... and quite a lot of burned gunpowder fumes, and imagine amount of brass casings flying around. but then again, it would be much worse on the receiving side of things.
Holy fuck it would be chaos. The heat, smoke, noise, hot flying brass bouncing around getting stuck in every crevasse all mixed together would probably be insanely disorienting
Tommy Guns fire .45 ACP ammunition. The rate of fire for the gun is between 700-900 rounds per minute, depending on the model variation you have. The drum magazines hold 50-100 rounds, again depending on the model. So if you had three dudes mag dumping on the passenger side of the car (three ports that we see here) you'd have 150-300 rounds pop off in around 15 seconds. Even with the barrel outside the window, it still had to be a pretty overwhelming experience.
Chaos seems like understatement. I have to imagine they didn't frequently use the ports this way or fully unload their weapons.
ofc not. all-out shootouts were rare and a last resort. it's like those armored cartel trucks. a novelty or a deterrent to enemies that when used for combat is half the time a fight to the death and half the time provides for a narrow escape. if you're shooting three submachine guns with drum mags out the side of your bulletproof car, something has gone REALLY wrong.
That’s what I remember most about my first fire fight. You can’t just walk around with earplugs in either because you gotta communicate. It physically hurts your eardrums.
Is it a gloryhole if you can see who is on the other side? Does that not defeat the purpose. well maybe not the main goal, but at least the secondary goal.
Nope, it's in Primm, Nevada's *Primm-eer* attraction, the world-famous Vikki and Vance Casino and Museum!
First things first: any bosh you've heard about Vikki and Vance being copycats ain't nothing but ill-tempered slander. Fact is, they begun their crime spree *two days* before Bonnie and Clyde robbed their first bank - so who was copying who?
Now true, Vikki and Vance didn't exactly cut a wide swath of murder and bank robbery across the central U.S., like Bonnie and Clyde did. It was more like a narrow swath of shoplifting, check-cashing fraud, and gas pump driveoffs - but crime is crime! They drove reckless, too.
Having lived by the gun - well, Vance owned one, anyway - it was only fitting that the duo of desperados would die by the gun.
Perhaps it was fate itself that accidentally drove them into a crossfire between police and a gang of bank robbers in Plano, Texas. Or maybe they just didn't notice until it was too late. It's been said that Vikki would have tried to cash a bad check in that bank, had she lived. We'll never know for sure. All we know is that the crossfire tore the car and both occupants to pieces, and the police issued an official apology.
And here, you can put your eyes on the genuine Death Car!
I’m pretty sure this is at the Gangster Museum in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Old resort town that a lot of famous gangsters like Al Capone used to vacation(and hide) to.
If it's at the gangster museum in Hot Springs it's a recent ish addition. Was there at the end of 2021 and it wasn't there. But definitely a cool museum. One of the Dillinger Death Masks was on display when we visited!
I'm pretty sure this is a '36 Cadillac, which would have been built years after prohibition ended. I have no idea where OP got 1932 from, but this car is definitely newer than that.
From what I heard Bonnie and Clyde were just small time gangsters, and were not respected by bigger criminals like John Dillinger or Pretty Boy Floyd who often worked with or helped other robbers.
Respected, no. Feared, absolutely. Clyde in particular had a reputation for viciousness and unpredictability that made most criminals- other than his own relatives of course- steer well clear. Of all the criminal legends of the '30s, he always struck me as the clearest distillation of pure meanness.
Correct. Bonnie's last name was Parker. She was my maternal Great Grand Mother's first cousin, out of the Parker family. So, *technically. Of course we don't go by the Parker name anymore. Not any of them left so far as I know, sadly.
That's got a V16 in it, 185 horses actually.
Cadillac V-16 Model 452D coupe. Though I'm pretty sure that's a 1934, not a 1932 like the video states. However, these were mostly all custom chassis in that era, so while it looks like a '34, maybe they knew a guy who knew a guy.
A lil later in development Al capones 1940 v16 cadillac was suped up and reportedly reached 110mph making it the fastest of the era.
