The 'most likely manager' seems to change everyday. Right now we are at Tuchel staying, I imagine by tomorrow the Ten Hag rumours will become stronger.
Tbh, the third goalkeeper spot is basically irrelevant - but I'd still be more comfortable having Trapp in the squad though I think Alex has had a good season. Better him than Leno though.
Just saw Müller’s Instagram post and from the caption you can figure out that the team is only focused on Real Madrid and they didn’t care enough about today’s game. Well I am hoping for a strong performance on Wednesday!
Kinda like how Dortmund wet the bed against Leipzig but still beat PSG
They're doing their part for a 2013 champions league final rematch. I'm hoping we do ours
Not going to read too much into the game. It’s been a very long and tiring season and the team that wanted it more got the deserved win today.
We couldn’t afford to want it any more than we did. Granted I would have liked to see a little bit more from the players that haven’t featured as often this season and shouldn’t be starting on Wednesday. Overall - not many positives to draw on other than Dier is a stud. We go again on Wednesday!
We need to clear house come summer though.
Potential final with Dortmund has a fantastic script so far:
Reus winning his first ever CL in his final season with Dortmund v Kane winning his first ever trophy in his Debut season.
A big positive from today - Dier. The guy is a fucking beast, I'm actually loving him here.
And I am one of the dickheads who scoffed at him starting some weeks ago.
So he can give us the Goretzka Kimmich midfield? And demand again that we sign all his midtable quality player ideas and then throw a fit when we don’t? I like Flick as a coach, but no thanks
To be clear, I'm not making an argument in favor of ten Hag here (the arguments against him make themselves). I'm making one against Poch. "Did the bare minimum" (which is debatable because he lost his job after one and a half seasons) and "didn't do any extra damage" is not a thrilling endorsement for further consideration at a club like Bayern.
Our strategy for finding our new coach should be anything but "Wait and see if Chelsea sacks him after 1 season."
just thinking about our line-up from today. Tel obviously is not comfortable at all on the right. His best games for us were on the left or more central. Gnabry played on the right multiple times, Choupo is comfortable on the left aswell. You obiously have to match up to the opposing players though so idk, but Tel just doesn't get going on the right at all.
Tel offers the drive to go for the goal which is easier from the right as he can cut inside and shoot from afar which he does more often than other players. From the right it's more difficult
Wednesday more probably than not I will feel really sad. Nothing more to play for and obviously the team doesnt put effort in anyways any more. Then we will lose davies which also will feel like shit although he has had a major form dip…
Speaking of Girona, if we wanna experiment in the coaching position, why not pick their coach Michel? IIRC Pep's brother said something to the extent of if Michel wanted to go to Bayern, he'd take him to Munich himself.
I was wondering about it also. They might finish second in the league and play attractive football. Certainly it isn't smaller accomplishment than what seb, de zerbi or motta did
Man I just read that Georg Koch at age 52 is suffering from terminal pancreatic cancer with no treatments available to save his life. I know this exposes me as an old man by internet standards, but even though he didn't play for Bayern I still remember him playing Bundesliga in the early 2000s.
This makes me sad, cancer is a shit way to go.
okay hypothetical: how do you rate this season if we stumble our way to CL glory? I honestly don't know, winning the CL would paper over the cracks, but at the same time it's the damn CL no less
As long as we don't do a Barca post 2015 we should be fine.
Barca won in 2015 then immediately went downhill, sold their sold for a 2017 comeback against PSG and have never recovered since
It's a tough question. 10/10 the night we lift the trophy, then down to 7/10 remembering the fact we played 10 good games all season and have way too much work to do in the summer window.
3/10 if our UCL win somehow convinces Uli that the squad is fine and doesn't need any new input.
"Wir haben die Champions League mit 15 fitten Spielern gewonnen, davon waren 3 Torhüter. Was wollen die Trainer mit einem 20-Mann-Kader?"
- Uli Hoeneß in my nightmares
Personally I can forget everything else that happened if we win the CL, it will 100% take away the sour feeling and I need to see Manu and Thomas win at least one more before they retire, and Harry to prove the doubters wrong.
But in terms of actually rating the season, it’s difficult. Constantly horrible football, humiliation in the Pokal and we lost the league. It’s certainly not a 10/10 even with a CL trophy 😂
SO in can goretzka doesn't perform against Madrid we would be throwing a 20 year old with one year of first team experience in biggest game yet since rapha is injured
At least the board is not stupid enough (i hope) to continue into the next season with our current coach.
Poor Barca fans, they have to endure another season of Xavi-Terrorism.
Ten Haag did a great job with reserves. He give youngster chances to play, he knows our club and as long he isn’t in charge of recruitment it could work.
Let’s swap with United.
The way he goes on to treat difficult characters (Sancho) worries me when it comes to Sane.
I don't know how naughty Sancho was, but man some news out there were brutal.
>he isn’t in charge of recruitment
That would go south tbh. He should have a say, that's why we have an *overhaul*.
