These guys (except maybe Charlie Rowe) all seem too hot to sign on for four movies at once, I’m gonna take this with a grain of salt. I might be wrong but we’ll see.
IMO, for a British/Irish actor in their late 20s/early 30s, the Beatles are the best possible roles/career opportunities available
With this project, not only do you get to be a lead of your own film, but also work with an Oscar winning director, and you get to play some of the most iconic musicians in history
Not to mention the potential for awards, like if it's good, the Paul movie could totally be Paul Mescal's Oscar. Shit, if Sony play their cards right, maybe all 4 of them get nominated for their movies, which would be bonkers.
I think the long filming time will be worth it
I see what you’re saying. It would be very tempting as an actor to be THE guy to play John Lennon in the biggest ever Beatles movie that doesn’t star the actual Beatles. You might be right.
right but FILMING four movies if you’re super in-demand like these guys are, it’s a big time commitment that takes you away from other projects.
Like, I imagine that whoever plays John is not just gonna have a one scene cameo in the Paul movie, yknow?
It’s a massive commitment but the project has the potential to be iconic and huge. I mean, it’s The Beatles. Lots of money and fame to be gained here, and these actors could have the project living up to the potential.
Right. Bigger commitment than just signing up for one movie, but a smaller commitment than signing up for four completely separate productions. And probably a better career move than, say, signing a multipicture deal to be in a superhero franchise.
Yeah each of them basically gets four shots at an Oscar--one for lead and three for supporting. Though now that I'm saying that, it's occurring to me that they all run the risk of splitting the vote.
They are shooting these at the same time I believe. So it will be a long shoot, but it will be one shoot, and given each one has a different focus I can’t imagine it adds up to four film shoots worth of work for any of them. More like shooting a really long film.
Absolutely insane, possibly even racist against orangutans, to leave out Maurice imo
Ps- his death date on the fan wiki is very funny to me
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When do we think these would be set? Paul for the early days, Ringo for Beatlemania, John for the studio era/going to India, and George for the break-up? Maybe you start with Beatlemania, and then set the Paul or John movie post break-up?
This sounds fun, I hope he makes these.
I think your first idea probably nailed it, but could switch John and George. Could also switch George and Ringo instead I think.
I initially thought that all the movies might span the life of the band, just shown from a different perspective each time. Different aspects or events of Beatlemania shown in each movie for example.
You use Ringo for the post break-up and have all the Wings and solo albums and murder happen in the background while he records Thomas the Tank Engine. In fact, really delve into the making of Thomas the Tank Engine. By film four, people will be Beatled out. Let them learn about building a miniature village or how they animated the eyes.
Love this idea, but I think it will be John for the early years. His youth really packs an emotional punch (death of mother, abuse, a strong willed aunt, being extremely smart but poor and just full of attitude) that echoes throughout the Beatles. Ringo for Beatlemania, Paul playing peacekeeper as the band disintegrates and George on his spiritual journey into the 70s I could see working.
They're all too old but they always seem to cast actors too old for their parts. The Beatles had broken up by the time they were as old as these actors.
Well, they’re not THAT far off. The oldest is Kheogan and he’s 31. He’s exactly one year older than Ringo when the band broke up. I’ve seen worse casting.
Depends on the actor. I don’t know makeup but I know a bit of digital fx work and it’s easier to de-age than to de-young, at least when we’re talking about making a 30 year old look 20-ish. Just a bit of smoothing and rounding.
I can't decide if that incongruence makes it more or less real - like I could imagine him getting into character and hair/makeup selling the look and that could be part of the marketing story, but it doesn't seem like a slam dunk. I'm sure he'd be good even it strays from what I imagine a Ringo performance would be.
Argh this just reminds me how much I don't like music biopics. Are they going to be scrappy kids whose talent takes them to the top on a roller coaster journey but then they fight fame/substance use/commercialization/each other, but then they find themselves and reconnect with each other/their art one last time in the last act?
I know, thank God we don't all like the same thing or there'd be a worldwide shortage of oatmeal, but heck.
But then how will the viewers know whether it's good or bad to do every single cocaine???
I want one one day where the entire career of the musicians is a carefully constructed front, a ruse they keep up when defending the world from a secret alien invasion and the tabloid photos where they appear stoned out of their gourd is because they've been hit with a stun ray, the breakup of the band is staged in the press because they all secretly boarded the ship to go lead the front invading the mothership, etc. The divorce is because she turned out to have been body snatched.
I guess Jack Black, Paul Rudd, Justin Long and Jason Schwartzman were all too busy...
