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dbuns91

the academy is


Envy_onTHE_Toast

Its hard to top perfection


FastLine2

I’d agree but the other two weren’t that far off either.


jimmyrhall

Santi is really good.


chalciecat

Santi is one of my favorite albums of all time lol. I personally prefer it to their debut although I also love debut 


annaoze94

They are one of my all-time favorite bands like top five and I can't believe they only have 3 LPs Because when I think about how much I listened to their music in high school surely there was more of a discography? Nope.


Da_Bass_Lover

Ah man, I remember back then we used to look at the Warped Tour line up, and then look up everyone on MySpace. Me and my friends fell in love with The Academy Is... They played super early in the day, there was maybe 50 people at the stage, but everyone knew all the lyrics, such a great memory. Never felt this way again listening to their stuff after, although Santi had some pretty good jams.


dbuns91

take me back to the purevolume and absolutepunk days. not to mention those warped tour compilations.


xxsmashleyxx

Man those early Warped Tour time sets were special. Way too hot, like no people, but every person there was THERE for that band. I remember showing up as early as possible and sprinting across the venue for Lostprophets who were on first at like noon-thirty. This, of course, was the last time they did anything because Ian was arrested as soon as he returned to the UK after that summer at Warped 😬


Firehills

Fast Times at Barrington High was even better imo.


meganshay28

I loved fast times!! I was obsessed with it when it came out


Wide_Remove_8415

Fast Times gets a lot of hate, but it’s so good. Great upbeat, catchy, and fun songs. Listening the whole way through tells such a great story.


Bofus420

it has some classics for sure


EPoe14

Santi is better


twiride

P!ATD comes to mind. A Fever That You Can’t Sweat Out was everywhere


chrismiles94

I cannot believe this was written by 18-year-olds. It's absolutely brilliant. The instrumentation, time changes, and lyrics are way above what an 18-year-old should be able to put together.


mindpainters

I listened to a book that had some info on their beginnings. They hadn’t even played a live show yet. Pretty insane Edit: the book is called “where are your boys tonight” it’s basically just snippet interviews with bands and people close to them around the saves the day, fallout boy, mcr, midtown, senses fail era of music. It was a great read if you’re interested in the behind the scenes stuff from back then.


PhinsFan17

Yeah, they sent some practice recordings to Pete Wentz on fuckin Live Journal and he came out to Las Vegas, watched them practice, and signed them to his Fueled By Ramen imprint before they ever played live. Absolutely crazy.


super_sayanything

I saw them play with Fall Out Boy on their first tour, they could barely play their instruments lol.


byebybuy

Holy shit what an experience though!


super_sayanything

Oh yea it was magnificent. Fall Out Boy had just released FUCT, it was great.


lostskylines

It's a great read!


ALoudMeow

Thanks for the recommendation; I just borrowed it from my county library.


xcadranx

They all grew up near Vegas right? Probably an interesting childhood


Gretev1

I felt the same way even at the time and I was just slightly younger than them. Also, their A Fever You Can‘t Sweat Out shows had these intricate costumes, makeup, stage decorations, circus acts and performance artists. I always wondered how they got a budget for this seemingly straight out of the gate as a band that just had one big hit with I Write Sins Not Tragedies.


PhinsFan17

They had Pete Wentz’s support which meant a ton at the time. It was his FBR imprint that signed them.


Radical-Six

The Silverchair of pop punk


blacklight223

I've thought this exact thing before. The album is so mature sonically and lyrically that it honestly doesn't make sense that a bunch of kids wrote it. Is that truly the case or did they have a lot of help from outside producers, rich parents to bankroll it etc, or was it really just a bunch of wunderkinds?


ericaferrica

It was all Ryan Ross. He was the primary songwriter for the first two albums and then left the band. It's now just Brendan Urie and it's clear that his talent is singing (not writing).


GeorgeEBHastings

I'm that weirdo who prefers Pretty! Odd!


DegradedCorn75

There are DOZENS of us!


koolaidmatt1991

I thought death of a bachelor was great. Just not the live version…


Moezhyk

Definitely Cartel. Chroma is a masterpiece of an album.


LosManosFuertes

When Chroma came out I was too cool for school about it because it was like one iota poppier than blink or Green Day. I slept on it. It’s fantastic.


ered20

LOL well put, they definitely weren’t popular but it’s absolutely perplexing why


andyislegend

Q&A make me transcend


Paninininini

Say anything. Nothing can ever compare to is a real boy.