On top of that his stats:
https://preview.redd.it/qquv3s9gfgyc1.jpeg?width=2261&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05df1be4a518e759b33eefe6044e1c09fb061433
He doesn't play LB though. Only LM and CM
Wouldn't be a bad pick at all. Interesting style of play, history with Bayern and no language issues. I don't blame anyone for not succeeding at Man Utd, that club is poisoned and nothing that happens there is an indication of anything. We're suddenly talking about Lopetegui and Schmidt, so ten Hag sounds like Pep in comparison.
No one came out of Man Utd looking better. Moyes got his whole reputation destroyed until his recent success with West Ham, van Gaal retired afterwards until coming back just for the NT, Mourinho got sacked and only managed less prestigious clubs afterwards, Ole had a little good run but no one considers him a good coach and now ten Hag's reputation is slowly getting ruined despite his run with Ajax
Tbh even his first season at United was pretty good. He made some questionable statements and we definitely can't let him decide on transfers but apart from that it could work
Yep. I'm not a fan of him wanting greenwood and there was something at Ajax aswell iirc, but everyone from Tuchel to Hoeneß was about to get Boateng back into the club which isn't any better (I'm aware Tuchel probably only was ok with it because we barely needed a CB and didn't got one until Dier)
Dude, when I think Barcelona is finding some stability and leaving the meme behind, they literally do things like this. And hear me out, Araujo doesn't improve any of our CB's at anything.
We’re great friends /s
Edit: He coached Rayo Vallecano and Huesca previously, both stints ended in relegation and dismissal. Considering that, promotion and now landing a CL spot with Girona is crazy
No matter what happens on Wednesday, we will absolutely destroy Reals left side by selling Davies, this guy doesn't look like a professional footballer.
not exactly, we can always promote the youth coach who isn't doing that bad. but i really doing think that would be the best choice when you take into perspective the ucl final at home, players wating on coach appointments to see if they wanna extend contracts etc
Thomas Tuchel on Real Madrid having rotated 10 players today: "You can do that when you have enough players"
Meanwhile us with same situation with Pep
Ulle
Kimmich - Lucas Mai - Hummels - Bernat
Tolisso - Rudy - Dorsch
Shabani - Wagner - Evina
If he played only 17 year olds today nobody would have blamed him at all. I’m so sick of him.
we probably didnt want to concede goals in the double digits, if we lost 11-0 starting our youth team, people would 100% be calling it disrespectful, egoistic and would be hating on it. No winning here tbh
>[Florian Plettenberg] Brighton signs Eintracht's top doctor Prof. Dr. Florian Pfab! Brighton is even paying a transfer fee in the range of €250k. Frankfurt has been one of the teams with the fewest muscle injuries in the Bundesliga for years.
Can this club also poach someone’s doctor or something?
Would be nice to have less player injuries.
> Tuchel on the injury situation: "We had a meeting with the medical team before the game - they were like: '60 minutes for this, 30 minutes for that, 60 minutes for that, this one can't play at all'. Unfortunately, this has been the situation the whole season. Rapha Guerreiro was getting minutes to be ready for Wednesday and now he's on crutches. Eric Dier felt a bit something in his thigh before the game, but that wasn't the reason (he got subbed off) - it was due to the head knock. We couldn't take any more risks with him. We then took a risk with Upa who wasn't supposed to play for more than 30 minutes. This has unfortunately been the story of our season"
Look I too am not fond of Tuchel, but don’t the hate blinds you, it’s not an ego thing or he’s a complete idiot or first time being a coach before an important UCL match. Had Carvajal, Camavinga or Modric suffers an injury in the Cádiz match I’m sure Ancelotti wouldn’t get his head called out this much by fans
I can see Tuchel made some pretty bad mistakes throughout the season, but today he hardly had real options. I don't agree with people saying Bryan or Zvonarek should have started. They didn't start ONE and starting them v. such an intense team like Stuttgart is suicide.
It is a meaningless result in comparison to what we have on Tuesday, but not like we can just throw the towel and say "fuck this game all".
Comapring the situation with Real is not good for two key reasons: their opponent is far weaker than ours and their injury list is far shorter than ours.
So imho, Tuchel is not to be lynched for today. Yes sure some tactical tweaks here and there could have helped, but really we didn't play THAT bad when we look at the context.
Understanding we are short on personnel is important.
Yeah but our injury history is the reason why he shouldn’t have risked it. I mean we‘re extremly unlucky with injuries and that‘s not Tuchels fault, but why not just play Bryan, Zvono etc? I think people would‘ve been more understanding if we lost with a B-Team. Instead we got a mixed Team with starters, who didn‘t even bother to give 100% after they saw what happened to Rapha.
exactly, im genuinely dumbfounded by how idiotic our fanbase is being with this. You dont even need to be some genius to realise that we rotated all that we couldve, i guess the internet always was and always will be filled with reactionary morons, huh?
Because it's an unnecessary risk to play him in a meaningless game when we have the most important game of the season in a few days? We already had one scare with him last weekend.
