I left Bangkok in early March to go back to Vietnam specifically Da Nang to get away from the heat, it was mid 30s in Bangkok at the time but real feel temp was like 41-43
Then by the time I was leaving Da Nang a few weeks into April it was about the same some days. I got to Malaysia and it's been even hotter some days. I worry for the people of South East Asia what it will be like in a few decades.
i'm in nha trang
i'm just fine with the aircon. It's hot outside, but also not insanely hot
I'm from spain so I'm used to summers with absurd levels of heat
I came two weeks ago form BKK to Manila and was so happy with the temperature. BKK was 38° feels like 47° in my weather app. In Manila it was more like 38° feels like 38°😂
I am on the neighbour island Bohol. A relaxed 32° degree and partly cloudy the last few days. That's not too bad. I was a week ago in Manila and before that in BKK. This was much worse!
Just move to an air conditioned place and suck it up. Your $10K will get eaten up too fast with way too many changes otherwise. Once you start making money then move.
Would have been influenced by a YouTuber saying how amazingly wonderful it is for the clicks.
On that kind of budget it’s difficult to do a reconnaissance mission. You’ve just got to jump and hope.
He’s actually in one of the best countries for what he is trying to achieve. Super low cost of living. He would have to spend a whole lot more in Thailand for example and maybe not be able to stay for as long.
Gotta take your hat off to the guy. He’s probably figured correctly that he doesn’t wanna work 40 years in a cubicle to never be able to afford a house and retire broke. So he grabbed hold of his nutsack and took the plunge.
Has he got what it takes though? If he’s asking for advice on reddit based on how tough the start of the journey is to becoming self reliant… well probably not.
He’s gonna have to go back home and do some serious self hating for few more years before he commits. Or decides being a wage slave is a hell of a lot easier.
I hope you’re reading this OP. Put your big boy pants on and don’t leave that shitty room with the loud air conditioner until you get it done.
And make sure you leave enough money in the tin to get your arse back home.
PS. If you knew the journey I had to take you would think it was a horror movie by comparison. Nobody said it was gonna be easy or glamorous. Thats the price of freedom. Choose now. In or out. And commit either way. Don’t flip flop.
Thanks for the support, it is just that i was expecting 30-35 degres but now its 46 degres (feels like google temp) since i have been here of course during the day i just have to go to a office with ac. But when at the appartement AC is too expensive so we put it only from 10pm until 9 am. I have bad sleep and heat make everything i usually like doing hating it. Like working on the computer outside, going to the restaurant at noon and night , motorcycling / having a walk, boxing, gym etc
but yeah i have enough to come back to europe anyway in case shit goes wrong,
>Cambodia is the worst country in SEA
This is true if you've only visited like the 5 most popular countries in SEA. Cambodia is far nicer than Burma. And tbh I'd sooner return to Cambodia over the Philippines having spent months in both countries.
Why is that? I would have figured Philippines would be far more preferred to Cambodia. But it’s been decades since I’ve been to Philippines and years since I’ve been to Cambodia. Interested in hearing your reasoning and feedback.
OK, well, there are 11 SEA countries and nobody is living in Brunei, Timor-Leste, and only few are attempting Myanmar. Cambodia is the worst country out of the remaining 8 countries, IMO. At least the Philippines has good beaches and better food (although, the food isn’t that great in the Philippines either, IMO)
the idea was to come visit my friend and be hosted by him the first month and rent a place for me if i like the place but i really hate 41 degres all day
People here are suggesting AC (and they're right; turn on your AC!). Also consider changing your wardrobe - wear thin cotton or linen clothes. And drink plenty of water. It will take you a couple of weeks to acclimate, but it's very doable.
Have you stocked up on mosquito repellent? Dengue season is coming up.
I went to cambodia when there wasn't a heatwave and it was still way too hot. It became difficult to think properly if I was in the sun for any longer than a couple of minutes. It felt wayy hotter than Vietnam, even though it was only a couple of degrees in difference.
Would definitely recommend Da Lat as a place to go. Incredibly beautiful, with a warm and temperate mountain climate.
Sapa would be another choice for similar reasons, though I've personally never been there.
You keep asking people about weather and cost of living. If you’re going to run an online business you should have the skills to look that stuff up. Like what you should have done in Cambodia before coming: Google “average temperature by month in Cambodia”
Nairobi, Kigali, any mid sized city in Mexico in the mountains, Guatemala Antigua or quetzaltenango, Colombia Medellin or Pereira or Manizales, - all cities/places with warm but not hot weather. Don't know places in S.E Asia.
Costa Rica San Jose,
Where in Cambodia are you? If you're inland at Phnom Penh/Siem Reap it's going to be roasting for the next 6 months at least. The coastal regions will still be cool around this time of year, so you could hop a short flight down to Sihanoukville/Kep, or over to the border to Bangkok/Hanoi. Bear in mind the hurricane season is starting.
