must join together in clearly condemning this repulsive act.”
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> Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said “Israel viewed very severely this shameful decision to harm the holy of holies of the Jewish people.”
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> Foreign Minister Eli Cohen also condemned the plans and said the ministry had conveyed to the Swedish embassy in Israel “the severity with which Israel views the police permission to harm sacred Jewish objects.”
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> Cohen called the decision “a hate crime, a provocation causing grave harm to the Jewish people and Jewish tradition.”
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> “I call on the authorities in Sweden to prevent this shameful act,” he said.
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> Israel’s Ambassador to Sweden Ziv Nevo Kulman on Friday expressed his dismay over the fact Stockholm gave the request a green light.
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> “I utterly condemn the burning of holy books sacred to any religion, as an act of hate and disrespect, that has nothing to do with freedom of expression,” he tweeted.
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> Israel’s Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi David Lau also sent a letter to Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson urging him to stop the desecration.
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> Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi David Lau attends a ceremony of the Israeli police for the Jewish new year at the National Headquarters of the Israel Police in Jerusalem on September 5, 2021. (Olivier Fitoussi/Flash90)
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> “I call on you to do everything possible to prevent this act. Freedom of expression does not mean permitting everything,” Lau wrote.
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> “Any desecration of sacred Jewish items is not freedom, but antisemitism,” he said.
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> Chief Sephardic Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef implored Sweden’s figurehead king Carl XVI Gustaf to intervene, condemning the planned event as well as the recent burning of the Quran in front of a mosque in Sweden.
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> “By preventing this event from occurring, you would send a powerful message to the world that Sweden stands firmly against religious intolerance and that such acts have no place in a civilized society,” he wrote.
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> According to the Ynet news site, Diaspora Minister Amichai Chikli also wrote a letter to Kristersson requesting that the Swedish premier order a stop to the burning.
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> Swedish Foreign Minister Tobias Billström responded to Chikli, saying that the Swedish government is not authorized to infringe upon its citizens’ constitutional right of free speech but emphasized his country’s efforts in combating antisemitism.
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> Meanwhile, United Torah Judaism MK Moshe Gafni called Foreign Minister Eli Cohen to urge additional steps to try and stop the burning, the Walla news site reported.
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> “This is a shameful act and we can’t allow it, I reverently hope that we will manage to stop this,” he said.
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> The European Jewish Congress also issued a statement strongly condemning the act.
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> “Provocative, racist, antisemitic and sickening acts such as these have no place in any civilized society,” EJC president Ariel Muzicant said.
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> “Stamping on the deepest religious and cultural sensibilities of people is the clearest expression possible to send a message that minorities are unwelcome and unrespected,” Muzicant added. “These actions, based on contorted and specious free speech arguments, are a disgrace to Sweden and any democratic government worthy of the name should prevent it.”
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> Two weeks ago, the Swedish police allowed a Quran burning in front of a mosque in Stockholm to go ahead, citing freedom of speech after a court overturned a ban on Quran burning.
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> Young girls take part in a rally called by ‘Muslim Women League’ group take part in a rally to denounce the recent desecration of Islam’s holy book by far-right activists in Sweden and the Netherlands, in Lahore, Pakistan, Sunday, January 29, 2023. (AP Photo/K.M. Chaudary)
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> Sweden’s government condemned the Quran burning, calling it an “Islamophobic” act after a call for collective measures to avoid future Quran burnings was issued by the Saudi-based Organization of Islamic Cooperation.
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> The 57-member body met at its Jeddah headquarters to respond to the incident, in which an Iraqi citizen living in Sweden, Salwan Momika, 37, stomped on the Islamic holy book, filled some pages with bacon and set several others alight.
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> “The burning of the Quran, or any other holy text, is an offensive and disrespectful act and a clear provocation. Expressions of racism, xenophobia and related intolerance have no place in Sweden or in Europe,” the Swedish foreign ministry said.
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> Countries including Iraq, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, and Morocco summoned Swedish ambassadors in protest at the Quran-burning incident.
