Regenerative ag has no actual meaning outside of rodale institute and a few other businesses or non profits trying make farmers pay to get their private seal of approval. It's simply there to make end users feel like they're doing something good by consuming it. There is no USDA definition of "regenerative ag" . BUY ORGANIC.
I only grow weed in my basement and pumpkins to impress the local hoodlums on Halloween but even i know you have to protect the soil in winter. Its absolutely insane to me how many farmers seem to just operate with blinders on....not just the lack of cover crops either, seems like almost every fence line that had a tree or two has been removed since my childhood, would another dust bowl some how benefit farmers in a way i dont understand?
Wooo! As a cannabis grower with a living soil, no-till set up, I love to see low-till regenerative ag!! Spread the good word and let's get these fields covered!
They will just clear cut them to get more acreage.I grew up in Renville County, almost every single grove or tree line I used to explore in our area has been clear cut so they can get 5 more acres of corn / soybeans / beets.
No doubt. I hate telling ppl what to do but I’d be all for forced tree planting along state highways. They’ll place and maintain 300 miles of Barb wire fence…why not trees.
Although at this point it's more like, sell off all the farmland, we've got subdivisions and golf courses to build! Next-gen farmers? Who cares about them?
Even behind the paywall, you can see the article **describing the "snirt:" black topsoil on snow**.
This isn't salt brine from roads. It's black dirt being blown from the farmers' fields.
**If farmers hate it, it's on them to fix it.**
A sign of human demise. Destroy landcover, then be amazed at the loss of fertility of the emancipated soil. Agribusiness is elated as their market grows while the farmer responds to his neglect with greater chemical inputs to mitigate his bad practices.
Leave crop debris on the field, asshole.
It's not your land. It's in your hands to care for....temporarily. Treat it as a priceless family heirloom to be passed on.
I'm all for pollution control and runoff control, especially for games in the Mississippi River basin, but let's keep the train on the tracks.Cows eat that corn not folks. Lots of farmers need to do better with windbreaks and filtering/buffer strips aside their properties though
I can't say for sure, but the USDA inspects meats for things like this that are sold in stores. If it passes this I'd bet it's probably fine for you. But I'm not an expert on bovine digestion and pollutants
Most of the corn grown is for animal feed, ethanol, or high fructose corn syrup. Most of it is not directly eaten by humans, but indirectly through corn syrup or animals we eat that ate corn feed.
It's not for human consumption generally, it's for cattle. A very small portion of the corn grown in the US goes towards corn tortillas and other food products.
Yes I absolutely agree, we eat a lot of corn products. What I'm saying is that the vast majority of corn fields that you see and that are affected by this are for livestock or ethanol. The vast majority of corn grown in the US is not for human consumption.
Pollutants absolutely do make it into livestock feed and the livestock themselves, though I don't know the specifics of how they digest or are affected by said pollutants. I would wager if you buy your meat from the store it passes USDA inspection for things like this.
This is something farmers need to be forced into being better about, creating filter and buffer strips outside of their fields to catch their own runoff as well as incoming pollutants.
[USDA corn stats](https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/corn-and-other-feed-grains/feed-grains-sector-at-a-glance/#:~:text=Feed%20use%2C%20a%20derived%20demand,of%20total%20domestic%20corn%20use.)
Are you talking about white flour corn? That's generally not grown in MN. Nearly all the field corn is dent corn here, with sweet corn and some popcorn grown too.
Maybe stop growing crap like corn and soybeans using outdated tilling techniques and the snow wouldn't be black. Although if they don't grow the crap, they likely won't be able to collect government subsidy handouts.
I retract my snarky comment, the tiny flakes of rubber from tires mix and make it ok. Brake dust also makes it better, and smog.
EDIT: I spelled cadmium wrong.
My strip tillage fields with cover crops dont have black snow :-)
YASSS! THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPY. keep the regenerative ag movement going!
Regenerative ag has no actual meaning outside of rodale institute and a few other businesses or non profits trying make farmers pay to get their private seal of approval. It's simply there to make end users feel like they're doing something good by consuming it. There is no USDA definition of "regenerative ag" . BUY ORGANIC.
Organic farming tills too much and conventional sprays too much. Check out Gabe brown
Check out their yields! Organic no till doesn't pay the bills. Conventional sprays their problems away. I farm organically.
I only grow weed in my basement and pumpkins to impress the local hoodlums on Halloween but even i know you have to protect the soil in winter. Its absolutely insane to me how many farmers seem to just operate with blinders on....not just the lack of cover crops either, seems like almost every fence line that had a tree or two has been removed since my childhood, would another dust bowl some how benefit farmers in a way i dont understand?
What kind of herbicide do you use???