You can see it at collins foundation in MA.
Reminds me of an '82 Jeep Wagoneer I had. Absolutely massive 5.9L V8, but only made 160hp when it was new.
Honestly almost impressive how inefficient that shit was.
Yeahhhhhhh...
We got all those pesky emissions requirements to save what 2-3 mpg and the have to put a 5.9L engine in a car to get less than a 6 cylinder could get without emissions.
History repeats itself, always making things worse lol
I would argue the opposite - emissions and safety regulations have been some of the most important drivers of automotive innovation for decades. We can get twice the power out of half the cylinders and a third the displacement. All while delivering significantly better fuel economy and emissions.
That giant V8 delivered just 11MPG. Those modern turbo-4s can do 25-30.
My whole life, I was told that my great grandfather invented the Tommy gun. I found out as an adult that no, he was the first to use one in street warfare.
“Back in Chicago’s gangster era…”
When did it end? Last time I checked Chicago was one of the largest murder capitals in the US. It’s interesting to me that people think that prohibition of alcohol was dangerous to public safety but refuses to acknowledge that drug prohibition is probably worse.
Different type of crime though, committed by different people. Often you find that with proper organised crime groups, mafia, Yakuza etc, petty street crime levels actually reduce in those areas.
Cartel crime is still organized crime and we have the largest illegal drug market in the world. The big days of the mafia maybe long dead but don’t get it twisted, we still have enormous amounts of organized crime, we just don’t hear about it because we’ve learned from past mistakes of creating mythos around dangerous people. In the US, the illicit drug market is a half a trillion dollar industry. That’s 1% of our GDP.
Al capone owned several throughout the era. His were eventually bullet proof and the engines were suped up.
His 1940 v16 cadillac reportedly could go 110mph while carrying a lightly armored chassis which was bullet proof to most small arms.
That speed was more than any other sedan at the time.
His also had doors that swung each way to protect when getting out.
That's my thought. And probability-wise, it's not that far-fetched that a burst from an automatic weapon could sneak a couple of bullets through there.
If they took return fire it would be hitting the gun sticking through the hole. Which yeah would suck, but realistically probably wouldn't do much actual harm to the people inside. Its the sorta thing you wear gloves and some goggles and you are probably fine from the minor shrapnel/spawl.
The real problem is that if someone just shoots the engine... well now you are in enemy territory stuck in a reinforced car with no means of escape from the sure to come retaliation. You only have so much ammo and you basically can't get out and run without being shot in the back.
Makes you wonder. How could they afford bullet proof glass and ballistuc doors when nowadays it's extremly rare you see a armored car with this much glass in the hands of a gang member in New York. And its extremly expensive to armor a car today. Too much has happened between 1900s and today.
This looks great but my first thought is what stops a rival from walking up to the vehicle placing their tommy gun in the window and killing everyone in the car I would not be willing to get in a vehicle that had holes in the bulletproof window if I knew for a fact that I'm going to be shot at in my daily life driving it
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Imagine accidentally firing one off inside the car, or a stray bullet getting in somewhere. Ricochet city!
I imagine quite a few gangsters might have been WW1 veterans at that time.
I seem to recall something in a WW2 history about FDR? complaining that gangsters had cars with bulletproof windows but the airplane manufacturers weren't doin the same for fighter pilots. Can't for the life of me find a source for it though...
How in the hell did they have effective bullet-proof glass in 1932 that's only marginally thicker (if at all) than today's bullet-proof glass? Pretty impressive
Bulletproof at the time, you mean. I’m pretty sure modern firepower would break that specific glass if it was made today, but I don’t know enough about bulletproof glass to know it
must have been awkward to explain the holes when they were randomly stopped by the police
"oh the holes? no not for shooting... that's... uhm... that's gloryholes"
Serious question if someone randomly knows. How were these guns removed? I'm assuming laws changed and they slowly became less available. Maybe fully auto guns like that just seem common because of movies but were actually rarely used.