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> Salwan Momika holds up a Quran before setting some pages on fire in a protest outside a mosque in Stockholm on June 28, 2023, during the Eid al-Adha holiday. (Jonathan Nackstrand/AFP)
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> Swedish police had granted Momika a permit in line with free speech protections, but authorities later said they had opened an investigation over “agitation against an ethnic group,” noting that Momika had burnt pages from the Islamic holy book very close to Stockholm’s largest mosque.
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well this is in response to a Quran being burned and i think its the same guy is burning both a Torah and a Bible so i think that is the big three sacred books?
> think its the same guy is burning both a Torah and a Bible
There is nothing in the article that says it the same guy. The article doesn’t know who the guy is.
Imagine turning up at the event with a quran and ask if you can join the free speech book burning festival, and the guy going all ape shit that you can't burn THAT ONE.
Jew here: ok cool we even then? I know it was likely a Christian or atheist who burnt that Quran, but I have no problem with just any off thr shelf copy of the torah being burnt if it stops people losing their shit over their book getting burnt.
I know it's not the US but that's why I'm glad the US took us in after... 'us' got killed until it was down to one man. People who buy them themselves and dont cauae aome risk with the fire itself, can burn all the books and we know you're in the wrong when you lose your fucking mind and either threaten or enact violent reprisals. The freedom of and from religion, and to offend is essential IMO.
If no one is harmed no one is harmed. I understand the fear of the idea of people burning torahs all day and fomenting antisemitic sentiment. This guy first of all could have a bit of a point where either he can do that or they shouldn't be able to burn the Quran. I agree with that wholeheartedly and all should be allowed but frowned upon socially. I have a sneaking suspicion he might also want it illegal to burn the Quran though and if he hates jews I doubt it's new nor will he incite hatred, provided it's really just eye for an eye symbolic shit, not a threat.
>Chief Sephardic Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef implored Sweden’s figurehead king Carl XVI Gustaf to intervene
Hah, that's funny as hell. Sure, "Knugen" will *definitely* rouse the armed forces and overthrow democratic rule.
As usual these people are incapable of understanding that it's literally impossible for the Swedish government to do anything to stop this, the constitution doesn't allow for it. But secular law is obviously too strange a phenomenon to grasp.
Wow that's on advance level of idiotic thinking our king can do anything in the first place, but even wanting him to limit freedom of expression?? It's like going up to someone saying "I am really stupid I think 1+1=Fish."
I’d love to see each religious community’s holy book burned, and just watch the selective outrage pour in. In typical conservative fashion, the outrage only comes out once it’s your specific community/belief in the crosshairs. If they sat back and gleefully watched the Quran being burned without screaming “hate crime”, they can do the same when the Torah/Bible get turned to ash.
Someone mentioned in the comments here that there is one then more important book in Hinduism so which one of those would be used? I feel like the decision over that would be kinds heated.
Do they have version that has multiple books in one book like the LOTR trilogy special edition? Maybe we just burn every book. Fahrenheit 451 it. New books. Old books. Harry Potter books. Just one copy of every book in existence. Even the rare ones.
I love how when the Iraqi man living in Sweden burned the Quran, the Swedish government started talking about racism and xenophobia. Please, we all know that the Iraqi man didn't burn the book because he's a racist. I suppose the voter base needed to be assured that they weren't the bad guys for allowing actual freedom of speech.
Imagine being in such an uproar about some ink on paper that a literal government has to protest it. Just one more reason why the West should not support Israel
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If it's not a historical artefact from a museum, then any legal owner has a right to do whatever they want with it. If they bought the book, then they can burn the book.
A society where you *aren't* allowed to burn certain books would be even worse. If all that is harmed is a book, it's a relatively benign form of protest.
