There are dozens of uncontrolled intersections all throughout the university district, North side, South hills, etc...
McCleod and Hilda
Gerald and Evans <-- that's the corner of a school yard, no stop signs.
Keep your head up and pay attention. Navigating uncontrolled intersections should have been taught in driver's ed.
To Op's credit, it's not something that's seen that often in other places, so for someone new to the city it's wild. As a freshman at UM many moons ago I was befuddled the first 10 times I came across these in intersections.
The reality is, Missoula’s roads are used by lots of people from places where the concept of an uncontrolled intersection does not exist. It’s cool to have unique food, music, architecture, sights etc, but bespoke traffic laws are generally a bad idea. It’s genuinely confusing to yield to the right at one intersection (while praying that oncoming drivers know the law) and then yield to the left at the next one just because the city decided to put a concrete planter in the center. Bring on the downvotes but IMO they should be converting these to roundabouts or putting in stop signs.
you still yield to the right at the small neighborhood circles. only yield to people already in the roundabouts (to the left) at the larger ones on the main roads
not sure about law, but i've seen them defined differently and described in the city's [public works manual](https://www.ci.missoula.mt.us/DocumentCenter/View/62747/Chapter-7-Transportation?bidId=)
There are a few uncontrolled intersections like that in Missoula that are incredibly dangerous. I was in a very serious accident as a teenager in one of them and when I went before the judge for failure to yield to a car on the right (I didn’t know uncontrolled intersections were a thing because they weren’t where I was from and I had just moved there) and the judge said that he had seen a lot of accidents from that same intersection.
I have lived here most of my life and never heard this before. I thought they were treated like 4-way stops minus the actual stopping--you yield to the right. Also, what about the Slant Streets?
Yea that person and whoever upvoted them are flat out wrong, and that’s scary.
Driver to the right has right of way. We relying on people having geographic awareness of their current cardinal direction?
"When approaching one of these unmarked intersections, you are not required to stop, but **you are required to yield to any traffic coming from your right**." It's called "right" of way, not east/west way. But first and foremost always drive defensively.
[https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/uncontrolled-intersections](https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/uncontrolled-intersections)
# How to Enter an Uncontrolled Intersection
There are **five right-of-way rules** when entering an uncontrolled intersection:
* The vehicle that arrived first has the right-of-way
* **If two or more vehicles arrive at roughly the same time, drivers on the left must yield to drivers on the right**
* If you are turning left, yield to oncoming traffic even if you arrived first
* Yield to traffic and [pedestrians](https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/sharing-the-road-with-pedestrians) already in or about to enter the intersection
* If both you and an oncoming vehicle are turning left, you can turn without yielding by passing in front of each otherHow to Enter an Uncontrolled Intersection There are five right-of-way rules when entering an uncontrolled intersection: The vehicle that arrived first has the right-of-way If two or more vehicles arrive at roughly the same time, drivers on the left must yield to drivers on the right If you are turning left, yield to oncoming traffic even if you arrived first Yield to traffic and pedestrians already in or about to enter the intersection If both you and an oncoming vehicle are turning left, you can turn without yielding by passing in front of each other
There is no rule of thumb here. Traffic rules literally are "yield to drivers on the right". The fact that it is "right" of way and yield to the "right" is purely coincidence.
There are dozens of uncontrolled intersections all throughout the university district, North side, South hills, etc... McCleod and Hilda Gerald and Evans <-- that's the corner of a school yard, no stop signs. Keep your head up and pay attention. Navigating uncontrolled intersections should have been taught in driver's ed.
I think Gerald and Evans is a 4-way stop now
Might be. It's not on street view.
Montana Title 61. Motor Vehicles § 61-8-207. Traffic control signal legend
To Op's credit, it's not something that's seen that often in other places, so for someone new to the city it's wild. As a freshman at UM many moons ago I was befuddled the first 10 times I came across these in intersections.
I lived in seven different states and never saw this except on the little gravel roads out in the middle of wheat fields in Kansas.
Do you not understand what an uncontrolled intersection is??
Never been an issue.
Called an uncontrolled intersection You shouldn't be driving if you don't know what that is or what to do when you approach one.
The reality is, Missoula’s roads are used by lots of people from places where the concept of an uncontrolled intersection does not exist. It’s cool to have unique food, music, architecture, sights etc, but bespoke traffic laws are generally a bad idea. It’s genuinely confusing to yield to the right at one intersection (while praying that oncoming drivers know the law) and then yield to the left at the next one just because the city decided to put a concrete planter in the center. Bring on the downvotes but IMO they should be converting these to roundabouts or putting in stop signs.
you still yield to the right at the small neighborhood circles. only yield to people already in the roundabouts (to the left) at the larger ones on the main roads
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not sure about law, but i've seen them defined differently and described in the city's [public works manual](https://www.ci.missoula.mt.us/DocumentCenter/View/62747/Chapter-7-Transportation?bidId=)
I hope I never come across you on the roads, yield to the right in any form of traffic circle? Gtfoh
How can I say I haven’t lived here long with out saying it
Yield to the right.
Eh, more like first come first serve
> uncontrolled intersections You are both right?
Try that in court.
I live in the slant streets, the land of uncontrolled intersections…
There are a few uncontrolled intersections like that in Missoula that are incredibly dangerous. I was in a very serious accident as a teenager in one of them and when I went before the judge for failure to yield to a car on the right (I didn’t know uncontrolled intersections were a thing because they weren’t where I was from and I had just moved there) and the judge said that he had seen a lot of accidents from that same intersection.
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This has no basis in traffic law. It is wrong. Please do not rely on it.
I have lived here most of my life and never heard this before. I thought they were treated like 4-way stops minus the actual stopping--you yield to the right. Also, what about the Slant Streets?
Yea that person and whoever upvoted them are flat out wrong, and that’s scary. Driver to the right has right of way. We relying on people having geographic awareness of their current cardinal direction?
"When approaching one of these unmarked intersections, you are not required to stop, but **you are required to yield to any traffic coming from your right**." It's called "right" of way, not east/west way. But first and foremost always drive defensively.
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Sure. But a good rule of thumb is to yield to the driver on your right. It’s a handy mnemonic.
One and the same. To your right. Right?
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[https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/uncontrolled-intersections](https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/uncontrolled-intersections) # How to Enter an Uncontrolled Intersection There are **five right-of-way rules** when entering an uncontrolled intersection: * The vehicle that arrived first has the right-of-way * **If two or more vehicles arrive at roughly the same time, drivers on the left must yield to drivers on the right** * If you are turning left, yield to oncoming traffic even if you arrived first * Yield to traffic and [pedestrians](https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/sharing-the-road-with-pedestrians) already in or about to enter the intersection * If both you and an oncoming vehicle are turning left, you can turn without yielding by passing in front of each otherHow to Enter an Uncontrolled Intersection There are five right-of-way rules when entering an uncontrolled intersection: The vehicle that arrived first has the right-of-way If two or more vehicles arrive at roughly the same time, drivers on the left must yield to drivers on the right If you are turning left, yield to oncoming traffic even if you arrived first Yield to traffic and pedestrians already in or about to enter the intersection If both you and an oncoming vehicle are turning left, you can turn without yielding by passing in front of each other There is no rule of thumb here. Traffic rules literally are "yield to drivers on the right". The fact that it is "right" of way and yield to the "right" is purely coincidence.
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Magnetic north is roughly 12° East in Missoula. The slant streets are roughly 45° off true north.
This is not a law and is not taught in any drivers ed
Or you know, the whole "right of way" thing.... You think most people can figure out north and south when they can't even use a roundabout properly?