SE Asia is almost always hot as hell but will improve greatly in June/July.
You won't have many options til then. I would suggest Japan for a month but you'd burn through your budget faster.
Temperatures will drop! Find a fridge / air con location to work from.
Iceland, Patagonia or Southern New Zealand...Never going to get heat waves in those places. May need to live in a tent, as all but Patagonia could be expensive.
Your budget would be a bit tighter but there are parts of Europe where 6 months for $10K is relatively comfortable especially if you cook for yourself. Balkan countries or Romania are cheapest at the moment.
Bansko in Bulgaria where our Festival is has many apartment rentals starting about $250 a month for something that is decent & shorter leases are very easy - the balance of mountains & Mediterranean climate makes it just about perfect especially for the summer months. Given the size of the DN eco-system, there are plenty of people around who understand what you're going through & help each other grow their businesses.
You shouldn't underestimate the value of the local communities. Being alone in a cheap place can be very isolating. The reason places like Chiang Mai, Bali (not really so cheap now) & Da Nang have become particularly popular is community. Many other places in SEA are similar prices or cheaper but you're basically on your own.
Cambodia has crappy internet and with 10k you should be able to live there a few years easily. Why not to just enjoy the next 2 years in room with AC and forget the business?
you start to see why hot parts of the world aren't particularly rich/productive, it's just hard to do anything, imagine pre-ac. personally i love heat but in this part of the world maybe look at "hill station" type places where the locals/colonials went during hot times of the year -- cameron highlands in malaysia, there's similar places in india, thailand would be the north in chiang mai/chiang rai (but check the air, during burning season it's awful) if you want to be in south east asia you'd want to be somewhere near the water or in the mountains
You can do several things, but first let me tell you some good news: your body will get used to it after a while. At least to some extent.
Now what I would do:
First: Research the climate in Cambodia around the year. Are you going through the hottest months? Is there a historic hearwave? And most importantly, is humidity at its peak? These things follow a predictable pattern and you might happen to be in the worst months. The most important factor in sweltering heat is actually humidity, where the worst levels are actually called “Miserable” in climatological terms. If you are living in miserable mugginess and it will continue year round, then I feel you and you should adjust your environment. But I doubt it, I have been to Cambodia and it is hot but not too bad. It’ll get better.
Second: Get AC. Humidity is not too bad if it is cooler, the miserable stage happens when the combination of heat and humidity causes something called Dew Point to be lower than the temperature. Drop the temperature below the Dew Point and you’ll be comfy. And seriously though, you won’t be able to work with miserable mugginess so the cost of the AC will repay itself in productivity.
Third: Last option is to move to higher ground. The muggiest and hottest places are closest to sea level. Cambodia is pretty flat but there are places with higher elevations. Otherwise I would recommend moving to Northern Vietnam, Northern Thailand, Laos, or consider the Philippines and Indonesia. Both are fantastic places and almost as cheap as Cambodia. Vietnam is booming with good talent to leverage, and the Philippines is full of english speakers who are extremely nice, and it is very cheap and an absolute paradise.
Records temps man, just ride it out. Also, believe it or not, but your body will eventually adjust and it won't feel so horrible. It will still be hot, but it won't be unbearable sickeningly hot to you. Source: Lived in Texas.
The heat should become a motivating factor, not something to escape.
It's pretty rare that you can start an online business without also being able to make a living consulting in the same field. Work towards cash flow, not making a home run. Once you have some income, justify modest investments in your working conditions.
I by no means know SEA comprehensively, but some random thoughts are:
1) Bali. It's usually surprisingly moderate in the summer months, although with the current heat wave I'm not 100% sure how that's being affected.
2) Malaysia is supposedly not getting it as bad as Vietnam/Thailand/Cambodia. So in addition to the usual suspects of KL and Penang, you might even try Genting Highlands or Cameron Highlands if you don't need a big population. Will be much cooler up there. English should be serviceable in these areas.
3) Philippines beach areas? Plenty of them, and the ocean should help keep things a little in check.
What online business are you starting?
I’m currently working a remote job in a foreign country, yet I absolutely despise it, and am eager to earn money on my own terms by starting an online business. I have a similar amount of savings to you and have been toying with the idea of taking a risk by quitting and living frugally off my savings while building something of my own.
It will somewhat better soon. I have been living in Vientiane Laos for 10 years and the last week was the hottest week ever. Now the rain is coming and cooling down. 30-35 C / 85-95 F is tolerable.
Since your in Cambodia, I'd reccommend just flying over to Vietnam. You can cool off in Da Lat. It's a haven in the mountains and you can fly right in. If you didn't like Da Lat you can go to Da Nang or Na Trang by the beach. If you're a USA citizen you can get a 3 month visa online.