##### ###### #### > # [Israel protests as Sweden allows Torah burning outside embassy on Saturday](https://www.timesofisrael.com//640) > > > > Israeli officials protested to Sweden on Friday after local police gave the go-ahead to a request to allow the burning of a Bible outside of the Israeli embassy in Stockholm on Saturday, saying that the decision was tantamount to a “hate crime.” > > Local police two weeks ago said they had received an application from an individual in his 30s to burn a Jewish and a Christian Bible outside Israel’s Embassy in Stockholm on July 15 as “a symbolic gathering for the sake of freedom of speech.” It comes just weeks after Quran burnings took place in the city. > > It was not immediately clear if the person planned to burn a copy of the Bible or a Torah scroll. > > The move sparked widespread outrage in Israel and Jewish groups. > > President Isaac Herzog said the act was one of “pure hate.” > > Get The Times of Israel's Daily Editionby email and never miss our top stories > > By signing up, you agree to the [terms](https://www.timesofisrael.com/terms) > > > > > > > > “I unequivocally condemn the permission granted in Sweden to burn holy books. As the President of the State of Israel, I condemned the burning of the Quran, sacred to Muslims world over, and I am now heartbroken that the same fate awaits a Jewish Bible, the eternal book of the Jewish people,” Herzog said in a statement. > > “Permitting the defacement of sacred texts is not an exercise in freedom of expression, it is blatant incitement and an act of pure hate. The whole world must join together in clearly condemning this repulsive act.” > > Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said “Israel viewed very severely this shameful decision to harm the holy of holies of the Jewish people.” > > Foreign Minister Eli Cohen also condemned the plans and said the ministry had conveyed to the Swedish embassy in Israel “the severity with which Israel views the police permission to harm sacred Jewish objects.” > > Cohen called the decision “a hate crime, a provocation causing grave harm to the Jewish people and Jewish tradition.” > > “I call on the authorities in Sweden to prevent this shameful act,” he said. > > Israel’s Ambassador to Sweden Ziv Nevo Kulman on Friday expressed his dismay over the fact Stockholm gave the request a green light. > > “I utterly condemn the burning of holy books sacred to any religion, as an act of hate and disrespect, that has nothing to do with freedom of expression,” he tweeted. > > Israel’s Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi David Lau also sent a letter to Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson urging him to stop the desecration. > > [[Image](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2021/12/F210905OF21-640x400.jpg)](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2021/12/F210905OF21.jpg) > > Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi David Lau attends a ceremony of the Israeli police for the Jewish new year at the National Headquarters of the Israel Police in Jerusalem on September 5, 2021. (Olivier Fitoussi/Flash90) > > > > “I call on you to do everything possible to prevent this act. Freedom of expression does not mean permitting everything,” Lau wrote. > > “Any desecration of sacred Jewish items is not freedom, but antisemitism,” he said. > > Chief Sephardic Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef implored Sweden’s figurehead king Carl XVI Gustaf to intervene, condemning the planned event as well as the recent burning of the Quran in front of a mosque in Sweden. > > “By preventing this event from occurring, you would send a powerful message to the world that Sweden stands firmly against religious intolerance and that such acts have no place in a civilized society,” he wrote. > > According to the Ynet news site, Diaspora Minister Amichai Chikli also wrote a letter to Kristersson requesting that the Swedish premier order a stop to the burning. > > Swedish Foreign Minister Tobias Billström responded to Chikli, saying that the Swedish government is not authorized to infringe upon its citizens’ constitutional right of free speech but emphasized his country’s efforts in combating antisemitism. > > Meanwhile, United Torah Judaism MK Moshe Gafni called Foreign Minister Eli Cohen to urge additional steps to try and stop the burning, the Walla news site reported. > > “This is a shameful act and we can’t allow it, I reverently hope that we will manage to stop this,” he said. > > The European Jewish Congress also issued a statement strongly condemning the act. > > “Provocative, racist, antisemitic and sickening acts such as these have no place in any civilized society,” EJC president Ariel Muzicant said. > > “Stamping on the deepest religious and cultural sensibilities of people is the clearest expression possible to send