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alltheblues

Is that dude tucking his shirt into his underwear to show off the Calvin logo?


SeeYouWarrior

I have seen this particular tiktok before, it was done as a joke apparantly, as the camera pans over to an advert where the model in the ad does the same thing.


aKa_anthrax

Yeah they’re really bad fits lol, I wish these sites could use better examples


discreetlyabadger

Yeah, it’s called the Belgian tuck 😂


jpop237

He looks like a Gen Xer trying to be a Gen Zer.


flibbidygibbit

how do you do, fellow kids?


willowhawk

🤢


Dancingbeavers

Well what's the point of buying branded underwear if you can't show off to everyone?


AndyWatt83

Amazing, I'm about to be fashionable again. I suppose a stopped wardrobe is right twice a thirty-years


As_I_Lay_Frying

As much as I dislike skinny jeans due to my big butt/calves/thighs I think the larger problem is jeans with a low rise. I can fit into trim fitting trousers with a traditional high rise (for example J Press of all places makes fairly trim fitting trousers) but anything with a low rise just looks awful on most men and accentuates our hips.


romeoalphajuliett

THANK YOU. Took me a long time to realize the rise thing. With my BR low rise chinos,when I sit down, the back part of my belt is struggling to keep my pants up at the back. Simply wearing pants a little higher would resolve this. I’m done wearing low rise slim fit pants that basically give no room above the knees if you have thicc thighs.


MusicInStitches

I guess I'm in denial because I still appreciate the form fitting silhouettes of hedi slimane and other designers who tiptoe around the slim and skinny fitting jean or trousers. I like a lot of the looser fits in certain cases and some aesthetics. I even own and wear some wide fitting trousers with a bit more flare towards the hem but all have a bit more form fitting waist and thigh. I still think the skinny or form fitting bottom half the outfit is relevant. I still think it plays a strong card in today's fashion in all elements of accentuating or complimenting the top half of an outfit. Or call me old fashioned I guess lolz. :)


Iwannayoyo

There’s always going to be a slimmer side and a wider side to trends. The slims have gotten less slim recently but you can still be more comfortable on the slimmer side.


[deleted]

Fashion had to go wide again to make us buy more stuff. It’s a fad .


DrRichardJizzums

Just hold tight. Never change your style and it will circle back around to you. I’m not wrong, it’s all of you who lost your way.


Rusty51

Yep, I never got into skinny jeans and now I’m in style again.


ActiveNL

>hold tight Heh.


No_Entertainment1931

Big wheel keep on turning…


jaxxon

At least I still have my jeans in storage from 20 years ago.


Rainydaybear999

Bust out this JNCOs friend lol


Munu2016

If only I'd thought of this!


Sweatervest42

Fashion had to go slim to make us buy stuff in the 2000's. It's a fad.


biznisss

I don't love that "skinny" fit is often cast as the opposite of a wide fit rather than a relaxed fit. A relaxed, narrow fit is possible on a narrow frame (a straight silhouette that remains close to the body).


[deleted]

You and I are in same boat lol. Let’s not let it sink.


greennick

Aren't baggier jeans more old fashioned? 😅


CallMeRoy37

That’s the point of what most people are saying, if you go back far enough it goes from wide to skinny and back multiple times. It all circles around again when the designers need to make more money from the “new” trend.


greennick

I know, that's what I mean, the OG jeans were kind of baggy. They were work clothes and they wanted them to be breathable.


itsam

2003 NBA Draft vibes are back! https://media.bleacherreport.com/w_800,h_533,c_fill/br-img-images/002/155/062/2003.nba_.draft__original_crop_north.jpg


Key_Dot7140

You're not old-fashioned. The original denim trousers were straight-legged, high-waisted and quite roomy. They were work clothes. Levis 501's have never really been unpopular since they launched. If you're old enough, you know that it's the slim and skinny stuff that is a passing trend. Classic menswear jeans are straight legged, high-waisted and with a medium leg opening. The skinny trend did ruin men's fashion for a long time (look at Thom Browne with his mini-suits- it's ridiculous!), but now things are looking better again.


alexmikli

I know this is a more a *fashion* sub than a *style* sub, but yeah, there are absolutely a ton of timeless looks. You can wear straight cut jeans and look great, and won't have to throw them out when some fashion model orcelebrity gets to wear their underpants over their shirt while wearing Jnco's.


dirtyculture808

Slim and skinny is always going to be more visually appealing especially for fit/muscular people


[deleted]

I literally can't wear skinny jeans because my legs are too big


realjefftaylor

All my jeans become skinny jeans because my legs are too big


[deleted]

Quad gang


ImpressionPlanet

conversely, my legs are so skinny that when I wear "skinny" jeans, a lot of time I still have enough room for them to look closer to the non-skinny jeans that the dudes in the article have supposedly upgraded to. Not that they look super baggy or anything, but definitely not form fitting the way some folks wore skinny jeans


As_I_Lay_Frying

Same, I have huge thighs + calves and a bubble butt from doing lots of squats and playing squash (tons of lunging). I can't wear anything that's low rise or too slim. Best jeans for me are the Levis 541 "Athletic Cut."