Can you really live 6 months in Cambodia with only 10k? Does that means the accommodation won’t have A/C?
Argetina will be in Winter now, that could be a option. According to Numbeo, except restaurant prices everything is cheaper in Buenos Aires than Phnom Penh. Also how do you know in 6 months the business will already be profitable?
Man, just stay in your place. Get a nice place and work, at night you go out to eat some stuff. Welcome to Asia. I generally don’t do much outside during the day all year round
You arrived at the worst time for heat. I also made the move in May some years ago. The locals were like, "Don't worry, this is the worst of it." July/Auguest, it will start to cool down a little more.
That said, if the heat is the worst thing in Cambodia for you, you'll be just fine. For me it was the abhorrent pollution and noise. Plus the treatment of animals wasn't great.
If you're seriously trying to pick a place based solely on temperature (which changes throughout the year!), I don't know what to say. Start focusing on your business, and forget the weather outside. Every place I ever saw, EVER, in Cambodia had A/C. Run the A/C, and move on.
It will be quite a bit cooler in Indonesia this time of year - it’s mostly under the equator and so is the end of wet season and heading towards their ‘winter’.
Lombok or Java might suit. If you want mild temps lake toba or Bukittingi in Sumatra are both 1000m+ elevation. It’s the elevation you want, knocks out the humidity.
Best thing my parents ever did was havus move to the dessert when I was 5 at first I missed the snow but soon I was hiking in 50 degree Celsius 122 ferinhight. Prepared me for global warming. I love the heat of Thailand and Cambodia.
Just try for 30 days no Aircon sleep during the day if that helps but basically try to acumate once you are you will be unstoppable
You will get used to it. Push through. Contrary to most I actually think you shouldn’t get AC. Your body won’t acclimate as fast to the heat. Treat this as one of the many many many challenges you will have to overcome and show resilience towards in the journey of starting a business. It’s not easy in any respect.
I am in Dagupan, about 200kms north of Manila…38c every day and when I got in the car to drive to the market about lunchtime yesterday the speedometer thermometer said 49c..:-)
The weather in Hanoi has been very pleasant for the 2nd half of this week, temps in the upper twenties. Though the beginning of the week was as hot as hell
It's normally not this hot in Cambodia. I've lived here for almost 5 years and the heat is insane this year. Rain should be coming soon, so maybe we'll get a break from the heat.
Nairobi, Kenya. Good internet, fairly LCOL, fairly safe, friendly people, lots of things or places to see during the weekends/holidays, national park in the city, mild climate (almost always 24 degrees Celsius in the capital, Nairobi.
Kenya. Good internet, fairly LCOL, fairly safe, friendly people, lots of things or places to see during the weekends/holidays, national park in the capital city, mild climate (almost always 24 degrees Celsius in the capital, Nairobi. The capital is located at 1795 m altitude, so low humidity.
Depends on what you enjoy. You can stay in the capital, Nairobi if you want a fast life and all that comes with big city life. You can go to Diani, Malindi or Mombasa if you want the beach, white sandy beaches, warm Indian ocean. You can stay in Eldoret if you want to train for a marathon. Nakuru, and Naivasha are in the rift valley, enjoy beautiful nature, including flamingoes. You can head to the slopes of the 2nd tallest mountain in Africa (towns of Nanyuki or Meru) if you want high altitude. If you live in any of these towns you will be less than an hours flight from the capital, or few hours drive to the capital.
Numbeo cost of living imo is very accurate for planning living costs. Look closely at rent costs and restaurant meal prices. Cooking and cleaning take up time and if you’re an entrepreneur you ideally want to skip those.
Places with bad infrastructure eg WiFi are also more trouble than they are worth. Low water/sanitation index means a higher risk of weird viruses in your food and then downtime from being sick (eg Kenya, India).
SEAsia gives you the best bang for your buck imo compared to anywhere else in the world. The heat wave is only 1-2 months.
Kuala Lumpur is a great spot for frugal living - great infrastructure and food, Bangkok and Chiang Mai are as well. I think there are big cities in China that also have very low cost of living but solid housing and infrastructure (eg $300 monthly rent, luxury studio).
I’m also an entrepreneur and have lived all over the world at this point: Europe, Middle East, latam, Africa, and asia. Asia was the best imo, for saving money and not being horribly distracting with food borne viruses or bad WiFi. Also less petty crime overall, so you can worry less about your laptop being stolen at a cafe.
Namche Bazar in Nepal is on the Everest trail. Big town with lots of tourists. 4000m altitude and temperature ranging from 12 degrees high to zero degrees low. They had a bit of snow today.