Wooo! As a cannabis grower with a living soil, no-till set up, I love to see low-till regenerative ag!! Spread the good word and let's get these fields covered!
Plant some damn trees along the road and get back to me
They will just clear cut them to get more acreage.I grew up in Renville County, almost every single grove or tree line I used to explore in our area has been clear cut so they can get 5 more acres of corn / soybeans / beets.
No doubt. I hate telling ppl what to do but I’d be all for forced tree planting along state highways. They’ll place and maintain 300 miles of Barb wire fence…why not trees.
I know so many people that did this in Norman County.
Yup let’s just tear out every fucking tree and drain every goddamn slough we can, need that extra couple of acres in farmland!!! 🙄
Although at this point it's more like, sell off all the farmland, we've got subdivisions and golf courses to build! Next-gen farmers? Who cares about them?
No-till farming + cover crops = helps with the snirt
The fuck is snow?
Legends tell tales of "snow"
Even behind the paywall, you can see the article **describing the "snirt:" black topsoil on snow**. This isn't salt brine from roads. It's black dirt being blown from the farmers' fields. **If farmers hate it, it's on them to fix it.**
Hmmmmm maybe they can get a subsidy to do it. Then they would do something
Wind erosion mostly. Loss of topsoil because of no cover left after the crop year. It has nothing to do with "nasty chemicals and substances".
A sign of human demise. Destroy landcover, then be amazed at the loss of fertility of the emancipated soil. Agribusiness is elated as their market grows while the farmer responds to his neglect with greater chemical inputs to mitigate his bad practices. Leave crop debris on the field, asshole. It's not your land. It's in your hands to care for....temporarily. Treat it as a priceless family heirloom to be passed on.
Oh yea snirt in my pussy
Think of all of the nasty chemicals and substances that coat the underside of your car. Would you want those in the fields that grow the corn you eat?
You generally don't eat field corn
Isn't some sort of corn ingredient in pretty much every kind of processed food?
Shh, let them wallow in their manufactured outrage
I'm all for pollution control and runoff control, especially for games in the Mississippi River basin, but let's keep the train on the tracks.Cows eat that corn not folks. Lots of farmers need to do better with windbreaks and filtering/buffer strips aside their properties though
Folks eat that corn when they eat the cows that ate that corn.
I can't say for sure, but the USDA inspects meats for things like this that are sold in stores. If it passes this I'd bet it's probably fine for you. But I'm not an expert on bovine digestion and pollutants
I'm gonna bet you've had a tortilla in your lifetime
Most of the corn grown is for animal feed, ethanol, or high fructose corn syrup. Most of it is not directly eaten by humans, but indirectly through corn syrup or animals we eat that ate corn feed.
It's not for human consumption generally, it's for cattle. A very small portion of the corn grown in the US goes towards corn tortillas and other food products.
Most Americans do eat corn products, so saying that people generally don't eat field corn is wrong. Never mind concentrating pollutants in livestock
Yes I absolutely agree, we eat a lot of corn products. What I'm saying is that the vast majority of corn fields that you see and that are affected by this are for livestock or ethanol. The vast majority of corn grown in the US is not for human consumption. Pollutants absolutely do make it into livestock feed and the livestock themselves, though I don't know the specifics of how they digest or are affected by said pollutants. I would wager if you buy your meat from the store it passes USDA inspection for things like this. This is something farmers need to be forced into being better about, creating filter and buffer strips outside of their fields to catch their own runoff as well as incoming pollutants. [USDA corn stats](https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/corn-and-other-feed-grains/feed-grains-sector-at-a-glance/#:~:text=Feed%20use%2C%20a%20derived%20demand,of%20total%20domestic%20corn%20use.)
But MN still is usually ranked 1st or 2nd in sweet corn production as well.
Are you talking about white flour corn? That's generally not grown in MN. Nearly all the field corn is dent corn here, with sweet corn and some popcorn grown too.
It's in your ketchup. High fructose corn syrup. You eat it all the time!
The dirt is more healthy that corn syrup
Don't they put plenty of chemicals in their fields anyways? I mean look at the Minnesota River from all the farm runoff.
Its almost like different chemicals have different effects on the human body
Yea I eat so much field corn
Modern dust bowlerama
Maybe stop growing crap like corn and soybeans using outdated tilling techniques and the snow wouldn't be black. Although if they don't grow the crap, they likely won't be able to collect government subsidy handouts.
Wait, so when we "salt the earth" 3/4 of the year, that's bad?
I retract my snarky comment, the tiny flakes of rubber from tires mix and make it ok. Brake dust also makes it better, and smog. EDIT: I spelled cadmium wrong.
But contaminating rivers and lakes with runoff is A-ok right guys?