[deleted]

[What redditors think is visually appealing](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/ax9eVw1_700bwp.webp)


spirited1

Love how when skinny/slim jeans are brought up some people immediately jump to the skin tight little sister jeans, even when there are endless examples what skinny jeans actually refer to. In the same vein people crying about relaxed fits like they're going to have to go back to the JNCO day clown pants. I feel like all the arguing is because people aren't actually considering what these trends actually look like.


CunningRunt

I know, [right](https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_1600/vx6m6lsugvlh4dvozayq.jpg)?


unsteadied

Yeah, loose fit stuff is fashionable right now, but I think it’s much, much harder to pull off. The rest of the fit has to compliment it really well, otherwise it just looks like you’re wearing pants that don’t fit. I generally wear simpler fits: hoodies, tees, bomber jackets, that sort of stuff, and slim jeans work with them. Plus I wear all black (except for the shoes) a lot, and anything other than slim black jeans in that context feels wrong somehow.


Kantogym

Wear whatever you’re comfortable with. If you can pull off skinny jeans or bell bottoms, it’s your personality that wins at the end of the day


nfs3freak

So true. I'm curious why we're on this subreddit then


theCCPisfullofgays

To inspire each other!


Regumate

And for the love of the game!


Kroznot

Can’t forget crippling anxiety & indecisiveness!


I_Eat_Thermite7

Lots of people don't know their own style and need pointing in the right direction


TheSunRogue

I first started perusing this sub 12 years ago when I was just out of college, had some money, and had NO idea what the hell I should even be trying to look like. I totally fell into the "MFA Outfit" at the time (v-neck sweater over button-down, fitted pants, chukka boots, etc...) and that helped me figure out what I liked and didn't like with it. Losing game to come here to chase actual trends.


I_Eat_Thermite7

yea i was big into OCBDs raw denim and GATs in highschool. Uniforms are not actually a bad way to get started imo


alexmikli

Yeah, the big drawback to this sub is often users chase trends or massive logos on their clothes(esp in streetwear). Still, the basic ideas of color combinations and styles can be learned here, just maybe don't buy the 400 dollar hoodie that someone recommends here.


[deleted]

I started wearing skinny jeans in 2005 because I loved bands like The Strokes and The Libertines. I was mocked mercilessly. I thought it was a fad. I still liked wearing them and it was weird watching them being adopted by the mainstream. The first time I went to the US about 10 years ago I still looked conspicuous in them and then by 2020 everyone was wearing them over there. Now it feels like the same people who mocked me for wearing skinny jeans are acting like it's all they've ever worn and they'll never change. My brother even said, "But you were wearing super skinny jeans"... I wore the same 510s he's wearing now. It amazes me how much our perception it shaped by habituation and familiarity.


ismellpancakes

To give your brother a small amount of credit- Levis does change their fit as fads change, even within each numbered series. 510's from the early 2010's will be skinnier than 510's now. There's a few guides out there that show just how severely the 501 has changed over the decades. All of this is a bit annoying to me- if they want to change a fit. Just change the number. If I bought some 501's in the 80's I should be able to go out today and buy a pair of 501's that fit just the same!


[deleted]

True. I agree about what you on Levi's ever changing cuts too. Trying to buy old 501s online can be a real pain in the butt... sometimes literally.


Koral_Grimes

While they were out drinking and doing illegal drugs, you wore skinny jeans. While they were having premarital sex, you wore skinny jeans.


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Koral_Grimes

And when Insider reports that skinny jeans are back in another 10 years, they will all come to him for aid.


RoughhouseCamel

And he’ll look down at them and whisper, “No”


LightlySalty

While they wasted their days at the gym in pursuit of vanity, you cultivated the skinny jeans fit. And now that the world is on fire and the new trends are at the gate they have the audacity to come to you for help.


