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khaldrakon

The character isn't Indian though, he's an alien/synthetic being created by Celestials


DemonGuyver

It wouldn’t make headlines if they were honest…


doinkxx

It’s a reddit post sparking a conversation. No headlines were made.


DemonGuyver

I’m not talking about the result but the intention of the wording


Kjmich

It's a post from r/shittymoviedetails fyi, it's not sparking anything


GodOfArk

But his secret identity was as an indian actor


Montblanc_Norland

And Henry Cavill is a British guy who played a space alien brought up in America. Acting.


[deleted]

And rdj once played a guy disguised as a guy playing a guy or something


DeltaV-Mzero

WHAT DO YOU MEAN, “YOU PEOPLE?!”


Montblanc_Norland

Classic Chaplin quote.


Montblanc_Norland

Have you seen his Chaplin movie (Chaplin (1992))? Pretty good.


SunfireElfAmaya

He was a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!


Training_Smile

That was actually a trade worked out between the u.s. and u.k. A Britt plays Superman and an american playes Sherlock Holmes.


Citizen_Kong

And that Brit then also played Sherlock Holmes which means RDJ has to play Superman in the new DCU now, I think.


NicklAAAAs

We have had TWO British Spider-Men.


tobey-maguire-bot

You're an embarrassment!


bitchperfect2

2 of our 3 Peter Parker’s were British.


khaldrakon

No that was his cover identity, what he pretended to be so that people wouldn't find out about his real/secret identity, a multi-thousand-year old super powered being from space


doomsday10009

Yes, because it's secret, you can fake it.


JohnMarstonSucks

If I had to make the choice, I would rather be Indian than Pakistani as well. Even Ms Marvel with its strong Pakistani tone filmed its Karachi scenes in Thailand.


[deleted]

I feel like you have a choice to make, and it how human your going to be when approaching the topic. Humans are the most genetically simular beings known on the face of the planet. That means anything could have been reversed, and It would all be the same anyway.


Tough_Patient

Except in this case it would literally be the same because they are divided by religion and politics, not ethnicity.


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Right


Cfunk_83

Then then should have found a synthetic being created by celestial to play him. They’re sorely underrepresented. Stop human-washing Hollywood!


Shadowkiva

Kingo is older than Bharat though so does it matter? In the movie he was Kingo before India was India


PhantasosX

I mean , if we go deeper...."Kingo" is a corruptive name of "Kingu" , which is a mesopotamian god. So , you could say a pakistani actor portraying a mesopotamian , while still not the right etnicity , is still closer than an indian.


doomsday10009

You couldn't because it doesn't matter. Eternals don't have nationalities.


[deleted]

Correct! Also, humans are humans! Not black or brown or Pakistani or Indi, just humans. It's scientifically proven that we all share 99% of our genetic code with each other, regardless of nationalities or ethnicity.


Longjumping-Ad-7967

99% is an understatement. We share 99% of our DNA with a lettuce


fingernail3

Geneticist here - this false. We share just less than 99% with chimpanzees, 98% with gorillas, 97% with orangutans - and the number becomes smaller the more diverged the species considered. We share about 70% with gastropods (slugs and the like), 45% with insects, and maybe 25% with plants...


Longjumping-Ad-7967

I will take this as another reminder not to trust the first result on google every time


fingernail3

No worries! To be fair it really depends on how you define what it means to 'share DNA' - the percentages I used are roughly what you'd get from looking at the level of sequence divergence. If you were use to a more lenient metric - such as what proportion of protein encoding genes we'd share - you could say that plants and animals share about 50-60% of their genes. It's possible the website you were using was referencing the DNA sequence of a particular gene or set of genes - there are some genes which are somewhat highly conserved across all Eukaryotes, or (to a lesser extent) across all living things.


Alusan

You are knowledgeable AND merciful, oh wise one!


scubamaster

But instead to trust the random Reddit person?


OverlordOfPancakes

Huh, why would someone lie on the internet?


JvKlaus

We are pretty close to pigs to, right?


RickFletching

Did my wife send you? I said I will do the dishes, and I *will!!* Just, you know, tomorrow.