The goal record is irrelevant to our season, if he gets it, then he gets it. We have a CL semi against Real Madrid on Wednesday, or did you forget that too?
the goal record is definitely relevant to Harry though, part of being a coach for a club like Bayern is being able to handle huge stars and their egos. If Harry was benched, not only would he be unhappy but the fans would too. There wasn't any winning from this. + a player like harry gets to decide whether he plays or not, all stars get special/preferential treatment. nothing astoundingly shocking about that.
Harry plays for the club, not for himself. Him potentially getting the goal record is a bonus not a necessity. And as a fan, I can 100% assure you I would not have been unhappy if Harry and Manu were benched today.
its about managing egos though. Sure, Harry would rather win the SF at the cost of the goal record, but it doesnt have to be one or the other, Harry is an intelligent footballer and made the calculated risk to start in order to get to the goal record, he was also pretty conservative in defense today.
for what its worth, as a fan i would be 100% fine with harry getting some rest, but if a player like harry kane says that he wants to play; he's gonna play.
No, he didn't make the calculated risk. He's not the fucking coach lol. Player power doesn't extend to whether THEY decide if they're starting or not. This is an absolute fantasy.
player power is a very real thing though, there's plenty of interviews where coaches talk about a certain player and compliment their mentality because they 'insisted' to start despite being 'rested'. A notable example is Patrice Evra with SAF.
Now if patrice evra, (whos relative importance to the united squad of the time was far less than harry kane's with ours) could 'defy' a manager who was as big a disciplinarian as SAF with the reasoning of 'i want to play'. I dont think its unrealistic to presume that Harry Kane wouldve had a chat with Tuchel and asked to start for in attempt to pursue the goal record, with the promise that he would not overextend himself, which he didnt.
3. Liga talk:
If Münster wins tomorrow this will be the *perfect* matchday for them. Taking over 2nd place with only 2 matches to go and their competitors for promotion, Regensburg, Dresden and Essen all losing their games.
brother please explain to me HOW we rotate anybody else, i genuinely do not understand this. Everybody that could have feasibly been rotated, was rotated. Cant talk about youth players because your first senior appearance being away at Stuttgart playing alongside a team of backups is a surefire way of destroying a young players confidence.
that literally just rotated the players who are already playing BECAUSE of rotation. Gnabry and Rapha needed gametime to get ready for wednesday, same for Sane.
aznou as LB would fix nothing as our starting LB will be maz, who did not start. same with fernandez as DM, Rapha needed game time and Pavlovic is a rotation option. It's also pretty short sighted to play a youth player who has had zero experience training with the first xi, has no idea about the tactics to be used, no chemistry with the rest of the team to be starting against a team like VfB at home.
Thats such a lame excuse. He had the chance to start a Zvonarek, a Zaragoza. He did the same shit vs Frankfurt where DeLigt got injured for no reason. He just does not wanna do it cause he is too stubborn.
its really not, where exactly would Zvonarek or Zaragoza play? Zvo is an AM and cannot function in a double pivot due to his defensive ineptitude, lack of stamina and physical prowess. Zaragoza idek what to say man cmon
They literally have Camavinga and Modric starting? And Brahim Diaz who’s starter level as well. Hell even Jude came in from subs. I don't see any wrong in his statement, as big as the match go, senior players who didn't play last game need to play the league game to get some rust off or show that they are ready to step in under freak situations like injury in trainings
Tbh they started carvajal, militao, nacho, fran garcia, modric, camavinga, ceballos, guler, josleu and diaz. Only nacho playeg against us. If we wanted to do exactly the same we wouldn't have a rb, upa would play as cb and he wasn't suplosed to play more than 30 min, no lb also, in midfield pavlovic and zvoranek would have to play and in attack we would have gnabry tel, choupo and zaragoza. Our depth this season has been pretty bad
Fair point, but I at least would have rested Kane and Manu - absolutely zero reason to start them here. Phonzie isn't starting against Real anway and yes, just give Zvonarek the start in midfield and we'd likely still have Rapha for Real.
The result of today was entirely inconsequential, the result on Wednesday is make or break for this season.
And somehow ends up with only 1 youth player: Arda Guler. The rest are senior La Liga quality players at least
Face it, we can’t afford to be in that position where players rather ride the bench than starting for AC Milan.
Nothing to prove in the league when it's over- players are fully focused on the champions league.
This would be the perfect time for youth as one they'll be more motivated to prove themselves for next season, low stakes since we already secured a champions league spot.
I would really like to know if there's some all time injury stats. It's genuinely insane how we seemingly can't go through 2 games without someone getting injured. Has to be breaking records.
This morning I was reading only positive stuff for Tuchel, not because he is made for us, but because he is literally the only good option, then we lose the most meaningless match and you all know how we have been playing whole season and the negativity spreads again, it’s nothing new this loss come on
>it’s nothing new this loss
Yeah that’s why he’s been sacked. The people who have been saying that decision should stand aren’t the ones who’ve been playing revisionist after a few good CL performances.