Beatles, please, stop fighting here in India!
I wrote a song about an octopus.
You're lucky we still let you play the drooms.
I like the little one
I'll just sit here while me guitar quietly whimpers
I'm sick of you being so dark when I am so impish and whimsical! I'm sick of it!
Greeeeat record. great record
*Great record...* ...great record
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...'imagine'.
These guys (except maybe Charlie Rowe) all seem too hot to sign on for four movies at once, I’m gonna take this with a grain of salt. I might be wrong but we’ll see.
IMO, for a British/Irish actor in their late 20s/early 30s, the Beatles are the best possible roles/career opportunities available With this project, not only do you get to be a lead of your own film, but also work with an Oscar winning director, and you get to play some of the most iconic musicians in history Not to mention the potential for awards, like if it's good, the Paul movie could totally be Paul Mescal's Oscar. Shit, if Sony play their cards right, maybe all 4 of them get nominated for their movies, which would be bonkers. I think the long filming time will be worth it
I see what you’re saying. It would be very tempting as an actor to be THE guy to play John Lennon in the biggest ever Beatles movie that doesn’t star the actual Beatles. You might be right.
They’ll each get to lead their own films right? I imagine Sony wants big stars in each of these parts.
right but FILMING four movies if you’re super in-demand like these guys are, it’s a big time commitment that takes you away from other projects. Like, I imagine that whoever plays John is not just gonna have a one scene cameo in the Paul movie, yknow?
It’s a massive commitment but the project has the potential to be iconic and huge. I mean, it’s The Beatles. Lots of money and fame to be gained here, and these actors could have the project living up to the potential.
They are all being filmed in one go. The process won’t dominate their careers for long. In fact I’d be surprised if the shoot takes up nine months.
Right. Bigger commitment than just signing up for one movie, but a smaller commitment than signing up for four completely separate productions. And probably a better career move than, say, signing a multipicture deal to be in a superhero franchise.
This has Oscar nom all over it
Yeah each of them basically gets four shots at an Oscar--one for lead and three for supporting. Though now that I'm saying that, it's occurring to me that they all run the risk of splitting the vote.
Im sure they’ll call it one movie if it all comes out the same year. Or they’ll pick one movie where that character is more proeminent.
They are shooting these at the same time I believe. So it will be a long shoot, but it will be one shoot, and given each one has a different focus I can’t imagine it adds up to four film shoots worth of work for any of them. More like shooting a really long film.
I personally would like to see Caesar, Koba, Noa, and Bad Ape cast
Absolutely insane, possibly even racist against orangutans, to leave out Maurice imo Ps- his death date on the fan wiki is very funny to me https://preview.redd.it/ypuh0z93ct4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f10fc65a5973994472e75bb94db207749edebb1
Maurice is definitely a PR person who tries to keep everyone level-headed.
Maurice can be Brian Epstein.
If there was ever a perfect Ringo
Caesar as John, Koba as George, Noa as Paul and Bad Ape as Ringo right?
Yes obviously!
Proximus Caesar as Pete Best
I mean they can totally cast them as The Monkees
George R.R. Martin as George Martin
Great, now the song of ice and fire will NEVER get finished!
Sweet summer child.
Ahmed Best as Pete Best
Austin Buter as Yoko Ono
Keoghan better work on that scouse accent after Saltburn
'elp us
Dickinson and Mescal should swap roles if this is real
When do we think these would be set? Paul for the early days, Ringo for Beatlemania, John for the studio era/going to India, and George for the break-up? Maybe you start with Beatlemania, and then set the Paul or John movie post break-up? This sounds fun, I hope he makes these.
I think your first idea probably nailed it, but could switch John and George. Could also switch George and Ringo instead I think. I initially thought that all the movies might span the life of the band, just shown from a different perspective each time. Different aspects or events of Beatlemania shown in each movie for example.
You use Ringo for the post break-up and have all the Wings and solo albums and murder happen in the background while he records Thomas the Tank Engine. In fact, really delve into the making of Thomas the Tank Engine. By film four, people will be Beatled out. Let them learn about building a miniature village or how they animated the eyes.
You've sorta blown my mind about when it'll be set. For some reason I didn't even consider different eras. Neat!
Love this idea, but I think it will be John for the early years. His youth really packs an emotional punch (death of mother, abuse, a strong willed aunt, being extremely smart but poor and just full of attitude) that echoes throughout the Beatles. Ringo for Beatlemania, Paul playing peacekeeper as the band disintegrates and George on his spiritual journey into the 70s I could see working.