Small_Tone_4812

(yes...ssshhhh) 🐷


Zestyclose_Standard6

Did you ever stop to think that the comment you are responding so rudely to might have been written by a broccoli? DiD yOu KnOw ThAt *geneticists* share 99% of their *conclusions* with *frogs*!?! Because you both are great at jumping blindly to them!!!! (please read this out loud in a wildly condescending voice while flailing your arms around dramatically for the full effect)


[deleted]

Good point, we are more like 99.6 with a 0.4 percent variation, which accounts for about 12 million base pairs of human beings. The ratio in which humans are similar to each other is by far greater than any other being known to humanity. What this essentially means is that there are no separate breeds of human like there are separate breeds of chimpanzees and dogs. Humans are a convergant species, meaning our late ancestors such as Neanderthal and Denisovan have breed into the gene pool to the point that their leniage is completely diluted with human DNA.


Thomo251

The UK even had a lettuce as Prime Minister for 49 days because we are so similar.


JayNotAtAll

Ya, I always assumed that they were "ethnicity-less" in the MCU canon. I mean they are also manufactured beings too.


Schnickie

It's not a Mesopotamien though, it's an Alien from space who different human civilisations worshipped. He looked like that at the beginning of the movie, before there was a Mesopotamian civilisation.


ImurderREALITY

Their names are just names.


[deleted]

The meme is stupid io several levels. Kingo is not Indian, he is an Eternal that was living there. The Eternals were modelled after various ethnicities around Earth and were on Earth before either India or Pakistan existed.


Full-Peak

Or he is just an actor doing a job?


No_Whammies_Stop

He’s an actor, acting like an actor. The post almost presumes that he has to be Indian because only Indians are allowed to be actors in Bollywood. I’m not sure if it’s meta or hypocrisy, or really worth thinking about at all.


Hackleton

Get this. Hugh Jackman is from Australia. He plays Wolwerine who is canadian. I don't see anyone complaining about that.


HalfFrozenSpeedos

he's also 6 foot 3 inches tall, an entire foot taller than Wolverine is in the comics.


bridgeetta920

Yeah! How dare he be so tall and handsome! They didn't even try to be honest!


summer-civilian

Wolverine is not supposed to be tall. It's a defining trait of the character.


Ignaciodelsol

He is the best and worst thing that happened to wolverine. Logan is supposed to be a short hairy man with a complex about it which plays into the “love triangle” in that he really doesn’t see himself as a match for Jean. Being Hunkzilla from junk land kinda blows through the nuance of his character. Also the reason colossus picks him up and throws him at people only works if he’s 5’1, it’s weird if he’s 6’2


Jimmie_Stain_Hayley

I actually have heard people complain about this lolol


Tough_Patient

Tbf it's a valid argument when he's supposed to be portraying a little unstoppable toad of a man.


JaceVentura69

>a little unstoppable toad of a man. I will never not use this to describe wolverine from now on


Training_Smile

Toad is a whole different dude.


[deleted]

You know what happens when lightning strikes a toad?


WD_G

The same thing that happens to everything else


[deleted]

>a little unstoppable wolverine of a man. Fixed it for you. Wolverines are known for being tiny ferocious animals, and that also describes (feral) Logan.


Souledex

Cause it’s actually a really important part of the character. Beyond that for representative reasons, how many short men are portrayed as strong, and to be respected and feared in the vein of a superhero. There’s plenty of variance between normal height and tall, and basically just maybe Spiderman and Wolverine on the other side. I’m not that short but it’s come to my attention more and more how dismissive the culture is of basically any man below average height in lots of ways.


Discoballer42

It does sorta bother me. He’s not small enough for the fastball special.


HanTrollo710

And Bradley Cooper blatantly pretends to be a raccoon. But where is the outrage?


DapperHeretic

Get this. Chris Hemsworth is from Australia. He plays Thor who is Asgardian. I don't see anyone complaining about that.


thor-odinson-bot

There is a maniac who seeks to end us all.


Training_Smile

No. He's just a redditor.


WD_G

Yeah, Thor's just overreacting


thor-odinson-bot

Heimdall!


Responsible_Neck_728

I think the article is referencing the Indian-Pakistani conflicts and tensions. I don’t think there’s a similar situation between Australia and Canada.


Tough_Patient

The emus were supplied by Canadian arms corporations!


dreadassassin616

My uncle fought in the emu war, said you could tell they were coming because they smelled of tim Hortons.


stevethos

Rumour has it that Canada refuses to export maple syrup to Australia. Tensions are high.


Noob1cl3

True. This is for sure an outrage and I want heads.


flintlock0

Well I am now. /s


tabakista

Oh, let's go that way. Do you guys remember Highlander? An Egyptian, with a Spanish name, a Japanese sword played by a Scott. And there was a Scottish character in this movie. Played by a French-American


AdmiralScavenger

They both have the Queen on their money so is there really any difference? (sarcasm)


petje95

I also don't see anyone complaining about Samuel Jackson playing Nick Furry, who was originally white. As long as the actor is good I don't think we should focus on that. They even made Morgan Freeman play God multiple times and I'm pretty sure he did a great job.