[deleted]

I'm just a contrarian bastard who hates doing what everyone else is doing.


[deleted]

Unfortunately I was deffo doing the drugs part and I've got two kids and no wife sooo


[deleted]

😭 there was no need for this but thank you.


YOLOSELLHIGH

Back in my day we had to shop on the girl’s section to get jeans skinny enough for us


A_Benign_Fungus

Seriously.. It's a bit weird seeing these comments saying "there will always be skinny and baggy cuts". Because yeah, no, skinny jeans for men didn't exist until recently


Zoklar

They did rename the 510 from “super skinny” to “skinny” at some point. Crazy to me they did that; my first skinny jeans around the same time were 511s and those became “slim”


[deleted]

About 2 years too late lmao


Davesbeard

Ironically the fact that articles like this are coming out probably means baggy will start to become uncool again slowly from now


Wyzen

Exactly. Its like what they say about investing, by the time the masses know, its too late.


inspectorseantime

*Buy the rumor, sell the news.*


09-24-11

That’s why we put away (but don’t throw out) the slim cuts now. And wow, they’ll be vintage by the time we bring them out again.


[deleted]

And it was short lived. They were banging in about this but I never saw it anywhere.


isonlynegative

Weve been on the oversized wave since 2017/16 in mens fashion, in my world slimfit should lowkey be on the up again


astrnght_mike_dexter

What? 2016 was peak YSL. Oversized was still a pretty niche trend back then.


joggingdaytime

by 2016 "mom jeans" were already becoming an expensive commodity at vintage boutiques, and I was annoyed because I and many people I knew had been rocking them on the cheap for like at least a year... So I'd be hard-pressed to say it was "niche" by that point.


say_no_to_panda

Idc what they wear i like both


MrCenturionCard

Does this mean the lulu lemon slim fit commissions are out?


breakfastpastry

Still good for working in an office with a nice dress shirt


DwigtSchrute54

Very true, would look odd showing up in boxy pants to the office


PolaroidBook

20 years ago it would look odd showing up in skinny trousers


breddy

Pleats. So many pleats.


clothes-and-pasta

Nah, I show up to my work every day with at least straight fit pants, for Chinos and wool pants, etc. I actually always go for relaxed fit paired with classic or relaxed fit ocdb's. It's a more timeless, "old", ivy look which translates incredibly well into smart casual office wear.


aKa_anthrax

yes, it’s debatable id they’ve ever actually been fashionable to people interested in fashion to begin with tbh


Jan-Pawel-II

Yeah, those polyester trousers were never it


boringtuktuk2022

Many of us wear and like them. We’re not trying to be fashionable. It’s about functional efficiency and comfort. Lulus are everywhere amongst 20 and early 30 year olds at consulting and other professional services oriented firms.


YourBoyGalton

Why are you using business jargon to describe clothing?


LightlySalty

My legs and ass look great in slimmer fits, so imma keep wearing it.


reverbiscrap

I've never been able to wear skinny jeans; ass and thighs too thicc for them. Comfy khakis with the cuff and the crease all day.


everythingpurple

Slim fit, reg fit > skinny fit, baggy fit


Kadoomed

These are probably frowned upon in this sub but you get slim jeans made with a slightly stretchy denim, great for thick thighs! I cycle a lot and so have big legs, finding those jeans was a revelation for me. I'm in the UK and Next have some that still have a good cut and look good, not sure who does them in other countries.


KangarooMain4996

Primark jeans are cheap as chips and fit well. I only get jeans from there but I have the big thigh thing too so stiff denim is really uncomfortable


jdolbeer

I've played basketball my entire life and have huge calves and thighs because of it. I remember trying on a pair of Nudie jeans and not even being able to get them past my knees. Mind you, I was 5'10 with a 31" waist and about 160lbs.


goldsoundzz

I’ve always had the same issue with Nudies. Proportions always seemed wack. However, I randomly picked up a pair of the Gritty Jacksons on sale and they are the most comfortable denim I’ve ever had.


Agitated-Method-4283

Never done skinny, but still do a slim or slim taper like Levi's 511/512. Have straight leg styles in the rotation also. I had the same problem with a pair of Nudies once. 512 will get stuck on my calves on the way off, but they're not ridiculous all the way up.


wokeiraptor

I like slim taper Levi’s. I used to wear the 541 athletic taper, but the last pair I got was more on the relaxed fit side. I don’t know if they changed the cut or if it’s just Levi’s being inconsistent


reverbiscrap

Same, except football, biking and hiking. At 6' and 170 and age 21, skinny jeans were a complete nonstarter.