Not sure why you'd go to Cambodia of all places, I know it's marginally cheaper but not at all worth it in my opinion. Go to Thailand, Chiang Mai is super cheap, or vietnam
Uninhabitable by soft, whiny babies maybe.
You're smoking meth if you think real people living in frontline communities are going to be able to do anything about it.
Apparently there is a historic heat wave in SE Asia right now. No escape anywhere. I arrived in Bangkok a week ago and it’s been 38C every day 😭
Yeah I'm in da Nang and it's a bit warm right now. I think it's dropping to about 35 degrees next week and it feels weird to be looking forward to 35.
I left Bangkok in early March to go back to Vietnam specifically Da Nang to get away from the heat, it was mid 30s in Bangkok at the time but real feel temp was like 41-43 Then by the time I was leaving Da Nang a few weeks into April it was about the same some days. I got to Malaysia and it's been even hotter some days. I worry for the people of South East Asia what it will be like in a few decades.
Agreed on the worry
Where are you now ?
Kuala Lumpur, even though April is meant to be the wettest month it's been quite sunny earlier in the day. Some days it's barely rained at all.
I’m in Bangkok now. 38C during the day. Don’t know what real temp feel is. 😭
38c but will feel like 47c, which is wild. 1 degree warmer tomorrow too.
God help us
The Google weather app will tell you the "feels like" / heat index temp in addition to the actual temp.
i'm in nha trang i'm just fine with the aircon. It's hot outside, but also not insanely hot I'm from spain so I'm used to summers with absurd levels of heat
Here I am in Canada thinking that 21 degrees was warm today
While I was out with t-shirt and shorts while it was 17 degrees in London, UK.
yeah i saw the alert is until May 8th but even after that date the prediction are still superior to 35...
Da Lat is staying below 30, while everywhere else is hovering near 40... I should have gone to Da Lat!
Da Lat is the best.
interesting, i'll have a look
+1 its crazy in Manila. Find a town with elevation: Chiang Mai, Dalat, Cameron Highlands, Baguio
Chiang Mai has been 40+ every day for about a week now.
But it's been at least -5° vs Bangkok, right? (in "heat index" degrees)
Yeah any SEA is fine just get higher altitude.
Best plan. Not everywhere in sea is hot. Most DNs probably locked into their monthly rentals though.
I came two weeks ago form BKK to Manila and was so happy with the temperature. BKK was 38° feels like 47° in my weather app. In Manila it was more like 38° feels like 38°😂
In cebu. Its hoooooot and humid
I am on the neighbour island Bohol. A relaxed 32° degree and partly cloudy the last few days. That's not too bad. I was a week ago in Manila and before that in BKK. This was much worse!
Options do exist outside of SE Asia, so there is definitely some escape.
I’m in the Philippines and it’s hot as balls. Try to get inland to some mountain area where the elevation will make it cooler.
YES! currently in the Philippines and the highest heat index even reached 50C! It’s crazy, just buy a very very good AC and you’re good.
Just move to an air conditioned place and suck it up. Your $10K will get eaten up too fast with way too many changes otherwise. Once you start making money then move.
Air conditioning is an amazing invention. Couldn't live without it.
Willis Carrier was by far, America's Greatest Inventor. He doesn't get the credit he deserves.
You could though, you're just used to not needing to and never get acclimatised
Please trust me that everyone in SE Asia would have air conditioning if they could. People aren’t “acclimatised” they are simply poor.
Would be brutal in this part of the world
When I stay in hot places I refuse to turn off the AC when I leave because when you come back the apartment takes so long to cool down.
Super selfish to run an AC machine for hours for like 3-4 minutes of discomfort..
This is the best advice probably.
im suffering with this now. cant find good accomodations.
Yeah i think i should do that even though i hate that place (siem reap)
Cambodia is the worst country in SEA and food tends to cost higher than other surrounding countries. Why did you pick a city you hate?
Would have been influenced by a YouTuber saying how amazingly wonderful it is for the clicks. On that kind of budget it’s difficult to do a reconnaissance mission. You’ve just got to jump and hope. He’s actually in one of the best countries for what he is trying to achieve. Super low cost of living. He would have to spend a whole lot more in Thailand for example and maybe not be able to stay for as long. Gotta take your hat off to the guy. He’s probably figured correctly that he doesn’t wanna work 40 years in a cubicle to never be able to afford a house and retire broke. So he grabbed hold of his nutsack and took the plunge. Has he got what it takes though? If he’s asking for advice on reddit based on how tough the start of the journey is to becoming self reliant… well probably not. He’s gonna have to go back home and do some serious self hating for few more years before he commits. Or decides being a wage slave is a hell of a lot easier. I hope you’re reading this OP. Put your big boy pants on and don’t leave that shitty room with the loud air conditioner until you get it done. And make sure you leave enough money in the tin to get your arse back home. PS. If you knew the journey I had to take you would think it was a horror movie by comparison. Nobody said it was gonna be easy or glamorous. Thats the price of freedom. Choose now. In or out. And commit either way. Don’t flip flop.
