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TruWarierRecords

Shawn Kemp, got fat during lockout and changed his entire game as a midrange post up specialist for a 20 ppg season with Cleveland. Became a role player the very next season.


Tanmanrules

I’m surprised no one has said Deron Williams


Askesl

Andre Drummond is the first that came to mind


Aware-Damage1061

Michael Carter Williams


-D-Mac-

Andrea Bargnani


thatis

Derrick Rose surely is up there. Though the question is obviously more interesting when looking at players not struck with serious injuries.


perkinsfor3

Chance Comanche


Pickleskennedy1

David Thompson, Marvin Barnes, Spencer Hayood, Micheal Ray Richardson, Len Bias, Roy Tarpley, Richard Dumas, Lamar Odom, OJ Mayo etc crack is a hell of a drug


bontomp

Bias: #2 pick then died 2 days later


KatarHero72

Out if line, but you're right.


dys0n_giddey

Ben Simmons is the obvious one


Uebelkraehe

That's Roy Hibbert's music!


2b_squared

Eddy Curry of 2007 was a 19.5/7.0 player who while didn't maybe look like a future franchise player, was still looking like a player that could be an awesome #2 player for team that wants to go deep. Eddy Curry of 2008 was someone that could have signed up for weight watchers and due to his poor shape, D'Antoni benched him. Two years from his near 20ppg season, he was barely seeing the floor and averaged only 1.7ppg. Andrew Bynum is another good one.


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GeoMDCM

I was coming here to say Michael Redd. But Goddamn, he was pretty fuckin good for a solid 8 seasons. How bout Andrew Bynum. That guy was supposed to be the next big thing. He had a few solid years, had a breakout all-star season, got injured and never came back.


V10Lada

Isaiah Thomas - one minute he's a back-to-back All-Star, killing it in the play-offs, playing through injuries, through tragedy, and expecting the "Brinks truck." Next minute, he's traded, coming back from injury too soon to prove himself, and now trying to fight his way back into the league.


River2DC

Proof karma doesnt exist Celtics did him dirty as hell


Dry_Ad_3215

Brandon Roy could have been one of the all-time greats. He was on track and then the injuries just stopped him in his tracks.


Ok_Argument_67

Benjamin David Simmons


silentbible

Ben Simmons. From all-star to unplayable after one playoff series.


NoResearch904

Grant Hill?


doordaesh

hibbert


Huubidi

Considering he just retired at 34, I feel like Kemba Walker's fall-off was surprisingly quick


RainierPC

Jordan Poole


Big_Buddy_3864

Roy hibbert


Makoto-ito

Danny Granger


KigaroGasoline

Gilbert Arenas. Went from “quirky all star” to “everything about that dude is a dumpster fire.” Entertaining all the way around, though.


Hungry-Class9806

Jeremy Lin is the first name I can think of. He was crazy and had everything to be one of the faces of the league and the NBA would gladly market him as such. Then he made that move to the Rockets and everything started to fall apart... Believe or not, we went from Linsanity to him getting out of the league in less than 8 years.


TidyJoe34

Latrell Spreewell


Dupp3h

DeMarcus Cousins


Spladook

Hassan Whiteside was a beast for the Heat, and then just vanished to Portland.


Definitelynotapopo

Hedo Turkoglu was a prize signing at one point..


Tropical2653

Not the most extreme case but Kemba Walker peaked in his late 20s being an all star from 2017-2020, and even got an all NBA 3rd team selection in 2019. But he was out of the league by 2023 and retired at 34. Harsh end to a career, with a harsh start as well, being stuck in Charlotte until he was 29. But peak Kemba was definitely a very good player. And incredibly entertaining to watch.


DolphinSouvlaki

Deron Williams. To this day, literally every time I see or hear the term “fall off” I imagine him. He should be getting royalties or something for it Blake Griffin also went from looking like he could be a perennial MVP candidate into an afterthought over the course of a couple of seasons.


kertikath

Jordan Poole He's the 3rd best player of the warriors and one punch from draymond made him go complete 180 I really hate that they made max contract on Green


Icy-Lime-9760

Hedo Turkoglu


StraightCashHomie89

Andrew Bynum fell off a cliff


caandjr

Iverson


talongee13

Larry Sanders


SkyLightTenki

I'm surprised nobody mentioned Larry Sanders. Barring injuries, he could still be playing this season.


Okurei

Deron Williams was "that guy" at one point, and then seemingly overnight turned into a role player. I still don't know what happened.