I cant imagine how insanely loud that must have been inside the car. The "Bren gun" scene from Lock Stock comes to mind... "you fire that gun again, you're dead man! Understand? Dead. No ifs, no buts, a fucking dead man!"
Must be loud as hell in there
For real. First thing that came to mind. "DID YOU GET HIM???" "WHAT? \**MAWP MAWP*\*"
Wait a minute. Was that an Archer reference?
Danger Zone!
Thank God for small miracles!
Lanaaaa
Blackhawk down
You okay? You alright? #WHAT?
YOURE GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK UP SIR MY HEARING IS NOT SO GOOD
A GERMAN GRENADE WENT OFF RIGHT BY MY HEAD! JIMMY RYAN?!
"Never take me alive, copper! N'yah, see!"
30 rounds of .45 in an enclosed metal space at Automatic speed = weeklong tinnitus; if it's two of these then PTSD
Boys back then were using the drum mags sometimes. Few hundred rounds possibly.
... and quite a lot of burned gunpowder fumes, and imagine amount of brass casings flying around. but then again, it would be much worse on the receiving side of things.
Holy fuck it would be chaos. The heat, smoke, noise, hot flying brass bouncing around getting stuck in every crevasse all mixed together would probably be insanely disorienting
Tommy Guns fire .45 ACP ammunition. The rate of fire for the gun is between 700-900 rounds per minute, depending on the model variation you have. The drum magazines hold 50-100 rounds, again depending on the model. So if you had three dudes mag dumping on the passenger side of the car (three ports that we see here) you'd have 150-300 rounds pop off in around 15 seconds. Even with the barrel outside the window, it still had to be a pretty overwhelming experience. Chaos seems like understatement. I have to imagine they didn't frequently use the ports this way or fully unload their weapons.
ofc not. all-out shootouts were rare and a last resort. it's like those armored cartel trucks. a novelty or a deterrent to enemies that when used for combat is half the time a fight to the death and half the time provides for a narrow escape. if you're shooting three submachine guns with drum mags out the side of your bulletproof car, something has gone REALLY wrong.
That gang was called Tinnitus
That’s what I remember most about my first fire fight. You can’t just walk around with earplugs in either because you gotta communicate. It physically hurts your eardrums.
“Because that would be unsafe” 🤣
‘Gotta be smart see!’
“Yyyeah, 10 and 2 if ya know what’s for ya, see”
Hahaha. Yeah that was my favorite part. They wouldn't want to be unsafe now.
Hahaha right, they draw the line at distracted driving
The forbidden gloryhole
its not forbidden, you can just go ahead and use it
That's how Freddy Four Fingers got his name
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Is it a gloryhole if you can see who is on the other side? Does that not defeat the purpose. well maybe not the main goal, but at least the secondary goal.
This is at the prohibition museum in Savannah ga right?
There is one at the WW2 museum in New Orleans as well
Mmmm fresh biscotti
Nope, it's in Primm, Nevada's *Primm-eer* attraction, the world-famous Vikki and Vance Casino and Museum! First things first: any bosh you've heard about Vikki and Vance being copycats ain't nothing but ill-tempered slander. Fact is, they begun their crime spree *two days* before Bonnie and Clyde robbed their first bank - so who was copying who? Now true, Vikki and Vance didn't exactly cut a wide swath of murder and bank robbery across the central U.S., like Bonnie and Clyde did. It was more like a narrow swath of shoplifting, check-cashing fraud, and gas pump driveoffs - but crime is crime! They drove reckless, too. Having lived by the gun - well, Vance owned one, anyway - it was only fitting that the duo of desperados would die by the gun. Perhaps it was fate itself that accidentally drove them into a crossfire between police and a gang of bank robbers in Plano, Texas. Or maybe they just didn't notice until it was too late. It's been said that Vikki would have tried to cash a bad check in that bank, had she lived. We'll never know for sure. All we know is that the crossfire tore the car and both occupants to pieces, and the police issued an official apology. And here, you can put your eyes on the genuine Death Car!