Well said mate
Ta
Thanks for the support, it is just that i was expecting 30-35 degres but now its 46 degres (feels like google temp) since i have been here of course during the day i just have to go to a office with ac. But when at the appartement AC is too expensive so we put it only from 10pm until 9 am. I have bad sleep and heat make everything i usually like doing hating it. Like working on the computer outside, going to the restaurant at noon and night , motorcycling / having a walk, boxing, gym etc but yeah i have enough to come back to europe anyway in case shit goes wrong,
>Cambodia is the worst country in SEA This is true if you've only visited like the 5 most popular countries in SEA. Cambodia is far nicer than Burma. And tbh I'd sooner return to Cambodia over the Philippines having spent months in both countries.
Why is that? I would have figured Philippines would be far more preferred to Cambodia. But it’s been decades since I’ve been to Philippines and years since I’ve been to Cambodia. Interested in hearing your reasoning and feedback.
OK, well, there are 11 SEA countries and nobody is living in Brunei, Timor-Leste, and only few are attempting Myanmar. Cambodia is the worst country out of the remaining 8 countries, IMO. At least the Philippines has good beaches and better food (although, the food isn’t that great in the Philippines either, IMO)
the idea was to come visit my friend and be hosted by him the first month and rent a place for me if i like the place but i really hate 41 degres all day
Check the temperature before you book flights
temp doesn’t really tell the whole story, humidity and stuff plays a huge role too
Temperature shows 38C. That tells the story.
To be fair, I flew from BKK to Manila and both showed 38° degree but BKK felt soo much hotter.
You are definitely a dad!!!
It's funny watching people on this sub realize why cheap destinations are cheap.
they're cheap because average income is very low
There is a very clear and substantial correlation between countries with high average temperatures and countries with low average income.
like in Singapore?
Congratulations you've foiled the work of economists who have studied this correlation for decades 🎊 Why didn't they think of Singapore smh
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Umm.. it's the economy, not the weather.
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Exactly, great economy, but still dirt cheap for the expats.
What a strange comment. Nothing to do with the heat.
What a ludicrous thing to say. The fact that Siem Reap is cheaper than Nashville doesn’t mean Nashville is better lol.
Bro what lol.
The amount of people upvoting your comment makes me seriously concerned for the average IQ of this sub
Uh, what?
Uzbekistan is cheap and still cold.
lol, pretty basic facts
Was joining a friend actually but yeah i will next time 🤣
Inside your accommodation with the AC on.
Where you should be to be working on your business anyway.
Give it a week or two. It's going to cool down. Thunder storms all over northeast Thailand today, it'll be over in Cambodia in no time.
go to the mountains
You are in the hottest period of the year. April and early may are the hottest. It'll start to cool down once the rains start.
People here are suggesting AC (and they're right; turn on your AC!). Also consider changing your wardrobe - wear thin cotton or linen clothes. And drink plenty of water. It will take you a couple of weeks to acclimate, but it's very doable. Have you stocked up on mosquito repellent? Dengue season is coming up.
Isn't that the truth... I acclimated too well and now I'm sitting here with long pants and long sleeves and still freezing even though it's 25degrees
I made 5k last in Colombia in the same frame. I was more frugal, stayed in hostels, and cooked most of my meals.
Floridian here. While it’s definitely not Cambodia, our solution for beating the heat is finding a regular spot for a swim.
I went to cambodia when there wasn't a heatwave and it was still way too hot. It became difficult to think properly if I was in the sun for any longer than a couple of minutes. It felt wayy hotter than Vietnam, even though it was only a couple of degrees in difference. Would definitely recommend Da Lat as a place to go. Incredibly beautiful, with a warm and temperate mountain climate. Sapa would be another choice for similar reasons, though I've personally never been there.
You keep asking people about weather and cost of living. If you’re going to run an online business you should have the skills to look that stuff up. Like what you should have done in Cambodia before coming: Google “average temperature by month in Cambodia”
 just go north
lol what? Your apartment has no A/C???
People are obsessed with cosplaying poverty
Nairobi, Kigali, any mid sized city in Mexico in the mountains, Guatemala Antigua or quetzaltenango, Colombia Medellin or Pereira or Manizales, - all cities/places with warm but not hot weather. Don't know places in S.E Asia. Costa Rica San Jose,
I was about to suggest nairobi or kigali, btw til i scrolled down to your comment.
That’s such a trip; will have to check these spots out I’ve never been to Africa
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That’s so epic!!! It’s still a very foreign concept to me being all the way out there but I’m very curious now
Where in Cambodia are you? If you're inland at Phnom Penh/Siem Reap it's going to be roasting for the next 6 months at least. The coastal regions will still be cool around this time of year, so you could hop a short flight down to Sihanoukville/Kep, or over to the border to Bangkok/Hanoi. Bear in mind the hurricane season is starting.