WhiskyDrinkinCowboy

Probably Russell Westbrook. Though I would say he was always overrated so perhaps the fall isn't that great.


DrGeraldBaskums

Not that he was ever a star, but Omer Asik lives in my head rent free. Had a good season with Houston, couple years later had a decent season with NOLA, somehow rewarded with a $60 mil contract and averaged 3 points a game the rest of his dumpster fire career


alphalobster200

Kenneth Faried was essentially the face of the post-Melo Nuggets and suddenly went from fan favorite to unplayable because the stat-dominated FO's considered him a liability due to his inability to protect the rim and shoot the 3.


Ordinary-Hopeful

Gilbert Arenas.


SixerForLife

Oladipo was superstar level that one year


capt_cd

Andrew Bynum


burns_before_reading

Jordan Poole would like a word


Atl-Fan_FTS

It’s gotta be Simmons


GunstarGreen

Dion Waiters. I know it's not the most noticabke but he went from a solid starter and scorer to quietly out of the NBA seemingly overnight


juvesown

Delonte West


kamezzle13

Theres been a ton of these guys, but I'm going to pick on the centers today. Andrew Bynum Roy Hibbert Greg Oden


needmoresleeep

Deng and Mozgov fell off very quickly once they got paid by the Lakers.


mysteryquackman

Idk why Danny Granger was the first to come to mind but he did for me. I know he dealt with injuries and then Paul George became the star, but he just disappeared.


sonos_subaru

John Wall


Andrew_Waples

Linsanity. Jermey Lin had like one week where he was amazing.


doubleoh72

Kemba Walker? The moment he left Charlotte, he became essentially unplayable


TheSauceGodddd

I gotta say Roy hibbert like he was really good for such a short period of time (go ask Lebron and the heat) and then all of sudden he forgot how to basketball and played with the lakers meaning if you aren’t good your value and confidence is gone lol but in his prime maybe not a star but was definitely seen as a top 30 guy in the league. No injuries and no explanation


d0000n

Ja Morant. Whatever happened to that guy? I don’t see his name on any Asian team roster.


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Andrew Bynum all nba, nba champ then out of the league


Known-Background

Chris Paul even though he’s not trash gets tossed around the nba like he’s worthless… after the clippers he’s been everywhere..


adonutforeveryone

Latrell Sprewell.


liaholla

Markelle Fultz- wasn’t a star, but was the number one pick who was supposed to be the last piece for the 76ers…his fall as a #1 drafted guard was unprecedented


08legacygt

Not a star but Jeremy Lin was all the talk for like a couple games then fell off


machine4589

Michael Carter-Williams, dude won ROTY and then slowly fell into mediocrity never being able to find his role on a team


idrinkcement

Andrew Bynum


dapo305

Yao Ming, he seemed to be just phased out. Billion people watching him, to simply gone.


pitcherintherye77

AK 47


FailedPolicy

Victor Oladipo gotta be up there


Rafonaut

Stephon Marbury


ChrisRhodes789

Rashard Lewis anyone? That Orlando Magic team that made the NBA Finals is still sneaky underrated in terms of could have should have teams who should of won the chip(that missed Lee layup is probably the greatest out of bounds play I have ever seen).. Lee makes that layup.. whole different series.. & different legacies for a lot of people…


emceegabe

Gilbert Arenas. Danny Granger dropped fast too.


bigangry

I know it was due to injury (his knees went bad faster than mine did, and I'm in a wheelchair) but Harold Miner was being sold as being JORDAN NEXT and then he was just GONE.


coldazice

Arenas


nikerock

Dwight Howard is so disrespected that he doesn't even get mentioned on a thread discussing most disrespected/fallen from grace players lmao.


Azaleroth

Dwight Howard dude was the next Shaq. He had it all back then he was an MVP candidate, 3x DPOY, Numerous 1st team all-nba, and at one point, ammased more all star votes than Lebron in his prime then he suddenly became a Tyson Chandler in his Lakers & Rockets tenure then went on as a journeyman to out of the league to getting beaten by Sim Bhullar in Taiwan.


TheOnlySafeCult

Ty Lawson was a wild one. Especially considering how active he was on this subreddit at the time.


Superorganism123

Jeremy Lin burned out quick.


alligatorblood7

Russell Westbrook


Jhon_doe_smokes

Darron Williams was a monster (IMO arguably the best PG in the league at one point) then just one day woke up and decided to be ass. Literally like night and day in half a season.