First thing I thought of when I saw this
Fun fact: real life Primm has the real life Bonnie and Clyde death car
I’m pretty sure this is at the Gangster Museum in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Old resort town that a lot of famous gangsters like Al Capone used to vacation(and hide) to.
If it's at the gangster museum in Hot Springs it's a recent ish addition. Was there at the end of 2021 and it wasn't there. But definitely a cool museum. One of the Dillinger Death Masks was on display when we visited!
I'm pretty sure this is a '36 Cadillac, which would have been built years after prohibition ended. I have no idea where OP got 1932 from, but this car is definitely newer than that.
Man. Bonnie and Clyde ain't got shit on this fella. And I'm saying even though Bonnie is *technically* my cousin, so….
From what I heard Bonnie and Clyde were just small time gangsters, and were not respected by bigger criminals like John Dillinger or Pretty Boy Floyd who often worked with or helped other robbers.
Respected, no. Feared, absolutely. Clyde in particular had a reputation for viciousness and unpredictability that made most criminals- other than his own relatives of course- steer well clear. Of all the criminal legends of the '30s, he always struck me as the clearest distillation of pure meanness.
I heard they were copy-cats anyway. Vikki and Vance began their their crime spree two days before Bonnie and Clyde robbed their first bank!
Bonnie is technically your Cousin. Wdym. you are for real a relative of one of the most popular criminals of all time? We need more infos Here, sir.
Correct. Bonnie's last name was Parker. She was my maternal Great Grand Mother's first cousin, out of the Parker family. So, *technically. Of course we don't go by the Parker name anymore. Not any of them left so far as I know, sadly.
Had a quick look at your account. Carry on sir.
Bruce Jenner is my aunt
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Is it still a glory hole if the wall is transparent?
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I kinda looses the charm if it's see through
What engine does that thing have to move all that weight
Big block V-8 cranking out a whopping 65 horse power
That's got a V16 in it, 185 horses actually. Cadillac V-16 Model 452D coupe. Though I'm pretty sure that's a 1934, not a 1932 like the video states. However, these were mostly all custom chassis in that era, so while it looks like a '34, maybe they knew a guy who knew a guy.
A lil later in development Al capones 1940 v16 cadillac was suped up and reportedly reached 110mph making it the fastest of the era. You can see it at collins foundation in MA.
That's insane. Explains why the engine bay is as long as VW golf
I thought you were joking at first.
Wouldn’t a coupe have one two doors? This has four.
Yep, you're right.
Reminds me of an '82 Jeep Wagoneer I had. Absolutely massive 5.9L V8, but only made 160hp when it was new. Honestly almost impressive how inefficient that shit was.
Yeahhhhhhh... We got all those pesky emissions requirements to save what 2-3 mpg and the have to put a 5.9L engine in a car to get less than a 6 cylinder could get without emissions. History repeats itself, always making things worse lol
I would argue the opposite - emissions and safety regulations have been some of the most important drivers of automotive innovation for decades. We can get twice the power out of half the cylinders and a third the displacement. All while delivering significantly better fuel economy and emissions. That giant V8 delivered just 11MPG. Those modern turbo-4s can do 25-30.
With ~30% more horseys to boot.
It's got holes in the bottom and you just propel yourself with gun shots.
My whole life, I was told that my great grandfather invented the Tommy gun. I found out as an adult that no, he was the first to use one in street warfare.
wow how cool. My great grandfather was the first one to get shot by one in street wa......wait a minute 🤬🤬🤬
Let’s not continue the intergenerational violence. This can end right now. 
He invented street warfare: Tommy gun edition
If only sonny would've had this car.
They wouldn't have massacred my boy like that :(
yep stay way from holes; bullet go thru them ez
Ahhh but they come out of em too
Good ol' Chicago typewriters. All the accuracy of a storm trooper but without the inconvenience of hearing retention.
“Back in Chicago’s gangster era…” When did it end? Last time I checked Chicago was one of the largest murder capitals in the US. It’s interesting to me that people think that prohibition of alcohol was dangerous to public safety but refuses to acknowledge that drug prohibition is probably worse.