Hanoi might be a bit more tolerable but still quite hot in summer
Come to Ukraine. It's not hot here. We got some bombings here and there but other than that the weather is fine :)
Which city?
Any city is good. But I recommend Kharkiv or Odessa.
That's where the bombing is.
Yup) Like I said, we do get some bombings)) but the weather is good and the city is nice.
How did you not expect the heat? Not sure you have the instincts needed to run your own business
SE Asia is almost always hot as hell but will improve greatly in June/July. You won't have many options til then. I would suggest Japan for a month but you'd burn through your budget faster.
Temperatures will drop! Find a fridge / air con location to work from. Iceland, Patagonia or Southern New Zealand...Never going to get heat waves in those places. May need to live in a tent, as all but Patagonia could be expensive.
There was a heatwave in southern NZ at the start of the year…
Yikes!
Start the first ice bar slash brothel. ICE HOES UNLIMITED!
Your budget would be a bit tighter but there are parts of Europe where 6 months for $10K is relatively comfortable especially if you cook for yourself. Balkan countries or Romania are cheapest at the moment. Bansko in Bulgaria where our Festival is has many apartment rentals starting about $250 a month for something that is decent & shorter leases are very easy - the balance of mountains & Mediterranean climate makes it just about perfect especially for the summer months. Given the size of the DN eco-system, there are plenty of people around who understand what you're going through & help each other grow their businesses. You shouldn't underestimate the value of the local communities. Being alone in a cheap place can be very isolating. The reason places like Chiang Mai, Bali (not really so cheap now) & Da Nang have become particularly popular is community. Many other places in SEA are similar prices or cheaper but you're basically on your own.
Go to Argentina
Maybe get an airconditioning?
Cambodia has crappy internet and with 10k you should be able to live there a few years easily. Why not to just enjoy the next 2 years in room with AC and forget the business?
Cambodia doesn't universally have 'crappy internet' that's a way over generalization
A few years? Not even close dude. A decent apartment is $600 per month. You will spend a minimum of $1100 per month frugally.
I have a 3 floor new house for $300 a month in Siem Reap. $10K will last a long time in Siem Reap. You def could make it over a year on $10K.
April/May is the hottest time - it’s unbearable but gets better
You've gone at exactly the wrong time of year.
45 degrees everywhere in India now.
You didn't know that Cambodia was a hot country? WOW!
What kind of online business are you planning to set up? Depends on the amount of funds needed and how long it takes to get things going.
Is this actually an entire post about how to beat the heat? I’m just surprised is all.
https://nomadlist.com/ filter on temp.
you start to see why hot parts of the world aren't particularly rich/productive, it's just hard to do anything, imagine pre-ac. personally i love heat but in this part of the world maybe look at "hill station" type places where the locals/colonials went during hot times of the year -- cameron highlands in malaysia, there's similar places in india, thailand would be the north in chiang mai/chiang rai (but check the air, during burning season it's awful) if you want to be in south east asia you'd want to be somewhere near the water or in the mountains
And you better like the culture So so much for cheap living the trade isn't that pleasant
You can do several things, but first let me tell you some good news: your body will get used to it after a while. At least to some extent. Now what I would do: First: Research the climate in Cambodia around the year. Are you going through the hottest months? Is there a historic hearwave? And most importantly, is humidity at its peak? These things follow a predictable pattern and you might happen to be in the worst months. The most important factor in sweltering heat is actually humidity, where the worst levels are actually called “Miserable” in climatological terms. If you are living in miserable mugginess and it will continue year round, then I feel you and you should adjust your environment. But I doubt it, I have been to Cambodia and it is hot but not too bad. It’ll get better. Second: Get AC. Humidity is not too bad if it is cooler, the miserable stage happens when the combination of heat and humidity causes something called Dew Point to be lower than the temperature. Drop the temperature below the Dew Point and you’ll be comfy. And seriously though, you won’t be able to work with miserable mugginess so the cost of the AC will repay itself in productivity. Third: Last option is to move to higher ground. The muggiest and hottest places are closest to sea level. Cambodia is pretty flat but there are places with higher elevations. Otherwise I would recommend moving to Northern Vietnam, Northern Thailand, Laos, or consider the Philippines and Indonesia. Both are fantastic places and almost as cheap as Cambodia. Vietnam is booming with good talent to leverage, and the Philippines is full of english speakers who are extremely nice, and it is very cheap and an absolute paradise.
Records temps man, just ride it out. Also, believe it or not, but your body will eventually adjust and it won't feel so horrible. It will still be hot, but it won't be unbearable sickeningly hot to you. Source: Lived in Texas.