Nixplosion

Same except I'm fat


bramm90

Thing is though, when your thighs and calves get too big, you'll get a tight fit in practically any pants. With baggier pants, that just means a huge bulk of fabric around your knees and ankles while the rest is still snug. With my build, pretty much everything that isn't shorts looks ridiculous. Skinnies with a massive stretch are the only normal pants I can kind of pull off.


ScientistStandard100

I agree with that. I played football (soccer) for year so have really big thighs and struggle to find stuff to fit. Loads of trousers and jeans that are normally loose around the thigh for the majority of people are a struggle to get on unless I go up to a size that's too big in the waist. The best jeans I've found for me are Uniqlo; the slim selvedge jeans are my favourites, and cost about £40.


Blog_Pope

I have to get Levi’s 569 Loose Straight fit, and they are snug across the thighs and calves. It’s Levi’s loosest fit but it fits me like a slim cut. The discontinued them briefly but thankfully brought them back


dihydrogen_monoxide

Levi's 541 works for me, I ordered 7 pairs in different styles. I used to squat heavy every workout and developed ginormous we quads that the jeans would wear through from friction. At least Levi's are cheap enough to replace!


retirement_savings

I'm a powerlifter and Levi's 541 are the only pants I've found that mostly fit. They're still somewhat tight in the ass and they're already wearing out in the upper thigh but they're the best option I've found so far.


chuckleym8

Is showing them off.. not the point?


reverbiscrap

Yes, but my balls thank me for not choking them to death.


altSHIFTT

These weren't skinny jeans until I put em on


PM_ME_UR_CUDDLEZ

Skateboarders : yall late


YOLOSELLHIGH

Hahahah what? Tik tok and gen z? They’ve been out for almost 5 years and I see gen z people wear them all the time. What a goofy thing to say


deniall83

As someone with super skinny legs, I just can't wear baggy pants/jeans. I have moved from skinny to slim straight in previous years and I think that's a nice look.


Saturnzadeh11

Me with muscular legs wishing they were slimmer so I could wear baggier pants without looking like a tent 🥲


Slack_Irritant

As a chubby millennial, I could never pull them off anyways. So, thank you zoomers.


-CoachMcGuirk-

Us, dudes, who aren't so skinny appreciate this new trend....


09-24-11

I think the women’s trend to looser fit was a cultural response to fashion being geared to skinny women so this tracks


zaphod777

Dress for the body you've got rather than following trends. A well fitting cut for a slim guy is going to be very different from someone who's heavier, or someone who lifts a lot.


[deleted]

That's where I expect a lot of this coming from. If you're a little on the large size or have muscular runners legs (like me) skinny is a real pain. I have some skinny jeans and cannot wear them for too long - I rarely if ever wear them these days - because they pinch behind the knee too much. I also have 'slim' chinos from Finisterre, that are too baggy for me. And I have an old (4 years+) pair of Uniqlo chinos that fit me magnificently - and then I try a new pair in shop and they are very 'generous' around the waist. (Everlane seem okay) Trouser fit seem to be like shoe sizes - you never know what you are going to get.


NorthwardRM

Uniqlo have exact sizes on their size guide


ScientistStandard100

I've always found those size charts to be way off the mark


FamousLastName

I think skinny jeans are the “dad jean” of the late 2000’s/ 2010’s. When I say this I mean they are now the default. The are no longer “trendy” and haven’t been for some time (probably since 2019ish) but they are readily available in department stores. If you go out and you look around, a lot of older millennials / gen x and even younger boomers are wearing skinny jeans. Like anything, eventually they saturate the market and become the default. I had to look back at my [insta](https://imgur.com/a/rqQ0rKz) as to when I last wore a pair of skinny jeans. July of 2016 hahaha. Pre mustache too 😵‍💫


greennick

Didn't millennials start the skinny jeans trend, so of course they're wearing them? They also all wore baggy jeans when they were cool the first time. Skinny jeans were in response to people wanting a more mature and stylish look then the baggy jeans they grew up with.


clothes-and-pasta

And now wider cuts are a response to skinny and slim pants in return. It's all very cyclical. Younger generations and a part of the millennial demographic now wear wider fits wanting a more mature look then the skinny pants of the last decade.