Imo the manager is not the only problem, we need rebuild, fans knows it , board probably know it too, but it’s already May, how come a new guy come in one month ( 4-th option btw ) and take adequate decisions
Even when this is pretty much a dead rubber match I'm still kinda bother about some players. Sure they'll have Madrid and most of them would be on the bench but some should show more spirit, their spot in the squad next season is not guaranteed.
Goretzka needs to be replaced at all cost. Sure, most likely he starts in UCL, but my word his ability to go complete unnoticed in the midfield out of all position is fascinating. You don't feel his presence, or even remember one action he took today. Wasn't even good against Real anyway, he better flip the switch up one last time.
Choupo isn't Bundesliga quality anymore. Should have gone with Zvonarek or some.
Davies, you know it already. Tel at RW is limiting him from showing any of his traits. Gnabry was too scared to go full sprint or get into challenge but we can forgive that.
Not only the starters, we need some improvement on the bench as well in the summer
[Bb come back](https://twitter.com/iScoutingReport/status/1786883441922887912?t=TcxLLonsHBMKMXfkzSXvPw&s=19)
Who’s the most likely manager next season?
Ten Hag prolly
The 'most likely manager' seems to change everyday. Right now we are at Tuchel staying, I imagine by tomorrow the Ten Hag rumours will become stronger.
Can we kidnap Heynckes?
jogiball
By the looks of it, Uli Hoeneß himself probably
No one knows
Wait is guerreiro injured?
Yes, he will miss the match against Madrid. Had to came of injured in the first half
on crutches
Nübel deserves to be called up for the Euros
Tbh, the third goalkeeper spot is basically irrelevant - but I'd still be more comfortable having Trapp in the squad though I think Alex has had a good season. Better him than Leno though.
Just saw Müller’s Instagram post and from the caption you can figure out that the team is only focused on Real Madrid and they didn’t care enough about today’s game. Well I am hoping for a strong performance on Wednesday!
Kinda like how Dortmund wet the bed against Leipzig but still beat PSG They're doing their part for a 2013 champions league final rematch. I'm hoping we do ours
Not going to read too much into the game. It’s been a very long and tiring season and the team that wanted it more got the deserved win today. We couldn’t afford to want it any more than we did. Granted I would have liked to see a little bit more from the players that haven’t featured as often this season and shouldn’t be starting on Wednesday. Overall - not many positives to draw on other than Dier is a stud. We go again on Wednesday! We need to clear house come summer though.
Am I crazy when I say, that I am more scared of Dortmund than PSG if we reach the finals ?
Potential final with Dortmund has a fantastic script so far: Reus winning his first ever CL in his final season with Dortmund v Kane winning his first ever trophy in his Debut season.
Yes you are crazy
I’m more scared of *ourselves*.
I'm scared of BuLi Tucheliban ball. It keeps me up at night
😂😂 well, good point
A big positive from today - Dier. The guy is a fucking beast, I'm actually loving him here. And I am one of the dickheads who scoffed at him starting some weeks ago.
Bro puts in more effort in the field than 3/4 of the squad. 💀.
Yeah he seems to have a great character.
At this point wait to see how Poch's situation with Chelsea develops. Much better than Ten Hag
How about bringing back the sextuple coach who at his worst still won the league and gave PSG a big scare?
So he can give us the Goretzka Kimmich midfield? And demand again that we sign all his midtable quality player ideas and then throw a fit when we don’t? I like Flick as a coach, but no thanks
Tuchel into Pochettino is a tragedy waiting to happen. PSG made the same mistake.
Ten Hag at United is a far bigger mistake than Poch with PSG. Poch with PSG did bare minimum required and left with 0 damage done to the club
To be clear, I'm not making an argument in favor of ten Hag here (the arguments against him make themselves). I'm making one against Poch. "Did the bare minimum" (which is debatable because he lost his job after one and a half seasons) and "didn't do any extra damage" is not a thrilling endorsement for further consideration at a club like Bayern. Our strategy for finding our new coach should be anything but "Wait and see if Chelsea sacks him after 1 season."
Sure I don't think it's an ideal situation at all but he's probably the "best of the rest" considering where we're at in the manager search
just thinking about our line-up from today. Tel obviously is not comfortable at all on the right. His best games for us were on the left or more central. Gnabry played on the right multiple times, Choupo is comfortable on the left aswell. You obiously have to match up to the opposing players though so idk, but Tel just doesn't get going on the right at all.
Tel is at his best on the LW but if we want him to become a starter, we absolutely have to sell or loan some players at that position.