They're all too old but they always seem to cast actors too old for their parts. The Beatles had broken up by the time they were as old as these actors.
Well, they’re not THAT far off. The oldest is Kheogan and he’s 31. He’s exactly one year older than Ringo when the band broke up. I’ve seen worse casting.
Sure but I assume the movies will start when they were teenagers.
Well they have makeup and CGI for a reason
They also have younger actors for a reason
Yes, but it's easier to sell "Paul Mescal as Paul McCartney" to studios and audiences than "Some Kid as Paul McCartney".
Legit question for anyone who knows makeup: is it easier to make a 20 year old actor look 30 or to make a 30 year old actor look 20?
Depends on the actor. I don’t know makeup but I know a bit of digital fx work and it’s easier to de-age than to de-young, at least when we’re talking about making a 30 year old look 20-ish. Just a bit of smoothing and rounding.
Only way to solve this: DiCaprio as Jedgar vs. Deniro as Irish-Man.
I can see these choices working.
Barry Keoghan as Ringo is a really fun choice
Schnozzcasting
Barry Keoghan as anything is usually a fun choice.
Love Barry Keoghan but I don’t see Ringo there
I can't decide if that incongruence makes it more or less real - like I could imagine him getting into character and hair/makeup selling the look and that could be part of the marketing story, but it doesn't seem like a slam dunk. I'm sure he'd be good even it strays from what I imagine a Ringo performance would be.
We’ve never seen him do a Liverpool accent.
I don’t know - put the nose and bangs on him and I think he’s got the right sleepy-sad eyes.
Keoghan seems so short and stocky, I think of Ringo as thin and scrawny
I love Paul Mescal but not at all for Paul McCartney 😭
Agreed, he'd be much better as George.
But who's playing Mal???? https://preview.redd.it/z2f3rd0c3u4d1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fbf7f183f1c81ff45e601f3c83642c89368ccb1
Eric Wareheim!!
Rhys Ifans if he starts eating ice cream every day starting now
Matt Johnson
Sounds like a Film Twitter fan cast
Mike Hanford is the obvious choice for John, no? /s
God, I just hope they don't bury them in fucked wigs and bad prosthetics. Just give them close-enough/period hair cuts and let them act.
Sneider is not reliable.
Mescal is too brooding for Paul. Would be great as John though
Just put shoes on Jacob Elordi's knees and you've got your Paul.
Mescal for Ringo, Dickinson for George, and Keoghan for John makes far more sense in my mind. De-age Andrew Scott a bit and you’d have your McCartney.
Is Roger Deakins shooting? I'd love if each one had a different DP, but I need psychedelic Roger Deakins pretty pretty please.
Argh this just reminds me how much I don't like music biopics. Are they going to be scrappy kids whose talent takes them to the top on a roller coaster journey but then they fight fame/substance use/commercialization/each other, but then they find themselves and reconnect with each other/their art one last time in the last act? I know, thank God we don't all like the same thing or there'd be a worldwide shortage of oatmeal, but heck.
I think Mendes is a bit too high brow for that Bohemian Rhapsody generic crap
But then how will the viewers know whether it's good or bad to do every single cocaine??? I want one one day where the entire career of the musicians is a carefully constructed front, a ruse they keep up when defending the world from a secret alien invasion and the tabloid photos where they appear stoned out of their gourd is because they've been hit with a stun ray, the breakup of the band is staged in the press because they all secretly boarded the ship to go lead the front invading the mothership, etc. The divorce is because she turned out to have been body snatched.
He directed two Bond movies, plus biopics really live or die on the strength of the script.
I don't care about the Beatles, but this is a fun concept for historical movies.
It’s a huge swing that has the potential to go catastrophically bad or could be a really cool communal moviegoing experience Love to see it
I will be very sad if Ringo movie is the only one that bombs at the box office.
Barry Keoghan did quite possibly the worst scouse accent I have ever heard in saltburn. Not a great casting ngl
Jeff Snider is a real snobby boy
Personally, I think Paul Mescal looks more like John Lennon than Harris Dickerson.
The concept is funny on paper but I don't see how it could go well
Get the woman who played the witches in Joel Coen’s MacBeth to play all of them.
Sam Mendes is so mid! Perfect choice for The Beatles I guess
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Thank god someone is finally making a movie about this boomer indie band that was almost lost to time as the boomers die-off.
You’ve officially received more downvotes than Mark David Chapman.
And that guy had some strong opinions about The Last Jedi.