Previous-Priority389

Facts. Is a real boy > everything else


LosManosFuertes

This is absolutely the right take. That being said I think In Defense of the Genre has a beautiful place in my heart. It’s a fantastic snapshot of the scene at that time and should be viewed as the time capsule it is haha.


thedubiousstylus

That was actually their second album.


emusabe

There’s enough volume between Baseball and Is A Real Boy to maybe consider Real Boy like their 4th album lol. Either way I would take everything through in defense of the genre on repeat every day of the week. They (well, Max) got too weird


Gerasis1

The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus


Mr_YUP

To be fair them the when they came out was peak 00’s emo and Face Down perfectly captured that zeitgeist 


Gerasis1

I mean the whole Don't You Fake It album was banger after banger really. Then Lonely Road had a few good songs and everything since has been extremely hit or miss.


Grahnye_West

Extremely underrated band but Whisper War by The Cab has absolutely no skips


Davidp243

I did like symphony soldier but I take your point


JalapenoDelight

This album has some absolute bangers on it.


Cold_Ad_7645

Remo Drive


pokexchespin

ironic album name -> prophetic album name arc lol


londonsongbird

I remember listening to Greatest Hits on repeat ahead of seeing them live, and then they only played Yer Killin’ Me 😭 Everything else was off of an upcoming album of theirs. So disappointed


CoercedCoexistence22

Their collapse in quality is something else man


Cold_Ad_7645

Makes me too sad to go back and listen to Greatest Hits and anything before it.


YomYeYonge

Which is fitting for the second album name: Natural Everyday Degradation


Coads123

I came here to say this. At least they knew why they titled the album “Greatest Hits.” I was lucky enough to see them in a tiny venue before they released anything else and they played pretty much songs exclusively from GH and it was a blast of a time.


Perfect-Owl-6778

Same. I saw them live with beach bunny. Kinda funny Reno drive went down and beach bunny blew up


Coads123

Exactly, that’s the tour I saw them on. I listen to field medic and beach bunny way way more than remo now


TheReasho

While I love State Champs, their first record is their best record in my eyes


theoretical_chemist

I think this depends on when you starting listening to them... if you were an OG, I reckon The Finer Things will have a special place. As somebody who started listening to them 3 years ago but has been a lifelong pop-punk fan, I think every album is excellent and distinct.


halfmoonjb

Agreed. They’re different types of music and appeal to different audiences. If someone became a fan with the first album for the heavier style, I can see how the later ones wouldn’t be as appealing.


theoretical_chemist

Yeah, I totally agree. However, as one of the fortunate ones to find them upon release of Kings of the New Age, I'm living my best life by loving all of the albums! Can't wait to see them live again in the UK... saw then at Slam Dunk Festival this year where they played the whole of Finer Things, but none of their newer stuff which I was hyped for!


MZago1

Probably a hot take, but I'm gonna say Good Charlotte. Lifestyles was their breakthrough and it made them a big name, but their self-titled debut album was better. Was it pop punk? Not really, but they just lost some of their magic when they got a bigger budget for their sophomore effort.


theslimbox

I've thought that about several bands, but then their first albums grew on me over time. Like Relinet K. Anatomy of Tongue in Cheek was my favorite album for years, and i couldn't stand their selftitled, but it grew on me. I really wish they had done a remaster/rerecord of that album. Gotee just wasnt up to producing quality stuff when their self titled dropped. I would have loved to see many of those bands that came out of the religious scene reproduce their debut albums with better production.


IAMA_Giraffe_AMA

> Was it pop punk? Not really I'm so confused what you mean by this because it was very much a pop-punk album


MZago1

I feel like it was more pop rock. It wasn't as pop punk as some other bands at the time.


