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Women nowadays are 20x worse than their grandmother but the amount of effort has significantly increased to most men women are a liability.
We rather see you prove our opinions wrong by not being the average women for most men to gain a valuable trust to you.
We’d rather see you be a man and lead than play victim and blame others for your shortcomings
Be the best you can be. Be an example. Lead. And you will attract women you don’t have to ask to prove things to you or gain your trust by proving things to you. That is not how a successful relationship is constructed.
See, this is what I mean.
This response is what I’m talking about
I think it’s wrong to point fingers just at one side while not considering the bigger picture. Obviously society has changed and so has dating and love. More traditional people find this hard to stomach. I also think you can’t really blame people for not knowing something. Men aren’t really taught these things. Conversely, it’s wrong for women to expect for men to do all the work. Women will get this idea in their head of what a relationship is/what they want it to be which may not be entirely realistic. I agree that there are a lot of men(boys) who are subpar, and frankly there are plenty of women like that too. I think you just have to find someone similar to you, but just bashing and generalizing is no way to make any progress, and only serves to be more divisive
Trying to assign blame is entirely unproductive. Who cares who’s to blame. There’s a problem, it seems like we both agree on that, so instead of assigning blame maybe try to find a solution instead of just whining about the problem.
Thanks for your concern but we're doing fine. If your assumptions about that age range are formed by reading posts on a dating subreddit, you're getting a very skewed image of things.
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Women nowadays are 20x worse than their grandmother but the amount of effort has significantly increased to most men women are a liability. We rather see you prove our opinions wrong by not being the average women for most men to gain a valuable trust to you.
We’d rather see you be a man and lead than play victim and blame others for your shortcomings Be the best you can be. Be an example. Lead. And you will attract women you don’t have to ask to prove things to you or gain your trust by proving things to you. That is not how a successful relationship is constructed. See, this is what I mean. This response is what I’m talking about
I think it’s wrong to point fingers just at one side while not considering the bigger picture. Obviously society has changed and so has dating and love. More traditional people find this hard to stomach. I also think you can’t really blame people for not knowing something. Men aren’t really taught these things. Conversely, it’s wrong for women to expect for men to do all the work. Women will get this idea in their head of what a relationship is/what they want it to be which may not be entirely realistic. I agree that there are a lot of men(boys) who are subpar, and frankly there are plenty of women like that too. I think you just have to find someone similar to you, but just bashing and generalizing is no way to make any progress, and only serves to be more divisive
Men aren’t taught these things. So who is to blame?
Trying to assign blame is entirely unproductive. Who cares who’s to blame. There’s a problem, it seems like we both agree on that, so instead of assigning blame maybe try to find a solution instead of just whining about the problem.
Thanks for your concern but we're doing fine. If your assumptions about that age range are formed by reading posts on a dating subreddit, you're getting a very skewed image of things.
Men are not doing fine whatsoever. Not by a LONGSHOT