Tel offers the drive to go for the goal which is easier from the right as he can cut inside and shoot from afar which he does more often than other players. From the right it's more difficult
Wednesday more probably than not I will feel really sad. Nothing more to play for and obviously the team doesnt put effort in anyways any more. Then we will lose davies which also will feel like shit although he has had a major form dip…
Beleive in tuchel
Nah we will win
Stand proud madrid. You are strong
[Gojo agrees](https://imgflip.com/i/8p05gp)
He’s definitely coming back in the next chapter /s
Let’s at least play the game first, then we can be miserable if we lose
Speaking of Girona, if we wanna experiment in the coaching position, why not pick their coach Michel? IIRC Pep's brother said something to the extent of if Michel wanted to go to Bayern, he'd take him to Munich himself.
I am far from certain that he speaks english.
That would probably be a thing that gets in the way, I don't know if he does. He's never worked outside of Spain.
I was wondering about it also. They might finish second in the league and play attractive football. Certainly it isn't smaller accomplishment than what seb, de zerbi or motta did
so Girona is not that wonderclub that came from nothing they are half owned by mancity boss????\^\^
its still a budget squad without any stars really, not even 40 million spent on transfers in the last 2 seasons so the achievement is significant imo
And their chairman is Pep's brother.
Man I just read that Georg Koch at age 52 is suffering from terminal pancreatic cancer with no treatments available to save his life. I know this exposes me as an old man by internet standards, but even though he didn't play for Bayern I still remember him playing Bundesliga in the early 2000s. This makes me sad, cancer is a shit way to go.
I remember him in Duisburg years ago mostly due to Manager games. Yeah fuck cancer
okay hypothetical: how do you rate this season if we stumble our way to CL glory? I honestly don't know, winning the CL would paper over the cracks, but at the same time it's the damn CL no less
As long as we don't do a Barca post 2015 we should be fine. Barca won in 2015 then immediately went downhill, sold their sold for a 2017 comeback against PSG and have never recovered since
10/10 cl over everything
We only won this competition 6 times to win historic 7th becoming joint second most successful club for me it’s 10.10
It's a tough question. 10/10 the night we lift the trophy, then down to 7/10 remembering the fact we played 10 good games all season and have way too much work to do in the summer window. 3/10 if our UCL win somehow convinces Uli that the squad is fine and doesn't need any new input.
if the squad wins the CL, it's obviously good enough to win all trophies Uli's logic checks out 3/10 here we come lmao
"Wir haben die Champions League mit 15 fitten Spielern gewonnen, davon waren 3 Torhüter. Was wollen die Trainer mit einem 20-Mann-Kader?" - Uli Hoeneß in my nightmares
Es können doch eh nur 11 zeitgleich spielen!
I can block the horrors we watched in the league and pokal if I watch Kane getting his first trophy at home.
ah shit I forgot that it's in Wembley
Personally I can forget everything else that happened if we win the CL, it will 100% take away the sour feeling and I need to see Manu and Thomas win at least one more before they retire, and Harry to prove the doubters wrong. But in terms of actually rating the season, it’s difficult. Constantly horrible football, humiliation in the Pokal and we lost the league. It’s certainly not a 10/10 even with a CL trophy 😂
Brother if we win the CL I'll literally not care about anything else, it would be a 9.5 in my head instantly
If the final is against Dortmund then 9/10, losing the Bundesliga was inevitable but only 9 because of the Saarbrücken incident
6.5/10
If we lose to Real ~~tomorrow~~ I'd give this season a solid 5/10. If we win the UCL, maybe a 7.5. Edit: wednesday*
Ngl I'd forget everything that happened with the league and the pokal.
I might do the same the second I see Müller, Kane, and Tel with the cup in their hands e: oh and eric
SO in can goretzka doesn't perform against Madrid we would be throwing a 20 year old with one year of first team experience in biggest game yet since rapha is injured
Pavlovic is that guy.
so? pavlovic is that dude
Yup
I would start him
At least the board is not stupid enough (i hope) to continue into the next season with our current coach. Poor Barca fans, they have to endure another season of Xavi-Terrorism.
Madrid just won la liga hope they party till Wednesday
they deserve it, we should send them lots and lots of Paulaner tbh
Thank you Ter Stegen
Ten Haag did a great job with reserves. He give youngster chances to play, he knows our club and as long he isn’t in charge of recruitment it could work. Let’s swap with United.
We really don't need another morally bancrupt person in our club.
Only two major downsides tho: no morals (supporting Overmars and wanting to include Greenwood in his squad) and bad man management
He's terrible. This United season is honestly one of the single biggest failures of any recent manager at a top club
The way he goes on to treat difficult characters (Sancho) worries me when it comes to Sane. I don't know how naughty Sancho was, but man some news out there were brutal. >he isn’t in charge of recruitment That would go south tbh. He should have a say, that's why we have an *overhaul*.
I just wish the guy had the least bit of morals
I don't follow austrian football, how's Krätzig doing?
Watch the loan Watch thread from yesterday, it includes Krätzig
Didn't know it exist, thank you my favourite mod ;)
On top of that his stats: https://preview.redd.it/qquv3s9gfgyc1.jpeg?width=2261&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05df1be4a518e759b33eefe6044e1c09fb061433 He doesn't play LB though. Only LM and CM
Anderlecht are looking at Peretz for a loan (without buy clause) this summer. Source is Belgium journalist Sacha Tavolieri.