TB1289

Songs About Jane by Maroon 5. I know it's technically not their first album, but the first two were released under their old name, so I'm counting it. Everything they recorded after that album has been trash.


iHasMagyk

I thought IWBSBL was pretty solid, but Song’s About Jane is far and away their best record. Fantastic album


neemeenone

Kara’s Flowers was a solid band though. Soap Disco is a bop.


theaverageaidan

It was alright but it was in no way suited to Adam Levines voice


DogeFancy

Bro said Maroon 5 in r/poppunkers


opackersgo

Moose Blood. I still like them though.


valoossb

i actually think blush is right there with the first


Dozinggreen66

This answer ain’t pop punk but I don’t care: there has never been a bigger disparity between a masterpiece of a debut album and crap in the rest of the discography than guns n roses


LosManosFuertes

Maaaaan. Talk about falling off a cliff.


krazykraz01

If Use Your Illusion was just one album with the better half of the songs, it'd come reasonably close. Get in the Ring is maybe the most embarrassing thing I've heard a grown man write and perform.


rjorsin

GET IN THE RING MOTHERFUCKER!


dangbr182

PVRIS


sad_flowerpot

Yes! I loved first album


Dry_Tax_3101

That album is a masterpiece


goodfellow408

Driving to LA to see Starting Line next weekend... and they better go HEAVY on their first album 🤣


RadiantSilvergun

They’re doing this album at When We Were Young this year Literally THE #1 set I wanna see


goodfellow408

I'll be there as well; see you there! I'll be the grown man crying


calinet6

Great answer, though Based on a True Story was pretty awesome too.


RVFIO

BOATS is really underrated.


McWolke

We the kings


rooofle

Story of the Year, although In The Wake of Determination and Tear Me To Pieces are great albums, Page Avenue was their zenith. Also not pop punk but this question was made for Third Eye Blind.


dsled

Low key Hit The Lights even though I absolutely love Skip School Start Fights


alwaysapprehensive1

You’re gonna need a body bag


tmmorganw

I’ll break bones you didn’t know you had


breakingcustoms

Yeah, I don’t know why, but I just liked the original lead singer better


Tuck_The_Faliban

Third Eye Blind


breakingcustoms

The Audition Nothing tops Controversy Loves Company in their discography


ZaDoruphin

Knuckle Puck imo. Their other albums are good especially their newest one, but nothing comes close to Copacetic for me.


DaddysCumminHome

Had to scroll way too far down for this.


Seanizonfire

Trash Boat and Boston Manor


dainbartlebaugh

Nah Crown Shyness is Trash Boat’s best album by far


Cruxifyer

Unpopular opinion but Take This To Your Grave was better than From Under The Cork Tree


PawelW007

I love both a lot. But there is something to writing an album and songs that shift the mainstream. That album kept rock on the radio for awhile (almost) single handily at the time. TTTYG is definitely more for the pop punk enthusiast who likes the rock leaning but FUTCT is a beautifully constructed album that stands the test of time for the masses.


frausting

100%. Front to back it’s an incredible album. Sometimes I’ll even throw on the Evening Out With Your Girlfriend EP for that pure early FOB nostalgia.


tmanarl

No no, you’re exactly right.


chizzipsandsizalsa

That’s not unpopular at all, that’s just fact.


thesk8rguitarist

Nothing scratches my pop punk itch like TTTYG. It’s in my personal top 5 of all time. No album since then has been as good. Commercial? More pop rock? Absolutely. Just not nearly as good as the first.


getmoneygetpaid

This opinion is only unpopular on this sub. Any other pop punk enthusiast crowd would agree with you.


AWG2290

100% agree with you there. One of my all time fav albums


stevenw84

Fossil Youth, and they admit it which is why they never released anything since 2016. Have Mercy is another one. But they got a little too formulaic as well.


sedinoemis

Remo Drive :(


OwningSince1989

Forever the sickest kids for sure


unwrittenglory

Underdog was a great album.


dwoller

Stand Atlantic


Haveawonderfulday14

Stand Atlantic fell off :( fucking loved The EP an Skinny Dipping


Exige30499

I’m gonna be a real elitist and say they peaked with the first EP, even though the album was still very good


RichterCD

My personal conspiracy theory is that they covered Post Malone’s song Chemical to try and supplant their own song Chemicals in searches. (More likely they covered it because similar name but that’s not as fun)


Exige30499

That’s the kind of crazy tinfoil hat thinking I can get behind, you’ve made a believer out of me.


bunchObananas

Chemicals is a god damn banger! Haha top tier pop punk song


Shadowthedemon

Pink elephant isn't that bad. It has a few solid songs. Then again I discovered them from Jurassic Park popping up on my Spotify...