Disastrous_Flan_1494

I swear Andrew Bynum was a top 5 center at one point and out of the league within two years


Jonthesinner21

Larry sanders isn’t the answer but I think his name should be in this thread


ConceptNo1055

Ben Simmons. Some stars fall due to lack of usage. Thomas and Tobias unlike DSJ and Bargiani for example has usage rates for a star but cant deliver. While MPJ and is like Lauri waiting to be unleashed.


shadracko

Roy Hibbert Consensus "best defender" in the league at 27. Basically unplayable 2 years later. No injury excuse.


richb83

Chris Copeland looked like he was on the verge of being All-Star and then disappeared completely like that Radiohead song


BigDMike1990

LeQueen after 2011 🤣


techno_playa

I want to say Drummond but was he ever good?


ducksonaroof

I do not know how Vucevic made the 8th seed and took a game off the Bucks as the first option.


snickRhino

Recently: Tim Hardaway Jr.


CupOfHotTeaa

Kemba?


EmergencyLavishness1

It’s Roy Hibbert. 100% the answer to this question forever. Dude went from almost dominating the paint, to out of the league in two years. And not even due to injury. He straight up forgot how to play


Sea-Razzmatazz3593

Lamar Odom. The minute he got traded to the Mavs he completely fell off


TackoFallFanClub

Whatever happened to Tyreke Evans after his ROY season?


scasio12

Ben Gordon


katsikisj

Westbrook went from an MVP to being a massive liability/not even a starter in the span of 4 seasons


katsikisj

Josh Howard and Michael Redd were two guys from the 2000s who made an all star team or two then immediately fell off. Ben Simmons is definitely the quickest though, he literally lost all of his confidence in the course of a single playoff series.


evoIX15

Bubble TJ Warren.


Tolzkutz

Russ. Went from triple double machine carrying teams on his shoulders to Lebron's second sidekick.


Matthew728

Jermaine O’Neal comes to mind.. More so when he was at the top of his game I thought he was the 3rd best PF in the league and then he fell off much faster than Garnett and Duncan. Andrew Bynum also comes to mind. Dude had his best year when he was only 24. He hasn’t been in the league in a decade


toadtruck

Dwight fell off fast


Disastrous-Print9891

Ball brothers were meant to break the NBA. Sadly a parent who thought they were the next magic.


nVmE_123

Tyreke Evans


jldtsu

Dwight Howard


EducationalReason156

D Rose. If it weren’t for injuries, he would’ve easily been a top 10 player


aldo951

Surprised no one mentions Steve Francis, legit nicknamed the "Franchise", was outta the league after a fews years getting traded for T-Mac.


ForneauCosmique

>It occurred to me that his star has fallen pretty quickly This is such a weird quote, on such a random post by a random account.....


Chanman2233

I don’t see anyone else saying Kwame Brown


jpkviowa

Isn't a better question, who signed a big contract only for it to be untradeable overnight? Joakim Noah went form DPOY in 2014 to not starting in 2016 (played in 29 started 2). Yes he got injured but not until partway through the season. His stats cratered. That seems like a pretty far fall from grace in a realatively short period of time.


Casciuss

Without considering injury definitely Stephon Marbury, he went really quickly from the point guard every team wanted to "China Mvp". Also Latrell Sprewell tanked and revived his career like 5 times.


YourAsianBuddy

Tyrese Evans and Brandon Jennings are 2 guys I’m surprised didn’t take it to the next level after their amazing rookie years


SomeWalk5713

Yall forgot about andrew bynum.  He's gotta be in there lol


lemonadeisgood4u

Please stop the culture of trashing athletes if their performance changes. Just because someone doesn't work out in the NBA or they have a sudden drop in production doesn't mean they are a less valuable person in society. I know this sounds soft but some of the content online describing people's athletic careers is totally disrespectful in their wording.


benedictdakich69

Markelle Fultz. #1 pick to ass in a few weeks.


ofmanvv

Crazy that he's still a little bitch 8 years later.


j1h15233

Roy Hibbert. Verticality was all the rage and then he was unplayable within a year


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Carmelo Anthony must be a contender.