>Erik ten Hag of interest to Bayern and Ajax. Both clubs are waiting to see if he becomes available [@JNorthcroft]
Wouldn't be a bad pick at all. Interesting style of play, history with Bayern and no language issues. I don't blame anyone for not succeeding at Man Utd, that club is poisoned and nothing that happens there is an indication of anything. We're suddenly talking about Lopetegui and Schmidt, so ten Hag sounds like Pep in comparison.
Honestly, which coach after SAF was at United kinda successful or had a good reputation?
MOURINHO
No one came out of Man Utd looking better. Moyes got his whole reputation destroyed until his recent success with West Ham, van Gaal retired afterwards until coming back just for the NT, Mourinho got sacked and only managed less prestigious clubs afterwards, Ole had a little good run but no one considers him a good coach and now ten Hag's reputation is slowly getting ruined despite his run with Ajax
United is a black hole for coaches
And players
Out of all the options he would at least be somewhat acceptable
From xabi and nagelsmann to ten hag . What's is happening to us lmao
We are/were linked to worse options
Imo best option from all the latest coaches we were linked to/that were rumoured
Tbh even his first season at United was pretty good. He made some questionable statements and we definitely can't let him decide on transfers but apart from that it could work
Yep. I'm not a fan of him wanting greenwood and there was something at Ajax aswell iirc, but everyone from Tuchel to Hoeneß was about to get Boateng back into the club which isn't any better (I'm aware Tuchel probably only was ok with it because we barely needed a CB and didn't got one until Dier)
Just Quincy Promes stabbing someone then starting a week later
loool i thought about overmars. Didn't know about promes
I come from the future, Juppel just annihilated Ancelotti 4-0 at Bernabeu... could've been a lucid dream tho
Who scored
Muller with an awkward goal first cuz that's how all thumpings start and then a cheeky Tel hatty
it was definitely a dream then
unfortunately
Gironas Michel has rejected a move to Bayern for personal reasons - it wasn't due to Bayern's offer [ @MartinVolkmar ]
Who
When are you gonna sign and become the coach 🙏
Joke Jules haha
Dude, when I think Barcelona is finding some stability and leaving the meme behind, they literally do things like this. And hear me out, Araujo doesn't improve any of our CB's at anything.
Lamine would improve us
Anyone know the Girona manager?
I just remember him as a player hahah. Classic small Spanish midfielder
We’re great friends /s Edit: He coached Rayo Vallecano and Huesca previously, both stints ended in relegation and dismissal. Considering that, promotion and now landing a CL spot with Girona is crazy
Gironas 4-2 GOLAZOOOOO I know people are saying wow look at Motta. Look what the Girona coach has done
And he plays 4231. It's destiny
First sensible thing you’ve said in a while
Just hoping that Barcelona will at least draw such that real madrid will get distracted a bit by the league win
Real's lead in La Liga is too big for it to matter
3–2 girona
Nice
No matter what happens on Wednesday, we will absolutely destroy Reals left side by selling Davies, this guy doesn't look like a professional footballer.
Curious as I’m not informed on the matter, is there anyone within the club who would be a reasonable appointment ?
not exactly, we can always promote the youth coach who isn't doing that bad. but i really doing think that would be the best choice when you take into perspective the ucl final at home, players wating on coach appointments to see if they wanna extend contracts etc
How is Buchmann still out btw? What happened with him?
Always new injuries
If Uli is suddenly on the "develop talent" train, why not go all out and promote Rene Maric? /s kinda...or maybe not...idk
At this point I would be on board for that.
Definitely would prefer this than to pay a fee for a manager who doesn’t fit us at all
Thomas Tuchel on Real Madrid having rotated 10 players today: "You can do that when you have enough players" Meanwhile us with same situation with Pep Ulle Kimmich - Lucas Mai - Hummels - Bernat Tolisso - Rudy - Dorsch Shabani - Wagner - Evina If he played only 17 year olds today nobody would have blamed him at all. I’m so sick of him.
we probably didnt want to concede goals in the double digits, if we lost 11-0 starting our youth team, people would 100% be calling it disrespectful, egoistic and would be hating on it. No winning here tbh
Damn I forgot about Sebastian Rudy, what was this transfer btw
Free transfer and he wasn't to bad at Hoffenheim. Decent squad player I would say
A Laimer kind of one. Not to insult Laimer in any sort off the way.
>[Florian Plettenberg] Brighton signs Eintracht's top doctor Prof. Dr. Florian Pfab! Brighton is even paying a transfer fee in the range of €250k. Frankfurt has been one of the teams with the fewest muscle injuries in the Bundesliga for years. Can this club also poach someone’s doctor or something? Would be nice to have less player injuries.
Would probably give us much more than 250k in value
Does anyone have a running list of all the managers we’ve been linked to?
Everyone.