MorningYerLordship

Couldn’t agree more. The skinny jeans, band t-shirt (it’s King Gizzard instead of Thin Lizzy or Pink Floyd) and shirt are now the dad look.The torch has been passed as father times turns our own fathers intro grandfathers! I’ve abandoned my skinny jeans a while back in favour of slim or looser clothes. Given how long skinny jeans held the spotlight, let’s see how long the looser fit stays.


xcubbinx

King Gizz being a dad band is an interesting take. I agree with you though.


MorningYerLordship

Haha - yeah, not so much. But I didn't want to go for a Fall Out Boy t-shirt. Fun fact: I saw a dude pushing a buggy the other day with skinny jeans AND a studded belt. Makes you think, did the previous era dads just wear what they had at 25 then never change? My friends dad is a bit older and accidentally came back into fashion a few years ago with his 'retro' look. Little do they know he'd been like that for 5 decades.


mattattaxx

That's what every dad does. You hit a style that feels comfortable in your era and you sick to it because you've been wearing it for a while. Twenty years later you start resenting the next generation for doing what you did - establishing a different aesthetic that's completely counter to the generation before you. But by then, you're the out of touch dad wearing an against me shirt, skinny jeans, a studded belt, and black vans.


clothes-and-pasta

See, us Germans, we have another, final step: Once you hit retirement age, all your clothes turn beige - expect your shirts, these turn to ill fittnig check shirts made from breathable stretch material. Your coveted sneakers and loafers and hand made boots turn to sandals and socks. You'll also start to carry walking sticks with you everywhere you go. It's an unsolved mystery and it happens to 90% of the population, seemingly overnight.


bkn6136

I mean they're very popular with the 30 something dude crowd. That's dad band territory.


BlueCity8

Yeah for us wide cut pants are dad jeans; or high rise jeans for women are mom jeans etc.


wokeiraptor

As an old millennial, “dad jeans” to me are relaxed fit stone washed jeans from old navy worn with Air Monarchs or some random ASICS shoes worn by our completely fashion clueless Home Depot boomer dads. Slim/skinny jeans and minimalist sneakers or boots set millennials apart from our parents’ generation by looking more “put together”. It was also a rejection of boot cut and the terrible “designer” jeans from the ‘00s. Plus emo/scene guys were wearing girl jeans in the early ‘00’s before skinny jeans were available for men.


FamousLastName

Nail on the head! I think the young gen z’a and now even alphas?? probably saw slim/ skinny fits as “dad”. But your vision of “dad” jeans is identical to mine or at least what I used to picture. The awful pre distressed/ washed old navy jean. Also I ever buying my first pair of “girl pants” back when I was in third grade. I thought I was the shit.


clothes-and-pasta

I'm a millenial Dad (mid 30s) and I feel WAY more comfortable in straight and loose cuts compared to skinny / slim jeans. My go to model these days is [Sunflower Standard Jeans](https://www.asphaltgold.com/products/sunflower-standard-jeans-natural-vintage) which is actually on the looser side of straight cuts. I made the transition around the same time as you, I think I wore my last pair of skinny jeans somewhere in 2017. It is also very nostalgic, it reminds me of the levi's my Dad was wearing when I was a small kid in the early 90s.


travvvvvvv

Millenial here... Good riddance. Honestly the "everything must fit perfectly" trend was such a pain in the ass. Such a struggle to find the perfect brand that complimented your body type and preferences perfectly.


jasoneeum

I think fit is more important than people think with wearing oversized clothing. You can't just grab a baggy pair of jeans and a belt and call it a day. Even oversized needs to fit a certain way otherwise it looks sloppy.


likethevegetable

Agreed! And it needs to be coordinated with other aptly fitted garments.


DeathGodComplex

Does skinny jeans include Levi 511 and 512? If this style is out can anyone explain what “cut”/style of jeans/pants are in now? Doesn’t have to be a specific make or model although that would be helpful! A generic term across brands is mainly what I’m asking for


unfashionable_me

Straight. Plenty of people are wearing "Relaxed" as well, but "Straight" is the most common on the average person. For Levi's try 501s, 505s, or 514s.


DeathGodComplex

Thanks that’s helpful! Luckily I got a couple pairs of 514s. Is there an equivalent in Uniqlo or other <$100 good quality jeans?


unfashionable_me

Uniqlo feels a little behind here actually, though their Uniqlo U "Regular fit" jeans are on trend. I'm sure most mall brands have straight cuts. Wrangler 13MWZ cowboy cut I've heard is good.