Different type of crime though, committed by different people. Often you find that with proper organised crime groups, mafia, Yakuza etc, petty street crime levels actually reduce in those areas.
Cartel crime is still organized crime and we have the largest illegal drug market in the world. The big days of the mafia maybe long dead but don’t get it twisted, we still have enormous amounts of organized crime, we just don’t hear about it because we’ve learned from past mistakes of creating mythos around dangerous people. In the US, the illicit drug market is a half a trillion dollar industry. That’s 1% of our GDP.
They should have made the bikers out of whatever they cut the holes with.
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Al capone owned several throughout the era. His were eventually bullet proof and the engines were suped up. His 1940 v16 cadillac reportedly could go 110mph while carrying a lightly armored chassis which was bullet proof to most small arms. That speed was more than any other sedan at the time. His also had doors that swung each way to protect when getting out.
Gotta suck for the peeps inside when a bullet sneaks through that hole.
That's my thought. And probability-wise, it's not that far-fetched that a burst from an automatic weapon could sneak a couple of bullets through there.
If they took return fire it would be hitting the gun sticking through the hole. Which yeah would suck, but realistically probably wouldn't do much actual harm to the people inside. Its the sorta thing you wear gloves and some goggles and you are probably fine from the minor shrapnel/spawl. The real problem is that if someone just shoots the engine... well now you are in enemy territory stuck in a reinforced car with no means of escape from the sure to come retaliation. You only have so much ammo and you basically can't get out and run without being shot in the back.
FDR rode around in Al Capone’s bullet proof Caddy during WW2
@r/dontputyourdickinthat
Wasn't thos Capones car? This same car used to be at the imperial palace hotel in las vegas auto show they used to have.
How did a 1932 car do better work than the Elon Musk car
What if they shoot you in the tommy gun?
They don't make school busses how they used to
That glass is THICCCCCC
You know what makes this an obvious bot post other than the account it self, the total lack of info
gangster
Makes you wonder. How could they afford bullet proof glass and ballistuc doors when nowadays it's extremly rare you see a armored car with this much glass in the hands of a gang member in New York. And its extremly expensive to armor a car today. Too much has happened between 1900s and today.
Sure i believe it. But my tommy gun dont!
Imagine something like this in America today. Makes the shit happening in Portland look tame.
That’s like an Armored Kuruma
Nicee
So loud you could here the trunk vibrate down the block
Never part with your .50 BMG machine gun.
Nothing is sexier, than a girl with a Barrett M82. What is it with You and long guns?
Is this the car the president seized from Capone after he got pinched?
This looks great but my first thought is what stops a rival from walking up to the vehicle placing their tommy gun in the window and killing everyone in the car I would not be willing to get in a vehicle that had holes in the bulletproof window if I knew for a fact that I'm going to be shot at in my daily life driving it
Thank you, Captain obvious
Peep ..I mean Tommy gun holes are a must
I would hire a professional baseball player to throw a granade in one of those holes.
Needs bullet-proof holes.
Loud as shit inside that car when they shoot
They had bulletproof glass back then?
What are the chances of shooting a bullet though that joke from outside the car? I suppose they are quite small if the car's moving.
This is sick !!! I want one
Welcome to the Vicky and Vance Casino partner
rick o’connell would love this
rick o’connell would love this car
Vicky and Vance, anyone?
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Tommy gun is a pornstar, please call them thompsons
The first Presidential limo was a captured mafia car
The Mexican cartel taking notes.
He must have fought in “The war to end all wars”.
What about the rest of the car 😭
Has anybody played a game called Mafia here? This brings so many great memories I have while playing that game and going around the city.
Imagine accidentally firing one off inside the car, or a stray bullet getting in somewhere. Ricochet city! I imagine quite a few gangsters might have been WW1 veterans at that time.