The heat should become a motivating factor, not something to escape. It's pretty rare that you can start an online business without also being able to make a living consulting in the same field. Work towards cash flow, not making a home run. Once you have some income, justify modest investments in your working conditions.
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would be perfect, how is the cost of living there compared to siem reap ?
Cost of living in Dalat will be lower.
fine thanks
I by no means know SEA comprehensively, but some random thoughts are: 1) Bali. It's usually surprisingly moderate in the summer months, although with the current heat wave I'm not 100% sure how that's being affected. 2) Malaysia is supposedly not getting it as bad as Vietnam/Thailand/Cambodia. So in addition to the usual suspects of KL and Penang, you might even try Genting Highlands or Cameron Highlands if you don't need a big population. Will be much cooler up there. English should be serviceable in these areas. 3) Philippines beach areas? Plenty of them, and the ocean should help keep things a little in check.
What online business are you starting? I’m currently working a remote job in a foreign country, yet I absolutely despise it, and am eager to earn money on my own terms by starting an online business. I have a similar amount of savings to you and have been toying with the idea of taking a risk by quitting and living frugally off my savings while building something of my own.
What kind of remote job?
Armenia is great this time of year. In [Gyumri](https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Gyumri) you'll have no problem with the heat any time of the year.
It will somewhat better soon. I have been living in Vientiane Laos for 10 years and the last week was the hottest week ever. Now the rain is coming and cooling down. 30-35 C / 85-95 F is tolerable.
April is the hottest month. Don’t let it bias your opinion. Just wait til Mid-May at least.
ok we'll hope it cool down a bit but that is not what i'm seeing on forecasts
how bad is it? any AC help?
Come to România habibi.
Since your in Cambodia, I'd reccommend just flying over to Vietnam. You can cool off in Da Lat. It's a haven in the mountains and you can fly right in. If you didn't like Da Lat you can go to Da Nang or Na Trang by the beach. If you're a USA citizen you can get a 3 month visa online.
Go for mountain regions. Every country has mountains with considerably low temperature and tourist culture with good cafes and internet
do you have aircon in your apartment?
Can you really live 6 months in Cambodia with only 10k? Does that means the accommodation won’t have A/C? Argetina will be in Winter now, that could be a option. According to Numbeo, except restaurant prices everything is cheaper in Buenos Aires than Phnom Penh. Also how do you know in 6 months the business will already be profitable?
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Maybe east Asia, Taiwan, Korea. Cameron Highlands in Malaysia gets nice and fresh.
Latin America is both cooler and cheaper, significantly so. Otherwise there’s always the Himalayas. Look for the nearest Sherpa!
Man, just stay in your place. Get a nice place and work, at night you go out to eat some stuff. Welcome to Asia. I generally don’t do much outside during the day all year round
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Hi. Are you American? I had a DMA and lived abroad. I have some excellent destinations in Europe if you are interested.
DMA?
Digital Marketing Agency
Malaysia - Penang - Air Conditioned coworking
You arrived at the worst time for heat. I also made the move in May some years ago. The locals were like, "Don't worry, this is the worst of it." July/Auguest, it will start to cool down a little more. That said, if the heat is the worst thing in Cambodia for you, you'll be just fine. For me it was the abhorrent pollution and noise. Plus the treatment of animals wasn't great. If you're seriously trying to pick a place based solely on temperature (which changes throughout the year!), I don't know what to say. Start focusing on your business, and forget the weather outside. Every place I ever saw, EVER, in Cambodia had A/C. Run the A/C, and move on.
Are you going outside during the day? Don't do that.
Perhaps north Cambodia is cooler ?
Siem Reap is fairly far north already. Places north of Siem Reap are going to be further inland.
I live in Colombia which always has a ton of different climates. Desert to snow, beach to jungle, anything you want
It will be quite a bit cooler in Indonesia this time of year - it’s mostly under the equator and so is the end of wet season and heading towards their ‘winter’. Lombok or Java might suit. If you want mild temps lake toba or Bukittingi in Sumatra are both 1000m+ elevation. It’s the elevation you want, knocks out the humidity.
Best thing my parents ever did was havus move to the dessert when I was 5 at first I missed the snow but soon I was hiking in 50 degree Celsius 122 ferinhight. Prepared me for global warming. I love the heat of Thailand and Cambodia. Just try for 30 days no Aircon sleep during the day if that helps but basically try to acumate once you are you will be unstoppable
You will get used to it. Push through. Contrary to most I actually think you shouldn’t get AC. Your body won’t acclimate as fast to the heat. Treat this as one of the many many many challenges you will have to overcome and show resilience towards in the journey of starting a business. It’s not easy in any respect.