09-24-11

I sized up my waist on the Uniqlo selvedge denim, slim thigh straight leg cut. It’s more loose than my 511s but not WIDE either. It’s a comfortable step for me. Sub $100 jeans can be found on the second hand market, especially Levi’s 501, 505 as the other commenter mentioned.


aKa_anthrax

Yes, it does. Straight legs at the least are in


Agitated-Method-4283

511 and 512 are both slim, but not skinny. 510 is a skinny. The 512 being a tried 511 is probably more off trends was the bottom gives off a skinny vibe, but I match my pants opening size to what shoes I'm wearing. It's hard to rock a Nike metcon or "casual" dress shoes with a straight leg with a large opening. The shoes are to low profile. You need something chunky with a straight leg like a boot, a high top (Nike blazers still seem trendy) or those ridiculous dad sneakers people younger than I am wear currently. It's more important to match your own style than to wear a straight leg pants with shoes that have the wrong profile. Chunky shoes are in so it makes sense straight legs are also in. I've got everything from vintage silvertab wide leg to 512 on the slim side and wear most of them. I've got other brands as well, but those are more or less the widest and skinniest I own.


sergeantmentos

511s and 512s aren’t “in” right now, but they’re still far from being considered skinny.


aKa_anthrax

reposting from above 512s would have been called skinny jeans in literally any decade other than the early 2010s. I don’t think people realize how absurdly skinny their pants were, it’s drastically warped peoples view on how clothes fit. Yes, 512s are skinny jeans. 511s could maybe get classified as very slim slim jeans but you’d still get called gay for wearing them in 2008. Also, I’d consider myself a very skinny person, I have basically average size legs since I walk a lot, not even remotely “big”, and 511s are almost skin tight on them


sergeantmentos

i see, maybe different standards where i’m from in asia


[deleted]

What are 510s then? Because they are supposedly the skinny model but they aren’t as tight as my 512s?


aKa_anthrax

They are skinny jeans, they’re skinnier than 512s, Levis’s has shit quality quality control which is probably why they don’t feel as tight


09-24-11

We are talking about this again? This isn’t a black and white discussion but people come off like it’s Levi’s 511 or hot topic UFO pants and nothing in between. The videos in this article are some Levi’s 501, 505 equivalent. No MC Hammer parachute pants. Serious cringe boomer vibes with people being a combination of insulted, angry and anti-gen z just because of trends in slightly looser pants. With the attitudes in this thread, the dad jeans might be the least dad thing about some of you.


605_

Today’s “trend” is just a fancy way of saying y’all busted out the clothing styles of the late 90’s to early 00’s again. I remember wearing Timberlands, Levi’s and a Tommy Hilfiger shirt for my school photo in 3rd grade in 1997 and I shit you not I saw someone wearing the same “fit” out at a club the other weekend. Told me he went thrifting 🤙 none of this fashion is new it’s just the stuff that wasn’t cool in 1997 is somehow the standard today.


dogwonk

It's so bizarre to see this when - as a skateboarder - skinny jeans have been trending out for nigh on a decade now. Skaters have reached and gone beyond the silhouettes pictured in the article; readjusted; and there is now, perhaps predictably, a wide spectrum of fits that can be seen on the socials of pros. Perhaps the best part about the subculture is that - although trousers and their fit is the subject of somewhat private obsessions and interpersonal dissection - there are less places in which the argument regarding slim vs baggy is had. In my more optimistic moments, I chalk this up to an acceptance that people should wear whatever they feel comfortable in and that expresses their personality best. The relative pros and cons are a matter to be judged by the individual. This being settled, we can turn our minds to more interesting matters, such as the correct lacejob (don't ask).


Responsible-Salt-443

I knew skinny jeans were on borrowed time when I saw 50-60 year old men in my office wearing them. Figure it took about 15 years for the skinny jean trend to fully saturate the market and the oversized/90s look started to bubble back up in 2015, maybe we’ll hit an equilibrium in 2030?


[deleted]

Just as one can put together great outfits in wide legs, or slims, one can put together a great outfit in skinny jeans 👍🏻 it all depends on the outfit as a whole and how you wear it


one_hyun

It's interesting seeing fashion go all the way around. My dad's generation was the generation of wearing looser pants. I'm probably going to be "unfashionable" like I thought my dad was within a few years because I like thinner jeans.


mooseman780

ITT: millenials (like myself) that found a style that worked in 2015 and are now in denial. Ride the wave of change my friends. But I think there's something to be said for giving trousers a more relaxed fit. Gives the proportions more balance.