Particular_Holiday_1

Even crazier, in the comics, Kingo wears Japanese samurai armor...


Majestic-Marcus

Well yeah, samurai armour looks cool


stevent4

Depends on the era, some of the earlier ones look like they're trying to cosplay someone from Minecraft


shesalive_dammit

I first saw this meme on r/shittymoviedetails, so it was intended to be a troll post that someone took a bit too seriously 🙄 Edit: mispeling


InfamousCRS

Honestly disgusted that they didn’t cast an Eternal to represent one in this documentary


BananaBladeOfDoom

They also didn't cast a Celestial to play Ego. Smh these lazy casting directors.


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Djafar79

I was furious and in tears when I saw Gamora being portrayed by a black woman instead of by either Greedo or Kermit The Frog.


Deinonychus2012

Maclunky!


Djafar79

Probably.


BLADE_OF_AlUR

Bantha poodoo!


Noob1cl3

Well… maybe they should have gotten someone green. Can we find this?


SufficientResort6836

So Ryan Reynolds (a Canadian) shouldn’t play any US characters?


Unique_Quit_100

And Hugh Jackman (aussie) shouldn't play any canadian character.


RugSnuff

Wait til you hear of Canadians playing U.S. citizens.


G0-N0G0-GO

Do *not* get me started on the “Maple-washing” of American roles. Yes, they’re polite people, but it’s just not right.


alejandro_kirk

Sorry eh


G0-N0G0-GO

Two things: 1. Saying sorry doesn’t magically make it okay; 2. Apology accepted. You’re very kind, and I wish you all the best! *Dammit, the Canucks got me again!*


Training_Smile

Mother Canuckers!


22LegendaryTacos

Kudos for “maple-washing”. It’s canon now.


Ylurpn

"Depsite only making up 6% of North americas population, canadians..."


squiddy555

Are very sorry eh?


Vaccinate_your_kids2

Make up for 69% of apologies sais throughout the year


Altruistic-Cod5969

"They're polite, but it's not right" Ya'll even got a protest slogan. We're ruined.


Racnous

Hey, they let an Australian play Wolverine! No American can understand that pain!


khaldrakon

Or Brits playing Americans


Hour-Process-3292

Or Americans playing Brits


HalfFrozenSpeedos

Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins \*shudder\*


grumpykruppy

Amazing actor, loved his character, but that accent was horrible.


HalfFrozenSpeedos

Yeah nice man by all accounts but he murdered that accent....


RugSnuff

House M.D.


Warm-Finance8400

He's not Indian. He's a robot designed by gods


Ogurasyn

Kumail was designed by gods? Kinda makes sense, given his looks /hj


peteflix66

So he's a robot in disguise?


Gilthu

Out of curiosity, are there Pakistani actors in Bollywood? A quick google search finds 47+ actors in Bollywood or Hindi Cinema who identify as being of Pakistani origin, so get the hell off your soap box.


Everything_Good2202

They used to be in Bollywood but not anymore due to certain situations


Sofosio

Or he is just a god actor, and that's why they hired him


posthuman04

Well and Pakistan was part of India within living memory.


Strange_username__

The character is from space and lives in India, besides, Pakistan used to be part of India so in eternal time it’s been about a week since they were the same thing.


typi_314

Yeah, I was about to say, even though they hate each other now, they were the same country. The largest human migration in history was when they split after WWII


Nosoulsworld

Question. Is it offensive when a British person plays an American? I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find Chinese actors playing other asian roles in their regional movies.


Salty_Negotiation688

Michelle Yeoh is Malaysian and plays Chinese in half her roles. Takeshi Kaneshiro also starred in mostly Hong Kong produced films and is, you guessed it, Japanese. There's also a huuuuge historical and political beef between Japan and China to address the other reply you got. And I live in China. Trust me, they don't give a fuck. To your point, I don't get offended as a British person when someone else plays a Brit. It's only rage-click-baity websites and the very most extreme of the American left wing that push this narrative.


Slavocracy

I hate this trend so fucking much. Edit: actors do not need to be the same race or nationality of fictional characters. End of story.


AgentP20

What trend?


Slavocracy

That actors NEED to be the race/nationality of whoever they're portraying. It literally only matters in historically accurate movies and documentaries.


AgentP20

I thought you were talking about the opposite. Carry on.