Araujo just got cooked against Girona. Which means the Bayern rumors will persist as soon as the match ends
> Tuchel on the injury situation: "We had a meeting with the medical team before the game - they were like: '60 minutes for this, 30 minutes for that, 60 minutes for that, this one can't play at all'. Unfortunately, this has been the situation the whole season. Rapha Guerreiro was getting minutes to be ready for Wednesday and now he's on crutches. Eric Dier felt a bit something in his thigh before the game, but that wasn't the reason (he got subbed off) - it was due to the head knock. We couldn't take any more risks with him. We then took a risk with Upa who wasn't supposed to play for more than 30 minutes. This has unfortunately been the story of our season" Look I too am not fond of Tuchel, but don’t the hate blinds you, it’s not an ego thing or he’s a complete idiot or first time being a coach before an important UCL match. Had Carvajal, Camavinga or Modric suffers an injury in the Cádiz match I’m sure Ancelotti wouldn’t get his head called out this much by fans
I can see Tuchel made some pretty bad mistakes throughout the season, but today he hardly had real options. I don't agree with people saying Bryan or Zvonarek should have started. They didn't start ONE and starting them v. such an intense team like Stuttgart is suicide. It is a meaningless result in comparison to what we have on Tuesday, but not like we can just throw the towel and say "fuck this game all". Comapring the situation with Real is not good for two key reasons: their opponent is far weaker than ours and their injury list is far shorter than ours. So imho, Tuchel is not to be lynched for today. Yes sure some tactical tweaks here and there could have helped, but really we didn't play THAT bad when we look at the context. Understanding we are short on personnel is important.
Yes but real have still not won the league at that point. We lost our a while ago
Yeah but our injury history is the reason why he shouldn’t have risked it. I mean we‘re extremly unlucky with injuries and that‘s not Tuchels fault, but why not just play Bryan, Zvono etc? I think people would‘ve been more understanding if we lost with a B-Team. Instead we got a mixed Team with starters, who didn‘t even bother to give 100% after they saw what happened to Rapha.
exactly, im genuinely dumbfounded by how idiotic our fanbase is being with this. You dont even need to be some genius to realise that we rotated all that we couldve, i guess the internet always was and always will be filled with reactionary morons, huh?
Harry Kane played the full 90 today btw, I wonder how your unfathomable genius managed to overlook that detail.
Harry is 100% fit, why would he be benched?
Because it's an unnecessary risk to play him in a meaningless game when we have the most important game of the season in a few days? We already had one scare with him last weekend.
Oh okey, we should play the B team every game that is not a semi-final, so noone gets ACL.
If he’d rotated last weekend we would’ve won 2-0 on Tuesday. Even fucking Terzic had the brains to rotate.
Yeah because that's what I said lmfao.
How dare you
You're right, should just let Tuchel's brain men circlejerk until they tire themselves out
there was no degree of extreme intelligence required to notice that detail, process it, and realize that harry kane is gunning for the goal record.
The goal record is irrelevant to our season, if he gets it, then he gets it. We have a CL semi against Real Madrid on Wednesday, or did you forget that too?
the goal record is definitely relevant to Harry though, part of being a coach for a club like Bayern is being able to handle huge stars and their egos. If Harry was benched, not only would he be unhappy but the fans would too. There wasn't any winning from this. + a player like harry gets to decide whether he plays or not, all stars get special/preferential treatment. nothing astoundingly shocking about that.
Harry plays for the club, not for himself. Him potentially getting the goal record is a bonus not a necessity. And as a fan, I can 100% assure you I would not have been unhappy if Harry and Manu were benched today.
its about managing egos though. Sure, Harry would rather win the SF at the cost of the goal record, but it doesnt have to be one or the other, Harry is an intelligent footballer and made the calculated risk to start in order to get to the goal record, he was also pretty conservative in defense today. for what its worth, as a fan i would be 100% fine with harry getting some rest, but if a player like harry kane says that he wants to play; he's gonna play.
No, he didn't make the calculated risk. He's not the fucking coach lol. Player power doesn't extend to whether THEY decide if they're starting or not. This is an absolute fantasy.
player power is a very real thing though, there's plenty of interviews where coaches talk about a certain player and compliment their mentality because they 'insisted' to start despite being 'rested'. A notable example is Patrice Evra with SAF. Now if patrice evra, (whos relative importance to the united squad of the time was far less than harry kane's with ours) could 'defy' a manager who was as big a disciplinarian as SAF with the reasoning of 'i want to play'. I dont think its unrealistic to presume that Harry Kane wouldve had a chat with Tuchel and asked to start for in attempt to pursue the goal record, with the promise that he would not overextend himself, which he didnt.
Tuchel out here still breaking records
St. Pauli can lose de 1st spot on 2. BuLi this weekend... that loss yesterday must have hurt a lot.
The only reason Tuchel played any players today that will play vs Real is ego. For his on reputation. There is no other sports reason at all.
He literally explained yesterday why he will do it.