No one gets used to 40°C in high humidity. Guess why all the locals that aren't dirt poor live in AC apartments/houses?
I am in Dagupan, about 200kms north of Manila…38c every day and when I got in the car to drive to the market about lunchtime yesterday the speedometer thermometer said 49c..:-)
I would try to make a profit and stay where you are. Once you are earning $4k per month you have more options.
Arrived in Ubud a few days ago from Vietnam. Feels much cooler here. Humidity doesn’t seem too bad either.
Stay in Cambodia just find somewhere higher altitude.
What’s your online business?
Allegedly the rainy season starts soon and that’s when it cools down. At least that what the locals were telling me.
The weather in Hanoi has been very pleasant for the 2nd half of this week, temps in the upper twenties. Though the beginning of the week was as hot as hell
Take a bus to Chiang Mai then take another one to Pai. Low 30s and less smokey in Pai. And mountain air at night is good for the soul.
Do you not have ac? You'll burn up more of your savings/capital moving around
It's normally not this hot in Cambodia. I've lived here for almost 5 years and the heat is insane this year. Rain should be coming soon, so maybe we'll get a break from the heat.
It getting better. We got rain last night.
Come to the Philippines. I am in Bohol, it's 32° and partially cloudy. Easy to bear compared to what I had in BKK two weeks ago.
Nairobi, Kenya. Good internet, fairly LCOL, fairly safe, friendly people, lots of things or places to see during the weekends/holidays, national park in the city, mild climate (almost always 24 degrees Celsius in the capital, Nairobi.
Kenya. Good internet, fairly LCOL, fairly safe, friendly people, lots of things or places to see during the weekends/holidays, national park in the capital city, mild climate (almost always 24 degrees Celsius in the capital, Nairobi. The capital is located at 1795 m altitude, so low humidity. Depends on what you enjoy. You can stay in the capital, Nairobi if you want a fast life and all that comes with big city life. You can go to Diani, Malindi or Mombasa if you want the beach, white sandy beaches, warm Indian ocean. You can stay in Eldoret if you want to train for a marathon. Nakuru, and Naivasha are in the rift valley, enjoy beautiful nature, including flamingoes. You can head to the slopes of the 2nd tallest mountain in Africa (towns of Nanyuki or Meru) if you want high altitude. If you live in any of these towns you will be less than an hours flight from the capital, or few hours drive to the capital.
You moved to a tropical country in the hottest time of year Not sure what advice to give you, but I wish you luck
whats ur online business?
Numbeo cost of living imo is very accurate for planning living costs. Look closely at rent costs and restaurant meal prices. Cooking and cleaning take up time and if you’re an entrepreneur you ideally want to skip those. Places with bad infrastructure eg WiFi are also more trouble than they are worth. Low water/sanitation index means a higher risk of weird viruses in your food and then downtime from being sick (eg Kenya, India). SEAsia gives you the best bang for your buck imo compared to anywhere else in the world. The heat wave is only 1-2 months. Kuala Lumpur is a great spot for frugal living - great infrastructure and food, Bangkok and Chiang Mai are as well. I think there are big cities in China that also have very low cost of living but solid housing and infrastructure (eg $300 monthly rent, luxury studio).
I’m also an entrepreneur and have lived all over the world at this point: Europe, Middle East, latam, Africa, and asia. Asia was the best imo, for saving money and not being horribly distracting with food borne viruses or bad WiFi. Also less petty crime overall, so you can worry less about your laptop being stolen at a cafe.
So you moved somewhere without ever being there before? And for some reason didn't realize it was hot af in mainland sea?
I’m in Hanoi currently and might have heat stroke. No joke
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You are trying to "kickstart your business". Stay in your apartment with the A/C turned on and do some work, duh.
Try an sit conditioned space in the Philippines I love it personally and professionally !
Sounds like you should invest that 10k in some AC
Namche Bazar in Nepal is on the Everest trail. Big town with lots of tourists. 4000m altitude and temperature ranging from 12 degrees high to zero degrees low. They had a bit of snow today.
Not sure why you'd go to Cambodia of all places, I know it's marginally cheaper but not at all worth it in my opinion. Go to Thailand, Chiang Mai is super cheap, or vietnam
Cambodia is vastly superior to Thailand in almost every way.
You could have just said that you prefer Cambodia.
where ?
I can't think of a single way it's superior other than being cheaper but I'm open to hearing about it
heavily depends on your citizenship, duh
Go to Sinoukville.
Whats an ‘online business’? Sounds very vague
Do to heat and climate change Cambodia will be mostly uninhabitable within the next 10 years or less. So make sure you have an exit plan.
Uninhabitable by soft, whiny babies maybe. You're smoking meth if you think real people living in frontline communities are going to be able to do anything about it.
Exactly
LOL hahaha ... do people seriously believe BS like this????