Slavocracy

Oh you're right I see why


Tiny-Butterscotch149

No, this is because Kumail is a good actor and people like him


newvpnwhodis

He was the best thing about that movie.


flashspoke

Pakistani Denzel


fawd1290

Tom Holland...


Particular-Alps-5001

Ik it’s fucked up that they didn’t get an actor who can actually swing on webs


Noob1cl3

Absolutely the problem.


djscott95

Op, how is it a valid point?


zainr23

As an Indian I will say: who cares and why does it matter? It’s not like all Indians will be getting paid if we had an Indian actor. Kumail got his money and he didn’t care


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Dribbler365

And spider-man is played by a british guy, people find anything to complain about these days…


Dpepps

Kingo was a robot. Robots don't have nationalities.


random_guyman

Why don’t people just try shutting the fuck up for once?


[deleted]

Oh man I am so tired of this shit


Snoo-72438

Wait until they hear about Christian Bale


Calcain

Tom Holland - Brit playing an American. Benedict cucumber - Brit playing an American Hugh Jackman - Australian playing Canadian Chris Hemsworth - Australian playing a Nordic Viking Scarlet Johansson - American playing a Russian Florence Pugh - Brit playing a Russian Elizabeth Olsen - American playing a.. Serbian? The list goes on.


Striker274

Technically he’s an alien robot… who lives in India. Next you’ll tell me Tropic thunder couldn’t be bothered to get an actual actor to do black face and so got Robert Downey Jr


Rymetris

Thank you! This comment is way too far down...


matande31

We're just ignoring the fact that we have 2 brits playing Americans? 3 if you count vision.


mathliability

Op has to be trolling


Ringrangzilla

No its not a valid point in anyway what so ever. Its just really stupid. Considering there are still people who were alive before Pakistan and India even were separate countrys. The country Pakistan is under a hundred years old. So "ethnicly" they are basicly the same. Complaining that a Pakistani is playing an Indian is like complaining that a norwegian is played by a sweed. But if it really was that important to get a true Indian, thats basicly meaningless considering there are over 705 different ethnic groups in Indian, so no one actor could represent them all anyways. And this is not even mentioning the fact that the guy don’t even play a fucking Indian anyway, his character was an enternal aka a imortal alien predateing human civilization. TL;DR Its not a valid point because the character he play is not actually Indian. And even if he hadd been it would be perfectly fine for a Pakistani to play an Indian.


Pigeon_Chess

Wait until they find out Pakistan was part of India until fairly recently and the ethnicity is the same and it’s all part of the Indian subcontinent


DabIMON

He's literally from space.


Slowmobius_Time

He plays an immortal robot, not an Indian


Shaikh_9

He's not supposed to be an "Indian" in the Eternals, he's just a famous Bollywood actor. Pre-1947, the South Asian subcontinent was known as Hindustan and was established in the ~11th century. Kingo is 7000 years old, so even if he represents an ethnicity from that area, it doesn't really matter when it comes down to the current modern day borders.


ogreofnorth

Funny thing. Pakistan was part of India until 1947. So technically Pakistanis were Indians. So…. Yeah. Ms. Marvel actually taught me something and made me learn more lol.


HamsterUnfair6313

People are just upset that he represented Bollywood dance numbers poorly. Bollywood dance numbers are way better than what eternals showed us.


PJGraphicNovel

But like… didn’t Pakistan and India used to be one country and was only separated like 70 years ago?


rock_n_roll_clown

> Bjorloff Beornson, a Norweigan actor, plays the role of a Finnish man in *Movie* Please just shut up


Next_Faithlessness87

Well, I mean, He's not Indian, technically, is he? He's a fucking space robot made by gods.


Finbar_Bileous

I mean I’m Irish and if we had an English dude playing the *only* Irish guy in a piece I’d be extremely pissed unless he was literally going to Daniel Day Lewis in *In The Name of the Father* levels of crushing it.


Noob1cl3

Honest question - do you guys think india and china get this concerned about authentic ethnicity / diversity in their respective industries?


Boring-Zucchini-8515

Kingo isn’t even an Indian. He’s a freaking alien.


doomsday10009

Eternals are not from Earth, they don't have nationalities or races. This post is stupid.


kaminaowner2

He did a great job


DoubleNothing

It's called acting... and you pretend to be SOMEONE ELSE... Grow up with this "characters have to be the same ethnicity, color or whatever". Complain if he/she didn't play the part satisfactorily.


Donk454

You do realise he has no nationality, he’s an inter dimensional robot


Illuvatar-Stranger

I think you should shut up


ThatShadyJack

It’s crazy, sometimes actors act as different characters


Erikthered65

TIL Indians come from space.