Justified_Gent

Jokic


we_hella_believe

Jordan Pool had a legit falloff, not from injury but from getting KO’d on grainy CCTV security video. Dude was heir apparent to Steph and was the next Splash Brother, had played well in pressure situations and was ready to become the next sensation. Until Draymond Green took exception to being called an expensive backpack and punching the skill outta JP. End of a Warriors Dynasty and the beginning of the end for Jordan Pool becoming a superstar.


steebulee

Nick Anderson free throws


GHPLee

I want to talk about this era of fall-offs... Hassan Whiteside hurt me after his fall. I saw it all unfold in that 2018 series against the 76ers. Ben Simmons (who dominated that series against Hassan) had the most insane fall-off in NBA history. From the best perimeter defender in the NBA, one of the best playmakers, and considered a TOP 20 player in the NBA... to potentially being a decent role player if he can play is insane. He was meant to be an MVP. Gordon Hayward (aka White LeBron) earned that nickname because he was like that in 2017. He changed that offense, could shoot the three, manhandled defenses on the interior, and could pass... He was like that. But he only had ONE true all-star season. He was never as efficient again. Never scored 20 PPG (without rounding up) before or after and took that Jazz to the postseason and showed us that he gets better in that role... (That injury set him back for years) Isaiah Thomas is another player who peaked in 2017 and fell off soon after. Not to sound old... but I don't think that Younger Fans who got into the NBA around... Idk, 2019-2020-2021? Can fully comprehend IT in his prime... This 5'9 (175 centimeters) player damn near scored 30 PPG and led his team to the postseason without another superstar. He got injured in that postseason around the same time he discovered his sister passed away and still played through the injury... And THAT is what ended his career. He could never move the same again. He was already tiny when the Celtics traded him and... in the long run, it worked out... but that was one of the most heartless moves I've seen in my entire life. He deadass gave up everything. I could mention John Wall... But he was good for a decent amount of seasons. His biggest problem wasn't just injuries. He wasted his career carrying the damn Wizards. One of the best players I've seen never get the true recognition he deserved because he was surrounded by Okay or terrible players...


mallllls

Brandon Roy?


Dangerousrhymes

Agent Zero. 


bigredpbun

Surprised not to see Ben Gordon on here. Went to Detroit and fell apart.


johngalt192

Latrell Spreewell was offered a $21 million dollar contract by the Timberwolves after they reached the 2004 Western Conference Finals with him being a major contributor. He felt insulted since it was a decrease over his previous contract and turned it down saying "I have a family to feed". He never signed another contract. 


MortimerCanon

The rapid shift in the NBA saw a ton of guys out of the league over the span of only a few years. Hibbert, Fareid, Greg Monroe. Quality low post guys that could defend the post and score, but couldn't move fast enough to defend the PnR or spread the floor on offense. But the biggest fall off has easily been Ben Simmons. Decided to never learn how to shoot, froze at the line everytime he had to take a FT, suddenly had a major back injury after not playing for a year, and hasn't touched the floor since


Listening_Heads

Reggie Lewis


popowolf24

kevin martin


diematrosen

Roy Hibbert comes to mind. Shawn Kemp also


bigsquid69

Derrick Rose. From MVP to bench player


The1Ylrebmik

Kobe Bryant. A lot of people today might not realize how completely reviled of a person and a player Kobe was in the mid-2000s. Even before Colorado.


ThreeWordJones

Roy Tarpley


EstabanG123

Demarcus Cousins


ronmsmithjr

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Averaged only 30.1 ppg this past season. That's a huge dropoff from the prior season when he averaged 31.4 ppg. OKC should just cut their losses and trade him to the Pistons.


dennythedinosaur

Post up bigs like Greg Monroe and Enes Freedom, and they essentially suffered the same fate as Roy Hibbert. They were high lottery picks and both out of the league by age 30, even though they were skilled offensively in the paint. Neither could shoot 3's or offer rim protection.


libihero

Blake Griffin went from AllNBA to end of the bench player in one year


Flyinwater

This thread brings back a lot of memory sigh


AggroPro

I've never seen anything like Roy Hibbert's rise and fall.


ImNotYourBuddyGuyy

Starbury. One day he’s eating Vaseline and broadcasting for us to see


petrosteve

Rose if u count injured players.


CJB_94

Delonte West, realistically


Local_Injury81

Im going to go with OJ Mayo with his gambling and injuries after being successful up til his last year in Milwaukee.


molski79

darko milicic


Nodqfan

Ben Wallace after he left Detroit for Chicago.


LoveIsOnlyAnEmotion

Delonte West


nonstopenguins

What does the article on sleep deprivation have to do with players star falling? Yes it mentions a few quotes on the importance of sleep by Hassan Whiteside..was that it?