AFleetingIllness

In light of former bassist Adam Lewis's passing, I'm gonna say Fenix TX. I loved Lechuza, but it didn't have anywhere near the reach or recognition of the self-titled.


fassaction

Taking Back Sunday. Tell All Your Friends was an absolute masterpiece for a bands first album. Everything that came out after, while still good, paled in comparison.


ld20r

The first 3 TBS albums are masterpieces. Starts to get patchy after that.


meganshay28

I’m going to disagree with you there. WYWTB is better, imo


rjorsin

I don't think the Fred albums paled in comparison, they're both classics in their own right, but everything after Louder Now is heavy on skips. Death wolf was a banger tho.


gh0stbeard

Mayday Parade


simonsail

Self titled comes close but yeah having 2 vocalists play off each other so well on the first album was super unique.


j0rdan21

I like self-titled way more than ALIR tbh


shatteredframes

Yeah, this is my answer too. Love all their stuff, but nothing beats the first one. Jamie All Over is one of the perfect poppunk songs.


sweetest_con78

And miserable at best is the quintessential early 2000s emo kid song


Msbossyboots

I think they could have been really big if they didn’t lose Jason Lancaster. He and the band just struggled separately.


timothyjmiller1

I wouldn’t say they struggled, but the band lost its early charm. Performances from when Jason was in the band are rare yet INCREDIBLE. Here’s a show from Jason’s last tour with them. He apparently “left in the middle of the plain white t’s tour” but stayed until the end. [Mayday Parade w/Jason Lancaster](https://youtu.be/AcVNI4uzLq0?si=NAeaw8womDJOY5MV)


gh0stbeard

Agreed. Mayday became more generic and pop friendly. Which worked for them as far as success in the industry. But it was never the same for me at least.


builtfences

not pop punk but "is this it" by the strokes it's sad they spent most of their adult lives trying to chase after the same appraisal they got for ITI though i personally find their whole discography very solid


Creepy_Gur2187

Fireworks. They never out out a bad album, but We Are Everywhere is a masterpiece imo


TescoAlfresco

Four Year Strong


thelostlevels

Agree. Rise or Die Trying is a masterclass in easy core.


Wildfan182

All American Rejects


Rhysing

Move Along was their second album


iminhell-thisishell

Say Anything, Set Your Goals, Four Year Strong, La Dispute


ivydubbbz

how could you say this about la dispute...............


GruffyMcGuiness

Trash Boat, Boston Manor, Moose Blood.


Reasonable_Entry_530

I'm really looking forward to Boston Manor's upcoming album


sweetest_con78

The Academy Is


allaboutjb

Simple Plan for sure. 


MZago1

I dunno, there were some good songs on SNGA. If they had made Jump the lead single, I think they would have stayed more relevant.


TescoAlfresco

Set Your Goals


Practical_Manager111

This will be the death of us is their best album, imo, but Mutiny has some fun songs on it


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Mr_YUP

I have a special place for New Again and it frustrates me how they only play Everything Must Go off of it. It’s an album where they stretched themselves and wrote some great songs. I think it’s their best but I am in the tiny minority. 


rjorsin

It's a good Adam record, but turns out you need Adam plus John or Fred to make a TBS album.


BigGooBoy

I totally agree! Really ambitious album and the guitar parts on it rip.


emusabe

I’ve seen TBS live at least half a dozen times over the past two decades or so, and far and away the show I remember the most (and have the fondest memories of) was in may of 2009 when they were touring New Again. Ofc they mixed in classics but there was a pretty heavy emphasis on the new stuff. Lonely, Lonely and Sink Into Me slapped live


dontberidiculousfool

Wait do people not think TAYF is the best one anymore?


Dzyjay

TAYF is the best one, always


lashleighxo

WYWTB is the superior album 😬


LosManosFuertes

Idk where this falls in the unpopular opinion tree but this is my opinion. It’s the best record. However any band would and should be jealous of the that 3 record run of TAYF, WYWTB and LN.


jakehood47

Pale Waves


EppyX978

Four year strong rise or die trying. I am looking forward to their new release though I like the direction they went.


annaoze94

I couldn't believe what I was hearing, One of their songs was on the '08 warped Tour compilation album and I fell in love. I was like "oh everything is tuned at least in drop d and they're screaming but oh my goodness it's so poppy and upbeat!"


tonealone

Finch


Spirited_Water2500

Everyone disagrees with me buuuuuut your favorite weapon is my favorite brand new album and I will die on that hill 😂


kelleah

As a Brand New fan, it’s not my fav but I love it and it’s definitely above some of the other albums


Dresden715

Weezer. Blue album is legit perfection never again matched.