Jcw122

The TikTok video they reference…I think the author looked much better in skinny jeans.


axlsexy

Skinny jeans are dead. Move on. I grew up in the 90's and skinny jeans (which we used to call drainpipes back then) were hideously uncool then too. They were associated with Motley Crue & Poison more than garage rock. Pearl Jam, the Beastie Boys, Stone Roses all the cool bands were wearing baggy. Baggy had a strong run but by the late 00's it was associated with Limp Bizkit & Kid Rock. The cool bands like the Strokes, Libertines etc were wearing skinny. Skinny had a good run all the way until the last couple years, now baggy is cool. You hardly ever see anyone wearing skinny under 30 now unless they are a bit chavy. https://preview.redd.it/cc6pzpdwmm1b1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7e902611780d66c39cb43df2b1babf7872a9b71


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axlsexy

That look killed the skinny jean here in the UK. Without sounding elitist it has become associated with the lower classes. It's more Love Island than the Strokes.


HeadyofBorg

Hedi 4 lyfe! I remember having to turn to women’s pants for a skinny/slim fit as a kid since men’s jeans didn’t come in those fits. I appreciate the wide silhouette, but that’s just not me. I also think trend following is a young persons game. They find wide fits as new a fresh while the rest of us have been there and done that already.


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Yeah, I was a skater in the 90s and these kids don't know what baggy is!


chocolateboomslang

"Hey, let's make the same video as literally every other person to show how cool we are!" Man, I hate tiktok so much.


Waffleman75

This dude really tuck his shirt into his underwear to show off a fucking logo?


DopestSoldier

"Millennial women have confronted this news with confusion and alarm on TikTok". This is a strange planet we live on.


Abraham-J

What a miserable way of existence to let others decide what you wear


mcfly1982

Just wear whatever you want. Wgaf what gen z or anyone else thinks.


FaulkThisShit

This is a fashion sub where people talk about fashion. You don’t have to follow trends, but if you like fashion you might want to know about them.


unfashionable_me

I don't understand this take on a sub called /r/malefashionadvice. You can wear what you want obviously, doesn't mean that its fashionable. Right now straight jeans or more relaxed cuts are fashionable.


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unfashionable_me

Man if 501s isn't in the purview of the "normal dude" than what the fuck is. And the reality is if you wear skinny/slim jeans, you look a bit dated. You are only going to look more and more dated as time passes. Its not really "good style" any more. People are upset that fashion has moved on and left them behind because they "solved" it 10 years ago. That's how fashion works, you can't ever look good indefinitely without changing anything. Just like 50 year olds look "old" because they wear what was popular when they were 24, so do the millennials clinging to skinny jeans. Times have changed. And even more ironically, 501s are probably closer to a "average of good style" of the last 50 years than the 511s these people are clinging to.


Agitated-Method-4283

Levi's updates the 501 cut with trends although it keeps a straight leg it gets wider or skinnier with time. It also generally maintains a more traditional waist height that is higher than most jeans for the last could decades.


unfashionable_me

I'm very aware of how it works lol. It's done for all cuts. But the 501 would have never been recommended 10 years ago, even with the cut at the time. Hell the current cut of 501s that these people are complaining about are both rather slim, and rather low rise compared to what's popular. Like I understand your point but that's even more of a reason that if the "normal guy" bought only 501s over his life, based on the last 50 years he'd be more "normal" than not, compared to 511s, which were only introduced 20 years ago.


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i feel like i bought my 501s because of this sub 10 years ago


dtown4eva

501s were recommended 10 years ago on this sub. https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/mu2zu/the_basic_wardrobe_30/


-Tony

501’s a decade ago we’re raw, shrink to fits. 511’s we’re mostly prewashed. You’re conflating a couple things here.


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Royal_Motor

Most men 30+ I see in the city still wearing the same fits as before. Saw a guy on 42nd St with some really baggy chinos the other day and he def stood out, in a good way to me, but just stood out because mostly everyone else still in the skinny and slim fits.


jayydubbya

I was going to say as a 33 year old dude in a Midwest city absolutely nothing has changed really. Athleisure and streetwear is the most widely popular. I dress more preppy myself these days. Call me an old man but I guess when you’re old enough to see the complete cycle from baggy jeans in the 90s to skinny jeans in the 2000s back to looser fits today it just sounds a little childish to declare a certain fit officially unfashionable because brands want to sell you new clothes. I’m going to wear what I like at this point and continue to develop my own personal style whether that’s in line with current trends or not and see my peers doing the same.


rpkarma

Tbh skinny jeans haven’t been fashionable for a couple years at this point? This trend isnt new, seems odd to proclaim it like it is. Maybe it’s just at a critical mass now?