a message that minorities are unwelcome and unrespected,” Muzicant added. “These actions, based on contorted and specious free speech arguments, are a disgrace to Sweden and any democratic government worthy of the name should prevent it.” > > Two weeks ago, the Swedish police allowed a Quran burning in front of a mosque in Stockholm to go ahead, citing freedom of speech after a court overturned a ban on Quran burning. > > [[Image](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2023/06/AP23029476084093-640x400.jpg)](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2023/06/AP23029476084093.jpg) > > Young girls take part in a rally called by ‘Muslim Women League’ group take part in a rally to denounce the recent desecration of Islam’s holy book by far-right activists in Sweden and the Netherlands, in Lahore, Pakistan, Sunday, January 29, 2023. (AP Photo/K.M. Chaudary) > > > > Sweden’s government condemned the Quran burning, calling it an “Islamophobic” act after a call for collective measures to avoid future Quran burnings was issued by the Saudi-based Organization of Islamic Cooperation. > > The 57-member body met at its Jeddah headquarters to respond to the incident, in which an Iraqi citizen living in Sweden, Salwan Momika, 37, stomped on the Islamic holy book, filled some pages with bacon and set several others alight. > > “The burning of the Quran, or any other holy text, is an offensive and disrespectful act and a clear provocation. Expressions of racism, xenophobia and related intolerance have no place in Sweden or in Europe,” the Swedish foreign ministry said. > > At the same time, the ministry added that Sweden has a “constitutionally protected right to freedom of assembly, expression and demonstration.” > > Countries including Iraq, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, and Morocco summoned Swedish ambassadors in protest at the Quran-burning incident. > > [[Image](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2023/06/33LE9Z4-highres-640x400.jpg)](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2023/06/33LE9Z4-highres.jpg) > > Salwan Momika holds up a Quran before setting some pages on fire in a protest outside a mosque in Stockholm on June 28, 2023, during the Eid al-Adha holiday. (Jonathan Nackstrand/AFP) > > > > Swedish police had granted Momika a permit in line with free speech protections, but authorities later said they had opened an investigation over “agitation against an ethnic group,” noting that Momika had burnt pages from the Islamic holy book very close to Stockholm’s largest mosque. > > _AFP contributed to this report._ - - - - - - [Maintainer](https://www.reddit.com/user/urielsalis) | [Creator](https://www.reddit.com/user/subtepass) | [Source Code](https://github.com/urielsalis/empleadoEstatalBot) Summoning /u/CoverageAnalysisBot
Just burn every sacred Book and be done with it
well this is in response to a Quran being burned and i think its the same guy is burning both a Torah and a Bible so i think that is the big three sacred books?
> think its the same guy is burning both a Torah and a Bible There is nothing in the article that says it the same guy. The article doesn’t know who the guy is.
Oh I meant it's the same guy planning to burn the Torah and Bible as far as I can tell
Imagine turning up at the event with a quran and ask if you can join the free speech book burning festival, and the guy going all ape shit that you can't burn THAT ONE.
Yea that part is correct. I thought you said it's the same guy burning all three but I read it wrong.
The Torah is the first 5 books of the Bible
True, total waste to buy a torah tbh it's already included in the sequel edition.
Jew here: ok cool we even then? I know it was likely a Christian or atheist who burnt that Quran, but I have no problem with just any off thr shelf copy of the torah being burnt if it stops people losing their shit over their book getting burnt. I know it's not the US but that's why I'm glad the US took us in after... 'us' got killed until it was down to one man. People who buy them themselves and dont cauae aome risk with the fire itself, can burn all the books and we know you're in the wrong when you lose your fucking mind and either threaten or enact violent reprisals. The freedom of and from religion, and to offend is essential IMO. If no one is harmed no one is harmed. I understand the fear of the idea of people burning torahs all day and fomenting antisemitic sentiment. This guy first of all could have a bit of a point where either he can do that or they shouldn't be able to burn the Quran. I agree with that wholeheartedly and all should be allowed but frowned upon socially. I have a sneaking suspicion he might also want it illegal to burn the Quran though and if he hates jews I doubt it's new nor will he incite hatred, provided it's really just eye for an eye symbolic shit, not a threat.