Wooden-Cancel-2676

*AHEMS in Pinkerton*


dotavi26

Pinkerton > blue > white > rest


UseAlarmed4042

For me it's pinkerton > blue > EWBAITE > ok human > white > maladroit > rest


Unique-Salary7136

Pinkerton is way better


Emsizz

Something Corporate


rckid13

I assume you're talking about Leaving Through the Window and not Ready... Break? I kind of liked the more serious darker style of North compared to Leaving Through the Window, and pretty much anything Andrew McMahon has done since that point. It's a really unique album in his discography.


wanderer666_

Remo Drive


mashimade

Good Charlotte


Ok_Beautiful_3126

Story of the Year


alb0nn

Waterparks. Although I do enjoy a handful of songs on their subsequent albums and most of Fandom. Not sure what this sub’s consensus is though.


Cosmic_Thrill_Seeker

I think their peak might have been Fandom, double dare and entertainment are absolutely amazing albums but I think fandom was all of their different styles put together brilliantly, shame they went off the deep end on the newer albums😭


drboanmahoni

one could make the case for alkaline trio. there's nothing like goddamnit


cowtown1985

I would make the case that no other band in this genre has as many top notch albums as Alkaline does


Beginning-Rest-5717

Box Car Racer


Mattato_

Good one lol


bonyknees88

Trash Boat


sirmonkey95

Not pop punk but I have to say it. Guns N’ Roses. While they have good songs after Appetite for Destruction, no album comes close to that masterpiece.


dotavi26

It’s close but Weezer. I do love me pinkerton, though


69ChadTrutherson420

Might get shit for this but Tigers Jaw


jazzcuphoodie

Not pop punk but Two Door Cinema Club. Their debut is their best and they know it. I still like the!next couple albums they released but Tourist History is really special.


camxcold

I hate to say this as I used to be such a big fan of them, but Movements. Feel Something was incredible, but it also came out at a time where those lyrics meant a lot to me so I’m probably biased about it. No Good Left to Give was good as well, didn’t hit me as hard as Feel Something but the songs were good. A few years later and I’ve kind of fallen out of them, and Ruckus is just not it. Hardly sounds like their style and I get they wanted to try something new with it, but it did nothing for me.


jono1973

Taking back sunday


stardu33

Interpol Turn On The Bright Lights just cannot be topped


maybe-yeah

Acceptance


getmoneygetpaid

IMHO most bands fall into this category. Particularly if their first album was successful. The second album is usually just a commercialised version of the same, and loses the charm in the process.


Jimlovesdoge

Good charlotte


Mundane_Meringue560

Definitely Finch. That first album was 🔥and then it was a fast downhill from there


aceeb25

Probably going to piss people off but I think Brand New peaked with “Your Favorite Weapon”


Feisty_Source3462

Grayscale


noseatbeltsong

really? i think nella vita is a masterpiece


Feisty_Source3462

Adornment is a masterpiece. The albums after that i did not care for


negrohero9

What We're Missing is their best. Palette and Change are fantastic songs (that they never play anymore)


itlivesinthewall

Panic! At The Disco and Finch come to mind


tjfenton12

I will die on this hill, alone if I have to. 'Mayday Parade' and 'Monsters in the Closet' are better than 'A Lesson in Romantics'.


Thepainbehind_thesea

Set It Off tbh! Cinematics was heavenly blasting through my eardrums


NitrosGone803

Northstar


CowboyLikeMegan

Hawthorne Heights


Schyteria

Movements with feel something. One of the few strong 10/10 álbuns for me.


Wallflower_in_PDX

IMO, All Time Low, if we're counting the official release on a national label instead of regional indie stuff (I.e., The Party Scene didn't get a wide release). None of their subsequent releases topped their debut. I'd add FOB is at their best with TTTYG, and Tonight Alive never topped the energy of their debut. They went arena esque pop-rock to me and it just wasn't the same.


Previous-Priority389

The story so far first album is pop-punk cannon


gagegomes

No it’s Parker cannon