PlasticKitchen2229

He was just a brown eternal who decided to live in India. Not someone of indian descent lol


We_lived

I dunno. Lots of Brits play Germans, Americans play Ugandan presidents and on it goes. Way too much attention given to this.


IdyllicGod22

Wait till this guy hears they decided to make an AUSTRALIAN play a Scandinavian Norse God!!! Abhorrent!!!


FromGergaWithLove

From my work, I knew a dozen of Indian and Pakistani colleagues. You guys should know more than anybody else how close you are and how it is exclusively the white man fault that you are apart. I really wish for all my Indian and Pakistani friends to just accept that they were a unit before, and they can just stop the whole hate each other shit.


[deleted]

It never ceases to annoy me that a fucking French-American actor plays the Highlander and the foreign character is played by an actual Scottish actor. No justice for my people


Boring-Zucchini-8515

Don’t a bunch of British and Canadians play American characters? Yeah this isn’t much of a point.


SUPER_QUOOL

As a pakistani myself im saying that pakistanis are literally indians but with extra steps. And if you've seen Ms.Marvel, you'll know that i mean "extra steps" in a literal sense


doomsday10009

Eternals are not from Earth, they don't have nationalities or races. This post is stupid.


CounterfeitSaint

My Grandmother told me, I don't care what they teach you in school, Kingo was Indian.


zoroddesign

Technically, the character is an immortal alien robot. If they found someone neon green, it would be more racially accurate.


WaffleWarrior1979

Or… and hear me out…. Who gives a shit?


Caledon_Echo

How can he be an Indian Eternal when he came to Earth before India existed? JFC do you people stop and think for two seconds?


ShiroHachiRoku

He’s not even a real sentient pseudo robot AI creation in real life.


drew8311

I couldn't even tell, he's that good of an actor!


kuang89

Just like Thor is Norwegian but has an Aussie accent with a Welsh dad, and a Brit brother.


talkofphilly

India and Pakinstan were one country until pretty recently. They are related ethnicities within the two countries.


SRJT16

Everett Ross and Doctor Strange are American characters played by English actors “because Marvel were too lazy to actually find 2 American guys out of 300 million people to play an American character. 🙄


Sinlord5

Who. Gives. A. Fuck.


[deleted]

To be fair, he is American Citizen and Marvel is American company. Also Kingo is a cosmic-powered member of the community of genetically engineered Eternals. Created by the Celestials in the World Forge. There was no India at the time he was created LOL


wombat_cubed

Ok as long as Dinesh gets fewer points than Gilfoyle.


milkstrike

And it’s not like Pakistan and India were the same country until recently or anything


rjsh927

That criticism is more valid for Silicone Valley show. This movie he is an alien. on second thought this could be valid if Marvel tried to appeal and market it as Indian actor. Did they?


ipyalia

This is the same energy as complaining that they cast a white American to play a white British person.


onyourrite

Pakistan was once a part of India, and since he’s an Eternal he’s been around for longer than either nation so it doesn’t really matter 💀


TheRealBingBing

He's playing an alien artificial lifeform, he has no race/nationality


Certain-Necessary347

Wait til you find out they cast humans to play aliens!


i_like_surviving_yay

He was not Indian actually. HE WAS A FRICKING ETERNAL WHO LIVED IN INDIA FOR A BRIEF MOMENT. God please just watch the movie once before writing whatever you like


ReturnOfTheDot

he doesn’t play an “indian”. his backstory dates back to the 1930’s prior to partition, during the British Raj, when Pakistanis and Indians all lived under the British crown and were all still considered Indian.


CamJMurray

Wait so you’re telling me that the character of Yoda ISN’T played a hairy green midget???? Life is ruined.


redbrezel

That dude has the most punchable face ever


amohogride

There is so many people with jaundice and they didnt brother casting one to play as Adam Warlock


Pranavn8

I mean, they're basically the same and also look similar. Pakistan was once part of India. P.s. I am an Indian


drawkcaB_racecaR_yaS

Fuck that you cast who you want who gives a fuck if everyone playing a role is exactly the person they're playing It's called acting not roleplaying yourself for fun in a make believe world


sightssk

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/13i3nme/kumail_nanjiani_a_pakistani_actor_plays_the_role/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Look another one but reverse https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/13lr52a/in_the_tv_show_ms_marvel2022_an_indian_actor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Watchman74

Beside the fact none of those characters really exist, it’s called “acting” for a reason. Stop this nonsense.