No_Habit4754

Lamar Odom


Old_Bar_8851

Ja


Tw1987

Andrew Bynum. Once thought he and Dwight were the best two big men for a season, one broke his back and the other had a bowling accident. Monta. Don’t ride a scooter. Lamar Odom trade. Laker six man of the year and a starter on any other team to drugs. Michael redd and Brandon Roy. Broken legs. Greg oden. Looked grown men look like children for a the short time he played before injury. Klay thompson robbed of his prime. Tim Duncan. Go watch his rookie year and athleticism. We don’t mention this because he recovered well to be a top ten player. He started playing an old man’s game after the leg and did it well for the next 15. Last but not least, Derrick Rose. You all say be Simmons smh. MVP to role player in a season.


mckayfire

3u


BodegaDaddy

roy hibbert was an all star and out the league in a season


handmethetricksword

Penny Hardaway. Man was the second coming of Magic as a rookie and never got better, then career just fell off a cliff with the injuries after Shaq left. So sad.


L1zoneD

Kobe. R.I.P.


asva333

Enes Kanter didn't have the fastest fall off but he self-destructed pretty hard.


BudgetPhoenix

Tyreke Evans


BudgetPhoenix

Johnny Flynn


CeSquaredd

Monte Ellis The forgotten Warriors legend before Curry, I truly believed Steph + Monte would be a problem. Not only did that not happen, but Monte disappeared very soon after


cynicalhappiness

Andrew Wiggins and Jordan Poole


GothicToast

Tyreke Evans. Maybe doesn't qualify for "fastest", but rookie year averaged 20/6/5 and then never averaged 20 again. Steve Francis comes to mind. He fell off pretty quick after leaving Houston. Tracy McGrady hung around in the league as a shell of his former self, but he went from all-star to unplayable in like 2 seasons.


demonraiser112

delonte west


jordan1978

Gilbert Arenas. Dude went from dropping 40 a game to be busted with a gun in the locker room. Went from all-star to rubbish overnight. Made a fortune though so good on him.


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Danny Ferry 2nd overall in 1989. Did nothing in NBA.


trakstaar

Richard Dumas, during his rookie season, looked like he was on a path to become the next elite SF in the league.


astarisaslave

Rajon Rondo. The second he left Boston his leaguewide reputation went from a champ, one of the best point guards of his generation and a basketball genius to an ornery coach killer who had no business being on the floor because of his terrible jumpshot. Passed around the league like a pipe after Dallas and never lasted more than 2 seasons with a new team.


Sturmundsterne

Lonzo Ball. Dude was “the next big thing” when drafted and now he’s not even an afterthought.


illiterateandsingle

I mean Kobe fell pretty quickly


Salt_Acanthaceae_985

Isaiah thomas


c10bbersaurus

Dwight Howard? His image never really recovered from his interview in Orlando, after SVG said he knew he tried to get him fired, then D12 immediately shows up on camera, hugs him, denies the rumor. Was an MVP level player and talent before. After, just looked like a disingenuous brat, and that completely overshadowed everything, and probably self inflicted some psychological doubt. The super Lakers team failed spectacularly.


Brick_HardCheese

Steve Francis was once traded straight up for Tracy McGrady. Then he kinda just fell off a cliff


triggerfish15

Ja


habrasangre

Roy Tarpley?


Used_Water_2468

Grant Hill went from All NBA with the Pistons to rarely playing to solid role player all because of an injury. What a shame. He could've been great.


That-Worldliness5487

That dude on the wnba who is attacking CC


madlabdog

I think we should not count stars who dealt with health issues as ‘fall from grace’


YvetteFromSanDiego

Roy Hibbert is not only the answer for the NBA, but every sport ever. I don't know if it was a voodoo curse or what, but his talent just vanished in 2014 over the playoffs. Most baffling thing I've ever seen.  That Pacers squad in NBA 2K12 with him, George, and Granger were SO overpowered. 


madlabdog

My vote for fall from grace goes to James Harden. He went from the guy who could only be stopped by the Warriors to becoming a toxic piece.


Hamsox94

I honestly thought Ben Simmons was the next Magic. I was so wrong with that one


Panik_Switch

It was either his 37th or 38th birthday but Chris Paul fell off a cliff after that and never recovered


Dinobot2_

Any answers that aren't Ben Simmons or Len Bias are just contrarian answers.


artsandfartsandcraft

How has no one said Jeremy Lin?