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Why are you on this sub?


montibbalt

I can't speak for the person you're replying to but I originally came here years ago just trying to look a little nicer / like an adult. You know, for the advice part of the name. As with any community some people take it a little too seriously, and others can only give the same advice so many times...


suedeandconfused

To be fair, looking nicer doesn't necessarily mean looking fashionable. Most people benchmark how they dress against their peers and want to dress as well or better than others their age. A 21 year old who wants to "look nicer" probably will end up gravitating towards different advice than a 38 year old who wants to "look nicer"; maybe both incorporate fashionable looks into how they dress, or one is more fashionable than the other, or neither one ends up dressing in a fashionable way but still feel they look nicer than they did before coming to MFA.


aKa_anthrax

Why are you on a fashion sub if you don’t care about fashion


Wild-Cauliflower9421

Im not going to lie, looser trousers are a lot more comfy.


Pepe_MM

They are, although the true game changer is the high rise. Low rises are the devil's work.


TomPrince

Fuck this trend. Gen Z is wrong and will fail miserably. We lived through the JNCO era and it was a huge mistake. No one is interested in going back to baggy. Slim-fit pants are important.


mulched-wood-pecker

this is the perfect satire


rpkarma

One of the most perfect demonstrations of trolling I’ve seen in ages lol


sniperhare

Nah it's not satire.


wokeiraptor

One thing they seem to be doing better is that they at least roll or crop the baggy pants. We had to suffer with wet Abercrombie boot cut jeans dragging through puddles and completely covering our shoes. I’m 41. I did Levi’s Silvertab baggy jeans in middle school. I eventually switch to relaxed Tommy Hilfiger and Levi jeans in HS, and then got on the AE and AF jeans in college. After that I wore gap straight leg jeans and dabbled into the 7 for all mankind and diesel trend. Eventually I switched to slim taper fits and got a couple pairs of raw denim. I’ve mostly stuck with that from 2015 on, except that since 2020 I barely even wear jeans anymore. I’m mostly at home with kids. It’s Patagonia baggies when it’s warm and joggers when it’s cold. There’s no point to submitting myself to the restriction of denim and a leather belt unless I’m actually “going out”.


Cheeseish

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/019/304/old.jpg


qspure

Having lived through the baggy-baggy era, there's no way I'm going back. I am going for ever so slightly wider fits and less extreme tapers though. From a 17,5 cm leg opening to 19 cm (6.8 and 7.4 inch for the unscientific). Still not baggy by any means, but a bit more comfy. Also wonder what the rise will do on pants. When baggy pants went out, low rise bootcuts came in strong. I think low rise looks pretty bad, especially if you tuck in a shirt.


aKa_anthrax

ok


Thecus

Haha bunch of angry Gen Zers forgetting we were their age or younger in the 90s. Every 20-30 years this cycle happens. It always goes back. We’ll seeeeee. Meanwhile I’ll keep wearing form fitting stuff because in my 30s I still have the form to do it. Not sure I will on the return 😂


Johnny_Menace

Gen Z can kiss my ass, will keep rocking 512’s till the end of time.


sunqiller

Lmao you couldn't pay me to "flock to tiktok"


DoublePostedBroski

I love how Gen Z thinks they invented baggy clothes.


steampunkIcarus

This is one of the biggest "online" vs "IRL" divide I've seen in awhile. All over fashion twitter/IG it's constant baggy fits and anti-slimmer fits, while in reality 99% of the men I see are still wearing slimmer pants.


94cg

Yeah that’s the norm for fashion, skinny jeans are now the ‘standard’ and have been around ages. 30-50 year olds have had them as their uniform for the last 15 years. If you’re looking at anyone under 25 skinny jeans are very rare, especially for fashion forward people. I’m in my late 20s and it’s pretty rare to see anyone in my wider circle (in Montreal) wearing anything close to skinny jeans. And when you do it feels like me seeing my mums friends dressing like it’s still the 80s when I was kid in the late 90s.


axkoam

Looks like the several pairs of slightly too big chinos that I haven't worn since pre-pandemic are back on the menu boys


SpicyAbe

Nothing like a good pair of skinny jeans. RIP if 90s bagginess+sagginess ever comes back


marginwalker55

As a 40 year old workin’ Dad, I’ve proudly graduated to sweats and not paying attention to anything other than comfort.


OldClunkyRobot

JNCOs are back baby! Give me a holler when they bring back Zubaz pants.