Rare find, curious of the market value. I had the right monies & set up this would be in my collection maybe restored.
gets stopped by officer "so what are all these holes for 🤔 " it was hailing. not the cracks, the LITERAL PORTHOLES
Gory holes
What if they get shot through the port hole
No exterior door handles either, nice touch to deter mob mooks and beggy waifs both from trying to hitch a ride.
Isn't that boney and clides car?
World's first boss critical weak spot
Try hards.
"*Back* in the gangster era" Laughs in 2024 Chicago
Sure you may live but you'll go deaf!
Imagine being middle seat and you got 3 tommies being fired thru the windows. Your ears would probably never recover.
Whatever model of car that is, its not a '32. I would say more likely '34-'36 or so. Styling of cars changed a lot in the 30s.
eardrum blowout chamber
It was so easy before dna and camera's
# BYE BYE BLACKBIRD
...and far more useful and cool than Elons Wank Tank 🤘😎
I think those are called glory holes, they were used, primarily, to seek glory.
"Easy, kid stuff"
This is at the MOB museum in Las Vegas, really awesome place
Those are speed holes
That's the car museum near Masterton, New Zealand
I could quite happily walk around museums all day for the rest of my life lol
Can I buy, need to slide on my opps real quick
Yes, but what if people shoot through YOUR holes?!
omg this is so gangster
Dan McClellan is having an interesting change of topic
That’s the Bonny and Clyde Car right?
Nah more Al Capone
Give me my car back..... or else
WELCOME TO VIKKY AND VANCE CASINO !!!!
I seem to recall something in a WW2 history about FDR? complaining that gangsters had cars with bulletproof windows but the airplane manufacturers weren't doin the same for fighter pilots. Can't for the life of me find a source for it though...
That thing much weigh a ton right?
How in the hell did they have effective bullet-proof glass in 1932 that's only marginally thicker (if at all) than today's bullet-proof glass? Pretty impressive
Bulletproof at the time, you mean. I’m pretty sure modern firepower would break that specific glass if it was made today, but I don’t know enough about bulletproof glass to know it
The Deaf Man Gang, ever heard of them?
Drive by brothel
Vikki and Vance drove that car.
must have been awkward to explain the holes when they were randomly stopped by the police "oh the holes? no not for shooting... that's... uhm... that's gloryholes"
Bring this idea back
Which trim level is that on the Cyberyruck?
The holes are for dogging
“Covering fire!”
Chicago...."War....war never changes"
That sir is a public glory hole
Is that the Vicki and Vance death car?
I see not much has changed culturally in Chicago
So are they just blowing out their eardrums then?
We outlawed Tommy guns because they were so vicious and destructive. So now we have assault rifles.
I live in a tough neighbourhood … I could use that for the school pickup run
You would think the structural integrity on those would be shit after you drill those holes into them.
Yeah Bonnie and Clyde didn’t fool around they were there to kill you if you got in the way.
Shoot the tires and throw Molotov cocktails at it!
Does someone know the story of this car, or rather what the hell happened here?
So shoot through the holes.
Dude. This guy giving the tour is so funny. "That would be unsafe." As men are literally gunning each other down in the streets.
What the Cybertruck wanted to be
Design ideas for Cybertruck 2.0
r/dontputyourdickinthat
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I thought it was the Bonnie and Clyde car for a second d
Serious question if someone randomly knows. How were these guns removed? I'm assuming laws changed and they slowly became less available. Maybe fully auto guns like that just seem common because of movies but were actually rarely used.
Notice how he said you would be in a lot of trouble, not they would be in a lot of trouble, because the people with guns run the show.
we need more car like this in American schools
Nuckle up boys it’s bout to be a wild time.
Goodbye eardrums
I cant imagine how insanely loud that must have been inside the car. The "Bren gun" scene from Lock Stock comes to mind... "you fire that gun again, you're dead man! Understand? Dead. No ifs, no buts, a fucking dead man!"
Where’s this at?
modern Chicago gangsters: *furiously taking notes*
r/Lackadaisy will have fun with this one
I bet that thing was super loud and smokey