Equal rights in action
>Chief Sephardic Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef implored Sweden’s figurehead king Carl XVI Gustaf to intervene Hah, that's funny as hell. Sure, "Knugen" will *definitely* rouse the armed forces and overthrow democratic rule. As usual these people are incapable of understanding that it's literally impossible for the Swedish government to do anything to stop this, the constitution doesn't allow for it. But secular law is obviously too strange a phenomenon to grasp.
Jewish secularism was always a strange beast, born out of a uneasy compromise between the secular Zionists and religious Jewish leaders.
Wow that's on advance level of idiotic thinking our king can do anything in the first place, but even wanting him to limit freedom of expression?? It's like going up to someone saying "I am really stupid I think 1+1=Fish."
>1+1=Fish Tbf, we are talking about Swedes here. Fish can be the solution to a lot of problems.
Everyone knows 1+1=Window
The king ”can” do something but he won’t as that would be utterly idiotic and threaten the existence of the royal family.
lol even in the same country of the quran burning
That's the point. It's about freedom in Sweden, not about hating religious texts.
That would sort of make sense if Swedes were actually involved in any of these book burnings, rather than foreigners coming to Sweden to stir shit.
I think most have dual citizenships, but whatever floats their boat. As long as they don't harm anyone and it's their own property, I am fine with it.
Yes.
Seems fair
I should get into business selling 'holy books' for morons to burn, clearly there's a market.
All holy books are for morons
Not all of them, some are for people who were just raised in communities of morons, and have yet to rise above it.
Which would make them just books
Not if you punch a bunch of holes in them.
So they can breathe?
Sell inflammable holy books to people who want to burn holy books and people who hate burning holy books and don't know the difference.
hahaha
I'll ~~take~~ burn 10!
I’d love to see each religious community’s holy book burned, and just watch the selective outrage pour in. In typical conservative fashion, the outrage only comes out once it’s your specific community/belief in the crosshairs. If they sat back and gleefully watched the Quran being burned without screaming “hate crime”, they can do the same when the Torah/Bible get turned to ash.
Can we just put a copy of all the important books together, one from every religion on earth, and burn them. That way it’s equal
Someone mentioned in the comments here that there is one then more important book in Hinduism so which one of those would be used? I feel like the decision over that would be kinds heated.
Do they have version that has multiple books in one book like the LOTR trilogy special edition? Maybe we just burn every book. Fahrenheit 451 it. New books. Old books. Harry Potter books. Just one copy of every book in existence. Even the rare ones.
I wonder if they do it in Indian context, what will they choose? Gita, Ramayan, Upnishads, vedas?
All of them taped together?
God damn! Thats a really neat idea
Not all of India are Hindus. And they don't have a holy book.
Sweden "piss off every nation speedrun any %"
Goddam it. Are we gonna have to start burning torahs over here so we can tell him to fuck off with his apparent wish for blasphemy laws?
I guess this is just our thing now. Also, >Chief Sephardic Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef implored Sweden’s figurehead king Carl XVI Gustaf to intervene Lmao
I love how when the Iraqi man living in Sweden burned the Quran, the Swedish government started talking about racism and xenophobia. Please, we all know that the Iraqi man didn't burn the book because he's a racist. I suppose the voter base needed to be assured that they weren't the bad guys for allowing actual freedom of speech.
Imagine being in such an uproar about some ink on paper that a literal government has to protest it. Just one more reason why the West should not support Israel
Guess what, Israel. You have plenty to spare.
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If it's not a historical artefact from a museum, then any legal owner has a right to do whatever they want with it. If they bought the book, then they can burn the book.
israel also kills women, children, elderly alike. i think the difference is clear.
Burning Books regardless of who’s book it is or your freedom to do so is a rather negative indicator about a society.
A society where you *aren't* allowed to burn certain books would be even worse. If all that is harmed is a book, it's a relatively benign form of protest.