Excuses
🤡
It must be his ego 😭😭😭
Diabolical plan by Tucheliban
He can’t keep getting away with it
And tactical skills
3. Liga talk: If Münster wins tomorrow this will be the *perfect* matchday for them. Taking over 2nd place with only 2 matches to go and their competitors for promotion, Regensburg, Dresden and Essen all losing their games.
So typical to not rotate enough and lose a player..everytime tuchel does this
brother please explain to me HOW we rotate anybody else, i genuinely do not understand this. Everybody that could have feasibly been rotated, was rotated. Cant talk about youth players because your first senior appearance being away at Stuttgart playing alongside a team of backups is a surefire way of destroying a young players confidence.
zvonarek for chupo bryan for gnabri atleast 45 mins there is also aznou and fernandez in the b team that could play LB and DM.
Choupo literally is a rotation player lmao
Why would you rotate Gnabry and Choupo when one won't play and the other needs to get in rithym 
that literally just rotated the players who are already playing BECAUSE of rotation. Gnabry and Rapha needed gametime to get ready for wednesday, same for Sane. aznou as LB would fix nothing as our starting LB will be maz, who did not start. same with fernandez as DM, Rapha needed game time and Pavlovic is a rotation option. It's also pretty short sighted to play a youth player who has had zero experience training with the first xi, has no idea about the tactics to be used, no chemistry with the rest of the team to be starting against a team like VfB at home.
Thomas Tuchel on Real Madrid having rotated 10 players today: "You can do that when you have enough players"
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Thats such a lame excuse. He had the chance to start a Zvonarek, a Zaragoza. He did the same shit vs Frankfurt where DeLigt got injured for no reason. He just does not wanna do it cause he is too stubborn.
its really not, where exactly would Zvonarek or Zaragoza play? Zvo is an AM and cannot function in a double pivot due to his defensive ineptitude, lack of stamina and physical prowess. Zaragoza idek what to say man cmon
They literally have Camavinga and Modric starting? And Brahim Diaz who’s starter level as well. Hell even Jude came in from subs. I don't see any wrong in his statement, as big as the match go, senior players who didn't play last game need to play the league game to get some rust off or show that they are ready to step in under freak situations like injury in trainings
They did not start a single player who started against us last week.
Tbh they started carvajal, militao, nacho, fran garcia, modric, camavinga, ceballos, guler, josleu and diaz. Only nacho playeg against us. If we wanted to do exactly the same we wouldn't have a rb, upa would play as cb and he wasn't suplosed to play more than 30 min, no lb also, in midfield pavlovic and zvoranek would have to play and in attack we would have gnabry tel, choupo and zaragoza. Our depth this season has been pretty bad
Fair point, but I at least would have rested Kane and Manu - absolutely zero reason to start them here. Phonzie isn't starting against Real anway and yes, just give Zvonarek the start in midfield and we'd likely still have Rapha for Real. The result of today was entirely inconsequential, the result on Wednesday is make or break for this season.
And somehow ends up with only 1 youth player: Arda Guler. The rest are senior La Liga quality players at least Face it, we can’t afford to be in that position where players rather ride the bench than starting for AC Milan.
Not disagreeing, but with Tuchel players have to first „prove“ themselves in training before getting a shot. His philosophy is pretty meritocratic.
Nothing to prove in the league when it's over- players are fully focused on the champions league. This would be the perfect time for youth as one they'll be more motivated to prove themselves for next season, low stakes since we already secured a champions league spot.
Rapha out against Real just fucking end me
Don’t worry, Zaragoza LB will go crazy 🔥 4 goals and 2 assists
I would really like to know if there's some all time injury stats. It's genuinely insane how we seemingly can't go through 2 games without someone getting injured. Has to be breaking records.
This morning I was reading only positive stuff for Tuchel, not because he is made for us, but because he is literally the only good option, then we lose the most meaningless match and you all know how we have been playing whole season and the negativity spreads again, it’s nothing new this loss come on
>it’s nothing new this loss Yeah that’s why he’s been sacked. The people who have been saying that decision should stand aren’t the ones who’ve been playing revisionist after a few good CL performances.
Imo the manager is not the only problem, we need rebuild, fans knows it , board probably know it too, but it’s already May, how come a new guy come in one month ( 4-th option btw ) and take adequate decisions
No one said he’s the only problem.
Even when this is pretty much a dead rubber match I'm still kinda bother about some players. Sure they'll have Madrid and most of them would be on the bench but some should show more spirit, their spot in the squad next season is not guaranteed. Goretzka needs to be replaced at all cost. Sure, most likely he starts in UCL, but my word his ability to go complete unnoticed in the midfield out of all position is fascinating. You don't feel his presence, or even remember one action he took today. Wasn't even good against Real anyway, he better flip the switch up one last time. Choupo isn't Bundesliga quality anymore. Should have gone with Zvonarek or some. Davies, you know it already. Tel at RW is limiting him from showing any of his traits. Gnabry was too scared to go full sprint or get into challenge but we can forgive that. Not only the starters, we need some improvement on the bench as well in the summer